Topic: [ POLL ] IBF Heavyweight Title Fight: Joshua vs Dubois 21st September 2024 - page 4. (Read 1103 times)

I just saw this tweet,



https://x.com/MatchroomBoxing/status/1836033153875448302

It's already fight week, for sure fans of this fighters are excited. Although Dubois is still a huge almost 4:1 underdog against Joshua. But this could be a great fight that we can see the underdog might pull it off, just saying.

It seems Wembley Stadium has a 90,000 capacity but it was increased to 94,000 for the Fury vs Whyte fight in 2022. Now it is being increased to 96,000 for the Dubois vs Joshua fight. Momentum and interest is slowly increasing in this fight because it is an all-British title fight (Dubois is the IBF champion) and not only that, the winner will probably face the winner of the Fury vs Usyk December 2024 rematch for a unification fight.

I am still very confident Dubois will win and Joshua will contemplate retirement.

It was announced today that the Dubois vs Joshua fight at Wembley Stadium has been completely sold out.

I think the majority will favour Joshua to win the fight and it is difficult to argue against that view. Having said that, I previously stated support for Dubois to win against Joshua because I think he will avoid the jab and get close enough to Joshua to hurt him. Also, in my opinion Joshua dismissed a below par Ngannou on the night with that punch and has since become far too overconfident of his limited abilities.

Basically, I see this as a career ending fight for Joshua and for that it is a must-win for him whereas Dubois will still have time to try another time for a title fight even if he loses on 21st September.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/articles/cpdl14njnp6o


I don't know if he will do it in three but I think AJ should get a KO or stoppage. AJ went the distance twice against Usyk whereas Dubois went out in the 9th. Whilst Dubois has won his last two with great performances I just think AJ is gonna be too good for him. Hopefully whoever wins this fight gets Fury or Usyk next, though everyone wants to see Fury/AJ and it looks like Turki wants that fight so it will probably happen.

Tony Bellew stated in an interview he believes Joshua will win the fight against Dubois by knocking him out in three rounds. He claimed Dubois was was hit 45 times by Filip Hrgovic with his right hand in four rounds in his previous fight and stated Joshua was faster therefore concluded Joshua would win.

Dubois is the IBF heavyweight world champion and he will not surrender the belt. I think he will beat Joshua and after that will fight the winner of the Fury vs Usyk rematch.

We are now two months away from this all British IBF heavyweight clash. I still believe that Dubois will win the fight in part because he the IBF heavyweight champion and is also the younger and seems more eager. As for Joshua, I think he should retire if he loses the fight because he had his time and opportunities but failed to capitalise on them. Now he should move aside with dignity if he does not win.

It did seem as though Joshua was trying to bully Dubois in a way that was supposed to demonstrate he was allowed to say and do what he wanted yet Dubois was supposed to sit there and accept it without responding. Anyway, the poll is far wider of the mark than I anticipated at this point. Seven votes have been case with five in favour of Joshua and only two in favour of Dubois. I hope we see more votes in the poll.

Exactly, if he doesn't like how Joshua conduct himself, he should stand up and that's what he did here, he never back down from that kind of intimidation and then Joshua doesn't like it and then play victim.

Anyhow, I would like to see how Dubois will carry himself moving forward, he could take this as motivation and let his hands do the talking and give AJ the beating and to humble him. Unification fights are now common and again we should thank Saudi for being the power broker in boxing so that we see this kind of great fights.

Usually when one person gets bullied he his the perpetrator and the one getting bullied when they respond they are usually not called a bully. I am glad Dubois stood up to Joshua but he should not have backed down, he should have made sure the bully Joshua did not have the last word. The best thing Dubois can do is let his hands to the talking in the ring, I hope he wins by a clear KO.

As for the winner facing Fury or Usyk, it will be another unification fight because Usyk holds all the heavyweight belts except one and that one is held by Dubois. Interesting boxing happening in September and December 

Both are bullies as far as I know, or at least based on that video. Both of them are trying to intimidate each one so I will say that it's not like Dubois has disrespect him first or what. This is boxing match fueled with testosterone level and so they both wanted to win at least in psyche war and no one wanted to give an inch.

For sure AJ will think this as a personal fight because he wanted to win and continue with his comeback and of course the biggest fight as the winner is supposedly going to fight the winner of Fury vs Usyk. So that stakes are high and so are the emotions of this boxers.

I saw a similar video from a different source days ago and my opinion has not changed. Quite simply, Joshua looked like a bully trying to intimidate Dubois. He thought it was acceptable for him to disrespect Dubois but it was not acceptable for Dubois to return it back to him.

For me, when Joshua threatened to hit him with a chair he crossed the line and became a bully as well as a nobody. Clearly Dubois is not the most articulate when it comes to having a microphone in front of him and did not know how to respond but Joshua was aware of that since they know each from many years ago when they sparred.

I hope Dubois wins the fight and in the process helps Joshua expedite his retirement.

Here is the face-off and it seems that they are building the hype already,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1hu0Y0TBPx4

Dubois very aggressive but Joshua tries to be cool. However, AJ can't stand Dubois disrespecting him and so they almost got it during their sit down interview. And it could be dangerous for Dubois as he wake up the fire in AJ here and so I'm thinking that AJ is taking this fight very personal and so might go and look for early knockout to silence Dubois here.

