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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 29, 2021, 07:05:58 AM

Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 29, 2021, 02:56:12 AM

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I rather will look at another casino and not to go for KYC. Know your customer is not ideal for cryptocurrency that is suppose to be discreet in our transaction. A casino don't need kyc to function or for withdrawal, they can only restrict withdrawal, make a daily limit for it.

i know right ?! the idea of KYC on crypto casinos and also exchanges is messed up and kind of defeat the purpose of crypto, it was meant to be anonymous, a daily limit is a good option though, but making KYC a must is just stupid.

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Quote from: magneto on July 31, 2021, 06:14:36 PM

Obviously on one wants to do KYC.

But there are two main reasons why casinos would attempt to enforce it.

1. There is actual legislation that requires them to collect this info, in which case they have no choice but to collect it. Otherwise the government may crack down on their services.

OR

2. They are using KYC as an excuse to hold onto player funds, which is definitely the more commonplace practice imho. And the worst are the those who don't notify you of this beforehand.

Nothing the player can do about it, just avoid casinos with a reputation/track record of doing this.

Much better for the player to abide the rules and regulations if they trusted the casino that they usually been playing.
Casinos with no such reputation, I think it might put our friends funds at risk of losing it so let's think about it for so many times.
Government will take hold on our private informations, that's why compliance is very important but struggling for all users.

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 29, 2021, 02:56:12 AM

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

The majority of these poker casinos and gambling sites do not ask for KYC because they know that many gamblers do not want to go through a KYC, they only ask it if the player has an issue on his account and wants to verify, if you have a new pokers site and ask KYC right away, that is something to be concern about, they should ask only when there's an issue and it should not a policy.

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Obviously on one wants to do KYC.

But there are two main reasons why casinos would attempt to enforce it.

1. There is actual legislation that requires them to collect this info, in which case they have no choice but to collect it. Otherwise the government may crack down on their services.

OR

2. They are using KYC as an excuse to hold onto player funds, which is definitely the more commonplace practice imho. And the worst are the those who don't notify you of this beforehand.

Nothing the player can do about it, just avoid casinos with a reputation/track record of doing this.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 31, 2021, 05:53:09 AM

Quote from: Peanutswar on July 30, 2021, 10:34:33 PM

There are platforms today that requires having a KYC for their platform because they want to make sure that most of their users are authentic also to prevent having spam on an account if the platform has their own referral system, rakeback or any kind thing that can abuse their system. Having KYC is another set of security for their system to prevent attacks. Also if you don't want having a KYC options to play you can freely change the platform you are using its your rights if you want to protect your information.

If the casino is really trying to avoid spamming accounts for the referral system or rakeback, it can disable this option for accounts that have not passed the KYC. But I have not seen that somewhere it happened this way - it means that this is not the main reason for introducing the KYC.

Not a solid reason and you are right it isnt really just meant for that matter because when it comes to KYC integration then it is most likely or would rather be talking about government regulation
which these casinos need to comply.

Is there something that they can do? No. because if they are trying out not to follow on whats been required then business would be closed and as a user of said platform then you would need to comply

but if you arent really that having some good impression with KYC then you could always have the choice on jumping to another one.

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As long as the site is trusted I think it's fine. In some activities, especially related to money, KYC activities are normal. Although I'm also aware some casinos don't ask for that. $200 is a lot, I don't save too much money on online gambling sites/casinos. The reason is to minimize the loss of my money.
Actually, from the start you have to choose a trusted site for your gambling activities. At least they are legal and recognized in a country. Because it can be one of the characteristics of an official casino site.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on July 30, 2021, 10:34:33 PM

There are platforms today that requires having a KYC for their platform because they want to make sure that most of their users are authentic also to prevent having spam on an account if the platform has their own referral system, rakeback or any kind thing that can abuse their system. Having KYC is another set of security for their system to prevent attacks. Also if you don't want having a KYC options to play you can freely change the platform you are using its your rights if you want to protect your information.

If the casino is really trying to avoid spamming accounts for the referral system or rakeback, it can disable this option for accounts that have not passed the KYC. But I have not seen that somewhere it happened this way - it means that this is not the main reason for introducing the KYC.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on July 30, 2021, 04:36:53 PM

if the casino is really trusted and the bonus is pure it's part of a promotion, not a trick to freeze our assets, that's okay to do KYC. this personal opinion

I share your opinion it goes on individual preference I'm ok with KYC, there's really a gambling site that asks for KYC to make sure that you are clean and you are not using a VPN, if they do not allow it, I can only go for KYC if the gambling site has a good reputation to speak of, they should be honest and transparent on why they ask for KYC.

