[...] Nah, I already agreed to give any recoveries to charity [...]
What did I lie about, I'll correct it, please include the link.
Also, @Bitcoin Scammer, in every single argument I know I've won it when the other party calls me a troll.
Topic: POLL: Is TradeFortress a scammer? TRUSTED FORUM MEMBER, lol - page 4. (Read 14630 times)
What did I lie about, I'll correct it, please include the link.
Also, @Bitcoin Scammer, in every single argument I know I've won it when the other party calls me a troll.
[...] Nah, I already agreed to give any recoveries to charity [...]
What did I lie about, I'll correct it, please include the link.
In other words, all I did was exploit your poorly written site, get into the admin panel, see that you have made some modifications, take a screenshot and post it on your thread.
No, you never developed the site I paid you 27 btc to develop and I had to pay someone else to do the whole thing.You're obviously not proficient to do any white-hat programming.
How do I know? Because I can unchanged parts from the site and the admin panel. Your site still has a serious security vulnerability that allows an attacker to execute actions on your (or anyone's) account, by the way. Send $1000 to the address in my sig, no I have never agreed to refund you. It doesn't matter if you claim I owe you some imaginary amount of bitcoins, I don't owe you anything.
Kindly stop spreading lies.
Just sue him, he admitted to unauthorized access into your site, I know under USA laws, the computer abuse and fraud act, you can sue and for pretty much 100% win and get even double that cause he cause you down time and lost business 
I already gave him permission to try to hack my site in the future, so he might claim that as permission after the fact. definitely not 100% although it could cost him some serious legal fees or . . . settlement for the coins he owe me, maybe I should sue him. . .Nah, I already agreed to give any recoveries to charity, so I'll assign the lawsuit rights to the charity if it comes forward.
He says that I stole 100 BTC, tried to redirect funds to my address, etc, which are completely false. I did get in access to his site 
You're lying about the 100 BTC theft thing, the VALUE RISKED was 100BTC, i.e. the value of my site when you P/T'ed it. I've updated it to clarify.The redirection might be untrue because the rando address your account had looked like a vanity-gen and I probably made a mistake on that.
Just sue him, he admitted to unauthorized access into your site, I know under USA laws, the computer abuse and fraud act, you can sue and for pretty much 100% win and get even double that cause he cause you down time and lost business
In other words, all I did was exploit your poorly written site, get into the admin panel, see that you have made some modifications, take a screenshot and post it on your thread.
No, you never developed the site I paid you 27 btc to develop and I had to pay someone else to do the whole thing.You're obviously not proficient to do any white-hat programming.
Well I don't know if he's a scammer but he's def not a fan of bitcoinscammer.com or ME. I will be sure to call him out IF MORE FACTS ARE PRESENT AND MORE PPL COME FORWARD.
In other words, all I did was exploit your poorly written site, get into the admin panel, see that you have made some modifications, take a screenshot and post it on your thread.
He says that I stole 100 BTC, tried to redirect funds to my address, etc, which are completely false. I did get in access to his site
You're lying about the 100 BTC theft thing, the VALUE RISKED was 100BTC, i.e. the value of my site when you P/T'ed it. I've updated it to clarify.The redirection might be untrue because the rando address your account had looked like a vanity-gen and I probably made a mistake on that.
He says that I stole 100 BTC, tried to redirect funds to my address, etc, which are completely false. I did get in access to his site
I see Tradefortress has posted this in MoneyPackTrader.com's trustlist:
So in the thread he admits to unauthorized "penetration testing" and then writes something contradictory as a trust comment.
Anyway, show me the damages I've done to you. Which is nothing other than your sites relutation, which I think is fair - an eye for an eye. I regularly try to break into sites, and I always disclose it to the owners without any malicious damages done. For some people, I do it publicly.
Thanks for advertising my pentesting skills too!
So in the thread he admits to unauthorized "penetration testing" and then writes something contradictory as a trust comment.
User redream please post your offers publicly in the appropriate forum thread or people will think you're hiding something.
UPDATE: Tradefortress SCAMMER/HACKER HACKED MY SITE:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammer-tradefortress-p-ted-my-site-without-permission-no-damage-afaik-closed-223665
Fortunately, this scammer hacker only had limited access to the db and coins are stored offsite.
