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April 05, 2023, 03:25:20 PM
The presence of AI is still being debated because some feel that AI can help many human activities, including finding complete information. The AI itself is still in the development stage. And maybe if AI can develop to a more advanced stage than now that can really help human activities, we will see how this AI works.

Today's AI developers are still trying to perfect AI technology, which doesn't stop them from achieving what they want. And the popularity of AI itself will slowly rise so that we can use AI properly. And maybe later, we can use AI to find more and valid information that we can use as additional information to bet.
It might be under debate, but the reality is that it already is helping many human activities, the activities can range from writing emails to helping developers with their coding activities. I know that it isn't perfect, everyone knows that, but it does well and with a little tweaking done by a human, the work it does is perfectly useful.

But, that doesn't include gambling or betting, because that isn't something it can do very well. If you ask it to do some research for you or analyze a match and give you a pick based on that, it might do that but the result will surely not be perfect and accurate.
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April 05, 2023, 03:02:43 PM

AIs analyzing sports accurately may really destroy sports gambling. I can only see gamblers relying much on it to make money, the lazier we become since it's like having a glimpse of the future result. 

What about the protest of Elon that AI development must be stopped?  I was watching the news about it recently that government may actually prohibit the further development of AIs.


Are you sure, if Al can predict or analyze sports accurately, because I really don't believe in that. So, I can't imagine it. but if so, what will happen to sports betting and that means we will lose the essence and thrill in every bet. Plus, there are lots of casinos that have gone out of business. and even if so, in other words that Al can predict anything including markets. then, is this not too much. I know, there have been many waves of protest regarding this artificial intelligence technology. not even just coming from Elon, even Bill Gates voiced the same thing. to be honest, this artificial intelligence technology really benefits us as humans. but it seems that this artificial intelligence technology "Al" will get protests from many countries. plus, famous figures. no wonder, if in the end many countries banned it.
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April 05, 2023, 02:23:30 PM
AI only does analysis based on the data, it has no feeling. for example, milan playing against napoli, this was a game that happened days ago, but it serves as a good example, the AI would analyze all data and without a doubt it would predict that Napoli would win the game, that's because napoli is on top from Serie A, it has good defense, good attack and has already beaten milan in the past, while milan are not doing well in the league. it's all data that the AI would make it favor Napoli, so you would be convinced that napoli would win the game, so what could go wrong with the AI's prediction? well, what the AI could not analyze would be the following: Napoli players went to play in their countries' national teams, with that you would come back worn out, mainly because it is not easy to play in Africa

in addition to the temperatures in africa not being easy to deal with, the games also have a lot of physical contact, so when napoli's main player returned, he returned injured, without the main striker napoli was left with a weakened attack, with that it could already be predicted that napoli would not be able to win the game, but for the AI that only analyzes data, there would be no way to analyze this very important factor, only a human could think that way, the AI does not serve as something guaranteed in the analysis of a game, in sports betting i I would not trust any AI, I prefer to do analyzes alone, it is safer in my opinion, there are people who prefer to pay others or listen to others, these people would use AI

Rather then asking for a winner you could ask for an analysis summary of the teams that are playing against each other, and that would show if there are any injuries etc and remember to add them to summary of the team (what kind of injury, how long to recover etc). Imho you are underestimating how exponential has the growth been and what's the near future is going to be like. For example ChatGPT4 is already online seeking real time data and can make and run programs. Unless if you are following sports you are betting to for work, you won't have the necessary data to form your opinions from and AI can summarise it for you. As you can just ask if you can't find something.

But i am not saying they are doing a best possible job now, but progression has been increasing so fast that i don't think we need to wait for too much longer for way more accurate predictions from AI.
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April 05, 2023, 01:59:22 PM
Now that chatgpt4 can access to net, the whole system is on a different level. Now you definitely can have an edge. If you are not trusting the AI, you can just ask pointers from it. Like compile information from any data found from the internet. That makes the whole prediction more accurate when you can access to data that almost feels like inside information. And you don't have to have any knowledge about anything. You can just compare the data and make decision.

