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I'll do what I can to help.  But I never had access to anything other than social media accounts -- and I already gave these passwords away to 1-2 other cinni community people around the time I stepped down as comm manager.  If the passwords were not changed, I can re-provide them if needed.  I can also tell you who I gave the passwords to, if needed.

We need his/your assistance to get everything - thread, twitter, website and whatever else is out there. I'll give him a new thread to link to over the coming week and if he's fully cooperative and effective in facilitating all of the above, as a peace/truce/good-faith gesture, I'll delete this thread.

Okay, see above for cinnidev's response to my PM.  It seems he is willing to hand over the keys (but it also seems he is confused on how to do this).  

Whoever in the cinni community is planning to retrieve the keys and continue development -- I will leave it up to you to follow-up with cinnidev and work with him on this issue.  Please let me know if you need any further assistance.  

  lol

LOL

Yes, I will send cinnidev a PM asking him to hand over the keys if he is no longer developing for Cinni. No guarantees, but I don't see why he would be necessarily opposed to this.

Edit - just sent him a PM. Will let you know what he says.

Can you say an extra prayer for Cinnicoin then.  And chuck in a request for the Dev to give us the keys

Would it help if I told you that my internship was with a Presbyterian Church and I'm currently a student in Seminary studying to be a pastor? I suppose you could call me a liar or perhaps a hypocritical Christian, or perhaps it means nothing at all to you. But I don't know what else to say. It seems nothing I can say will sway what you are already convinced of.

Well, that's one thing we agree on - Cinnidev is a joke.

They also paint a clear picture of a community manager who was working voluntarily to try to help a coin, and made announcements of features that, at the time, he believed were truly in development.

Yes, I went silent and stepped down as comm mgr, mainly due to my internship obligations. I did at some point come to the understanding that no anon transfers would be released for Cinni, however this was after all announcements I made. Perhaps I should have been the one to break the bad news, but I decided to let rynomster open that can of worms as he saw best, it was his decision, after all. Ultimately, I had no control over his continued development for Cinni, but neither was he obligated. And cinnidev did not make things easier, though he seemed sincere enough, his poor communication was disabling, I can't blame rynomster for leaving one bit.

Agree about the time spent. Fair enough, but I will respond where a response is merited. This CINNI history was just a bad memory for me, until I saw battbot's comments, which to me required a response.

You know, amid all this, sometimes I forget Cinnidev exists.

Sorry, but the timing is all really suspect - and, yes, that's my interpretation. Also, and this isn't even touched upon in the summary, the reality is that you became disengaged from CINNI before your made your absence official. Again, I dont fault anyone for pursuing their own interests and other coins - heck, I have, who wouldn't. I just feel the CINNI community was hyper-sold a bill of goods about this anon tech before key devs all left around the same time, leaving CINNI an empty shell. The chronology and quotes are all there for people to review, challenge and "interpret" for themselves.

Feel free to add anything independently verifiable to the record of what happened, because the facts I know that were public paint a pretty clear picture to me.

Respectfully, Schild_, all of these quotes are facts directly copied from the thread and any one is welcome to visit CINNI's thread to see if my summary takes anything out of context or out of chronological order. It doesn't. I don't say anything about Ryno's refusal to post, I just copied the comments from him, you and battbot.

You may be right - it will be an absolute tragedy if the short-sightedness of scammer devs and the short sightedness of buyers calling for all the wrong-headed regulation and government interference and corruption that has distorted and ruined commerce across the West bring that corruption here. Absolutely tragic. I am optimistic that, in fits and starts, we're evolving toward something better and that higher standards (cryptoasian, POD, etc.) and more p2p innovation (Ethereum, blockchain 2.0, decentralised autonomous organisations, smart contracts) will head this off before it's too late.

Lol. No need to see them, here everybody will believe batbott on that point. We all experienced that.

I've let people fight each other during a long time without saying a word. I started posting when tevayo first posted about me, and shorty after this thread was created. I didn't post because i felt obligated to defend him,  I posted because this was not fair and this theory, regarding the elements I know isn't true, not to mention i have a right to give precision, because I got quoted to illustrate something.

EDIT: The only thing I see is that we are losing our time posting in here.  As you said  "I have no doubt you believe him and he has done no wrong" .

I'm also sure you believe he scammed you and nothing can change that apparently.

Now regarding all these elements, people will judge by themselves and think whatever they want about this situation. At least i made my contribution.

Regards...

Okay, I just noticed this thread this morning. Here are my initial thoughts.

I'm not a coder so I was not directly involved in any of the actual coding development. But for every post I made regarding the anonymous transfer feature for Cinni, I was under the impression that it was in progress, and had no reason to think otherwise.  

As for the reason I stepped down as community manager, I had a summer internship that obligated 80 hour work weeks from June to August. I am just returning home from that internship now. I will return on Thursday, after which I would be happy to discuss any and all clarifying questions on IRC to the best of my knowledge.

Again, I joined cinni project as a volunteer community manager after the project was about 1-2 weeks old. This much should be evident if you go digging through the old thread. I was not involved in the original creation of this coin. Neither did I know cinnidev or rynomster prior to the creation of cinni, but only afterwards.

 I don't know what to say regarding the conspiracy theories other than that they are simply not true. I would be happy to provide a log of every single private message between cinnicoin dev and myself via bitcointalk when I return on Thursday - from reading this, it should become clear that i was not collaborative with him with any ill intention, and that I did not know him prior to cinnicoin.

I have sent cinnidev in the first weeks of cinni being created, numerous PMs trying to get him to publicly reveal his identity to me and the community for the good of the coins image - why would I do this if I was already conspiring with him? I have also sent cinnidev numerous PMs to get him to communicate with the team via irc, email, etc, but he would only communicate via bct.  Communication with him was infuriating, to say the least. Anyways, I will post this if desired.

I would ask that we be respectful to each other, if possible, and I apologize for any confusion on my part.

Schild, it's obvious you get on well with Ryonmaster and feel obligated to defend him. I have no doubt you believe him and he has done no wrong.

I wholeheartedly disagree though. Ryonmaster had family issues at a very very coincidental time. Complete lie IMO. But, again, just my opinion.

Probably better to let people speak for themselves Schild. It looks a bit weird tbh the way you are his spokesperson.

They are not FACTS. Since when what people write on forum become 100% indiscutable facts? Why are you interpreting everything literal?  The forum is not the holly bible.

Things have to be replaced in their own context. When you quote me, you are not being objective, you use it as a proof to illustrate your theory.
I can tell you your interpretations of my OWN quote, are absolutely partial, plus you were not in my mind nor shared my experience, the reality you imagine is not the one that i experienced...

When i said Ryno refused to post, you cannot consider it as Ryno refused to post because he didn't care and was creating his new way to rip us off or whatever you might imagine. The only "fact" that seems objective in this story is that he didn't post, and that's it, but you cannot claim you know why he didn't post as a fact.


I'd tend to say if you guys wants to discuss all of this, just go on SDC IRC, find Rynomster and debate.