His attempted deposit redirect . . . FAILED
PLEASE CONDEMN THAT ASS HAT
UPDATE: Tradefortress SCAMMER/HACKER HACKED MY SITE:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammer-tradefortress-p-ted-my-site-without-permission-no-damage-afaik-closed-223665
Fortunately, this scammer hacker only had limited access to the db and coins are stored offsite.
His attempted deposit redirect . . . FAILED
PLEASE CONDEMN THAT ASS HAT
update: judge.me is refusing to refund the 1BTC I paid them for arbitration they couldn't give (because TF refused to participate).
Peter of judge.me is now ignoring all my emails, even though he said he'd refund the coin, he never did. . .
Peter of judge.me is now ignoring all my emails, even though he said he'd refund the coin, he never did. . .
The fact that he received 21 YES is a staggering reality !
I don't think hes a scammer so sorry. How come you didnt post the blockchain info to show us you actually sent?
because it was never contested.I've introduced evidence to prove all the numbered elements I claimed.
what exactly is being contested of the numbered claims?
This poll is for sublime's Scammer list - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149147.0;all
My summary/viewpoint of charges against TradeFortress:
1) I had a horrible experience trying to get my site coded by TF.
2) He intentionally scammed me out of 27 BTC.
3) He knew he did not have the level of skill or experience required to sell web-programming services for a commercial bitcoin accounts based website.
4) He misrepresented his experience by failing to correct my mistaken belief that he coded a bitcoin accepting website in the past, specifically https://bitzino.com/ the website in his forum sig. This obviates any claim of "buyer beware" for his services.
5) He attempted to do what was necessary to present the appearance of successfully coding my site, but as the code/final site provided reveals, this was still a non-operable site that did not forward bitcoins correctly and was written so poorly and has so many bugs and non-usable aspects it is unsuitable to be sold as commercial website design. The only publicly released version of his final product (as of now) is available here:
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/398233/Moneypak-zip.html
direct link - http://94.75.216.85/en/file/398233/Moneypak-zip.html
I have stopped hosting it since I don't want customers to associate this non-functional and unusable site with my domain. I am instead paying for a complete rewrite of the site.
6) TF has not released a functional version of the website I paid 27 BTC to be completed.
7) TF agreed to pay arbitration, but never filed the case and instead slandered me in emails to the judge.me arbitration service and has not paid the fee for the case I filed at judge.me.
I've agreed to send any funds recovered from TF to charity.
9) TF Scam thread with lengthy details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126588.0;all
10) TF Review thread with more details of our dispute here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tradefortress-review-thread-146319
11) TF solicited more work from others, using the non-functional/unfinished web-development he did for me, but few others were actually scammed and one user reports a good experience, however their site is apparently non-functional as of this post (see above threads).
12) Careful review of the evidence in the linked threads will prove TF is a scammer and not a proficient web-developer.
Not to my knowledge. He paid me the 0.05 BTC he promised.My summary/viewpoint of charges against TradeFortress:
1) I had a horrible experience trying to get my site coded by TF.
2) He intentionally scammed me out of 27 BTC.
3) He knew he did not have the level of skill or experience required to sell web-programming services for a commercial bitcoin accounts based website.
4) He misrepresented his experience by failing to correct my mistaken belief that he coded a bitcoin accepting website in the past, specifically https://bitzino.com/ the website in his forum sig. This obviates any claim of "buyer beware" for his services.
5) He attempted to do what was necessary to present the appearance of successfully coding my site, but as the code/final site provided reveals, this was still a non-operable site that did not forward bitcoins correctly and was written so poorly and has so many bugs and non-usable aspects it is unsuitable to be sold as commercial website design. The only publicly released version of his final product (as of now) is available here:
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/398233/Moneypak-zip.html
direct link - http://94.75.216.85/en/file/398233/Moneypak-zip.html
I have stopped hosting it since I don't want customers to associate this non-functional and unusable site with my domain. I am instead paying for a complete rewrite of the site.
6) TF has not released a functional version of the website I paid 27 BTC to be completed.
7) TF agreed to pay arbitration, but never filed the case and instead slandered me in emails to the judge.me arbitration service and has not paid the fee for the case I filed at judge.me.
I've agreed to send any funds recovered from TF to charity.9) TF Scam thread with lengthy details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126588.0;all
10) TF Review thread with more details of our dispute here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tradefortress-review-thread-146319
11) TF solicited more work from others, using the non-functional/unfinished web-development he did for me, but few others were actually scammed and one user reports a good experience, however their site is apparently non-functional as of this post (see above threads).
