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legendary
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September 07, 2020, 05:36:26 AM
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I think when playing poker it requires 99% luck and 1% skill, because it is difficult to guess the cards held by the dealer and some other players because every few rounds of cards will be replaced with new ones that have been shuffled so that it will make the calculation become chaotic and can't be used to guess correctly.

Although I think that luck plays big part in poker games, I wouldn't say it's 99%. Definitely not. Overall, it breaks down like this. The more games you play, the lesser part luck plays in the outcome. Not in the outcome of a particular game, but in the sum total outcome of all your games combined. But here's the trick: it all depends on who you are playing against. If you are skillful and your opponent is not, it can take like 20-30 games for you to beat him/her. But if your opponent is more or less on the same level as you, even when hundreds of games played, your overall performance will depend mostly on luck.
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September 07, 2020, 04:56:38 AM
Yes, I agree with you in principle.

But you also have to play at real tables to train your facial expressions!
Bluffing is a powerful tool... Wink

If you are also watching big poker plays, you can't even say what facial expression they are portraying, that is because they strive to make it so unpredictable that there's no feeling in it.

That is the best strategy that a poker player can do to win the game, but aside from time, you also need a quick mental skill to quite memorize the entire deck to increase your odds of winning.

Here are some strategies that could help you increase your chance of winning in poker matches

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hero member
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September 07, 2020, 02:08:04 AM
Well poker itself have many games inside it ; I do think most of the people here already explained you about the basics of the game.

I do think you would be benefited by card counting if you are able to keep up with the numbers ; it's a perfectly legal way to calculate the odds in your favour.

So I do think it would be helpful for you to check that out.

*_*

At the same time I saw that there are numerous videos on youtube that would help you out ; instead of words The videos and hands on experience would help you.

- play with your family members
- practice
- play against software
- more practice!!

I do think it would take a lot of time and effort because I think it's more of a experience+strategy and a lot of mind goes in this game.

( Best would be to learn from your grandpa Tongue )
legendary
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September 06, 2020, 04:56:12 PM
I think online poker is a great way to start learning poker. If you can survive online tournaments or cash games you are definitely ready to play offline games. You are right that it's a completely different setup when playing in a real casino with real people on a table. At home no one can see you, you don't give away tales, but in a casino everyone is watching you. Without a good "poker face" it's going to be hard to survive at high stakes tables. At lower stakes tables it's not so important in my opinion, better to stick to your strategy thatn trying to bluff too much.

Yes, I agree with you in principle.

But you also have to play at real tables to train your facial expressions!
Bluffing is a powerful tool... Wink
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September 06, 2020, 01:25:47 PM
Same as you OP, i'm beginner and im finding this type very hard for playing, probably im not putting too much effort into it lol.
legendary
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September 06, 2020, 08:46:10 AM
how is playing online gonna help you hide your tells at the casino? Tongue

Obviously he know nothing about playing poker in casino  Tongue . Even Daniel Negreanu has terrible time to deal with online poker on ggpoker, I saw his livestream from youtube ( probably for a week already ) and he admitted that it is hard to really play online poker. Everyone seems pro at a glance and he cant really translate how he normally play into his online experience though
I think when playing poker it requires 99% luck and 1% skill, because it is difficult to guess the cards held by the dealer and some other players because every few rounds of cards will be replaced with new ones that have been shuffled so that it will make the calculation become chaotic and can't be used to guess correctly.
I doubt it's 99% luck and 1% skill. I've been playing poker for a while now and I can't count how many times my bluffs had worked even when I have a bad card. although, I can't deny that I too have fallen to bluffs of the players.
legendary
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September 06, 2020, 08:11:26 AM
how is playing online gonna help you hide your tells at the casino? Tongue
Obviously he know nothing about playing poker in casino  Tongue . Even Daniel Negreanu has terrible time to deal with online poker on ggpoker, I saw his livestream from youtube ( probably for a week already ) and he admitted that it is hard to really play online poker. Everyone seems pro at a glance and he cant really translate how he normally play into his online experience though

did you see doug polk troll negreanu into an online heads up grudge match a few weeks ago? Cheesy

https://twitter.com/RealKidPoker/status/1288602794665025536

i was really surprised to see DN accept the challenge. indeed, online is not his game at all as he himself will acknowledge, and tbh i don't think NLHE is really his game either. it almost makes me wonder if he set things up so he could explain away losing.

