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Topic: Pocket Dice – The first realistic dice game - page 24. (Read 82215 times)

legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Stop playing at pocketdice.io, they are a scam and if you win big, you will never get paid.

Be warned!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pocketdiceio-scammed-102btc-please-help-1620544
Stop playing at pocketdice.io, they are a scam and if you win big, you will never get paid.

Be warned!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pocketdiceio-scammed-102btc-please-help-1620544

I am pretty sure he is legitimate winner, and they are finding a way to confiscate his winnings or to delay a payment.
Do not play at Pocket Dice until this case is resolved.
hero member
Activity: 609
Merit: 500
Pocket dice is a serious scammer, they congrated the winner but they refused to pay, you are scammer, you are fraudster, people don't play here unless you want to lose money here.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pocketdiceio-scammed-102btc-please-help-1620544
full member
Activity: 137
Merit: 100
Stop playing at pocketdice.io, they are a scam and if you win big, you will never get paid.

Be warned!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pocketdiceio-scammed-102btc-please-help-1620544
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
Yes I agree with the site is very classy and professional looking. I love this site because it usually never lags unlike most of the other more professional bitcoin casinos.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
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Hey everyone!

Many of you have noticed that Pocket Dice has been down for quite a long time. We're sorry about that and our technical staff has been working on this problem diligently to get Pocket Dice up again. Now we're back online and if you have any questions about bonuses, or anything else – please make sure to contact our support team at [email protected].

Once again, we're sorry for inconvenience.

Pocket Dice team.
I really like the new design pocketdice. never felt the profit BTC from here. although only small. Grin
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
Love this site! Design is really awesome.

Great work!
sr. member
Activity: 342
Merit: 250


Hey everyone!

Many of you have noticed that Pocket Dice has been down for quite a long time. We're sorry about that and our technical staff has been working on this problem diligently to get Pocket Dice up again. Now we're back online and if you have any questions about bonuses, or anything else – please make sure to contact our support team at [email protected].

Once again, we're sorry for inconvenience.

Pocket Dice team.
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
https://pocketdice.io/site/img/external/most_profit_rating_201609_1.png

There have been some DOPE wins this weekend at Pocket Dice! Check out our leaderboard to see the TOP profit players of September! Chelashin – big up!
pocketdice.io

Did chelashin win the site out of existence?  Been down for a while.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723


There have been some DOPE wins this weekend at Pocket Dice! Check out our leaderboard to see the TOP profit players of September! Chelashin – big up!
pocketdice.io

Yeah he sure is a master that guy  Chelashin look how much ahead he was compared to the next running up. I want to know his secret. Or maybe its just luck.
sr. member
Activity: 342
Merit: 250


There have been some DOPE wins this weekend at Pocket Dice! Check out our leaderboard to see the TOP profit players of September! Chelashin – big up!
pocketdice.io
hero member
Activity: 519
Merit: 500
   I`m reading this discussion about provably fair gaming on this site, and I see there is some problem. People just dont agree that this is fair site, that is bad. I`m playing there with their faucet, nice design, I can say one of a kind, I didnt saw that kind of dices anywhere else.
   Too bad there is a problem with them, I thought its easy to make money there, even I didnt won nothing with faucet. I come to 20 000 satoshis and then I lose everything in couple throws. And minimum withdraw is 50 000 satoshis. I thought to deposit some money for first time on dices on this site, now I`m sure I will not until they resolve situation with this provably fair playing.

Don't give up to tentation and keep playing with faucet until they can prove without any doubt that they're fair.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
   I`m reading this discussion about provably fair gaming on this site, and I see there is some problem. People just dont agree that this is fair site, that is bad. I`m playing there with their faucet, nice design, I can say one of a kind, I didnt saw that kind of dices anywhere else.
   Too bad there is a problem with them, I thought its easy to make money there, even I didnt won nothing with faucet. I come to 20 000 satoshis and then I lose everything in couple throws. And minimum withdraw is 50 000 satoshis. I thought to deposit some money for first time on dices on this site, now I`m sure I will not until they resolve situation with this provably fair playing.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
He is correct. The bigger and smaller gambling sites are more or less the same but the smaller ones probably have very little capital compared to PrimeDice and one large whale can cause the entire bankroll to disappear. That's why many investors don't want to invest in any gambling sites like that.
hero member
Activity: 519
Merit: 500

The new implementation is a huge improvement and even makes it much easier to verify too. So good job Smiley

However, I did noticed it could be improved. Basically a problem is that the client-seed is always known to the site before giving a server-seed. In theory this means the site could loop quickly some server-seeds and generate 1 that makes "preferable outcomes" based on that client-seed based on the previous plays of the user. Is this likely? No and an easy counterargument is that the player could exploit this (by playing the opposite style after getting a new server-seed.) But it is easy to improve.

To improve this, PocketDice should do 1 of these options:
1) Have a separate "New server-seed" button, so the "Change client-seed" really only changes the client-seed (not the server-seed nor the nonce1.)
2) Show the NEXT server-seed hash in that "Change client-seed" popup.

