Polish-registered recyclix.com is a Ponzi scheme and provably so. - page 24.

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Indeed, as a reminder, let's just point out what their announcement actually states:

Quote from: recyclix.com/news/open-days-in-polland-summer-update

We have signed an important long-term contract with the Dutch department of McDonalds for collecting of plastic packaging and its further recycling at our plants.

"...with the Dutch department of McDonalds" explicitly asserts the agreement is with McDonald's the corporation, indeed the 'Dutch department' of said corporation. It does NOT suggest that what they actually mean is an independent McDondalds restaurant, as they have attempted to claim when presented with evidence of McDonalds denying any such agreement or collaboration with Recyclix exists.

Besides, as I already mentioned, I know how strictly major brands control their public image and they sure as hell would never allow even one restaurant to sign up to a company as evidently and publicly shady as this one.

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since this is totally a legit business and all, why not specify which restaurants? Grin

or do we need to call each and everyone to confirm this bs? only about 250 calls to make..

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Quote from: ReaLm85 on July 29, 2016, 03:58:58 PM

Quote from: cryptodevil on July 29, 2016, 12:20:32 PM

Quote from: ReaLm85 on July 28, 2016, 03:42:23 AM

Think more

Don't worry, shill, I did.

McDonald's European Press Office http://www.mcdpressoffice.eu/ kindly answered my query about this claim by Recyclix.

Well, what a surprise that is! The ponzi scam that is Recyclix, contrary to their grandiose claims, is not working with one of the largest global brands on the planet.

Liars lie, who knew?!

Answer:

LOL! Sure, because McDonalds as a globally-recognised major brand wouldn't have a problem with a franchisee signing up a known ponzi scheme operator or, let's be honest here, even a suspected ponzi scheme operator.

So you see the problem right there, yes?

I've asked the rep who replied to me whether the response given by Recyclix could be true but having some knowledge of how these type of major brands demand extreme levels of compliance with corporate regulations and brand protection, I doubt very much if an 'independent' outlet would be permitted to sign up to a service being supplied by a company embroiled in this much controversy and one easily verified as being highly-suspect through a simple google search.

In that regards, I'm going with my original thought on the matter:

Quote from: cryptodevil on July 28, 2016, 03:09:18 AM

First thought is that this is one last push for new deposits before they initiate their exit plan.

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Quote from: cryptodevil on July 29, 2016, 12:20:32 PM

Quote from: ReaLm85 on July 28, 2016, 03:42:23 AM

Think more

Don't worry, shill, I did.

McDonald's European Press Office http://www.mcdpressoffice.eu/ kindly answered my query about this claim by Recyclix.

Well, what a surprise that is! The ponzi scam that is Recyclix, contrary to their grandiose claims, is not working with one of the largest global brands on the planet.

Liars lie, who knew?!

Answer:

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Quote from: ReaLm85 on July 28, 2016, 03:42:23 AM

Think more

Don't worry, shill, I did.

McDonald's European Press Office http://www.mcdpressoffice.eu/ kindly answered my query about this claim by Recyclix.

Well, what a surprise that is! The ponzi scam that is Recyclix, contrary to their grandiose claims, is not working with one of the largest global brands on the planet.

Liars lie, who knew?!

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Quote from: cryptodevil on July 28, 2016, 03:09:18 AM

Quote from: optimus608 on July 27, 2016, 04:30:38 PM

I found this on their news page:
"We have signed an important long-term contract with the Dutch department of McDonalds for collecting of plastic packaging and its further recycling at our plants."
Can this be verified? And if this is true, what does it mean? That McDonalds didn't check them out before signing the contract? What's the explanation? Huh

First thought is that this is one last push for new deposits before they initiate their exit plan.

But I've reached out to Mickey D's for comment on this claim in any event.

Think more

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Quote from: optimus608 on July 27, 2016, 04:30:38 PM

I found this on their news page:
"We have signed an important long-term contract with the Dutch department of McDonalds for collecting of plastic packaging and its further recycling at our plants."
Can this be verified? And if this is true, what does it mean? That McDonalds didn't check them out before signing the contract? What's the explanation? Huh

First thought is that this is one last push for new deposits before they initiate their exit plan.

But I've reached out to Mickey D's for comment on this claim in any event.

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I found this on their news page:
"We have signed an important long-term contract with the Dutch department of McDonalds for collecting of plastic packaging and its further recycling at our plants."
Can this be verified? And if this is true, what does it mean? That McDonalds didn't check them out before signing the contract? What's the explanation? Huh

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Quote from: ReaLm85 on July 22, 2016, 05:44:47 AM

what's my point? my point to talk about recyclix. nothing more. I dont understand why you reported me?

Reported you? I didn't report you I flagged you with negative trust for being the obvious shill for Recyclix that you are. Your entire post history is an apologia for Recyclix.

You're not here to consider the facts, you're here to try and pretend like they aren't the scam that they absolutely are.

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what's my point? my point to talk about recyclix. nothing more. I dont understand why you reported me?

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Quote from: ReaLm85 on July 22, 2016, 05:11:26 AM

lol they still not clean inactive accounts Grin

What's your point? The urgency for them wasn't in removing inactive accounts it was in pushing for people to make deposits.

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lol they still not clean inactive accounts Grin

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Quote from: Decis97 on July 20, 2016, 05:52:55 AM

Like I said, I didn't put anything in it (30€ to be exact). But I refuse to waste time with people like you that's all. I will make my own investigations, ask questions and decide by myself. If you want my feedback I'll make it even if I found it's a ponzi. I'm not here to loose money, I love making a lot of it.

I hope you understand I can't take an opinion of a single personn I don't know over the internet.