The poll in the thread is far closer than many would have thought. Joshua has four votes and Dubois has three. I always thought Joshua was overrated but if he wins he will hold the IBF belt and will also become a three time heavyweight world champion and just a handful of boxers have done that. If Dubois wins, Joshua should retire. Dubois is younger and has time to rectify matters in the event he loses.

Wilder looked a shadow of his former self when he got i to the ring with Zhang. The punishment Wilder sustained from Zhang that knocked him out was something others should note in the event they end up fighting Zhang at some stage.

As for Joshua vs Dubois, either would want to win before it goes to the judges scorecard because along with us they probably are also annoyed by the way some dubious counting always seems to happen.

In my opinion you are right, a KO or TKO seems likely because both are not the most composed boxers after they receive a heavy punch. Both need the win to further their ambitions, this should be a good fight to watch.

It seems Joshua has more on the line because if he loses, he really should retire. Dubois is the younger man and has many more years ahead of him.

I absolutely agree. With Dubois being younger and eager, I see that as an advantage especially when he has 23 fights behind him with 21 wins. He learned a lot from those losses and he should bring the lessons learned in to the ring when he faces Joshua.

I think Dubois has a strong chance of winning, especially considering his recent performance against Hrgovic. Joshua has had his moments, but I feel Dubois's youth and eagerness might give him the edge. If the fight goes the distance, it could be anyone's game, but I'm leaning towards Dubois winning within 12 rounds. Also, it's interesting to see how this fight impacts potential matchups with Fury or Usyk in the future, making this bout even more crucial for both fighters.

Dubois would want to prove that he deserves the title and earn being called the IBF champion, Joshua will also want to prove that his knockout against Francis wasn't just a fluke against an inexperienced boxer and he really has a lot more to give and take.

I'll say Dubois has more on the line in this fight and needs to defeat Joshua to keep getting more high profile championship matches, Joshua can get those off his reputation. I'm expecting Joshua to win.

Both of these fighters are heavy hitters so I am expecting a war that will not go the distance. Dubois is young and has accumulated some good experience in recent fights. Both of them have lost fights by knockout. Joshua was written off from the sport not that long ago but he has bounced back and is considered the favorite. It is still a very even matchup, where Dubois is entirely capable of pulling an upset if Joshua doesn’t have the mental strength to handle taking damage.

Initially though, Dubois was the interim champ when he beat Hrgovic, but when Usyk decided to vacate it because can't fulfill the mandatory fight against Dubois, he was elevated to full champion by the IBF. Yeah since he is younger than Joshua, he could be around longer than the big 3 and he could really be the next big thing for the Heavyweight division.

However, I voted for Joshua to win, I think Anthony can still pull the trigger as he shown in the Ngannou fight. Unlike Wilder, who seems to have lost everything already. Joshua can control this fight thru his jabs in the early round and score points and could probably win by decision.

I'm surprised but this is good since we will be seeing a championship fight again in the heavyweight division.
At first look, this site still list Oleksandr Usyk as the undisputed champion on the five weight class.

But with this news and as you've stated, this is already confirmed.

Oleksandr Usyk vacates IBF title in ‘present’ to Dubois and Joshua

I know probably most of us here will vote for Joshua to win but he should be careful since Dubious is a KO artist with 20 KO's in 21 fights that he won.
Also, as we can see on the betting odds of the fight, it's pretty obvious that AJ is the heavy favorite.

https://www.givemesport.com/anthony-joshua-vs-daniel-dubois-fight-odds/

I remember being disappointed with the referee for not stepping in at the appropriate times (when the heads clearly clashed) to allow Hrgovic treatment. For me, Hrgovic is very good boxer and will recover from his loss. If he gets back to winning ways it is possible within 18 months he could get his own chance at a heavyweight title fight.

Having said that, Dubois was still tested even though Hrgovic was having problem with the cut but that fight would have allowed them both to display their full skills had the injury not occurred. I keep thinking about how tired Joshua gets when he closes in on round 9 onwards and maybe with Dubois being the younger of the two by some margin could make a difference if the fight gets that far.

You are right, Joshua and Dubois are on winning streaks and both believe they will win the fight and with a future fight with either Fury or Usyk a real possibility, they definitely realise what is at stake and the financial windfall associated with it.

Well I can when we compare it to how Fury performed against Ngannou. Fury got knocked down and struggled to get a points win with many people thinking Francis won, whereas AJ nearly killed Ngannou in the second round.



Some of the damage to Hrgovic's face were due to head clashes as well. Dubois deserved the win but I think it would have been a different fight had Hrgivic not sustained so much damage to his face and eyes. Both AJ and Dubois are on great runs so this fight will show us were these fighters truly are and the winner will no doubt face another shot at Uysk (or Fury if he wins but I expect the same result as last time). Those rematches will then be the true test to see how much they've improved if at all.


I don't see Dubois beating AJ but I said the same about Dubois V Hrgovic. Dubois needs better defence or I think he'll end up on the floor like Francis did. You really can't keep eating punches from AJ and dubois is notorious for it.