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Topic: Poker casino but need KYC, is this really necessary? (Read 1742 times)

legendary
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Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?


I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them  Cheesy

About 5 years ago it used to be much more free and open when it came to playing online poker - as long as you had access to a credit/debit card they were willing to take your money (presumably using that to validate you were old enough). However I have definitely noticed that all the old places that I used to play now require you to send quite extensive documentation - personal ID scans, bank statement scans, utility bills, etc. in order to verify. They must be afraid of government crackdowns and take the most extreme measures to stay within money laundering regulations. It's quite disappointing in a way because I don't really trust these places to store such documentation safely and securely, nor to dispose of it after they've finished checking them.
It is such a shame, I remember those days as well, you could play against a lot of people in fiat casinos and still the amount of information that you were asked for was on the low side which is why at that time I was happy to play poker online, but then things began to change and they asked you a whole lot of information and that is when I decided it was not worth to let go of my privacy as poker rooms began to ask all kind of information that is not really necessary for them.

Most of the casinos collect personal data of their players even though they aren't even allowed to provide their services within many of the countries as they lack the licenses. That is what is happening in Europe in a couple of countries. Most of them are registered in Malta, but that doesn't mean they can offer services to players of other European Union countries. They even have to reimburse players in some cases for lost money for the last three years.
hero member
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Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?


I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them  Cheesy

About 5 years ago it used to be much more free and open when it came to playing online poker - as long as you had access to a credit/debit card they were willing to take your money (presumably using that to validate you were old enough). However I have definitely noticed that all the old places that I used to play now require you to send quite extensive documentation - personal ID scans, bank statement scans, utility bills, etc. in order to verify. They must be afraid of government crackdowns and take the most extreme measures to stay within money laundering regulations. It's quite disappointing in a way because I don't really trust these places to store such documentation safely and securely, nor to dispose of it after they've finished checking them.
It is such a shame, I remember those days as well, you could play against a lot of people in fiat casinos and still the amount of information that you were asked for was on the low side which is why at that time I was happy to play poker online, but then things began to change and they asked you a whole lot of information and that is when I decided it was not worth to let go of my privacy as poker rooms began to ask all kind of information that is not really necessary for them.
hero member
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This is really strange to me and I don't think I would ever think doing kyc just to paly games on platforms that require kyc which is unnecessary to me. Kyc data is not something that needs to be disclosed to on internet especially when betting which can be another form of tracking down customers if the need arise.There are many  gambling platforms that have poker casinos and are well to do without kyc which re even more better and flexible with good bonuses, so why will I risk my info for a penny.
^ As long as you can choose a gambling site that never asks KYC for poker you are good to go. There are few gambling sites that you can gamble without submitting KYC verification until there is no one left and then you are entitled to submit KYC procedures upon using them. Let us accept that from time to time it is being a part to have a mandatory KYC verification. We should carefully choose which is the legit one to use that we can trust to hold our documents in long run. Because there is nothing we can do if everything is following local jurisdictions and the law.
member
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Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?


I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them  Cheesy
This is really strange to me and I don't think I would ever think doing kyc just to paly games on platforms that require kyc which is unnecessary to me. Kyc data is not something that needs to be disclosed to on internet especially when betting which can be another form of tracking down customers if the need arise.There are many  gambling platforms that have poker casinos and are well to do without kyc which re even more better and flexible with good bonuses, so why will I risk my info for a penny.
legendary
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1166
This is what annoyed me a hundred times already. They should conduct the KYC process right when you register with them and they should also let you know whether you are all set or not before they accept the first deposits. But they know they get you stuck and when you want o withdraw time plays in their favor because they delay the process and hope that you start using your money again and perhaps lose it all. There are only a few providers where the KYC process is super fast and seamless. The harder the KYC process, the less legitimate is the website in my opinion.
Some casinos show the requirement to fills KYC for their members and it is written in their Terms and Conditions but most gamblers do not aware of this instead still register on that site and deposit some money. After they win some money and want to withdraw the win money, they knew that the casino asked them to fill KYC, which made them feel trick. Usually, the KYC process does not take a long time so the gamblers can continue withdrawing the money.