And best part is. You don't even need to do that manually if you don't want. ChatGPT4 can run programs. That's right. You could just set it up to make bets for you. I am pretty sure someone somewhere is already selling this service forward.
What about the old versions of ChatGpt? I think it can also access the web because how can it provide answers to our questions? I don't think the answers are already preloaded since it wasn't a downloadable software and if it is, that size of the software is going to be really huge. If we don't trust the AI then we shouldn't use the entire thing but we still can if we partially trust it.

We will just follow the advice that you provide there. Insider information is not publicly posted anywhere or in the web so making a prediction using a ChatGpt will still be hard or inaccurate but we can always observe and decide if we will continue using it or not.

We always in control whether to use it or not, it's better not to be blind I mean not to blindly follow whatever the AI will dictate you but better to also analyze all this info that they provided on why they will bring you the recommendations to bet on player or team that will bring out from the system.

AI information was from what he gathered around the internet where information is being available. If you want to review, you can also search and sort it out before concluding in placing your bets.
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April 05, 2023, 11:46:23 AM
Now that chatgpt4 can access to net, the whole system is on a different level. Now you definitely can have an edge. If you are not trusting the AI, you can just ask pointers from it. Like compile information from any data found from the internet. That makes the whole prediction more accurate when you can access to data that almost feels like inside information. And you don't have to have any knowledge about anything. You can just compare the data and make decision.

And best part is. You don't even need to do that manually if you don't want. ChatGPT4 can run programs. That's right. You could just set it up to make bets for you. I am pretty sure someone somewhere is already selling this service forward.
What about the old versions of ChatGpt? I think it can also access the web because how can it provide answers to our questions? I don't think the answers are already preloaded since it wasn't a downloadable software and if it is, that size of the software is going to be really huge. If we don't trust the AI then we shouldn't use the entire thing but we still can if we partially trust it.

We will just follow the advice that you provide there. Insider information is not publicly posted anywhere or in the web so making a prediction using a ChatGpt will still be hard or inaccurate but we can always observe and decide if we will continue using it or not.
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April 05, 2023, 11:09:33 AM

AIs analyzing sports accurately may really destroy sports gambling. I can only see gamblers relying much on it to make money, the lazier we become since it's like having a glimpse of the future result. 

What about the protest of Elon that AI development must be stopped?  I was watching the news about it recently that government may actually prohibit the further development of AIs.

Even if AI try its best, it will not predict the future. But their use in other sectors is increasing day by day. Humans are rapidly becoming dependent on this AI which can lead to major disasters at one stage. And considering ‍several issues, various restrictions are being given in some countries.
The use of AI is being banned in various countries. As far i know in some countries the Development of AI has been suspended for a certain time. In may sense it is not possible to stop it even with restrictions.
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April 05, 2023, 11:03:09 AM
AIs analyzing sports accurately may really destroy sports gambling. I can only see gamblers relying much on it to make money, the lazier we become since it's like having a glimpse of the future result. 
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Accurate analysis cannot provide the final result of the game. Unlike a system that is setting up based on a winning percentage, sports cannot be set by this system. Even though AI can analyze based on data from A-Z, in one match, the final result will not be able to be solved by AI. So, AI is only a support for analysis, nothing more than that. In the end, predictions between AI and human predictions will have similarities. However, the important point for gamblers is that the end result of getting a win from the bet is not due to good AI analysis. Maybe for online slots, if AI can hacked the system pattern, maybe AI can do more than sport analysis, because slots are working by system and online gamblers may can get advantage from it (not guarantee).
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April 05, 2023, 10:45:32 AM

AIs analyzing sports accurately may really destroy sports gambling. I can only see gamblers relying much on it to make money, the lazier we become since it's like having a glimpse of the future result. 

What about the protest of Elon that AI development must be stopped?  I was watching the news about it recently that government may actually prohibit the further development of AIs.