i rarely pay attention to the poker scene or watch live streams these days, but this is one i intend to watch. it should be pretty interesting. polk is obviously not in top form. he's recently been getting crushed at low stakes HU tables. https://www.parttimepoker.com/doug-polk-daniel-negreanu-heads-up-challenge

I dont, a week ago I dont even know who DN is  Cheesy . He just happen to livestream on youtube and for some reason it shows up on my recommendation then I watched him play. I get to know alot more in depth stuff about poker from his livestream then I researched about him and found out that he won 6 WSOP bracelets. No wonder he is that good in his livestream but he could be so much better in real poker instead of online poker

I think when playing poker it requires 99% luck and 1% skill, because it is difficult to guess the cards held by the dealer and some other players because every few rounds of cards will be replaced with new ones that have been shuffled so that it will make the calculation become chaotic and can't be used to guess correctly.

I used to think like that before I learn more in depth about poker but relying on luck alone means you need to keep getting pocket pair then shove all in . Not to mention that each time your shove might not be called and there is no guarantee you might win those shove  Tongue
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September 05, 2020, 06:46:25 PM
how is playing online gonna help you hide your tells at the casino? Tongue

Obviously he know nothing about playing poker in casino  Tongue . Even Daniel Negreanu has terrible time to deal with online poker on ggpoker, I saw his livestream from youtube ( probably for a week already ) and he admitted that it is hard to really play online poker. Everyone seems pro at a glance and he cant really translate how he normally play into his online experience though
I think when playing poker it requires 99% luck and 1% skill, because it is difficult to guess the cards held by the dealer and some other players because every few rounds of cards will be replaced with new ones that have been shuffled so that it will make the calculation become chaotic and can't be used to guess correctly.
legendary
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September 05, 2020, 05:14:03 PM
how is playing online gonna help you hide your tells at the casino? Tongue
Obviously he know nothing about playing poker in casino  Tongue . Even Daniel Negreanu has terrible time to deal with online poker on ggpoker, I saw his livestream from youtube ( probably for a week already ) and he admitted that it is hard to really play online poker. Everyone seems pro at a glance and he cant really translate how he normally play into his online experience though

did you see doug polk troll negreanu into an online heads up grudge match a few weeks ago? Cheesy

https://twitter.com/RealKidPoker/status/1288602794665025536

i was really surprised to see DN accept the challenge. indeed, online is not his game at all as he himself will acknowledge, and tbh i don't think NLHE is really his game either. it almost makes me wonder if he set things up so he could explain away losing.

i rarely pay attention to the poker scene or watch live streams these days, but this is one i intend to watch. it should be pretty interesting. polk is obviously not in top form. he's recently been getting crushed at low stakes HU tables. https://www.parttimepoker.com/doug-polk-daniel-negreanu-heads-up-challenge
legendary
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September 05, 2020, 04:25:54 PM
how is playing online gonna help you hide your tells at the casino? Tongue

Obviously he know nothing about playing poker in casino  Tongue . Even Daniel Negreanu has terrible time to deal with online poker on ggpoker, I saw his livestream from youtube ( probably for a week already ) and he admitted that it is hard to really play online poker. Everyone seems pro at a glance and he cant really translate how he normally play into his online experience though
legendary
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September 05, 2020, 04:22:02 PM
I think online poker is a great way to start learning poker. If you can survive online tournaments or cash games you are definitely ready to play offline games. You are right that it's a completely different setup when playing in a real casino with real people on a table. At home no one can see you, you don't give away tales, but in a casino everyone is watching you.

how is playing online gonna help you hide your tells at the casino? Tongue

throw on some sunglasses, a hoodie, maybe some headphones---just imagine you're phil ivey---you'll be okay. Cheesy

live games (at least at low stakes which is relevant to 99% of people around here) are much softer than online, at least in my experience. that's also what i've heard from other players.
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September 05, 2020, 04:11:22 PM
Watch videos first of those highlights on YouTube about bluffing or interesting moments. You'll have the idea on what you should with those moments.
Playing poker isn't that hard but your decision making in the table is what makes it hard.
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September 05, 2020, 09:31:22 AM

On that statement, experienced may point you to the right position to take. Poker are more on strategy though it's different from online as you are not capable in seeing your opponents physical gestures, you are more in leaning with luck less strategy.
Only part that experienced helps is when the time for you to stop either you are winning or losing your money.


