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August 25, 2014, 10:04:34 AM
#47

He says you presented the information and quotes dishonestly....you did. Easy to see the game you are playing.
The "didn't challenge the record" bullshit is no defense for your honesty. Your dishonesty was your presentation of the quotes in a purposeful way to implicate rynomaster with the quotes of another person.


I'm going to re-post the post at issue to give you and anyone else an opportunity to point out exactly what is dishonest in any of this. I really look forward to that.
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August 25, 2014, 10:00:38 AM
#46

I read that link. Again, what are the dishonest posts from rynomster?  There are no dishonest posts from rynomster in that link.
You have wrongly said posts from battbot somehow show dishonesty by rynomster.  This seems dishonest on your part. Please list the dishonest posts by rynomster, not posts by battbot.
I am saying you are being intellectualy dishonest in the way you constructed the OP. You say rynomster is dishonest,  then you list posts made predominantly by battbot and attempt to attribute them to rynomster.  

Please specify anything I've said -- for the most part copied -- that isn't true:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You have constructed the OP in attemp to implicate rynomster using quotes from battbot. This is a guilt by association falacy. You include rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.


I am presenting the chronology as it was -- and allow readers to draw their own conclusions, which seem obvious to me and many others -- while you repeat vague accusations about my dishonesty. I leave the record to speak for itself. This is what battbot and rynomster said and did when they said and did it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You included rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.

List the dishonest quotes from rynomster or stop attacking his character.

You clearly dont care at all about honesty or you would not play these games. Im sure this will be abundantly clear to anyone reading these posts.

It is now clear to me that intellectual honesty is not your goal, you are just attempting to bring down an honest man. This is shameful on your part and I will no longer participate.
I think you are afraid of the whole quote. This guy was dead on ^


I just found it redundant - he repeatedly accuses me of dishonesty but doesn't challenge a single part of the historical record:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524


I started this thread as open (not moderated, unlike SDC) to allow a free flow of facts/opinion that SDC allies/proxies/sockpuppets like you are desperately trying to supress.

He says you presented the information and quotes dishonestly....you did. Easy to see the game you are playing.
The "didn't challenge the record" bullshit is no defense for your honesty. Your dishonesty was your presentation of the quotes in a purposeful way to implicate rynomaster with the quotes of another person.

Oh BTW, you are yet to answer his challenge. List the dishonest quotes by rynomaster, not the quotes by battbots...of rynomaster. Just list them below so all can see the dishonesty in its rawness.

Noooo, you want to leave the quotes in the context you presented them....there is the dishonesty on your part.
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August 25, 2014, 09:59:31 AM
#45

The problem with all these devs is they make a living off alt coins. Sticking to one coin won't make them rich. Creating new coins with news features will until they dump and start a new project.
Apparently the cloak dev made himself a lot recently.


Apparently, and that's their prerogative, but its our prerogative as buyers or potential buyers to familiarise ourselves with their patterns and past behavior/actions, inform others and invest (or not invest) accordingly.

+1

"these devs" won't be able do this forever their end will come soon.

How many times you can scam someone ? one o or two that's it.
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August 25, 2014, 09:56:23 AM
#44

:shrug:  I'm not too happy with the FUD in the cloak thread by some large SDC holders, but on the other hand this thread is kind of a WTF moment.  Devs don't owe you a damn thing.  rnymonster or whoever are free to work on whatever they want.  These are open source decentralized projects, not "stocks" or companies, you aren't paying salaries to these devs.  If you're not happy with some aspect of development on say CINNI coin, write some code and submit pull requests on github and contribute.

You're right - they don't owe us a damn thing. And we, as potential buyers, don't owe them our ignorance or our compliance with supression of the truth of what they did. I don't owe them anything either. I do feel I owe other buyers or potential buyers a counterpoint to their attempted whitewashing of what happened and when. I've posted the historical record, which is what apparently scares these people.