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April 05, 2023, 08:49:54 AM
And in that case an AI will be way better than a human gambler, after all a human gambler can only have a limited expertise on a small number of sports, however an AI as long as it has enough data to produce models could in theory make bets on every single market available to it.

This could give a massive advantage to the developers of such an AI as there are markets that due to their unpopularity may offer better opportunities for profits, especially if we compare them to other markets which are more popular and in which casinos put more attention, and as such profits are more difficult to obtain.
The presence of AI is still being debated because some feel that AI can help many human activities, including finding complete information. The AI itself is still in the development stage. And maybe if AI can develop to a more advanced stage than now that can really help human activities, we will see how this AI works.

Today's AI developers are still trying to perfect AI technology, which doesn't stop them from achieving what they want. And the popularity of AI itself will slowly rise so that we can use AI properly. And maybe later, we can use AI to find more and valid information that we can use as additional information to bet.
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April 05, 2023, 06:22:39 AM
And in that case an AI will be way better than a human gambler, after all a human gambler can only have a limited expertise on a small number of sports, however an AI as long as it has enough data to produce models could in theory make bets on every single market available to it.

This could give a massive advantage to the developers of such an AI as there are markets that due to their unpopularity may offer better opportunities for profits, especially if we compare them to other markets which are more popular and in which casinos put more attention, and as such profits are more difficult to obtain.

As long as the AI have all the necessary information about the sports you intend to bet on, then there's really a high chance that the predicted result will be the outcome of the game. Assuming that all the recent and relevant information are all in the database, the prediction will be more accurate or precise at the very least. However, if there are information, especially the crucial ones that are left behind and weren't included on the AI's system, it will be a risky situation if you decided to bet without counterchecking the odds first and the recent updates about the teams you plan to support and put your money on. Hence, it is important to still research even if you already plan to use an AI to generate possible ending of the match.
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April 04, 2023, 11:39:34 PM
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AI only does analysis based on the data, it has no feeling. for example, milan playing against napoli, this was a game that happened days ago, but it serves as a good example, the AI would analyze all data and without a doubt it would predict that Napoli would win the game, that's because napoli is on top from Serie A, it has good defense, good attack and has already beaten milan in the past, while milan are not doing well in the league. it's all data that the AI would make it favor Napoli, so you would be convinced that napoli would win the game, so what could go wrong with the AI's prediction? well, what the AI could not analyze would be the following: Napoli players went to play in their countries' national teams, with that you would come back worn out, mainly because it is not easy to play in Africa

in addition to the temperatures in africa not being easy to deal with, the games also have a lot of physical contact, so when napoli's main player returned, he returned injured, without the main striker napoli was left with a weakened attack, with that it could already be predicted that napoli would not be able to win the game, but for the AI that only analyzes data, there would be no way to analyze this very important factor, only a human could think that way, the AI does not serve as something guaranteed in the analysis of a game, in sports betting i I would not trust any AI, I prefer to do analyzes alone, it is safer in my opinion, there are people who prefer to pay others or listen to others, these people would use AI

At the end of the day, the "feeling" is also based on previous data, so the AI could in theory model that as well.

For example, if you watch a couple of teams from another country playing against each other, and you've never seen or heard about them before, you probably won't have any "feeling" about one or the other.
And in that case an AI will be way better than a human gambler, after all a human gambler can only have a limited expertise on a small number of sports, however an AI as long as it has enough data to produce models could in theory make bets on every single market available to it.

