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We should just follow scientific
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Well yeh that would mean isolating the virus to proof it exist from scientic standpoint. As this has not happend it exist only on lying news.

Another one, disregarding all the links given just to say that the isolation doesn't exist.

And add the, all of those are just lies.
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The point is that we don't know what the long term effects of vaccination are. It will take a ferw years to discover if the escaped spike proteins from the vaccines that attack to various organs will affect their function. Their is concern about their permanent presence in women's ovaries for example. It is also clear that vaccination doesn't provide full protection, and that it impairs the operation of the adaptive immune system. On balance, I still believe that a normal healthy person will get better protection, and have fewer side effects by relying on the system created by mother nature. It has helped us survive for thousands of years.

The panic of the governments to get everybody vaccinated is also making me believe that there is an underlying political issue that is not related to health. Vaccines are designed to prevent disese, and not to cure it. Giving a vaccine to an infected person just creates variants, and escalates our war with pathogens. Just look at what is happening through the misuse of antibiotics.

Also. I wonder what was discovered during the decades of testing mRNA vaccines, and why they are suddenly being deployed without any successful long term test results.
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People seemed all too willing in my opinion to give up their freedoms based on their government's wishes surrounding this Covid flu.

It's not as simple as people who do anything the government wants, and people who don't.
Obviously this varies from country to country... but I don't trust my government at all, I think they are incompetent and entirely self-serving, with zero concern for the welfare of the population... they are interested solely in enriching themselves and their friends, and couldn't care less what happens to ordinary people.
But I've been vaccinated, and I still wear a mask in public, even though the government has said that we don't need to wear them.

I don't follow the government, and I don't believe they have my best interests at heart. But I have a scientific background, and I follow the data. I started taking precautions and switched to working from home as soon as I saw that this thing would start to roll in from Italy and Spain. And I'll continue making decisions based on the facts, rather than any government propaganda. Those grasping fools don't understand how exponential progression works, and they wouldn't care even if they did... they're happy to let people die so long as their own economic interests don't take too much of a hit.

there is still hope for you then  Cheesy

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People seemed all too willing in my opinion to give up their freedoms based on their government's wishes surrounding this Covid flu.

It's not as simple as people who do anything the government wants, and people who don't.
Obviously this varies from country to country... but I don't trust my government at all, I think they are incompetent and entirely self-serving, with zero concern for the welfare of the population... they are interested solely in enriching themselves and their friends, and couldn't care less what happens to ordinary people.
But I've been vaccinated, and I still wear a mask in public, even though the government has said that we don't need to wear them.

I don't follow the government, and I don't believe they have my best interests at heart. But I have a scientific background, and I follow the data. I started taking precautions and switched to working from home as soon as I saw that this thing would start to roll in from Italy and Spain. And I'll continue making decisions based on the facts, rather than any government propaganda. Those grasping fools don't understand how exponential progression works, and they wouldn't care even if they did... they're happy to let people die so long as their own economic interests don't take too much of a hit.
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People seemed all too willing in my opinion to give up their freedoms based on their government's wishes surrounding this Covid flu.  At what point would you as a citizen decide enough is enough and you are not willing to comply with their guidance any longer?  Maybe you were ok with masks, willing to get a shot, think others should before going outside, don't mind a 'jab' every 6 months, but don't think people should be jailed for not doing so...  I'd like to see the results of where you as a citizen would draw the line, and feel free to post comments about what you would do once that line is crossed by your government.

all Covid measures are useless and pointless and a waste of ressources and Money.
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I am at my breaking point. They won't fucking put a thing in my nose, they won't fucking make me have their fucking Certificated of Vaccination ID (covidpass)... and if they think they will touch me with their mrna experimental injections... I am at the point of prefering to die fighting them and I mean the real power behind this, than surrendering or crawling in the wildnerness...

When we're talking about vaccine, what do you think will happen to you if you get vaccinated? out of curiosity.

You probably should specify whether the so-called 'vaccine' you talk about is one of the mRNA varieties (Pfizer, Moderna), DNA (Astra, J&J, etc) or old school direct antigen (Sino-vac/pharm).

Also you should probably specify both the time and the region.  It's getting more clear that, generally, the 6-million-ish (!) fully vaccinated in Israel via a single-source  high-unit-cost production run through Pfizer isn't having very many adverse reactions compared to what is happening to other populations.  Specifically they didn't notice the heart inflammation issues to the degree that others have.  Then it also seems to be having zero effect on SARS-cov-2 virus infection rates either.  The hypothesis suggested is that it's a different substance being injected in Israel than what is given to the average person in many of 'the nations'.  This is simply a (possible) illustration of different regions getting different injections.  AstraZeneca destined for injection into Indian people's arms is labeled as not for injection in Europe so I've heard people say.

