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August 27, 2020, 10:42:45 AM
#90
Well, I remember before when I was exploring my self to play poker. There is not strategy because getting a card in your hand is that an odds is what on based on luck. So, perhaps there is no strategy on it while playing poker, --it is a matter of skills when you start playing. I suggest you install a poker app offline in your cellphone and play or study what is a good handcard. Op stating on was he wrote was right.

Of course there are strategies. You even have to develop them based on the cards you get and your position in the game. Poker without strategy would not be poker. Before you start playing poker, you should first consider some simple strategies. These include good money management, otherwise you will quickly become a poor man.

Meaning you can be successful playing poker with good money management and strategy? Do you know anyone anywhere that earns consistently from poker by depending on strategy, good money management, skills, etc?
If such people exist, then I don't see much difference between them and those earning sustainably from their businesses. People should aquire the right skills before going into poker, I think.




Poker is all about having good skill sand strategy to beat opponents. If someone is really good at it and can earn very good amount form it then yes they do not have to do job or businesses because playing poker and making money itself become job for them and there would be people who are depended upon the gambling money from the winnings by playing poker and other games.

Indeed, strategies are essential playing any game. And I think that for you to come up with strategies you must have enough experience and knowledge about it. Although, If I were to decide, I'd still choose to have a job while also earning from playing poker.
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August 27, 2020, 09:47:39 AM
#89
Well, I remember before when I was exploring my self to play poker. There is not strategy because getting a card in your hand is that an odds is what on based on luck. So, perhaps there is no strategy on it while playing poker, --it is a matter of skills when you start playing. I suggest you install a poker app offline in your cellphone and play or study what is a good handcard. Op stating on was he wrote was right.

Of course there are strategies. You even have to develop them based on the cards you get and your position in the game. Poker without strategy would not be poker. Before you start playing poker, you should first consider some simple strategies. These include good money management, otherwise you will quickly become a poor man.

Meaning you can be successful playing poker with good money management and strategy? Do you know anyone anywhere that earns consistently from poker by depending on strategy, good money management, skills, etc?
If such people exist, then I don't see much difference between them and those earning sustainably from their businesses. People should aquire the right skills before going into poker, I think.




Poker is all about having good skill sand strategy to beat opponents. If someone is really good at it and can earn very good amount form it then yes they do not have to do job or businesses because playing poker and making money itself become job for them and there would be people who are depended upon the gambling money from the winnings by playing poker and other games.


There are very few people who can completely subsist on just poker.  You have to have a big enough bankroll to handle a really bad string of cards.  It happens to everyone so if you can't handle that long downturn you won't be able to get away with just playing poker.  I advise people to do it as a hobby on the side of having a full time job.
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August 27, 2020, 09:21:56 AM
#88
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if the game is good (profitable) and i'm playing well, then i stay in, period. a deeper stack in a fishy game should only make things more profitable.
This is not about me, definitely. I can never say whether the game is profitable or not.

well, did you win those pots based on skill or luck?

As a poker player, you know yourself that it's always X% and Y% of skill. I personally think that luck plays huge part in poker, maybe 60%, but, on the other hand, it's not like in slots or dice, which are 100% luck based. That's why I would call poker a skill based game, where luck still plays a big part.

or to put it more bluntly, is there a maniac at the table giving his money away? if so, you should probably stick around and take some of it.

classic quote from my favorite poker movie, rounders: "if you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you are the sucker." Tongue

Idk, man, to be honest, I can spot a bluffer pretty quickly. But "sucker"? No, I can't spot a sucker. Imo, this is what poker game is about: pretending to be a sucker and winning in the end. Smiley
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August 27, 2020, 03:51:44 AM
#87
Well, I remember before when I was exploring my self to play poker. There is not strategy because getting a card in your hand is that an odds is what on based on luck. So, perhaps there is no strategy on it while playing poker, --it is a matter of skills when you start playing. I suggest you install a poker app offline in your cellphone and play or study what is a good handcard. Op stating on was he wrote was right.

Of course there are strategies. You even have to develop them based on the cards you get and your position in the game. Poker without strategy would not be poker. Before you start playing poker, you should first consider some simple strategies. These include good money management, otherwise you will quickly become a poor man.

Meaning you can be successful playing poker with good money management and strategy? Do you know anyone anywhere that earns consistently from poker by depending on strategy, good money management, skills, etc?
If such people exist, then I don't see much difference between them and those earning sustainably from their businesses. People should aquire the right skills before going into poker, I think.


