Topic: [ POLL ] IBF Heavyweight Title Fight: Joshua vs Dubois 21st September 2024 - page 2. (Read 449 times)

Both are bullies as far as I know, or at least based on that video. Both of them are trying to intimidate each one so I will say that it's not like Dubois has disrespect him first or what. This is boxing match fueled with testosterone level and so they both wanted to win at least in psyche war and no one wanted to give an inch.

For sure AJ will think this as a personal fight because he wanted to win and continue with his comeback and of course the biggest fight as the winner is supposedly going to fight the winner of Fury vs Usyk. So that stakes are high and so are the emotions of this boxers.

I saw a similar video from a different source days ago and my opinion has not changed. Quite simply, Joshua looked like a bully trying to intimidate Dubois. He thought it was acceptable for him to disrespect Dubois but it was not acceptable for Dubois to return it back to him.

For me, when Joshua threatened to hit him with a chair he crossed the line and became a bully as well as a nobody. Clearly Dubois is not the most articulate when it comes to having a microphone in front of him and did not know how to respond but Joshua was aware of that since they know each from many years ago when they sparred.

I hope Dubois wins the fight and in the process helps Joshua expedite his retirement.

Here is the face-off and it seems that they are building the hype already,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1hu0Y0TBPx4

Dubois very aggressive but Joshua tries to be cool. However, AJ can't stand Dubois disrespecting him and so they almost got it during their sit down interview. And it could be dangerous for Dubois as he wake up the fire in AJ here and so I'm thinking that AJ is taking this fight very personal and so might go and look for early knockout to silence Dubois here.

The poll in the thread is far closer than many would have thought. Joshua has four votes and Dubois has three. I always thought Joshua was overrated but if he wins he will hold the IBF belt and will also become a three time heavyweight world champion and just a handful of boxers have done that. If Dubois wins, Joshua should retire. Dubois is younger and has time to rectify matters in the event he loses.

Wilder looked a shadow of his former self when he got i to the ring with Zhang. The punishment Wilder sustained from Zhang that knocked him out was something others should note in the event they end up fighting Zhang at some stage.

As for Joshua vs Dubois, either would want to win before it goes to the judges scorecard because along with us they probably are also annoyed by the way some dubious counting always seems to happen.

In my opinion you are right, a KO or TKO seems likely because both are not the most composed boxers after they receive a heavy punch. Both need the win to further their ambitions, this should be a good fight to watch.

It seems Joshua has more on the line because if he loses, he really should retire. Dubois is the younger man and has many more years ahead of him.

I absolutely agree. With Dubois being younger and eager, I see that as an advantage especially when he has 23 fights behind him with 21 wins. He learned a lot from those losses and he should bring the lessons learned in to the ring when he faces Joshua.

I think Dubois has a strong chance of winning, especially considering his recent performance against Hrgovic. Joshua has had his moments, but I feel Dubois's youth and eagerness might give him the edge. If the fight goes the distance, it could be anyone's game, but I'm leaning towards Dubois winning within 12 rounds. Also, it's interesting to see how this fight impacts potential matchups with Fury or Usyk in the future, making this bout even more crucial for both fighters.

Dubois would want to prove that he deserves the title and earn being called the IBF champion, Joshua will also want to prove that his knockout against Francis wasn't just a fluke against an inexperienced boxer and he really has a lot more to give and take.

I'll say Dubois has more on the line in this fight and needs to defeat Joshua to keep getting more high profile championship matches, Joshua can get those off his reputation. I'm expecting Joshua to win.

Both of these fighters are heavy hitters so I am expecting a war that will not go the distance. Dubois is young and has accumulated some good experience in recent fights. Both of them have lost fights by knockout. Joshua was written off from the sport not that long ago but he has bounced back and is considered the favorite. It is still a very even matchup, where Dubois is entirely capable of pulling an upset if Joshua doesn’t have the mental strength to handle taking damage.

Initially though, Dubois was the interim champ when he beat Hrgovic, but when Usyk decided to vacate it because can't fulfill the mandatory fight against Dubois, he was elevated to full champion by the IBF. Yeah since he is younger than Joshua, he could be around longer than the big 3 and he could really be the next big thing for the Heavyweight division.

However, I voted for Joshua to win, I think Anthony can still pull the trigger as he shown in the Ngannou fight. Unlike Wilder, who seems to have lost everything already. Joshua can control this fight thru his jabs in the early round and score points and could probably win by decision.

I'm surprised but this is good since we will be seeing a championship fight again in the heavyweight division.
At first look, this site still list Oleksandr Usyk as the undisputed champion on the five weight class.

But with this news and as you've stated, this is already confirmed.

Oleksandr Usyk vacates IBF title in ‘present’ to Dubois and Joshua

I know probably most of us here will vote for Joshua to win but he should be careful since Dubious is a KO artist with 20 KO's in 21 fights that he won.
Also, as we can see on the betting odds of the fight, it's pretty obvious that AJ is the heavy favorite.

https://www.givemesport.com/anthony-joshua-vs-daniel-dubois-fight-odds/

I remember being disappointed with the referee for not stepping in at the appropriate times (when the heads clearly clashed) to allow Hrgovic treatment. For me, Hrgovic is very good boxer and will recover from his loss. If he gets back to winning ways it is possible within 18 months he could get his own chance at a heavyweight title fight.