So, who's next? More tennis, "DevCoder"?
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August 25, 2014, 09:52:29 AM
#43

I read that link. Again, what are the dishonest posts from rynomster?  There are no dishonest posts from rynomster in that link.
You have wrongly said posts from battbot somehow show dishonesty by rynomster.  This seems dishonest on your part. Please list the dishonest posts by rynomster, not posts by battbot.
I am saying you are being intellectualy dishonest in the way you constructed the OP. You say rynomster is dishonest,  then you list posts made predominantly by battbot and attempt to attribute them to rynomster.  

Please specify anything I've said -- for the most part copied -- that isn't true:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You have constructed the OP in attemp to implicate rynomster using quotes from battbot. This is a guilt by association falacy. You include rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.


I am presenting the chronology as it was -- and allow readers to draw their own conclusions, which seem obvious to me and many others -- while you repeat vague accusations about my dishonesty. I leave the record to speak for itself. This is what battbot and rynomster said and did when they said and did it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You included rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.

List the dishonest quotes from rynomster or stop attacking his character.

You clearly dont care at all about honesty or you would not play these games. Im sure this will be abundantly clear to anyone reading these posts.

It is now clear to me that intellectual honesty is not your goal, you are just attempting to bring down an honest man. This is shameful on your part and I will no longer participate.
I think you are afraid of the whole quote. This guy was dead on ^


I just found it redundant - he repeatedly accuses me of dishonesty but doesn't challenge a single part of the historical record:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

I started this thread as an open thread (not moderated and heavily censored like SDC/Shadowcoin) to allow a free flow of facts/opinion that SDC allies/proxies/sockpuppets like you are desperately trying to supress. I'm not afraid of the truth, unlike you people.
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August 25, 2014, 09:49:31 AM
#42

I read that link. Again, what are the dishonest posts from rynomster?  There are no dishonest posts from rynomster in that link.
You have wrongly said posts from battbot somehow show dishonesty by rynomster.  This seems dishonest on your part. Please list the dishonest posts by rynomster, not posts by battbot.
I am saying you are being intellectualy dishonest in the way you constructed the OP. You say rynomster is dishonest,  then you list posts made predominantly by battbot and attempt to attribute them to rynomster.  

Please specify anything I've said -- for the most part copied -- that isn't true:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You have constructed the OP in attemp to implicate rynomster using quotes from battbot. This is a guilt by association falacy. You include rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.


I am presenting the chronology as it was -- and allow readers to draw their own conclusions, which seem obvious to me and many others -- while you repeat vague accusations about my dishonesty. I leave the record to speak for itself. This is what battbot and rynomster said and did when they said and did it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You included rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.

List the dishonest quotes from rynomster or stop attacking his character.

You clearly dont care at all about honesty or you would not play these games. Im sure this will be abundantly clear to anyone reading these posts.

It is now clear to me that intellectual honesty is not your goal, you are just attempting to bring down an honest man. This is shameful on your part and I will no longer participate.
I think you are afraid of the whole quote. This guy was dead on ^
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August 25, 2014, 09:47:59 AM
#41
Cinnicoin Trolls -  stop the smear campaign  

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8142514

"I was not the original developer of CinniCoin, I just built the encrypted messaging system. My team and I decided to create the ShadowCoin project so we would have the freedom to implement our innovations as we saw best."

-rynomster


Situations change as time passes. It's pretty clear to almost everyone that Rynomster was not in control of the development path at CINNI because he was not the original dev. He probably had ideas not in line with the CINNI dev so he made his own coin....there is no problem with that.

It is time you give the man the respect he deserves. The ShadowCoin EM and Stealth projects are open source, you can check for yourself that the code is original. Use the ShadowCoin EM and stealth system, or the full feature staking android and iOS wallets, you will see they work flawlessly. Time for you trolls to respect a real developer and stop this smear campaign.

The problem with all these devs is they make a living off alt coins. Sticking to one coin won't make them rich. Creating new coins with news features will until they dump and start a new project.
Apparently the cloak dev made himself a lot recently.
:shrug:  I'm not too happy with the FUD in the cloak thread by some large SDC holders, but on the other hand this thread is kind of a WTF moment.  Devs don't owe you a damn thing.  rnymonster or whoever are free to work on whatever they want.  These are open source decentralized projects, not "stocks" or companies, you aren't paying salaries to these devs.  If you're not happy with some aspect of development on say CINNI coin, write some code and submit pull requests on github and contribute.
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August 25, 2014, 09:47:00 AM
#40

The problem with all these devs is they make a living off alt coins. Sticking to one coin won't make them rich. Creating new coins with news features will until they dump and start a new project.
Apparently the cloak dev made himself a lot recently.