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August 26, 2020, 02:25:15 PM
#86
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if the game is good (profitable) and i'm playing well, then i stay in, period. a deeper stack in a fishy game should only make things more profitable.
This is not about me, definitely. I can never say whether the game is profitable or not.

well, did you win those pots based on skill or luck? or to put it more bluntly, is there a maniac at the table giving his money away? if so, you should probably stick around and take some of it.

classic quote from my favorite poker movie, rounders: "if you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you are the sucker." Tongue
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August 26, 2020, 03:37:26 AM
#85
Well, I remember before when I was exploring my self to play poker. There is not strategy because getting a card in your hand is that an odds is what on based on luck. So, perhaps there is no strategy on it while playing poker, --it is a matter of skills when you start playing. I suggest you install a poker app offline in your cellphone and play or study what is a good handcard. Op stating on was he wrote was right.

Of course there are strategies. You even have to develop them based on the cards you get and your position in the game. Poker without strategy would not be poker. Before you start playing poker, you should first consider some simple strategies. These include good money management, otherwise you will quickly become a poor man.
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August 26, 2020, 03:19:06 AM
#84
Being a poker fan, I would love to think that "poker is game with 80% of skill and 20 % of luck", as they say, but, actually, I agree with you. If you are a skillful poker player, you will beat an unskillful one in the long run(when hundreds, or, rather, thousands hands played), but you can never be sure of your victory in a particular game, or even in a tournament.
especially in a tournament. tournaments (especially ones with a large field) are much higher variance than cash games. that's why cash game players often hate tourneys---they take hours to finish a single one, and it takes hundreds or thousands to generate a good sample of your performance.
Idk, maybe you and I play cash games differently. I, for one, almost always quit immediately after a good win ...

lol, so you like to "hit and run"---not the best etiquette at a cash game table. Tongue


I understand, and that's why I rarely play cash games. The last time I played them was more than 2 months ago.

why do you quit? because you're afraid you'll just give the money back?

Not only afraid, but I'm almost sure I'll give the money back. Why? Because this had happened many times in the past: first I win 3x or 4x of my initial bankroll, then 15-20 minutes later I lose it all. ...

But you are right, it's not the best etiquette, and if I don't want to upset other people, I should probably stop playing cash games completely. That's why I love tournaments: they don't allow me to show my dark side - the desire to hit the jackpot and run. Smiley

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if the game is good (profitable) and i'm playing well, then i stay in, period. a deeper stack in a fishy game should only make things more profitable.

This is not about me, definitely. I can never say whether the game is profitable or not.
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August 24, 2020, 04:47:47 PM
#83
Being a poker fan, I would love to think that "poker is game with 80% of skill and 20 % of luck", as they say, but, actually, I agree with you. If you are a skillful poker player, you will beat an unskillful one in the long run(when hundreds, or, rather, thousands hands played), but you can never be sure of your victory in a particular game, or even in a tournament.
especially in a tournament. tournaments (especially ones with a large field) are much higher variance than cash games. that's why cash game players often hate tourneys---they take hours to finish a single one, and it takes hundreds or thousands to generate a good sample of your performance.
Idk, maybe you and I play cash games differently. I, for one, almost always quit immediately after a good win ...

lol, so you like to "hit and run"---not the best etiquette at a cash game table. Tongue

why do you quit? because you're afraid you'll just give the money back?

if the game is good (profitable) and i'm playing well, then i stay in, period. a deeper stack in a fishy game should only make things more profitable.
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August 24, 2020, 12:17:27 PM
#82

Idk, maybe you and I play cash games differently. I, for one, almost always quit immediately after a good win, but you can't quit a tournament when you are on the 1st place ... well, you can, technically, but you have zero chances of finishing on the 1st place then, and, depending on the number of players left, your chances of finishing ITM are slim. I think that luck plays bigger role in cash games than in tournaments, but, tbh, I rarely play cash games, so I can wrong here.


But why would you quit after a huge win immediately? Having a big bankroll on the table is great to show other players that you know how to play. Your stack definitely makes a difference in cash games in my opinion. With 1-2 cents as blinds your max stack you can sit down with on a table is 2$, but If you see someone with let's say 8$ you know already he doubled up 4x. Personally, if I face somehow who has less chips than me, I try to use my chips and bluff more often. But when the opponent has me covered I am a bit more cautious.
For tournaments, being first is already great, you definitely have the highest chances to finish in the money. Playing more tight for a while and wait for players being knocked out is what I usually do.
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August 24, 2020, 10:53:54 AM
#81
Hi there guys!