Having said that, Dubois was still tested even though Hrgovic was having problem with the cut but that fight would have allowed them both to display their full skills had the injury not occurred. I keep thinking about how tired Joshua gets when he closes in on round 9 onwards and maybe with Dubois being the younger of the two by some margin could make a difference if the fight gets that far.

You are right, Joshua and Dubois are on winning streaks and both believe they will win the fight and with a future fight with either Fury or Usyk a real possibility, they definitely realise what is at stake and the financial windfall associated with it.

Well I can when we compare it to how Fury performed against Ngannou. Fury got knocked down and struggled to get a points win with many people thinking Francis won, whereas AJ nearly killed Ngannou in the second round.



Some of the damage to Hrgovic's face were due to head clashes as well. Dubois deserved the win but I think it would have been a different fight had Hrgivic not sustained so much damage to his face and eyes. Both AJ and Dubois are on great runs so this fight will show us were these fighters truly are and the winner will no doubt face another shot at Uysk (or Fury if he wins but I expect the same result as last time). Those rematches will then be the true test to see how much they've improved if at all.


I don't see Dubois beating AJ but I said the same about Dubois V Hrgovic. Dubois needs better defence or I think he'll end up on the floor like Francis did. You really can't keep eating punches from AJ and dubois is notorious for it.

Dubois is not interim champion, he has been awarded the IBF title after Usyk vacated it therefore Dubois is a heavyweight champion and Joshua is not.

That does not mean we know the outcome of the fight but I do not see this being an easy win for Joshua in the way he beat Ngannou. I think Dubois is going to be around for much longer than Joshua and will have more opportunities at world titles in the years to come. I think Dubois will win the fight  

But during first half of the fight, Dubois looked good against Usyk. What is he tries to go all in and tries to finish AJ early? Dubois is good at fight starts, but as a one-punch-knockout-boxer, he isnt great at late rounds. Frankly, I dont see Dubois winning this. And even if he wins, the next opponent most like will beat him, as he supposed to be a level higher than AJ.


If AJ wins, imho he will stay on the same level. Dubois hold only interim IBF belt. On the boxrec, AJ is still higher in rankings than Dubois. AJ will only get money and +1 win.

As for the Joshua-Dubois fight, it is a very good chance for both to rise in the rankings, and most importantly, to earn big money.
A very interesting fight. I think that Joshua is a slight favorite, most likely he will win this fight. After two fights with Usyk, he became much better, which he showed in his last two fights. I think that Joshua is the only one today who can beat Usyk, even though they have already met twice, now Joshua really looks much better than he was three or four years ago.
Now Joshua must clear out the entire division and fight the winner of Usyk-Fury-2

I cannot take the Joshua vs Ngannou fight as a marker of improvement on part of Joshua but I can see that Dubois took massive strides forward when he defeated Hrgovic. If Hrgovic did not suffer that horrible cut above his eye maybe the fight would have been more even but Dubois deserved to win.

I am thinking on the lines of Dubois being younger and far more eager to win the fight whereas Joshua had his day and opportunities and now is past his best. For me, I think Dubois will win the fight before 12 rounds. If a decision is made by the ringside judges, we do not know what sort of results the scorecards will produce therefore it is better the fight ends before the judges get involved or any controversy arises.

They deserve each other; they have the same history; both fighters suffered two devastating losses, both were called quitters, and both fighters have risen from those losses and are now gunning for another title shot.
This event will have a good narrative, knowing they have the same traits and history.

I have Joshua winning by decision here. I based it on their performance against the boxer who beat both of them, which is Usyk; Joshua performed better, and I consider him a more technical between the two.

So Usyk as they said voluntarily vacate the IBF belt for these two to have a reason to fight. You really can see how influential Turki is for his Riyadh Season.

AJ is a better fighter today, the winning streak says so. And when he won against Ngannou, people thought he would also fall against Ngannou.
He seems to be motivated more after the Usyk loss. It's insane to see he has to fight this belt over again, he basically will be 3x IBF HW champ.



Usyk vs Joshua 3 is possible if he could efficiently knock out Dubios but if I am the one to make things happen I would want Joshua vs Fury and then Usyk vs Fury.

This fight seems to be another chance awarded for AJ to prove himself and continue to be one of the heavyweight boxing champions. I don't think he would like to lose to Dubois, no matter how Dubois tries to keep the awarded IBF title than just to lose it in a hurry as an IBF title holder.

However, the fight will be interesting and tough anyway, that will be filled with many heavy punches from boxing boxers, it's the most endured boxer will stand fit and strong without being knocked out. I see AJ Knocking out Dubois before the closure of the final round. Maybe between the 5th rounds or so, Dubois will be knockout

And AJ has really bounce back from that 2x defeat from Usyk and so he is back with confidence and for sure he will still be his prime version here. Dubois might have a slight advantage in power, but AJ too has some serious power and that he is letting his hands go even more.

So boxing IQ and ring generalship is with AJ here and also the experience. AJ's weakness is technical power so I doubt that Dubois is going to developed that kind of form overnight. So I will favor AJ in his fight and maybe he can score another KO victory here.

And so I submitted my vote to AJ.

I think AJ should win this comfortably, though Dubois did have a great performance against Hrgovic. I just think AJ is too good for Dubois and Dubois is known to eat a lot of shots and I'm not sure he'll survive AJ's ones. Hopefully the winner of this fight fights the winner of the Usyk/Fury rematch, though no doubt if Fury does manage to win they'll then make a trilogy out of that, though I don't expect Fury to win unless there's some controversy.

The undercard for this fight is also pretty good. Comparable to the 5v5 recently.