Apparently, and that's their prerogative, but its our prerogative as buyers or potential buyers to familiarise ourselves with their patterns and past behavior/actions, inform others and invest (or not invest) accordingly.
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August 25, 2014, 09:44:18 AM
#39

This is so true. He posted all quotes from that battbots guy and then tried to say rynomaster was a part of it. There are like 2 quotes from rynomaster in the OP and 25 from battbots. The quotes from rynomaster don't say anything dishonest at all. He is trying his hardest to bring rynomaster down. Common troll move.

Because rynomaster kept most of his remarks to PM, conversing with battbot and other insiders. I've copied what battbot and rynomster were willing to post to the public forum - whatever they deigned to share with outsiders -- before they left CINNI around the same time. Again, just the facts: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

PS: Care for another round of tennis?
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August 25, 2014, 09:39:03 AM
#38
Cinnicoin Trolls -  stop the smear campaign  

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8142514

"I was not the original developer of CinniCoin, I just built the encrypted messaging system. My team and I decided to create the ShadowCoin project so we would have the freedom to implement our innovations as we saw best."

-rynomster


Situations change as time passes. It's pretty clear to almost everyone that Rynomster was not in control of the development path at CINNI because he was not the original dev. He probably had ideas not in line with the CINNI dev so he made his own coin....there is no problem with that.

It is time you give the man the respect he deserves. The ShadowCoin EM and Stealth projects are open source, you can check for yourself that the code is original. Use the ShadowCoin EM and stealth system, or the full feature staking android and iOS wallets, you will see they work flawlessly. Time for you trolls to respect a real developer and stop this smear campaign.

The problem with all these devs is they make a living off alt coins. Sticking to one coin won't make them rich. Creating new coins with news features will until they dump and start a new project.
Apparently the cloak dev made himself a lot recently.
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August 25, 2014, 09:36:48 AM
#37

I read that link. Again, what are the dishonest posts from rynomster?  There are no dishonest posts from rynomster in that link.
You have wrongly said posts from battbot somehow show dishonesty by rynomster.  This seems dishonest on your part. Please list the dishonest posts by rynomster, not posts by battbot.
I am saying you are being intellectualy dishonest in the way you constructed the OP. You say rynomster is dishonest,  then you list posts made predominantly by battbot and attempt to attribute them to rynomster.  

Please specify anything I've said -- for the most part copied -- that isn't true:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You have constructed the OP in attemp to implicate rynomster using quotes from battbot. This is a guilt by association falacy. You include rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.


I am presenting the chronology as it was -- and allow readers to draw their own conclusions, which seem obvious to me and many others -- while you repeat vague accusations about my dishonesty. I leave the record to speak for itself. This is what battbot and rynomster said and did when they said and did it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You included rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.

List the dishonest quotes from rynomster or stop attacking his character.

You clearly dont care at all about honesty or you would not play these games. Im sure this will be abundantly clear to anyone reading these posts.

It is now clear to me that intellectual honesty is not your goal, you are just attempting to bring down an honest man. This is shameful on your part and I will no longer participate.

This is so true. He posted all quotes from that battbots guy and then tried to say rynomaster was a part of it. There are like 2 quotes from rynomaster in the OP and 25 from battbots. The quotes from rynomaster don't say anything dishonest at all. He is trying his hardest to bring rynomaster down. Common troll move.
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August 25, 2014, 09:31:26 AM
#36

I read that link. Again, what are the dishonest posts from rynomster?  There are no dishonest posts from rynomster in that link.
You have wrongly said posts from battbot somehow show dishonesty by rynomster.  This seems dishonest on your part. Please list the dishonest posts by rynomster, not posts by battbot.
I am saying you are being intellectualy dishonest in the way you constructed the OP. You say rynomster is dishonest,  then you list posts made predominantly by battbot and attempt to attribute them to rynomster.  