This could give a massive advantage to the developers of such an AI as there are markets that due to their unpopularity may offer better opportunities for profits, especially if we compare them to other markets which are more popular and in which casinos put more attention, and as such profits are more difficult to obtain.
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April 04, 2023, 07:08:37 PM
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AI only does analysis based on the data, it has no feeling. for example, milan playing against napoli, this was a game that happened days ago, but it serves as a good example, the AI would analyze all data and without a doubt it would predict that Napoli would win the game, that's because napoli is on top from Serie A, it has good defense, good attack and has already beaten milan in the past, while milan are not doing well in the league. it's all data that the AI would make it favor Napoli, so you would be convinced that napoli would win the game, so what could go wrong with the AI's prediction? well, what the AI could not analyze would be the following: Napoli players went to play in their countries' national teams, with that you would come back worn out, mainly because it is not easy to play in Africa

in addition to the temperatures in africa not being easy to deal with, the games also have a lot of physical contact, so when napoli's main player returned, he returned injured, without the main striker napoli was left with a weakened attack, with that it could already be predicted that napoli would not be able to win the game, but for the AI that only analyzes data, there would be no way to analyze this very important factor, only a human could think that way, the AI does not serve as something guaranteed in the analysis of a game, in sports betting i I would not trust any AI, I prefer to do analyzes alone, it is safer in my opinion, there are people who prefer to pay others or listen to others, these people would use AI

At the end of the day, the "feeling" is also based on previous data, so the AI could in theory model that as well.

For example, if you watch a couple of teams from another country playing against each other, and you've never seen or heard about them before, you probably won't have any "feeling" about one or the other.
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April 04, 2023, 05:51:26 PM
But no matter what people want, the thing that matters is what the reality is, and the reality is that AI isn't really up to the mark to do this task for now, so no matter how much someone wishes to have an AI do their work, they will have to do it themselves if they want to be able to win.

I might partially disagree. AI technology is really insane that they can do anything now that humans can't even do.

The AI technology really improve nowadays and guess what, being used now at some industries.

Soon, there will be a time that companies will only rely on AI for such minor tasks.

AI only does analysis based on the data, it has no feeling. for example, milan playing against napoli, this was a game that happened days ago, but it serves as a good example, the AI would analyze all data and without a doubt it would predict that Napoli would win the game, that's because napoli is on top from Serie A, it has good defense, good attack and has already beaten milan in the past, while milan are not doing well in the league. it's all data that the AI would make it favor Napoli, so you would be convinced that napoli would win the game, so what could go wrong with the AI's prediction? well, what the AI could not analyze would be the following: Napoli players went to play in their countries' national teams, with that you would come back worn out, mainly because it is not easy to play in Africa

in addition to the temperatures in africa not being easy to deal with, the games also have a lot of physical contact, so when napoli's main player returned, he returned injured, without the main striker napoli was left with a weakened attack, with that it could already be predicted that napoli would not be able to win the game, but for the AI that only analyzes data, there would be no way to analyze this very important factor, only a human could think that way, the AI does not serve as something guaranteed in the analysis of a game, in sports betting i I would not trust any AI, I prefer to do analyzes alone, it is safer in my opinion, there are people who prefer to pay others or listen to others, these people would use AI
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April 04, 2023, 03:46:14 AM
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I think you are overestimating the fact that AI can somehow manage to figure out the random. Random is random and that can't be figured out, there is no way, and if you are a casino then you can use AI for your benefit, but if you are a gambler there is no way that you can use it for your benefit at all, it would not be working properly at all.

I hope that people would be doing something that could benefit them in the long run with AI, like even medical stuff which could be pretty good, but obviously there is a big question mark of should it even be responsible for it. But the help would always be welcomed but when it comes to gambling? I do not think so.

Well, it all depends on what you are measuring, and the data available.

For example, if you throw a dice there's one out of six chances that a number 6 appears. That's because you don't know anything about the dice, but in reality the more you know, the closer and better probabilities you can calculate. Maybe that particular dice is loaded, and maybe you know how it's being thrown, the environment, etc, the more you know, the better prediction you can get, and maybe you know that in that particular case the chances of getting a 6 are more like 50% instead of 1 out of 6.

So, random is completely random when you don't know any better, but if you do know more information you can definitely reduce the noise and get a better estimate.
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April 04, 2023, 02:19:52 AM
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I think you are overestimating the fact that AI can somehow manage to figure out the random. Random is random and that can't be figured out, there is no way, and if you are a casino then you can use AI for your benefit, but if you are a gambler there is no way that you can use it for your benefit at all, it would not be working properly at all.

