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Topic: Please, stop having children. (Discussion about overpopulation) - page 2. (Read 10799 times)

legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!
Humans are just another animal and will pass "K" in our lifetime. Be ready or be eaten.

So said Malthus. There is a very important distinction - animals can't increase their "K," while humans do it in perpetuity. We MAKE our "K"... it is not a set limit.
I have to disagree. We can increase or efficiency but that will only lead to more population growth. In the end there is still a limit that can not be exceeded.
legendary
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Democracy is the original 51% attack
Humans are just another animal and will pass "K" in our lifetime. Be ready or be eaten.

So said Malthus. There is a very important distinction - animals can't increase their "K," while humans do it in perpetuity. We MAKE our "K"... it is not a set limit.
legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!
Bio 101 Species always grow in population until they surpass carrying capacity. Then they crash. Humans are just another animal and will pass "K" in our lifetime. Be ready or be eaten.
hero member
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Want to solve really tough problems? We need more Einsteins. How do you get more Einsteins?

We're not gonna create more Einsteins by producing another billion people living in abject poverty.  Einsteins aren't born by chance. Well, at least the Einstein creation rate is very low if you just rely on chance. No, Einsteins are made.  Einsteins are created with the correct stimuli and environment.

There are just 13 million Jewish people in the world, yet they have produced almost half of all Nobel prize winners. How many Nobel prize winners came out of ethnic groups with high birth rates, that far outnumber Jewish people? Culture and education is everything, not brute force numbers.

Well perhaps the world needs more Jewish people. It's a shame they are a "by invitation only" club. Or at least the rest of the world should emulate whatever they are doing right.

In any case, scarce resources should be spent on giving fewer children a quality education, not on quantity. That way we could easily go from 1 Einstein per century to 10 Einsteins per century.
hero member
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No, stop having children because it's idiotic.

Kids means sacrificing and compromising at least part of your dreams and goals.

But you are sacrificing your life for what? So that your kid can sacrifice her life for her kids, ad infinitum?  That's absurd.

When having kids, you are not acting in your own best interest, you are acting in your genes' best interest.  

Well guess what, your genes are not conscious or capable of reason or compassion.  They are completely "dumb" and they will discard your body as soon as they have fulfilled their primitive mission.   You are just the sucker who they need for replication.  They have no "deeper purpose" other than replication for the sake of replication.  

That's why I say: Outsmart your genes and don't waste your resources on kids,  use them to attain immortality instead (or at least life extension and human enhancement).
hero member
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You are putting the Cart before the Horse friend.
newbie
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This not true at all.  The Renaissance stemmed from people being released from the confines of a Feudal/Monarchical system of control.  In 13th century Italy, where it had it's beginnings(and spread over centuries from there) people were experiencing Political and Social freedoms.  This intellectual awakening flowed into more than just the Political and Social realms.  When people are free you will see them reach far beyond their grasp and accomplish amazing things.
I don't think we are in disagreement here. With political/social freedom comes economic freedom. Feudal lords and monarchs stopped taking and wasting people's money/resources/labor/time. People are allowed to keep more of their money/resources, save it for emergencies/retirement, invest it in productive endeavors, etc. Savings allows for free time - to become entrepreneurs, and push the limits of our knowledge. How can you say "this is not true at all" when we are in perfect agreement?
hero member
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Or clean Water.  This is ofcourse by design.  What more effective way to kill people off than starvation or thirst.  Lower the global food output by say 20%.  How many millions would this kill worldwide?  GMO crops, contaminated water.  Elites buying up what's left to reap the biggest profits ever.  They are trying to kill us and have the planet for themselves.



"The issue is there isn't enough food"
sr. member
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Elder Crypto God
If everyone on Earth lived in a typical 2000 square foot home on a typical sized plot of land, we could fit the entire world population inside of Texas. Please stop claiming there are too many people. The planet is mostly empty. The issue is there isn't enough food. We need more food grown more efficiently. We also need more people! I love people! I may be biased though. Want to solve really tough problems? We need more Einsteins. How do you get more Einsteins? You grow the population to support a few more billion people. Eventually, a few of them will be exceptionally brilliant and break through these tough problems.

If you want to reduce the population, kill yourself. The fact you're still alive reading this means that even you don't believe your stupid theory.
hero member
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This not true at all.  The Renaissance stemmed from people being released from the confines of a Feudal/Monarchical system of control.  In 13th century Italy, where it had it's beginnings(and spread over centuries from there) people were experiencing Political and Social freedoms.  This intellectual awakening flowed into more than just the Political and Social realms.  When people are free you will see them reach far beyond their grasp and accomplish amazing things.

The opposite it also true, as we can see around the world today where we are all being put back under the slavemasters boot.  Who can argue against the fact we are all being dumbed down worldwide by Government controlled Education.  Toss a little Flouride and Mercury laced Vaccines into the mix and you've got a nice little Labotomy for the General Population.


Please have more children! We need more division of labor! The ability to specialize brings technological progress in all fields, whether science, engineering, medicine, etc. The ability to pursue a career in a field that you enjoy is only made possible by the fact that all other necessities have been taken care of for you. The Renaissance was only possible once people had free time to think.
newbie
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Please have more children! We need more division of labor! The ability to specialize brings technological progress in all fields, whether science, engineering, medicine, etc. The ability to pursue a career in a field that you enjoy is only made possible by the fact that all other necessities have been taken care of for you. The Renaissance was only possible once people had free time to think.
hero member
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1st world nations have a negative population growth(this does not include immigration, but procreation).  Any industrial nation will develop a negative poulation growth.  The Elites of the world know this.  But instead of allowing 2nd and 3rd world nations to develop and achieve this(as well as a self sufficient economy) they keep these countries in misery and enact population control protocols such as GMO and vaccine induced sterilization/elimination.  Why else do you think people in Africa run now when Western Doctors come with vaccines in hand and refuse to eat food supplied from abroad.  These people are learning.

When people start to see there are Malevolent people pulling the strings at the top they can actually start fighting back.

Anyone that subscribes to this Overpopulation Propaganga is just an intellectual slave in their Matrix.
newbie
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live and let live  Cool

Technology will take care of your concerns in time
legendary
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legendary
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In developed countries we actually need people to have MORE children.
Why?

Because the population is aging.
legendary
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In developed countries we actually need people to have MORE children.

Why?
legendary
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Might be good advice for most African countries.

Apart from that, I DISAGREE with the OP, VHEMT CoE and other morons.

In developed countries we actually need people to have MORE children.
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respecttheslider
Overpopulation is and will only be an issue in the eastern hemisphere were everyone is poor and stupid.

Two of the largest countries in the West: the USA and Brazil burn the consumables corn and sugar for gasoline.

OP is a total ignoramus; this appears to more about finger banging mother earth a humans are poison mentality.

Get with it folks if you don't work the government will bring in ..Mexicans and Asians to do it.

If you don't make babies the government is more than glad to bring in ..Mexicans and Asians to do it.

Don't forget the foreigners don't wait until forty something to have children either.
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Tragically anyone who has the understanding to be concerned with this problem is not the people who shouldn't be having kids, but those that should be.  Do you think that the people with no care or understanding of this issue have stopped having children?
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I like people that have no kids, because they are giving space for my future ones.

I like people who have kids they can't afford, because they are creating future sweat-shop workers.
fortunately, it is not my case. :-D
People are a commodity. The more there are the less their worth.
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