POLL - Which crypto do you feel is the biggest "scam"? - - REVISED 4 ACCURACY - - page 6.

explorer

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Quote from: smooth on March 08, 2016, 05:12:54 PM

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on March 08, 2016, 05:04:06 PM

explorer, everyone figured out what the poll should have asked and answered based on what it should ask. We humans are very smart and adaptable.

ArticMine, very well written and solid points. Thanks.

Explorer's answer may be correct even based on what the poll is trying to ask. In the sense that to the extent BTC is a scam (and there is not no basis for that) it has scammed more people for more money than all the others combined.

ArticMine's point is also valid. There have been more blatant scams than Dash. Then again we never know what is really going on behind the scenes with any of these coins (i.e. the most well executed scams may not even be recognized by scams at all) and Dash's instamine is particularly subject to that question since it is by its nature deceptive (Bytecoin too).

Again, an assumption yet to be clarified by the OPS (original pot stirrer)

EDIT:
OP's OP in this thread does actually clarify somewhat, but the poll question is still the poll question.

smooth

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Quote from: TPTB_need_war on March 08, 2016, 05:04:06 PM

explorer, everyone figured out what the poll should have asked and answered based on what it should ask. We humans are very smart and adaptable.

ArticMine, very well written and solid points. Thanks.

Explorer's answer may be correct even based on what the poll is trying to ask. In the sense that to the extent BTC is a scam (and there is not no basis for that) it has scammed more people for more money than all the others combined.

ArticMine's point is also valid. There have been more blatant scams than Dash. Then again we never know what is really going on behind the scenes with any of these coins (i.e. the most well executed scams may not even be recognized by scams at all) and Dash's instamine is particularly subject to that question since it is by its nature deceptive (Bytecoin too).

explorer

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Quote from: TPTB_need_war on March 08, 2016, 05:04:06 PM

explorer, everyone figured out what the poll should have asked and answered based on what it should ask. We humans are very smart and adaptable.

ArticMine, very well written and solid points. Thanks.

Ah, so 'everyone' is a mind reader! Good to know. If the OP meant what 'everyone' thought, then why not ask that question? Would they then have answered this question? The mind boggles.

TPTB_need_war

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explorer, everyone figured out what the poll should have asked and answered based on what it should ask. We humans are very smart and adaptable.

ArticMine, very well written and solid points. Thanks.

explorer

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It cannot possibly be other than BTC, as it is the only one known outside of the crypto community. Untold numbers of people that do not even know that there IS a crypto community call BTC a scam. So much for logic. Of course, a poll like this is intended to do nothing but stir the pot, and as we see, has had moderate success in doing so. A poll asking what people believe to be a scam would be more to the point, and of course most here didn't read this one correctly, and took it for such.

ArticMine

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Monero Core Team

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on March 08, 2016, 04:35:27 PM

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It is hilarious that Monero supporters hate Dash so much, they waste their vote on Dash and allow Ethereum to be less scammy than Monero in the poll. Emotions run hotter than strategic logic.

It is also a question of familiarity. Many people would not vote for example for Factum simply because they haven't spent the time to analyze it. All I know about it is that it is highly centralized. that is enough for one to eliminate it as a possible investment. It also means I would not spend any further time investigating it. My approach to Ethereum was similar. After I saw the pictures of spinning diamonds in their lavish marketing campaign that was enough for me to say no. So why spend the effort to investigate it in detail?

I would say many Moenro supporters would list Bytecoin at the top of the scam list on the basis of an 82% premine disguised as an 82% ninjamine. Dash has attracted a lot of attention among Monero supporters because at one point it was seen as direct competitor to Monero, so one spends the time on the competition. I must say that by any objective measure of scamminess Dash does not come close to been first on the list.

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Facts are more efficient than fud

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on March 08, 2016, 04:35:27 PM

Quote from: generalizethis on March 08, 2016, 04:34:15 PM

Now, if we were voting on biggest scam, the poll would be correct with dash in the lead.

Biggest would be Ethereum. Dash is a minnow compared to the ETH.

It is hilarious that Monero supporters hate Dash so much, they waste their vote on Dash and allow Ethereum to be less scammy than Monero in the poll. Emotions run hotter than strategic logic.

