Topic: [ POLL ] IBF Heavyweight Title Fight: Joshua vs Dubois 21st September 2024 - page 2. (Read 1103 times)

Mike

Btw, Ben Davison was a coach of AJ and Tyson Fury. Think that would play some role in their potential next fight? Both btw are low on morale when (or if) they meet. AJ that comes after a loss and a loss by KO, Fury would feel down after loosing to Usyk for a second time. Has anyone noticed how slim or better say did not look as heavyweight Usyk looked on this event? Either its his baggy clothes, or he has really dropped some weight.


Somewhere I saw numbers, that 90k tickets were sold, and they made extra 6k tickets for this event. Almost 100k tickets sold + PPVs, someone has earned good money on that fight.

I am quite certain that this agreement between them will happen because Mike Tyson Fury will also lose again against Usyk heheheheheheh. The winner of this will be given another chance to fight in an eliminator against another ranked boxer. However, similar to much of the fans, I was also very shocked. I thought Ben Davison would help him to another challenge against Usyk.

Also, it appears this is the real reason Tyson Fury was very sad to witness the loss of Joshua.



Following Joshua's knockout, Fury was spotted at ringside, visibly upset and reportedly shouting about the money he will now lose.

"That cost me $150 million," Fury exclaimed.

Source https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/09/22/66f07a09268e3e6d498b456f.html

Fury did seem shocked and felt bad for Joshua after Dubois beat him but there was no official announcement between Fury vs Joshua. If that fight ever went ahead it would still be a sell-out at most stadiums. The fact is boxing fans are now moving away from that era and looking forward to the next generation but people will probably still want to see it even though both are past their prime.

AJ is well liked in the UK, probably much more than any other boxer including Tyson Fury. Many people we're even booing Dubois during his ringwalk, but I'm sure he's gained a lot of fans now.




I think he'd jump at the chance. It's still his biggest fight right now, aside from maybe an Usyk rematch but I think even rematching AJ would be bigger. Dubois will have to wait for the outcome of the Fury/Usyk rematch in December anyway.


I dunno. That's what people said about the Ruiz rematch. AJ just got clattered early on and his legs never recovered from the first round so he was fighting to stay on his feet throughout. AJ even hurt Dubois and went in for the kill but walked right on to a counter from Dubois which sent him to sleep.


Calm down. Boxing fans are fickle. One loss and people clamour for retirement. People said the same thing about Dubois after he took a knee in the Usyk and Joyce fights. He'll be back and the Tyson fight is still the biggest in boxing even though they're both coming off losses.

Hey, but wasnt Fury planning to fight AJ on Wembley after a rematch against Usyk? Wasnt there a temporary agreement between them for a fight? Btw, have you noticed how little sad Fury looked. Probably he wanted AJ to win (because his name is more popular, he is more media person than Dubois today), so he would fight against a winner. But right now, his potential fight against AJ looks "weaker" in viewers eyes.

If Joshua officially makes a rematch request and Dubois refuses, he would probably have to either surrender his IBF to make it vacant again in order to fight the winner of the Fury vs Usyk rematch or he will probably have to pay Joshua to stand aside. I believe Dubois is absolutely certain Joshua will not request the rematch but if he did, Dubois must be confident he will destroy him again.

If things play out in the best case scenario, Joshua will not ask for the rematch and wait to see if he can get a fight with the loser of the Fury vs Usyk rematch. At the same time, Dubois will fight the winner of the Fury vs Usyk rematch for a stunning heavyweight unification fight.

Personally, I think because of their age, it does not matter who he fights (Fury or Usyk), Dubois is going to be the next undisputed heavyweight champion in 2025 by virtue of holding all the heavyweight belts.

Isnt every boxing fighting contract has a clause of a rematch? Seems so, as as soon as someone from top fighters is beaten, he immediately claims he wants a rematch as there is a clause in their contract. But, since the ball is now on Dubois side, if I was him, I would not accept a rematch. What for? He needs to continue going on top, than pause and waste time with someone he has already beaten. A fight against Usyk will be interesting to watch. After such a win now, and a controversial lose to Usyk, a rematch is required. Usyk is busy with Fury. So Dubois could fight someone who he wont have trouble winning, and face Usyk, for example Summer 2025.

In my opinion, the outcome of the rematch will be the same. That fight really drained Anthony Joshua’s confidence.

AJ is finished, and retirement might be a wise decision. I believe his boxing career is over.

I would have bet on AJ before the fight based on how good he was in the fight he had against Francis; I would have lost. @JollyGood, from your poll. AJ was the most favored to win the fight, many gamblers lost.

I didn't watch the fight live; I only saw the highlights, And although it is difficult to judge how his performance was based on only the highlights, I could see that Dubois was the better fighter.

Dubois must really hit hard, because he got AJ wobbling on his feet a couple of times. If AJ wants a rematch, he has to come better prepared because if his preparation is not any better from this one, he will lose again.

There does not have to be a 2-3 years gap for Joshua and Dubois to have their rematch because there was a rematch clause added in to the contract between them for the 21st September fight. As it stands, Joshua and Hearn could trigger another fight with Dubois, all they have to do is simply ask for it. Keeping that aside, he does not cause fear in opponents and was never an excellent boxer in the first place therefore he will need to contemplate his next step and hopefully retire.