I hope that people would be doing something that could benefit them in the long run with AI, like even medical stuff which could be pretty good, but obviously there is a big question mark of should it even be responsible for it. But the help would always be welcomed but when it comes to gambling? I do not think so.
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April 04, 2023, 02:15:39 AM
But no matter what people want, the thing that matters is what the reality is, and the reality is that AI isn't really up to the mark to do this task for now, so no matter how much someone wishes to have an AI do their work, they will have to do it themselves if they want to be able to win.
I might partially disagree. AI technology is really insane that they can do anything now that humans can't even do.

The AI technology really improve nowadays and guess what, being used now at some industries.

Soon, there will be a time that companies will only rely on AI for such minor tasks.
There is definitely no doubt that AI is a powerful technology that has got the ability to do a whole lot of things that humans can either not do or do very slowly, and no one can deny the fact that AI is being utilized in a lot of industries for a lot of operations that it can easily do and make things look more perfect and on the track.

But, when it comes to sports betting, there are some minor things that the AI cannot see or know if they happen all of a sudden. Let me give you an example, let's suppose there is a football match coming up, there are always some favorite and best players in teams that the teams mostly rely on, and, imagine that the favorite side's best player picks up an injury before the match and isn't included in the squad. Now, the news spreads pretty fast and humans can find out, but how would AI know that unless it is available as a data source to them? And the whole result of the game can be changed just by this thing. Hence, AI isn't perfect for this at least for now, we can't say anything for the future.
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April 03, 2023, 11:56:38 PM
But no matter what people want, the thing that matters is what the reality is, and the reality is that AI isn't really up to the mark to do this task for now, so no matter how much someone wishes to have an AI do their work, they will have to do it themselves if they want to be able to win.

I might partially disagree. AI technology is really insane that they can do anything now that humans can't even do.

The AI technology really improve nowadays and guess what, being used now at some industries.

Soon, there will be a time that companies will only rely on AI for such minor tasks.

That's really a possibility. We might see more companies that will use AI services to do small tasks and allow the system to work with their business. So far in the topic, maybe there are gamblers who will continue to work with some possible advantages that they can get from AI, especially those information that might really be a factor that might affect the outcome of the game.


Getting your sentiment with that last statement, sometimes, that emotions leads us to failure and those who understand well on how to use artificial intelligence knew that with emotionless gambling/trading or anything that related to something that might affects our fears should not be used while you are into the kind of business.

Lesser risk if you allow your future goal to take place. As long as you are willing to take the risk and know how to wait till your set target will be hit, AI is useful on that kind of matter.


Well in part, as I have said in previous posts, they are things or tools that are currently available for trading, what happens is that people believe that when there is a tool or indicator it is to use it and win at once, that is something impossible, You have to have the corresponding analysis to know how to use the indicators or whatever you want, but the human analysis for me is still superior, in the game it is something else, there will always be the factor of randomness and that is what makes the difference, without However, I know that many AIs are specialized for trading and games, but it is not reliable, I would not recommend it.


For now, maybe Ais are not reliable yet. But there could be a time that its development will be working. There used to be just some codes for it but now there is the hardware that will execute what AIs are trying to do, it's continuous development.

It still that human analysis will also be used by AIs to predetermine outcomes so it's not at all AI starting to analyze from scratch. most likely they will be data from the bookies as well which that randomness will also exist.

Well, I do not rule out that in the future AIs will dominate the world the most, in fact there is talk that a government can be managed by an AI, in part it would be something new, but it is also scary because something like that would be like an apocalypse, seeing it from that point of view because those who do not like the control of a government will not like it at all to be controlled by a machine with Some conscience, besides that it would be managed by something that is not human, all those films that are futuristic that show those things, it's incredible but I see them as possible, in the case of the game there will come a time when the AI will be able to make good bets and win.