It is not the point that they do require KYC at all, it is the point that they let you deposit but not withdrawal. It doesn't make a lot of sense from a money laundering standpoint because what is going to happen with the money afterwards? In most of the cases they just deactivate your account and keep it for themselves. They can just erase your data from the database and pretend you have never been on their platform once they are sure you are not going to pass their KYC requirements.
Also, many of them say in their T&C that they "might" conduct KYC if they deem it necessary. Sure, it is always necessary when you win, right?
legendary
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It depends on the requirements of the regulatory authorities, not the desire of the casino or gamblers. You want to get a license for gambling, be kind to ensure the process of identification and verification of the customer, regardless of what types of deposits are available at the gaming site.
hero member
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It is better that the casino requires you to pass the KYC verification at the very beginning than, as is in some cases passing, when you want to withdraw money.
When it comes to the KYC requirement itself, there is already such a large selection of casinos on the market that you can easily find one that does not require it.
In my opinion, if someone changed the form of the game from fiat to crypto, it is in order to be anonymous, so the requirement of KYC if someone only plays cryptocurrencies should not be required.
sr. member
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Whether a casino is "good" or "bad" is a separate matter really, the issue here is that your details are directly linked into an online database of the casino. Once that certain casino causes a leak or is hacked, no matter how "good" the casino is, your personal details would still be leaked nonetheless. It's a small possibility yes, but a possibility nonetheless. That's only a small part though, since there are still casinos that could leak said data.
If they are good or bad plays a bigger role when you are giving your KYC as well. Think about it this way, you are already forced to give your KYC, so you can decline and move to another place and that would be the end of it, however if you decide to stay would you rather do it for a casino that looks shady and may get "hacked" and take everyone's money and goes blank? Or would you rather do it for a place like stake that is true to their word for nearly a decade now?

It is not even about not wanting to be scammed, it is about my KYC being at the hands of a place that is shady, because shady casinos could scam your money but they could also use your KYC or even sell your KYC as well, so that is why it is always a lot worse for a bad place to have your information, which I believe is the difference between a bad casino and a good casino having your information.
hero member
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This is what annoyed me a hundred times already. They should conduct the KYC process right when you register with them and they should also let you know whether you are all set or not before they accept the first deposits. But they know they get you stuck and when you want o withdraw time plays in their favor because they delay the process and hope that you start using your money again and perhaps lose it all. There are only a few providers where the KYC process is super fast and seamless. The harder the KYC process, the less legitimate is the website in my opinion.
Some casinos show the requirement to fills KYC for their members and it is written in their Terms and Conditions but most gamblers do not aware of this instead still register on that site and deposit some money. After they win some money and want to withdraw the win money, they knew that the casino asked them to fill KYC, which made them feel trick. Usually, the KYC process does not take a long time so the gamblers can continue withdrawing the money.
legendary
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I guess this thread is reserved for consistent poker players who have played and earned enough to be withdrawn since the know best but I know some casinos demand for KYC upon registration and some when you want to withdraw your wins but what ever the case casinos demanding for KYC shouldn't really be a bad idea atleast it might help regulate addiction and management of funds
Not true , this thread must be for everyone and for me practically this must be for the newbies also because mostly they are the victim of casinos in this KYC thing .

some gambling site does not require KYC when you starts playing or even account creation , but when they finally needs to withdraw then KYC will be revealed and needs to comply or else you will never get your funds.

but good that there are site who requires KYC from the beginning .

This is what annoyed me a hundred times already. They should conduct the KYC process right when you register with them and they should also let you know whether you are all set or not before they accept the first deposits. But they know they get you stuck and when you want o withdraw time plays in their favor because they delay the process and hope that you start using your money again and perhaps lose it all. There are only a few providers where the KYC process is super fast and seamless. The harder the KYC process, the less legitimate is the website in my opinion.
hero member
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I guess this thread is reserved for consistent poker players who have played and earned enough to be withdrawn since the know best
It's for everyone that's interested about poker and open to discuss what you feel about the need of having a KYC for most poker sites.
but I know some casinos demand for KYC upon registration and some when you want to withdraw your wins but what ever the case casinos demanding for KYC shouldn't really be a bad idea atleast it might help regulate addiction and management of funds
There's pros and cons on it and different opinions will matter into it because we're having different experiences when we are asked KYC when we are about to withdraw from a casino.
full member
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I guess this thread is reserved for consistent poker players who have played and earned enough to be withdrawn since the know best but I know some casinos demand for KYC upon registration and some when you want to withdraw your wins but what ever the case casinos demanding for KYC shouldn't really be a bad idea atleast it might help regulate addiction and management of funds
Not true , this thread must be for everyone and for me practically this must be for the newbies also because mostly they are the victim of casinos in this KYC thing .

some gambling site does not require KYC when you starts playing or even account creation , but when they finally needs to withdraw then KYC will be revealed and needs to comply or else you will never get your funds.

but good that there are site who requires KYC from the beginning .
hero member
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I am concerned about the customer's data misuse because we do not know what they will do with our personal data.
But somehow, I still do not prefer to use casinos that require KYC as playing gambling for some people is just for fun and not trying to make money.
Maybe in this pandemic, the government sees that online gambling grows faster than a few years ago so they think that will be a good income for the country if they can force the casino to follow their new rules.
Yes, it is about money because the government wants to get more income tax from many businesses, especially in this pandemic, their income drop drastically.
The government sees this as an opportunity to gain benefits from online gambling.