As for time, it seems that observations of adverse reactions to the jab have subtly shifted with time.  It looks a lot to me as though there is a feedback loop between observed effects and composition of the jab.  Nobody ever said that this was not happening.  There remains no independent and transparent analysis of the production runs, and they continue to be shipped with blank inserts where ingredients and other information about an approved injection are to be found.

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When we're talking about vaccine, what do you think will happen to you if you get vaccinated? out of curiosity.

I think you’ll be setting the stage for getting vaccinated every 6 months for the rest of your life while simultaneously weakening the human race’s natural immunity response to threats making us as a species less likely to survive coming threats while becoming increasingly dependent on government to keep us alive.
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We should just follow scientific
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Well yeh that would mean isolating the virus to proof it exist from scientic standpoint. As this has not happend it exist only on lying news.
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I am at my breaking point. They won't fucking put a thing in my nose, they won't fucking make me have their fucking Certificated of Vaccination ID (covidpass)... and if they think they will touch me with their mrna experimental injections... I am at the point of prefering to die fighting them and I mean the real power behind this, than surrendering or crawling in the wildnerness...

When we're talking about vaccine, what do you think will happen to you if you get vaccinated? out of curiosity.
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We should just follow scientific advices and especially help less developed countries to fight covid by improving medical supply.

Meanwhile, distributing more money to everyone who is affected by covid should be standard procedure. Badly, Republicans are blocking it.

People not willing to be vaccinated should not receive any government money anymore.
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I am at my breaking point. They won't fucking put a thing in my nose, they won't fucking make me have their fucking Certificated of Vaccination ID (covidpass)... and if they think they will touch me with their mrna experimental injections... I am at the point of prefering to die fighting them and I mean the real power behind this, than surrendering or crawling in the wildnerness...
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American pediatric association now recommends children, toddlers, above the age of 2 to begin masking up in school. There are something like 300 known cases in the entire US of those under 18 catching Covid and dying from it....there are 74 million minors in the US, so about 0.0004054054 percent of children have died from Covid. Child has a better chance of dying from literally anything else and yet they are masking up toddlers? Purely political, as with most things.
It is more likely that a child will commit suicide while complying with covid restrictions (due to the covid restrictions) than for a child to die from covid.

So how to best ensure that everyone with symptoms wears a mask?

A) Make everyone wear masks. Simple. And despite the vociferous objections from certain quarters, there is almost zero inconvenience. It's the obvious answer.
Should people who don't get periods still wear tampons? Should I wear a band-aid if I am not bleeding? Should I wear a seatbelt in my car if I am talking on the phone while parked in a parking lot?

That is why all measures need to be taken by everyone. 
It is not necessary to have 100% compliance for preventative measures to be effective. IMO, attempts to get 100% compliance with things such as mask-wearing likely actually reduced compliance as some people likely did not wear a mask as a principal of not allowing unelected bureaucrats to tell them what to do. 
You are only vaccinated against some variants.  We don't know what variants are out there.
The vaccines have shown to be effective in preventing hospitalizations and death against the delta variant. Those who are vaccinated tend to have a case that is similar to a mild flu case. I don't think it is reasonable to take serious preventative measures to stop cases of a mild flu.

Yeah imagine if someone would be capable of changing their opinion based on new factspolitical pressure, such as a new strain of a virusleft wing politicians not wanting to give up power.
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Since when is lying a good public health strategy? Be clear, be honest.
Unfortunately public health officials have lost nearly all credibility. When you admit to lying to the public about recommendations and thresholds, and when you shout down anyone who dissents or even questions your opinions, people are not going to trust you. Public health officials have repeatedly refused to explain the rationale behind their opinions, and uses the claim that they are "experts" to demand people listen to them.
This is the Trump effect in action, where politicians will do a complete 180 given his position
Unfortunately, the left was willing to reduce confidence in the vaccine in order to harm Trump politically, and Biden is unwilling to put Trump in a position to be able to influence people into getting the vaccine, which would help Trump politically. Instead, Biden chooses to insult all the mothers (and everyone else) who have not gotten the vaccine yet. Those on the left were practically cheering when studies came out showing that hydroxy was not effective in treating covid.
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The media just was really successful in scaring everyone with all those statistics and all this news, I think this was the reason so many people gave away their freedom. But people are getting tired of all this restrictions. And you can see no government has the balls to make vaccination mandatory for everybody because no one will comply with that. Grin
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People (like me) who predicted, before the gene therapy injections were even being used, that there would be 'new strains' and these would be used to justify the endless boosters, there is not much to change one's over.