12) Careful review of the evidence in the linked threads will prove TF is a scammer and not a proficient web-developer.
Paying someone to code your site 95% of the time you will end up with results below your expectations. Doesnt mean the dev is a scammer.
Also #7 offering, then backing out of arbitration seals the scammer tag IMHO.
Also, below "expectations" is irrelevant, that's not my claim, it's below contract spec, i.e. unusable.
This poll is for sublime's Scammer list - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149147.0;all
My summary/viewpoint of charges against TradeFortress:
1) I had a horrible experience trying to get my site coded by TF.
2) He intentionally scammed me out of 27 BTC.
3) He knew he did not have the level of skill or experience required to sell web-programming services for a commercial bitcoin accounts based website.
4) He misrepresented his experience by failing to correct my mistaken belief that he coded a bitcoin accepting website in the past, specifically https://bitzino.com/ the website in his forum sig. This obviates any claim of "buyer beware" for his services.
5) He attempted to do what was necessary to present the appearance of successfully coding my site, but as the code/final site provided reveals, this was still a non-operable site that did not forward bitcoins correctly and was written so poorly and has so many bugs and non-usable aspects it is unsuitable to be sold as commercial website design. The only publicly released version of his final product (as of now) is available here:
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/398233/Moneypak-zip.html
direct link - http://94.75.216.85/en/file/398233/Moneypak-zip.html
I have stopped hosting it since I don't want customers to associate this non-functional and unusable site with my domain. I am instead paying for a complete rewrite of the site.
6) TF has not released a functional version of the website I paid 27 BTC to be completed.
7) TF agreed to pay arbitration, but never filed the case and instead slandered me in emails to the judge.me arbitration service and has not paid the fee for the case I filed at judge.me.
I've agreed to send any funds recovered from TF to charity.
9) TF Scam thread with lengthy details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126588.0;all
10) TF Review thread with more details of our dispute here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tradefortress-review-thread-146319
11) TF solicited more work from others, using the non-functional/unfinished web-development he did for me, but few others were actually scammed and one user reports a good experience, however their site is apparently non-functional as of this post (see above threads).
12) Careful review of the evidence in the linked threads will prove TF is a scammer and not a proficient web-developer.
My summary/viewpoint of charges against TradeFortress:
1) I had a horrible experience trying to get my site coded by TF.
2) He intentionally scammed me out of 27 BTC.
3) He knew he did not have the level of skill or experience required to sell web-programming services for a commercial bitcoin accounts based website.
4) He misrepresented his experience by failing to correct my mistaken belief that he coded a bitcoin accepting website in the past, specifically https://bitzino.com/ the website in his forum sig. This obviates any claim of "buyer beware" for his services.
5) He attempted to do what was necessary to present the appearance of successfully coding my site, but as the code/final site provided reveals, this was still a non-operable site that did not forward bitcoins correctly and was written so poorly and has so many bugs and non-usable aspects it is unsuitable to be sold as commercial website design. The only publicly released version of his final product (as of now) is available here:
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/398233/Moneypak-zip.html
direct link - http://94.75.216.85/en/file/398233/Moneypak-zip.html
I have stopped hosting it since I don't want customers to associate this non-functional and unusable site with my domain. I am instead paying for a complete rewrite of the site.
6) TF has not released a functional version of the website I paid 27 BTC to be completed.
7) TF agreed to pay arbitration, but never filed the case and instead slandered me in emails to the judge.me arbitration service and has not paid the fee for the case I filed at judge.me.
I've agreed to send any funds recovered from TF to charity.9) TF Scam thread with lengthy details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126588.0;all
10) TF Review thread with more details of our dispute here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tradefortress-review-thread-146319
11) TF solicited more work from others, using the non-functional/unfinished web-development he did for me, but few others were actually scammed and one user reports a good experience, however their site is apparently non-functional as of this post (see above threads).
12) Careful review of the evidence in the linked threads will prove TF is a scammer and not a proficient web-developer.
Not to my knowledge. He paid me the 0.05 BTC he promised.
Paying someone to code your site 95% of the time you will end up with results below your expectations. Doesnt mean the dev is a scammer.
I don't think hes a scammer so sorry. How come you didnt post the blockchain info to show us you actually sent?
TF feels he has safely completed the scam of 27BTC.
Feel free to post with links to key evidence that influenced your votes either way.
Feel free to post with links to key evidence that influenced your votes either way.
concise history of how it was not "months" is available here if you don't want to parse through the above post/s
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