I think every gambler will be concerned too about giving their personal details in a poker casino because some or many of the gamblers didn't want to disclosed their personal details and the fear that it may be misused is highly prioritize. Some of the gamblers too didn't come to casino or online casino to earn money but some are just here for fun. Somehow, I would agree with you mate that this kind of regulation was required by the government to impose a tax to a gamblers which of course one of the way of a government to earn money.
Maybe I think the government can ask for the casino's taxes and not try to force the casino to add KYC requirements on their site to their members.
The casino itself will not lose its members because of KYC verifications and the casino can still pay the taxes without anything hide from the government.
Maybe that can work in online gambling or offline gambling as the government still getting taxes from the casino while the casino can getting more members because they do not use KYC.
If that can be like that, it will be a win-win solution for the casino and the government and the gambler will benefit because they do not have to expose their identity to anyone side.
hero member
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I guess this thread is reserved for consistent poker players who have played and earned enough to be withdrawn since the know best but I know some casinos demand for KYC upon registration and some when you want to withdraw your wins but what ever the case casinos demanding for KYC shouldn't really be a bad idea atleast it might help regulate addiction and management of funds
KYC for the sake of regulating addiction and management of funds? This isnt something a solid reason on why they've been implementing this stuff.It all matters with regulation because if you do look

at on this market then it all matters with anonymity but since these platforms are regulated then it isnt surprising that sooner or later they would really be implementing this as it been asked
and they wont have any choice.

This isnt something about those fund management or something bullshit reason.
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I guess this thread is reserved for consistent poker players who have played and earned enough to be withdrawn since the know best but I know some casinos demand for KYC upon registration and some when you want to withdraw your wins but what ever the case casinos demanding for KYC shouldn't really be a bad idea atleast it might help regulate addiction and management of funds
hero member
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What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

The purpose of KYC is to protect the gambling establishment of fraud and other scams. While it may add an extra layer of security on the gambling website, it also provides a huge risk for gamblers in terms of their safety and identity as it is been exposed to the gambling website. That is why, I highly suggest that people should submit KYC documents to familiar gambling websites to also add a layer of security on their end.

Personally, I would avoid gambling websites that mandates KYC documents as a pre-requisite in withdrawing your funds. It is just too risky to expose your identity in an online set-up where anyone can have access on it.

But I am sure that famous gambling sites must have a secure way so that the user's identity cannot be accessed by others so that this will be the secret of the team to secure the identity of those who do so much KYC, of course this is an extra layer but some are still reluctant to KYC but I don't think it's a big deal if we already believe in the gamble.

But this has become a consequence that must be obeyed if gambling implements it, but it is a fact that the requirements in the future will be much stricter to secure user accounts.
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since you can never tell which poker games will be high stakes or not and for that matter it's better to offer the same type of security for all games within your site by adding KYC upon signup. That way everyone is secured and no one gets left out.
You can actually tell if thr sites wants to label the site that they want to be high stakes, I mean they can easily declare that to enter a room, there's a minimum amount that will indicate that it's a high stakes game.
hero member
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What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

The purpose of KYC is to protect the gambling establishment of fraud and other scams. While it may add an extra layer of security on the gambling website, it also provides a huge risk for gamblers in terms of their safety and identity as it is been exposed to the gambling website. That is why, I highly suggest that people should submit KYC documents to familiar gambling websites to also add a layer of security on their end.

Personally, I would avoid gambling websites that mandates KYC documents as a pre-requisite in withdrawing your funds. It is just too risky to expose your identity in an online set-up where anyone can have access on it.
legendary
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Almost the average person will refuse to provide an identity for whatever the offer is for fear of having their identity card misused, you have to verify the platform and make sure it doesn't specify the KYC obligation rules then it will be better before you deposit funds to the poker platform.

Actually, almost all of the average people you are talking about don't have a problem with complying with KYC.

The only problem is, it should not be applicable to a crypto-gambling site where operations and services are different compare to crypto exchanges.

If there's a time that my preferred gambling site will ask for KYC, I'm sorry but I need to find another one. I don't really feel comfortable being a public person on my gambling activity. It's a personal thing.
sr. member
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$200 is a big amount for people like me who are living in a third world country if I can withdraw it without depositing a big amount of money and do not have to play but it's not possible of course they want you to lose that bonus and the money that you deposited and at the same time do KYC, so I don't think I will take a bite on this kind of offer. 
Almost the average person will refuse to provide an identity for whatever the offer is for fear of having their identity card misused, you have to verify the platform and make sure it doesn't specify the KYC obligation rules then it will be better before you deposit funds to the poker platform.
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