I find it hard to play poker, as of now I am always losing on that game. Grin
But of I am not using any money yet because I know I will just lose the game. Just playing online and offline... but I am really sick on it.
Can you guys tell me more about the basics of this game. How do you play the game?

And also if you could, the strategies that can be a key for winning.  

Hoping to your great responses Cheesy



Your best bet is to switch it up from time to time based on gameplay.  If the table is loose, play tight waiting for your best shot to hit the stack.  Likewise if the table is tight play a bit loose and take some cheap pots.  Key is reading your table right and playing accordingly.  Be flexible
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August 24, 2020, 10:07:54 AM
#80

Being a poker fan, I would love to think that "poker is game with 80% of skill and 20 % of luck", as they say, but, actually, I agree with you. If you are a skillful poker player, you will beat an unskillful one in the long run(when hundreds, or, rather, thousands hands played), but you can never be sure of your victory in a particular game, or even in a tournament.

especially in a tournament. tournaments (especially ones with a large field) are much higher variance than cash games. that's why cash game players often hate tourneys---they take hours to finish a single one, and it takes hundreds or thousands to generate a good sample of your performance.
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Idk, maybe you and I play cash games differently. I, for one, almost always quit immediately after a good win, but you can't quit a tournament when you are on the 1st place ... well, you can, technically, but you have zero chances of finishing on the 1st place then, and, depending on the number of players left, your chances of finishing ITM are slim. I think that luck plays bigger role in cash games than in tournaments, but, tbh, I rarely play cash games, so I can wrong here.


even after 3 bitcointalk series, i don't think we have the greatest idea of who the best players are yet. variance is a bitch, and it takes a big sample to even out.

I absolutely agree with this. Maybe after a thousand of tournaments we would have an idea, but 24(3X8) is way too little for that.
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August 23, 2020, 04:56:52 PM
#79
Well, I remember before when I was exploring my self to play poker. There is not strategy because getting a card in your hand is that an odds is what on based on luck. So, perhaps there is no strategy on it while playing poker, --it is a matter of skills when you start playing. I suggest you install a poker app offline in your cellphone and play or study what is a good handcard. Op stating on was he wrote was right.
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August 23, 2020, 03:31:32 PM
#78
Things like this can be done fairly easily with headphones or earplugs. You can also wear a hood and sunglasses to reduce your vision. But these are secondary factors.
If you have a problem with your strategy itself, no squelch will help you out of your situation.

At the moment I would recommend focusing on online poker rather than physical games. We don't know how long this pandemic will really last and if it's going to be around next year. Better to focus on poker that you can play from home.

At the moment there are the 2020 World Series Of Poker Online tournaments where you can see the best players compete against each other. If you want to improve your game I would recommend either watch the official stream (https://www.wsop.com/live/) or one of the pro's stream. Watching the best of the world play can be a good learning experience.


Yes, it's probably best to concentrate on online poker streaks right now. By the way, one of these series is currently taking place at party poker.

$100M+ GTD series prize pool

https://www.partypoker.com/en/wpt-world-online-championship
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August 23, 2020, 03:18:09 PM
#77
some of the best players are quite loose aggressive (LAG) and are not picky in their hand selection. they can succeed this way because they know how to leverage their table position, and because they are good at reading their opponents---sensing when they can bluff them off a hand.
Reading opponents in online poker is fairly hard in my opinion. If you play Zoom, the old rush fast paced mode from fulltilt or have 4-6 tables of the same time. The reaction time has to be very quick. Writing notes on other players definitely helps in a though decision. But overall you should really stick to a fixed strategy to just make it simpler for yourself.

zoom/rush is a really specific type of game. rush SNGs used to be my bread and butter in the pre-UIGEA days, so i absolutely know what you mean. and in that context, i agree to some extent. normal tourneys or cash games play quite a bit differently, and you can spend many, many orbits playing the same players, so it really pays off to observe your opponents---note preflop play %, whether they chase/bet draws, show down bluffs, etc.

even in zoom/rush, hand reading is still relevant. you still need to determine your opponents' ranges on each hand and act accordingly. a lot of players are playing an ABC game and will play hands like top pair and flush draws in typical, readable ways.