Please specify anything I've said -- for the most part copied -- that isn't true:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You have constructed the OP in attemp to implicate rynomster using quotes from battbot. This is a guilt by association falacy. You include rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.


I am presenting the chronology as it was -- and allow readers to draw their own conclusions, which seem obvious to me and many others -- while you repeat vague accusations about my dishonesty. I leave the record to speak for itself. This is what battbot and rynomster said and did when they said and did it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You included rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.

List the dishonest quotes from rynomster or stop attacking his character.

You clearly dont care at all about honesty or you would not play these games. Im sure this will be abundantly clear to anyone reading these posts.

It is now clear to me that intellectual honesty is not your goal, you are just attempting to bring down an honest man. This is shameful on your part and I will no longer participate.


You haven't challenged any of the quotes or chronology presented (copied from the record) while repeatedly calling me dishonest: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524
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August 25, 2014, 09:27:23 AM
#35
well, if Rynomaster is truly not a master of Ryno's then this may be dishonest
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August 25, 2014, 09:25:45 AM
#34

I read that link. Again, what are the dishonest posts from rynomster?  There are no dishonest posts from rynomster in that link.
You have wrongly said posts from battbot somehow show dishonesty by rynomster.  This seems dishonest on your part. Please list the dishonest posts by rynomster, not posts by battbot.
I am saying you are being intellectualy dishonest in the way you constructed the OP. You say rynomster is dishonest,  then you list posts made predominantly by battbot and attempt to attribute them to rynomster.  

Please specify anything I've said -- for the most part copied -- that isn't true:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You have constructed the OP in attemp to implicate rynomster using quotes from battbot. This is a guilt by association falacy. You include rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.


I am presenting the chronology as it was -- and allow readers to draw their own conclusions, which seem obvious to me and many others -- while you repeat vague accusations about my dishonesty. I leave the record to speak for itself. This is what battbot and rynomster said and did when they said and did it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You included rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.

List the dishonest quotes from rynomster or stop attacking his character.

You clearly dont care at all about honesty or you would not play these games. Im sure this will be abundantly clear to anyone reading these posts.

It is now clear to me that intellectual honesty is not your goal, you are just attempting to bring down an honest man. This is shameful on your part and I will no longer participate.
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August 25, 2014, 09:14:42 AM
#33

I read that link. Again, what are the dishonest posts from rynomster?  There are no dishonest posts from rynomster in that link.
You have wrongly said posts from battbot somehow show dishonesty by rynomster.  This seems dishonest on your part. Please list the dishonest posts by rynomster, not posts by battbot.
I am saying you are being intellectualy dishonest in the way you constructed the OP. You say rynomster is dishonest,  then you list posts made predominantly by battbot and attempt to attribute them to rynomster.  

Please specify anything I've said -- for the most part copied -- that isn't true:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You have constructed the OP in attemp to implicate rynomster using quotes from battbot. This is a guilt by association falacy. You include rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.


I am presenting the chronology as it was -- and allow readers to draw their own conclusions, which seem obvious to me and many others -- while you repeat vague accusations about my dishonesty. I leave the record to speak for itself. This is what battbot and rynomster said and did when they said and did it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524
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August 25, 2014, 09:11:48 AM
#32

I read that link. Again, what are the dishonest posts from rynomster?  There are no dishonest posts from rynomster in that link.
You have wrongly said posts from battbot somehow show dishonesty by rynomster.  This seems dishonest on your part. Please list the dishonest posts by rynomster, not posts by battbot.
I am saying you are being intellectualy dishonest in the way you constructed the OP. You say rynomster is dishonest,  then you list posts made predominantly by battbot and attempt to attribute them to rynomster.  

Please specify anything I've said -- for the most part copied -- that isn't true:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

You have constructed the OP in attempt to implicate rynomster using quotes from battbot. This is called a guilt by association fallacy. You include rynomster in an undesirable list of quotes made by other people in attempt to implicate him. This is by definition, intellectual dishonesty.