Eth's probably more cult of personality+misplaced expectations than a scam. I'm sure Custard thought he could beat a few Lakota and Cheyenne.

ArticMine

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Monero Core Team

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on March 08, 2016, 04:35:27 PM

Quote from: generalizethis on March 08, 2016, 04:34:15 PM

Now, if we were voting on biggest scam, the poll would be correct with dash in the lead.

Biggest would be Ethereum. Dash is a minnow compared to the ETH.

I agree and have voted accordingly.

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Quote from: generalizethis on March 08, 2016, 04:34:15 PM

Now, if we were voting on biggest scam, the poll would be correct with dash in the lead.

Biggest would be Ethereum. Dash is a minnow compared to the ETH.

It is hilarious that Monero supporters hate Dash so much, they waste their vote on Dash and allow Ethereum to be less scammy than Monero in the poll. Emotions run hotter than strategic logic.

generalizethis

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Facts are more efficient than fud

Given its long history and the amount and distinction of the people that have labeled it a scam, Bitcoin should be running away with any poll of which crypto gets the most scam accusations.

Now, if we were voting on biggest scam, the poll would be correct with dash in the lead. Though maybe it's a poll of our altcoin myopia?

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Quote from: TPTB_need_war on March 08, 2016, 04:16:54 PM

Did you guys forget to vote? MaidSafe, Factom, Bitshares, and Ethereum are less scammy than Monero according to this poll:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-which-crypto-do-you-feel-is-the-biggest-scam-revised-4-accuracy-1391752

I hope you all realize that Factom is a complete farce.

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Quote from: vlom on March 08, 2016, 02:53:21 PM

but did they steal any money from someone?

Probably.

Quote from: vlom on March 08, 2016, 02:53:21 PM

or did they promise something and did not deliver?

Absolutely! $18 million wasted, and no hope in sight of making the block chain scale for actual adoption.

vlom

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why do you all say ETH is a scam?

price may be manipulated thats true.

but did they steam any money from someone?
or did they promise something and did not deliver?

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Darkcoin aka dash

Sark

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I'm just looking for reputable top 10 coins that were put there by the smart money, but are covered in FUD.

This would be Ethereum. They had a crowdsale pre-mine, so many here think it is a scam. It also has turned into somewhat of a competitor to Bitcoin, so that also breeds a lot of hate here.

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Crypto-News.net: News from Crypto World

Quote from: mrcashking on March 08, 2016, 10:18:34 AM

Quote from: schlonged on March 08, 2016, 08:54:44 AM

I'll trust your honesty.

I'm new here, and am hoping that you wouldn't schlong this noob just for fun.

With the recent Pump i think Ethereum will be on the Top.
IMO the crypto coins are increasing at an alarming rate and solely because it could be manipulated pretty easily by a couple of people,either be it Dev's or Whales and the majority will lose money as they are so impressed by traders or miners making money while they get in at the wrong time.

in last few weeks in true ethereum is most obvious scam on top
i must say i read a lot here and every 3-4 tread is scam on eth not good

Nxtblg

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Quote from: pandher on March 08, 2016, 09:56:12 AM

If you are really looking to find a scam, the elephant in the room is Dash.

Yes, it is. "DASH = SCAM" is an altcoineer tradition. And the tradition continues.

Funny, though: the instamine happened - idk, two years ago? And how much X11Coin/Darkcoin/DASH has been redistributed through the exchanges since then ? Huh

mrcashking

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Quote from: schlonged on March 08, 2016, 08:54:44 AM

I'll trust your honesty.

I'm new here, and am hoping that you wouldn't schlong this noob just for fun.

With the recent Pump i think Ethereum will be on the Top.
IMO the crypto coins are increasing at an alarming rate and solely because it could be manipulated pretty easily by a couple of people,either be it Dev's or Whales and the majority will lose money as they are so impressed by traders or miners making money while they get in at the wrong time.

shanem

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Ethereum got a lot of call for being a scam as funds were raised in a ICO. Unfortunately, many people lost money in ICOs so they won't hesitate to label ETH as another of the shitcoins. Nevertheless, ETH is no ten dollars even with all the scam accusation.

pandher

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Stagnation is Death

If you are really looking to find a scam, the elephant in the room is Dash.

The dev premined boatloads due to a 'mistake' and he didnt fix it because the community was cool with it Lips sealed

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