What you also see pros doing on TV is making "bad moves" - like playing to aggressive - because they know everyone can see their starting hands on TV and they want to remain unpredictable for their opponents. If you only play online with a lot of different people - I wouldn't recommend such plays for beginners.

it's not just about the TV factor. it's also because at higher stakes and skill levels, one needs to remain unpredictable. if you play a very ABC game, good players will recognize it and bluff you off key spots.

i agree---not necessarily for beginners, but neither are higher stakes.
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August 23, 2020, 11:23:57 AM
#76

some of the best players are quite loose aggressive (LAG) and are not picky in their hand selection. they can succeed this way because they know how to leverage their table position, and because they are good at reading their opponents---sensing when they can bluff them off a hand.


Reading opponents in online poker is fairly hard in my opinion. If you play Zoom, the old rush fast paced mode from fulltilt or have 4-6 tables of the same time. The reaction time has to be very quick. Writing notes on other players definitely helps in a though decision. But overall you should really stick to a fixed strategy to just make it simpler for yourself. Once you move up in the tables the number of players will be less and you see more of the time the same players. What you also see pros doing on TV is making "bad moves" - like playing to aggressive - because they know everyone can see their starting hands on TV and they want to remain unpredictable for their opponents. If you only play online with a lot of different people - I wouldn't recommend such plays for beginners.
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August 22, 2020, 04:17:10 PM
#75
In playing poker you need to focus, you should wait for your good hands.

some of the best players are quite loose aggressive (LAG) and are not picky in their hand selection. they can succeed this way because they know how to leverage their table position, and because they are good at reading their opponents---sensing when they can bluff them off a hand.

Being a poker fan, I would love to think that "poker is game with 80% of skill and 20 % of luck", as they say, but, actually, I agree with you. If you are a skillful poker player, you will beat an unskillful one in the long run(when hundreds, or, rather, thousands hands played), but you can never be sure of your victory in a particular game, or even in a tournament.

especially in a tournament. tournaments (especially ones with a large field) are much higher variance than cash games. that's why cash game players often hate tourneys---they take hours to finish a single one, and it takes hundreds or thousands to generate a good sample of your performance.

even after 3 bitcointalk series, i don't think we have the greatest idea of who the best players are yet. variance is a bitch, and it takes a big sample to even out.
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August 22, 2020, 12:06:21 PM
#74
I've been a poker player for almost 3 years already and I've been playing almost everyday. So here are the best experience that I learned in playing poker.
Be patient, don't play if you are in anger, read the movement of your enemy and lastly don't be greedy. It's better to lost 1/4 of your tokens rather than losing it all
so you should always put it in your mind.

Indeed. Most losses on poker games are because lack of composure and good mentality on the game.
There's lot of good players on pokers that we a player might encounter. Patience and good composure will be one of the key to win poker.. Don't belittle the opponents and don't feel tiny from them. Calm, enjoy the game , and win or learn.
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August 22, 2020, 04:45:34 AM
#73
In playing poker you need to focus, you should wait for your good hands. Strategies is somewhat 40% in poker and 60% will be compose of luck.
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Being a poker fan, I would love to think that "poker is game with 80% of skill and 20 % of luck", as they say, but, actually, I agree with you. If you are a skillful poker player, you will beat an unskillful one in the long run(when hundreds, or, rather, thousands hands played), but you can never be sure of your victory in a particular game, or even in a tournament.
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August 22, 2020, 03:59:45 AM
#72
Things like this can be done fairly easily with headphones or earplugs. You can also wear a hood and sunglasses to reduce your vision. But these are secondary factors.
If you have a problem with your strategy itself, no squelch will help you out of your situation.

At the moment I would recommend focusing on online poker rather than physical games. We don't know how long this pandemic will really last and if it's going to be around next year. Better to focus on poker that you can play from home.

At the moment there are the 2020 World Series Of Poker Online tournaments where you can see the best players compete against each other. If you want to improve your game I would recommend either watch the official stream (https://www.wsop.com/live/) or one of the pro's stream. Watching the best of the world play can be a good learning experience.
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August 21, 2020, 05:53:56 PM
#71
I've been a poker player for almost 3 years already and I've been playing almost everyday. So here are the best experience that I learned in playing poker.
Be patient, don't play if you are in anger, read the movement of your enemy and lastly don't be greedy. It's better to lost 1/4 of your tokens rather than losing it all
so you should always put it in your mind.

Too obvious advises from a man who played everyday for 3 years, don't you think the same, eh?  Smiley

I have a better one: "If you don't see fish on table, that means that fish is you" (c) Fargo  Cheesy

And god damn, this is true due to my experience
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