I think online poker is a great way to start learning poker. If you can survive online tournaments or cash games you are definitely ready to play offline games. You are right that it's a completely different setup when playing in a real casino with real people on a table. At home no one can see you, you don't give away tales, but in a casino everyone is watching you. Without a good "poker face" it's going to be hard to survive at high stakes tables. At lower stakes tables it's not so important in my opinion, better to stick to your strategy thatn trying to bluff too much.
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September 04, 2020, 03:32:43 PM
You should learn the basic rules first. Google it and learn. You shouldn't just jump and in and start playing with real money. This is the reason why you are losing.
Poker requires some skills, but also remember, it depends on your luck too. You should learn how to bluff and understand your opponent and make your plays.
But don't just rely on "strategies", after-all it is a game of chances, so strategies won't always help you win.
legendary
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September 04, 2020, 03:09:41 PM

As an aspiring poker player myself, I can say that it is better to overestimate luck than underestimate it. There is a dangerous trap waiting in the path of a "shark", namely, the illusion that you are  unbeatable. Some well-known poker pros lost a lot of money because of falling into this trap. Imo, it is always better to think that you were lucky in the case of winning, and to think that you were not skillful enough in the case of losing. It is a good strategy for improving your skills, and not falling into the trap I mentioned.


Luck definitely plays a big role during each individual hand you play, but on a bigger scale luck becomes not important anymore. On almost all of the poker softwares you can look at your past hands. It makes sense to keep track of your general plays. Like which hand are you playing good and make money and where are you losing money. It can happen that you lose with AA vs 27 in one hand. But across 10,000 off hands you will see AA dominate. It's all about playing for a long time to make luck not so important anymore.
Experiences do really matters on these games, the longer you play the more experiences you are gaining but don't forget that luck really plays an important role in each game. There are situations that we can both use experience and luck that will lead us to a great win. I know that feeling because I, as a player/gamer already felt that on a situational game where I should use my experiences and rely on luck. So in the end, even you already have a lot of experience and you thought you wouldn't rely on luck, we are wrong because we always rely on it on our mind and luck will be always there.

On that statement, experienced may point you to the right position to take. Poker are more on strategy though it's different from online as you are not capable in seeing your opponents physical gestures, you are more in leaning with luck less strategy.
Only part that experienced helps is when the time for you to stop either you are winning or losing your money.
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September 04, 2020, 11:05:51 AM

As an aspiring poker player myself, I can say that it is better to overestimate luck than underestimate it. There is a dangerous trap waiting in the path of a "shark", namely, the illusion that you are  unbeatable. Some well-known poker pros lost a lot of money because of falling into this trap. Imo, it is always better to think that you were lucky in the case of winning, and to think that you were not skillful enough in the case of losing. It is a good strategy for improving your skills, and not falling into the trap I mentioned.


Luck definitely plays a big role during each individual hand you play, but on a bigger scale luck becomes not important anymore. On almost all of the poker softwares you can look at your past hands. It makes sense to keep track of your general plays. Like which hand are you playing good and make money and where are you losing money. It can happen that you lose with AA vs 27 in one hand. But across 10,000 off hands you will see AA dominate. It's all about playing for a long time to make luck not so important anymore.
Experiences do really matters on these games, the longer you play the more experiences you are gaining but don't forget that luck really plays an important role in each game. There are situations that we can both use experience and luck that will lead us to a great win. I know that feeling because I, as a player/gamer already felt that on a situational game where I should use my experiences and rely on luck. So in the end, even you already have a lot of experience and you thought you wouldn't rely on luck, we are wrong because we always rely on it on our mind and luck will be always there.
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September 04, 2020, 06:39:39 AM
In that case the player  need to fix his schedule or pass that tournament to others since its not possible to play it at the same time with two different website tournament.
Proxy will do in this matter. Pretty sure that if you are a poker player you know some players that are lucky too when playing poker you can ask them to proxy for any schedules that you will not be able to meet. In this case who might knows that your proxy might be better or luckier than you.