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The problem of kyc is that very few companies out there are able to show capacity to hold personal data securely and privately. And because this data is on high demand someone could go ashtray to sell it to third parties for other purposes.

Now do players need KYC, maybe yes and Know, if a player is well know and nothing fishy about the playing style fine but if there is so much inconsistencies in a players play store it's only right to perform it.

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There are platforms today that requires having a KYC for their platform because they want to make sure that most of their users are authentic also to prevent having spam on an account if the platform has their own referral system, rakeback or any kind thing that can abuse their system. Having KYC is another set of security for their system to prevent attacks. Also if you don't want having a KYC options to play you can freely change the platform you are using its your rights if you want to protect your information.

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Quote from: michellee on July 30, 2021, 03:08:23 AM

I still do not want to do KYC, even if that is about $200 that I can withdrawable as you say because my identity will be more than $200 and even more. I still prefer to search for the other gambling site that does not need KYC to protect my identity. Maybe others are willing to receive that $200 or more because they really want to get a big bonus from the site but I still do not want to do that.

I only think about protecting my identity and I do not want to give it to a site that I do not use seriously.

I have the same thought as you, our personal data is far more important than the $200 bonus that a gambling site will give. But everyone's
financial needs are different, I wouldn't blame people who are willing to KYC procedures for $200. Maybe for some people $ 200 is very important
to be able to buy daily necessities, but I will not exchange my personal data for $200. Moreover, there are still many choices of gambling sites that
we can use without the need for KYC procedures, so for now I avoid gambling sites that apply KYC.

Maybe they can borrow the other people or their friends to verify themselves by sending their documents to that casino. I think that will be okay for them as the casino will not check the real identity of that person. But it will not recommend doing that as we do not know what will happen to the person who has that documents. We are playing gambling, so we only want to spend our free time, so we do not have to think too seriously, especially sending private documents to the casino.

For me it's too risky to use someone else's identity to do KYC verification. Moreover, the identity is used to play gambling and the owner of
the document does not know it. Will cause big problems later on, so it is not recommended to do that. After all, our goal in gambling is just
to get entertainment in our spare time, so there's no need to do anything risky. Since the beginning I have said there are still many gambling
sites that do not apply KYC, so we can play at these gambling sites.

If so, we do not have to do that instead, we search for the other gambling sites which do not require KYC. I am sure we can find it easily, especially since we have many recommended gambling websites that do not require KYC. I think the same as you as we only want to get entertainment from gambling, and we do not need to verify our account by sending any private document because that will not be necessary to do.

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Quote from: michellee on July 30, 2021, 07:46:14 AM

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Quote from: michellee on July 30, 2021, 03:08:23 AM

I still do not want to do KYC, even if that is about $200 that I can withdrawable as you say because my identity will be more than $200 and even more. I still prefer to search for the other gambling site that does not need KYC to protect my identity. Maybe others are willing to receive that $200 or more because they really want to get a big bonus from the site but I still do not want to do that.

I only think about protecting my identity and I do not want to give it to a site that I do not use seriously.

I have the same thought as you, our personal data is far more important than the $200 bonus that a gambling site will give. But everyone's
financial needs are different, I wouldn't blame people who are willing to KYC procedures for $200. Maybe for some people $ 200 is very important
to be able to buy daily necessities, but I will not exchange my personal data for $200. Moreover, there are still many choices of gambling sites that
we can use without the need for KYC procedures, so for now I avoid gambling sites that apply KYC.

Maybe they can borrow the other people or their friends to verify themselves by sending their documents to that casino. I think that will be okay for them as the casino will not check the real identity of that person. But it will not recommend doing that as we do not know what will happen to the person who has that documents. We are playing gambling, so we only want to spend our free time, so we do not have to think too seriously, especially sending private documents to the casino.

For me it's too risky to use someone else's identity to do KYC verification. Moreover, the identity is used to play gambling and the owner of
the document does not know it. Will cause big problems later on, so it is not recommended to do that. After all, our goal in gambling is just
to get entertainment in our spare time, so there's no need to do anything risky. Since the beginning I have said there are still many gambling
sites that do not apply KYC, so we can play at these gambling sites.

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It's not necessary, if you are not comfortable with their terms you can go elsewhere on poker sites that do not ask for KYC, and you should be careful on new poker sites that offer big bonuses I have the worse experience on this kind of new site, I register got my bonus and win but I need to deposit, I deposit only to find out that they will not allow me to withdraw my earnings when it is stipulated that they will let me withdraw my earnings coming from my bonus, so be careful on new site.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on July 30, 2021, 06:04:44 PM

Well, as long as we can avoid KYC --there was always a way to find a gambling site that does not have the required KYC.
I am before playing with Fair Poker and so far there are no KYC procedures at that time. But I don't know if that is reasonable to have a KYC verification, it should be anonymously operated since the casino knows your documents there could be a chance that you will get rub by them. My thought is --void them as much as you can a find another one, there are plenty of gambling poker casinos here that are completely anonymous which is you can choose.