Well, I guess we will not be seeing Joshua retiring soon after got dominated by the champion. Based on a Facebook post (DAZN), here's what he said: "Of course I want to continue fighting" 👊 Well, he can say that on camera, but deep inside, he knows that he got humiliated hence, thinking of a retirement already.

He got welcomed pretty heavily just by basing on this picture, but can't convert it into a win. What's worse is that, he got pummeled every single round and IIRC, he got knocked down once or twice each round. Many are rooting him to win, but many got disappointed as well.

I don't think Dubois will accept a rematch with him after that dominating win. He'd rather focus on the winner of Usyk Vs. Fury rematch like you said. As for Joshua, he needs to start rock bottom again and fight other fighters before going to a title match again. I'm afraid Joshua might receive the same fate as Wilder where they got knocked out and got humiliated in their recent fights. Well, that might happen to him if Joshua's next fight in the future will end up as a loss by KO.

That if he will still have fans that will root for him after that humiliating loss. Well, there will be, but I don't think that it will be that much still after his performance in his previous fights. I agree with you though that's why he needs to start from scratch again and gather some wins along the way before having a title fight again. As for the rematch, I don't think Dubois will give it to him unless, Dubois doesn't want to fight Usyk which is highly unlikely.

It's not AJ's first KO loss. Andy Ruiz did it the first and I'm sure the first loss will always be the deepest that some fighters in the past couldn't get over and in the end more loss til they eventually resign. You know a boxer is broken when they behave like no one can save them anymore like what Tyson Fury did after the loss to Usyk.

Aj's loss against Dubois is humiliating at first but he and his fans will forget about this terrible loss when he wins in his next fight. There may even be a Joshua vs Dubois rematch after 2-3 years.

We all have an opinion about his retirement but the final decision is going to be made by him. Joshua faced reporters after the fight in the press conference and he made it clear he was not going to stop boxing. He looked completely broken as far as his state of mind was concerned yet he still believed he would carry on fighting. Maybe he does not realise his time is over.




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AJ is just not in a shape to activate that rematch clause. Seem every boxing fan I have read in comments on youtube videos thinks AJ will win the fight, I believe so since the guy KO'd Ngannou without having trouble. Anyone who lost his money in this fight is probably replaying the video over and over. That overhead shot that first landed in AJ's jaw already ruined his balance and the rest of the shots made it worse.

Retiring at 34 is too young. He will still fight. He will once again build up his confidence.

The beating is just so bad I don't want to see a rematch, nobody has done this before to Joshua, Dubois is so confident and he can take Joshua's punch, the rematch could turn out more ugly than this one.

I'm ok with him fighting Wilder for old times sake and for those who wished before for the two to meet in the ring, but a rematch against Dubois could be a disaster that could fatally end his career.

He deserves to end his career in good health so he can enjoy his money, Even Dubois was worried, he did not even celebrate; he walked on Joshua to see if he was okay, and was glad that he's ok.

Soon history will read of him but then no one will remember his numerous victories in the ring. They'll only remember and speak loudly of his losses. He may even end up as a case study for other upcoming boxers to know when to leave (retire)the ring. And if AJ continues like this which is very embarrassing to watch almost every Tom, Dick , and Harry is going to beat him.

I don't want him to keep going down this path. Joshua managed to bounce back from his KO losses before, but here we go again. I think it's time for him to rest, or he might end up like Wilder (once a champion, now just a series of losses). Boxing has its time, and unfortunately, I can't say Joshua is one of the greatest heavyweights. In my opinion, Oleksandr Usyk is the best in their division since he’s already beaten all the champions.

Joshua has made enough money to retire on too but the problem is probably going to be with his ego. If he wants to end his career with a win then that is what will take him back in to the ring but he could possibly lose that final professional fight too. Overall, he should consider retirement and not risk another devastating defeat.

If he were to activate the rematch clause I am in no doubt Dubois will absolutely beat him again by way of knockout. What seems more likely is that Joshua will fight the loser of the Fury vs Usyk rematch and retire. Even then there are issues because if Usyk wins, it opens the door for Fury vs Joshua to happen but if Fury defeats Usyk then they could be heading to their own trilogy.

Yes, I thought that AJ could have turn the tide in that round, as he caught Dubois and he back pedaled a bit and then Joshua caught him again. But AJ got reckless as he didn't protect his chin and with that right hook, it's over for him, kissing the canvass.


I still like to see the rematch though, if others are comparing this to the first Andy Ruiz fight, then we know that Joshua was able to win the rematch. However, Dubois confidence could be very high and he is willing to give Joshua that rematch to end all the speculation as who is the new face of British HW boxing.

You're on point. AJ should go on retirement to keep a better prestige for his carrier before this upcoming roaring boxers who're desperate to create theirs own histories may belittle his performance capacities.
Imagine after all the hypes of AJ that he was ready to tear Dubois apartbwirh his blood all just to retain the tittle but at end he lost the match at a fifth round knockout.
AJ has made some Worth records and cool enough to say a goodbye as though.