Everyone knew that there would be new variants. At least everyone who understands how evolution works. If there is a global pandemic, how much virus replication is happening? It would be impossible for zero mutations to occur in such a vast population.

It's also self-evident that because the vaccines were created to combat the initial strain, some new variants would arise that required new vaccines. Your post doesn't need the inverted commas around 'new strains'. Nor does it need the phrase 'gene therapy'.


Nope.  Mere months ago it was a 'crazy conspiracy theory' by us 'anti-vaxxer nutcases' that they were setting up to have continuous boosters as a fallout of this plandemic which is based on the common cold.

They are relying on the relatively new phenomenon that people have less memory than an average goldfish these days.  It's a fair bet that the ever increasing 'childhood vaccination schedule' is in significant part responsible for this phenomenon, though other devices are certainly a factor as well.

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People (like me) who predicted, before the gene therapy injections were even being used, that there would be 'new strains' and these would be used to justify the endless boosters, there is not much to change one's over.

Everyone knew that there would be new variants. At least everyone who understands how evolution works. If there is a global pandemic, how much virus replication is happening? It would be impossible for zero mutations to occur in such a vast population.

It's also self-evident that because the vaccines were created to combat the initial strain, some new variants would arise that required new vaccines. Your post doesn't need the inverted commas around 'new strains'. Nor does it need the phrase 'gene therapy'.
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At what point will you stop complying with Covid restrictions
When the second tower comes down
https://youtu.be/N_dcB47y2ts

Excellent example of almost perfect demolition!

Although they used a lot of standard industry techniques as well, it is not common to use nanothermite for pulverization the way the did on the tall towers.  Certainly not at that time several decades ago.  The substance was in widespread use in underground fracking though so I've read.

Building 7, on the other hand, was pretty much classic, and pretty well executed by most industry analyst's judgements.

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I personally believe that coronavirus is not just some sort of conspiracy and is indeed affecting our lives as of today. I can only comply with wearing masks when I'm in indoor places that have a quite certain huge amount of people inside such as malls and etc.

I may consider getting vaccinated but not on my priority list. Note that my reason for just "trying" to consider vaccination is not because I am anti-vaxxer but because I don't like how the government in my country handles the said program. Everyone is rushing out to be vaccinated not because they are more likely to be afraid of getting ill but because they will no longer be allowed to purchase goods in the groceries if they don't have the card. That is too much for me, and sadly for a thousand people being in the vaccination area, only a few hundred are catered to every single day.
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People (like me) who predicted, before the gene therapy injections were even being used, that there would be 'new strains' and these would be used to justify the endless boosters, there is not much to change one's over.

Indeed.  Once you see the money grab taking place, you can't help but feel sorry for the young people who own no property and are being groomed for a lifetime of bi-annual booster shots to enrich pharmaceutical companies while justifying universal insurance coverage and universal incomes.  Meanwhile they're digging an inflation grave for themselves to pay for this that is certain to land them as renters and wage earners for their entire lives with very little chance to ever reach financial freedom as ever expanding regulations and taxes make starting an extremely profitable business impossible.  There's nothing new here...  The rich get richer, the peasants lose freedoms. 
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At what point will you stop complying with Covid restrictions
When the second tower comes down
https://youtu.be/N_dcB47y2ts

Excellent example of almost perfect demolition!     Cool
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Yeah that's not the issue, the issue the CDC is flipping on is whether vaccinated individuals should mask up.

Yeah imagine if someone would be capable of changing their opinion based on new facts, such as a new strain of a virus. Totally unacceptable.

I would be less critical if they were honest about what they were doing, but the pandemic is over. If you chose not to get vaccinated and you need it, that's just natural selection.

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1420072976075079688

They aren't actually changing the guidelines on any new facts, if they were, they would cite what the facts were. They're putting a band aid over the delta variant because of break through cases. But, all available data as of now suggests that those who test positive for Covid after a vaccine have a more mild infection than they would had they not gotten vaccinated. And the chance of death following a break through case is incredibly small. So perhaps the angle is protecting those that are unvaccinated, but if they're just worthless hillbillies, who cares?
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