I want to know when you finish your investigation, can you film with phone some factories in Poland? I would like to see it. But i cant drive a car so its hard to me. I hope you share your investigation facts with us

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Quote from: Decis97 on July 20, 2016, 05:52:55 AM

I hope you understand I can't take an opinion of a single personn I don't know over the internet.

Ha! The irony is lost on you, clearly.

The fact is I'm not offering my opinion, I'm presenting facts supported by objective evidence which you can check yourself. You, on other hand, are an obvious 'just asking innocent questions' stooge for Recyclix. Your attempt to excuse the obviousness of the ponzi, while maintaining that you are merely doing some research before investing, is nothing but a weak attempt to mask the point that you are here to try and reduce the amount of harm being done to this scam by the fact this thread is the first anti-Recyclix hit on Google when searching 'Recyclix' ( https://www.google.com/search?q=recyclix ) and likely to be quite the fucking thorn in the side of these criminals.

Seriously, did you think I wouldn't spot just how utterly absurd your "rent APR" equivalence comparison was?

Fail.

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Like I said, I didn't put anything in it (30€ to be exact). But I refuse to waste time with people like you that's all. I will make my own investigations, ask questions and decide by myself. If you want my feedback I'll make it even if I found it's a ponzi. I'm not here to loose money, I love making a lot of it.

I hope you understand I can't take an opinion of a single personn I don't know over the internet.

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Quote from: Decis97 on July 20, 2016, 05:42:26 AM

Ouah, ok. Can't simply talk with aggrerssive like you, see ya

Translation: "I'm just another sock-puppet shill for Recyclix and I can't counter the facts you've raised about it being an obvious scam".

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Ouah, ok. Can't simply talk with aggrerssive like you, see ya

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Quote from: Decis97 on July 20, 2016, 05:20:57 AM

Anyway, the real question for me is,is there a limit in the number of investors, you can't pay averyone if you don't limit it.

I think i'am going to poland and check it out, and ask for numbers, numbers never lies.

Yeah you're starting to sound a little too much like the Recyclix fanboi 'ReaLm85', gearing up to make a post about how they are going to supposedly limit the amount of 'investors' so quicksendyourmoneynowbeforeitistoolate!!1!!1!1!!!

The real giveaway that you are just another fucking shill account is this:

Quote from: Decis97 on July 20, 2016, 05:20:57 AM

This point is inacurate, if you calculate, for 10k investment the ROI il about 84% a year, I make more with my renting flat.

Utter bollocks. Throwing out that you make more money renting your flat than an 84% APR is fucking meaningless, it relates to nothing and smacks of a desperate attempt to downplay the stupidly high Recyclix figures.

84% on what, exactly? Your rent claim is twaddle.

Anyway, your calculations are for shit, even Recyclix themselves cite significantly higher APR returns than 84%:

https://hellinger.eu/en/blog/recyclix-com-scam-ponzi-or-pyramid-system/

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Overall:
40,000€ turns out as 60,000€ of goods within 30 days (it’s actually faster but let’s use 30 days as the maximum term needed) and the online plan is 5 weeks

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Quote from: cryptodevil on July 20, 2016, 05:06:29 AM

Quote from: cryptodevil on July 20, 2015, 02:32:35 AM

http://affiliateunguru.com/recyclix-review-genuine-opportunity-or-well-planned-scam

They provide unusually high passive ROI’s as you progress through the system to the tune of 150% ROI in a 5 week period. That’s not just high, it is downright laughable. For this to be even remotely possible, they’d have to be operating an insanely profitable business.

This point is inacurate, if you calculate, for 10k investment the ROI il about 84% a year, I make more with my renting flat.

Anyway, the real question for me is,is there a limit in the number of investors, you can't pay averyone if you don't limit it.

I think i'am going to poland and check it out, and ask for numbers, numbers never lies.

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Quote from: cryptodevil on July 20, 2015, 02:32:35 AM

http://affiliateunguru.com/recyclix-review-genuine-opportunity-or-well-planned-scam

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In fact the only proof that I have found ANYWHERE shows the opposite, this is a giant load of BS. Elaborate, yes, but when con artists stand to make millions of dollars out of a scheme like this it is well worth organising a few tours with a couple of local factories and planning things out to a level that will fool the majority for the longest period of time possible.

But Tim, they’ve been part of some trade shows and have offices and all that stuff!

None of this is proof and is simply an opportunity to legitimise an otherwise unbelievable scam. If they didn’t go to these lengths, no one would believe them. Think about it carefully. Buying a stand at a trade show means zero, renting an office means zero, walking people around a random factory means zero.

Even if by some miracle they did have a recycling operation, it would clearly be a front for a ponzi to support such high ROI’s.
Unusually High Returns

They provide unusually high passive ROI’s as you progress through the system to the tune of 150% ROI in a 5 week period. That’s not just high, it is downright laughable. For this to be even remotely possible, they’d have to be operating an insanely profitable business.

Let’s take a look at the real state of the recycling industry. According to an article written by the Wall Street Journal the CEO of Waste Management INC had this to say:

“Recycling is in a crisis, and isn’t profitable for us, and we have to react to that by shutting down plants.”

The article goes on to report:

Market values of used plastics have fallen sharply, a decline some in the industry have attributed to lower crude oil prices, which have pushed down the cost of producing new plastic and left manufacturers less keen to work with recycled material.

You, like most people, are getting fixated on whether they have a recycling operation. Whether they do or not is irrelevant. Bernie Madoff had a legitimate investment company, but he was running it predominantly as a ponzi.

The profits they would have to be making to not only provide the returns they claim to offer their 'investors' but ensure they remain profitable themselves would make them the most successful company in Poland. Not just in recycling, I mean out of every single company in Poland.

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