I don't have a preference, both are fine (for example: BK = first option, PD = second option.)

Ps, a lot of sites that newly implement the nonce-implementation don't consider the above scenario and even I didn't notice it a few days ago when I first looked. So I obviously don't think it's on purpose, but would be great if it could be improved Smiley





1. Note that if you change the client-seed & nonce - but not the server-seed, a player could cheat. This really happened sometimes on other gambling sites.

Thanks for your explanation.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 503
How much money did you lose in this site? This site is not a famous one, I won't bet here. Only play in reliable sites, guys.

I disagree that being famous is a good test for determining reliability, lots of famous sites will rob you blind and lots of famous sites were made even more famous after scandal, like MtGox? But I am curious, what other criteria do you use to determine reliability? What criteria would you use to determine the reliability of pocketdice? What is your experience with pocketdice that has led you to discouraging people from using the site?
Yeah usually the less known sites have better payouts since they are having less traffic and less competition. A lot of bigger sites get abused by bots the payouts have to be lowered as per I have experience these personally too.


But the issue is that the not so popular sites dont have the required capital to be popular they dont have the capacity for high rollers. Even players dont encourage the not so popular sites....
hero member
Activity: 2688
Merit: 588
How much money did you lose in this site? This site is not a famous one, I won't bet here. Only play in reliable sites, guys.

I disagree that being famous is a good test for determining reliability, lots of famous sites will rob you blind and lots of famous sites were made even more famous after scandal, like MtGox? But I am curious, what other criteria do you use to determine reliability? What criteria would you use to determine the reliability of pocketdice? What is your experience with pocketdice that has led you to discouraging people from using the site?
Yeah usually the less known sites have better payouts since they are having less traffic and less competition. A lot of bigger sites get abused by bots the payouts have to be lowered as per I have experience these personally too.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1295
DiceSites.com owner
Lol, yeh just don't reset nonce on option 1 and it's fine. Seems pretty obvious but I remember at least once that a site had it :p (forgot name.)


Option 2 fine too though.
sr. member
Activity: 244
Merit: 250
The first option, as you have correctly noticed, may be abused easily by players.

Thats just not true.
sr. member
Activity: 342
Merit: 250
Is this really provably fair now?

I'll wait for some trusted confirmation as I don't believe these guys.
The new implementation is a huge improvement and even makes it much easier to verify too. So good job Smiley

However, I did noticed it could be improved. Basically a problem is that the client-seed is always known to the site before giving a server-seed. In theory this means the site could loop quickly some server-seeds and generate 1 that makes "preferable outcomes" based on that client-seed based on the previous plays of the user. Is this likely? No and an easy counterargument is that the player could exploit this (by playing the opposite style after getting a new server-seed.) But it is easy to improve.

To improve this, PocketDice should do 1 of these options:
1) Have a separate "New server-seed" button, so the "Change client-seed" really only changes the client-seed (not the server-seed nor the nonce1.)
2) Show the NEXT server-seed hash in that "Change client-seed" popup.

I don't have a preference, both are fine (for example: BK = first option, PD = second option.)

Ps, a lot of sites that newly implement the nonce-implementation don't consider the above scenario and even I didn't notice it a few days ago when I first looked. So I obviously don't think it's on purpose, but would be great if it could be improved Smiley

1. Note that if you change the client-seed & nonce - but not the server-seed, a player could cheat. This really happened sometimes on other gambling sites.

Hi there and thank you for your detailed comment!

The first option, as you have correctly noticed, may be abused easily by players. The second one looks way better, we will consider it for future updates of our provably fair system.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1295
DiceSites.com owner
Is this really provably fair now?

I'll wait for some trusted confirmation as I don't believe these guys.
The new implementation is a huge improvement and even makes it much easier to verify too. So good job Smiley

However, I did noticed it could be improved. Basically a problem is that the client-seed is always known to the site before giving a server-seed. In theory this means the site could loop quickly some server-seeds and generate 1 that makes "preferable outcomes" based on that client-seed based on the previous plays of the user. Is this likely? No and an easy counterargument is that the player could exploit this (by playing the opposite style after getting a new server-seed.) But it is easy to improve.

To improve this, PocketDice should do 1 of these options:
1) Have a separate "New server-seed" button, so the "Change client-seed" really only changes the client-seed (not the server-seed nor the nonce1.)
2) Show the NEXT server-seed hash in that "Change client-seed" popup.

I don't have a preference, both are fine (for example: BK = first option, PD = second option.)

Ps, a lot of sites that newly implement the nonce-implementation don't consider the above scenario and even I didn't notice it a few days ago when I first looked. So I obviously don't think it's on purpose, but would be great if it could be improved Smiley





1. Note that if you change the client-seed & nonce - but not the server-seed, a player could cheat. This really happened sometimes on other gambling sites.
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