List the dishonest quotes from rynomster or stop attacking his character.
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August 25, 2014, 09:02:53 AM
#31

I read that link. Again, what are the dishonest posts from rynomster?  There are no dishonest posts from rynomster in that link.
You have wrongly said posts from battbot somehow show dishonesty by rynomster.  This seems dishonest on your part. Please list the dishonest posts by rynomster, not posts by battbot.
I am saying you are being intellectualy dishonest in the way you constructed the OP. You say rynomster is dishonest,  then you list posts made predominantly by battbot and attempt to attribute them to rynomster.  

Please specify anything I've said -- for the most part copied -- that isn't true:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524
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August 25, 2014, 08:50:40 AM
#30
Rynomster was not the dev of CinniCoin. Almost all the posts are of "battbot". It seems lkke you are trying to drag Rynomster down with quotes by battbot. Than seems a little dishonest IMO.

Maybe you should actually read the post and learn the truth instead of looking to inoculate rynomster - the truth of what happened and didn't happen is there for anyone to see and come to their own conclusions, which to me are rather obvious. These are both battbot and rynomster in their own words.

I am reading. What posts of Rynomster are showing him dishonest?  Are you saying battbot and rynomster are the same person?  If not, rynomster can not be incremented by these postings from battbot.


I can't force anyone to see the obvious - the quotes from battbot and rynomster are all there, complete with the chronology, for people to see the truth for themselves, if they choose to see it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

What are the dishonest posts from rynomster? You have shown posts from battbot and wrongly attributed them to rynomster...that seems dishonest on your part IMO.


You keep calling me dishonest and pretend you can't read all the comments from rynomster here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524


I read that link. Again, what are the dishonest posts from rynomster?  There are no dishonest posts from rynomster in that link.
You have wrongly said posts from battbot somehow show dishonesty by rynomster.  This seems dishonest on your part. Please list the dishonest posts by rynomster, not posts by battbot.
I am saying you are being intellectualy dishonest in the way you constructed the OP. You say rynomster is dishonest,  then you list posts made predominantly by battbot and attempt to attribute them to rynomster.  
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August 25, 2014, 08:43:50 AM
#29
Rynomster was not the dev of CinniCoin. Almost all the posts are of "battbot". It seems lkke you are trying to drag Rynomster down with quotes by battbot. Than seems a little dishonest IMO.

Maybe you should actually read the post and learn the truth instead of looking to inoculate rynomster - the truth of what happened and didn't happen is there for anyone to see and come to their own conclusions, which to me are rather obvious. These are both battbot and rynomster in their own words.

I am reading. What posts of Rynomster are showing him dishonest?  Are you saying battbot and rynomster are the same person?  If not, rynomster can not be incremented by these postings from battbot.


I can't force anyone to see the obvious - the quotes from battbot and rynomster are all there, complete with the chronology, for people to see the truth for themselves, if they choose to see it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

What are the dishonest posts from rynomster? You have shown posts from battbot and wrongly attributed them to rynomster...that seems dishonest on your part IMO.


You keep calling me dishonest and pretend you can't read all the comments from rynomster himself here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524
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August 25, 2014, 08:39:56 AM
#28
Rynomster was not the dev of CinniCoin. Almost all the posts are of "battbot". It seems lkke you are trying to drag Rynomster down with quotes by battbot. Than seems a little dishonest IMO.

Maybe you should actually read the post and learn the truth instead of looking to inoculate rynomster - the truth of what happened and didn't happen is there for anyone to see and come to their own conclusions, which to me are rather obvious. These are both battbot and rynomster in their own words.

I am reading. What posts of Rynomster are showing him dishonest?  Are you saying battbot and rynomster are the same person?  If not, rynomster can not be incremented by these postings from battbot.


I can't force anyone to see the obvious - the quotes from battbot and rynomster are all there, complete with the chronology, for people to see the truth for themselves, if they choose to see it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8523524

What are the dishonest posts from rynomster? You have shown posts from battbot and wrongly attributed them to rynomster...that seems dishonest on your part IMO.
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