Online gambling now is a trend so I guess that doing proxy would be fine as long there is a resources available at hand. Higher chance that the player could be denied playing as proxy.
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September 04, 2020, 04:02:11 AM
As an aspiring poker player myself, I can say that it is better to overestimate luck than underestimate it. There is a dangerous trap waiting in the path of a "shark", namely, the illusion that you are  unbeatable. Some well-known poker pros lost a lot of money because of falling into this trap. Imo, it is always better to think that you were lucky in the case of winning, and to think that you were not skillful enough in the case of losing. It is a good strategy for improving your skills, and not falling into the trap I mentioned.

that is an interesting theory. i understand the danger of becoming cocky and overconfident. it leads to poor decision making, same as going on tilt. to me that is separate from honing your skills---which is primarily about properly leveraging your equity (the chances you will win the hand, with or without a showdown) in any given situation. that's more about pure number crunching, and also having the kind of experience that aids in hand reading your opponents.

if you attribute everything to luck, i don't understand how that helps to hone those skills.

As an aspiring poker player myself, I can say that it is better to overestimate luck than underestimate it. There is a dangerous trap waiting in the path of a "shark", namely, the illusion that you are  unbeatable. Some well-known poker pros lost a lot of money because of falling into this trap. Imo, it is always better to think that you were lucky in the case of winning, and to think that you were not skillful enough in the case of losing. It is a good strategy for improving your skills, and not falling into the trap I mentioned.

that is an interesting theory. i understand the danger of becoming cocky and overconfident. it leads to poor decision making, same as going on tilt. to me that is separate from honing your skills---which is primarily about properly leveraging your equity (the chances you will win the hand, with or without a showdown) in any given situation. that's more about pure number crunching, and also having the kind of experience that aids in hand reading your opponents.

if you attribute everything to luck, i don't understand how that helps to hone those skills.

No, not everything. Everything depends on luck in dice and slot games, but, of course, poker is far from it. I've just noticed that many people underestimate the part luck plays in poker, that's all. Smiley

As I said earlier, there are thousands skillful players, and who of them wins mostly depends on luck. But there are millions unskillful poker players. Let's not forget about that. Smiley

And since poker is a game that's constantly evolving and discarding old school rules, there's no such thing as staying at the same level. If you are not improving and getting yourself better, you might find yourself among those unskillful millions, one day. Smiley
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September 04, 2020, 01:39:29 AM

As an aspiring poker player myself, I can say that it is better to overestimate luck than underestimate it. There is a dangerous trap waiting in the path of a "shark", namely, the illusion that you are  unbeatable. Some well-known poker pros lost a lot of money because of falling into this trap. Imo, it is always better to think that you were lucky in the case of winning, and to think that you were not skillful enough in the case of losing. It is a good strategy for improving your skills, and not falling into the trap I mentioned.


Luck definitely plays a big role during each individual hand you play, but on a bigger scale luck becomes not important anymore. On almost all of the poker softwares you can look at your past hands. It makes sense to keep track of your general plays. Like which hand are you playing good and make money and where are you losing money. It can happen that you lose with AA vs 27 in one hand. But across 10,000 off hands you will see AA dominate. It's all about playing for a long time to make luck not so important anymore.
legendary
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September 03, 2020, 04:54:07 PM
As an aspiring poker player myself, I can say that it is better to overestimate luck than underestimate it. There is a dangerous trap waiting in the path of a "shark", namely, the illusion that you are  unbeatable. Some well-known poker pros lost a lot of money because of falling into this trap. Imo, it is always better to think that you were lucky in the case of winning, and to think that you were not skillful enough in the case of losing. It is a good strategy for improving your skills, and not falling into the trap I mentioned.

that is an interesting theory. i understand the danger of becoming cocky and overconfident. it leads to poor decision making, same as going on tilt. to me that is separate from honing your skills---which is primarily about properly leveraging your equity (the chances you will win the hand, with or without a showdown) in any given situation. that's more about pure number crunching, and also having the kind of experience that aids in hand reading your opponents.

if you attribute everything to luck, i don't understand how that helps to hone those skills.
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