There’s a lot of good gambling site that offer poker without even asking for your KYC, so why stress yourself following that requirements where you can easily avoid it. We all want to play anonymous, so if you’re into gambling site with KYC, that’s the risk you take and you should be aware of that.

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Seriously, get used to this being forced almost everywhere you shop, and as an extension gamble. Governments are requiring more, and more in depth Know Your Customer (KYC) details than ever before, and its likely going to keep getting worse. I can understand it a little bit from some perspectives, but it is most definitely a breach of privacy in a lot of instances. The government wants it because they can likely detect fraud, and tax evasion more effectively, which you can't blame them for, and I can understand from that point of view. Unfortunately, its the people who abuse these services for the above mentioned crimes, that gets genuine customers to give up their privacy as a result.

All gambling websites are likely going to need KYC still almost every country in the next few years.

Quote from: johhnyUA on July 30, 2021, 05:59:20 PM

As i said many times before: AVOID CASINOS WHICH FORCE YOU TO KYC.
At least in crypto. With no exclusions, because this is principal moment: Cryptocurrency is grey technology, so you can be robbed with easy and you don't need to help potential criminals with any type of KYC

The thing is; this is going to get harder, and harder as time goes on. Its a law enforced by the government for the casinos to legally operate in much of the cases that its implemented, and as that law becomes more strict, and more countries adopt KYC the harder it'll be to actually avoid giving up your privacy.

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Well, as long as we can avoid KYC --there was always a way to find a gambling site that does not have the required KYC.
I am before playing with Fair Poker and so far there are no KYC procedures at that time. But I don't know if that is reasonable to have a KYC verification, it should be anonymously operated since the casino knows your documents there could be a chance that you will get rub by them. My thought is --void them as much as you can a find another one, there are plenty of gambling poker casinos here that are completely anonymous which is you can choose.

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 29, 2021, 02:56:12 AM

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

As i said many times before: AVOID CASINOS WHICH FORCE YOU TO KYC.
At least in crypto. With no exclusions, because this is principal moment: Cryptocurrency is grey technology, so you can be robbed with easy and you don't need to help potential criminals with any type of KYC

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It depends on personal preferences, not everyone thinks KYC is bad. But you're right that it makes no sense: why does that casino deal with crypto and, at the same time, requires KYC from everyone? In any case, it's good that the casino was straightforward about that and it didn't came out as a total surprise when you've won a ton of money and need to withdraw (which happens A LOT).

Be careful with that $200 bonus though, read the rules carefully, it seems like too much money to just give away to every user, there might be a rollover requirement or something of the sort.

When it comes to bonuses then roll over is something in default attached to it. Grin

Crpyto casinos are still regulated but since its on the sense that it is attached with crypto then KYC is really contradictory on overall essence which is totally opposing.

It is just depending on someone if they would really be complying it out or would skip and find another place.

As there are many options these days when it comes to reputable crypto casinos that don't require KYC, if it is important for you about this requirement, then don't play on that site. Because we really don't know where our info end up with. As much as possible, limit the number of sites where you send your KYC details. And if you have other options why not? Bonuses are just attraction from potential players, but of course, there's more to it.

Majority of crypto enthusiast or lover would really be looking after on being anonymous and kyc is totally opposing with this idea which would really be a big turn off for everybody but if someone is really that

interested nor eager to play on a certain site then its his choice but be mindful on what are the risk on sharing up your personal details online.You wouldn't know on where those info would be ending up.

Is it really necessary? no its not but since these platforms are regulated then they wouldn't really have any choice but to comply or else they would be closing up their doors.

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If i found some good casino that offering games that many casino dont have like real poker then they require their player do KYC first, and im on state really want to play that type games i would do KYC, that's the rule from their side. the only strange thing is when if you find some website let you deposit any amount. and when you ask for withdraw they ask for KYC and treat your account like in trouble im also experienced these and its feels terrible.

Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 29, 2021, 02:56:12 AM

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

if the casino is really trusted and the bonus is pure it's part of a promotion, not a trick to freeze our assets, that's okay to do KYC. this personal opinion

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Personally, I prefer to remain anonymous even if I miss out on some bonuses, especially if this is a new site and I am not sure that I will use it for a long time. Although even if I use a site/casino for a long time and we are not talking about gigantic amounts of money, it is always the best option to remain anonymous.

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