Who knows, right? But for now we can only assume and provide our opinions but in reality we may or we may not be experienced that far and human will still in control (hopefully) in terms of betting who won't love to see that to happen, I mean if AI can predict in a much better accuracy for sure many will use it, but in my opinion on this, gambling is a business for sure admin and owners will adjust to prevent being a cash cows of the gamblers. Roll Eyes
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April 03, 2023, 11:36:34 PM

Getting your sentiment with that last statement, sometimes, that emotions leads us to failure and those who understand well on how to use artificial intelligence knew that with emotionless gambling/trading or anything that related to something that might affects our fears should not be used while you are into the kind of business.

Lesser risk if you allow your future goal to take place. As long as you are willing to take the risk and know how to wait till your set target will be hit, AI is useful on that kind of matter.


Well in part, as I have said in previous posts, they are things or tools that are currently available for trading, what happens is that people believe that when there is a tool or indicator it is to use it and win at once, that is something impossible, You have to have the corresponding analysis to know how to use the indicators or whatever you want, but the human analysis for me is still superior, in the game it is something else, there will always be the factor of randomness and that is what makes the difference, without However, I know that many AIs are specialized for trading and games, but it is not reliable, I would not recommend it.


For now, maybe Ais are not reliable yet. But there could be a time that its development will be working. There used to be just some codes for it but now there is the hardware that will execute what AIs are trying to do, it's continuous development.

It still that human analysis will also be used by AIs to predetermine outcomes so it's not at all AI starting to analyze from scratch. most likely they will be data from the bookies as well which that randomness will also exist.

Well, I do not rule out that in the future AIs will dominate the world the most, in fact there is talk that a government can be managed by an AI, in part it would be something new, but it is also scary because something like that would be like an apocalypse, seeing it from that point of view because those who do not like the control of a government will not like it at all to be controlled by a machine with Some conscience, besides that it would be managed by something that is not human, all those films that are futuristic that show those things, it's incredible but I see them as possible, in the case of the game there will come a time when the AI will be able to make good bets and win.
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April 03, 2023, 06:59:36 PM
But no matter what people want, the thing that matters is what the reality is, and the reality is that AI isn't really up to the mark to do this task for now, so no matter how much someone wishes to have an AI do their work, they will have to do it themselves if they want to be able to win.

I might partially disagree. AI technology is really insane that they can do anything now that humans can't even do.

The AI technology really improve nowadays and guess what, being used now at some industries.

Soon, there will be a time that companies will only rely on AI for such minor tasks.
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April 03, 2023, 04:36:37 PM
of course it is the best decision in making your predictions to determine the outcome bets from the analysis you made before, but why are people starting to consider AI as a tool to make their predictions and/or adjust to the predictions that have been made so that they refer to corroborating conclusions? or reverse direction, using AI is not just for most people here to determine their bets in my opinion, it's just possible because AI can provide the explanation we ask for something we don't understand so many people try it to test whether AI can predict correctly, and how accurate the predictions are. maybe like that I guess.
There can only be two reasons why someone would want to use AI to research and predict the outcome of a game they are willing to bet on for them, the first reason probably is to get an easy and guaranteed win, and the other reason could be the laziness for not doing the research and analysis themselves as it can be a time-consuming and tiresome process.

But no matter what people want, the thing that matters is what the reality is, and the reality is that AI isn't really up to the mark to do this task for now, so no matter how much someone wishes to have an AI do their work, they will have to do it themselves if they want to be able to win.
You know that there are really people who would really be doing on whatever things that possible could give out higher chances of winning on which it would be no shocking that AI would really be considered out.

We do know that using up AI on predicting outcomes? Yes, they could give out those significant information on various subjects but speaking literally on knowing the outcome then its impossible.

There's no way for an AI to know on what would be the outcome of a certain match or whatsoever.Lots of factors which would be affecting outcome is something that could
influenced it and this is why its really hard to give out that 100% sure win.
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