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Topic: Poll :: Which star sign likes BTC most/least - page 3. (Read 10804 times)

sr. member
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this statement is false
Yes, in your eyes you might be being nice to her because of those negative energies she is dealing with, but in her eyes you might just be being nice. It doesn't really matter why you act the way you do, but if you trying to be nice because of those energies, she can benefit from you being nice just because you're nice (Which is of course a good thing!) and get back to normal quicker. It doesn't really matter what caused it, but in my opinion it's just so far fetched to seek a reason in the stars, when there's a bazillion other things that could have caused her behavior. Humans are complex creatures after all!

What about the moon?  Look at hospital records for full moons compared to normal nights, there are way more accidents.

Can you please give me a source? I'd be interested to read it. I've done a few quick google searches, but I'm finding things pointing out there are no such correlations. Thanks!

Here's a scientific article, which found no such correlation: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15166467

More self poisonings during full moon:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed&cmd=Retrieve&list_uids=7448570&dopt=Abstract

Increase in female calls, decrease in male calls during new moon at crisis-call center:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14664724?dopt=AbstractPlus

Aggravated assault more common near full moon:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/641019?dopt=Abstract

I couldn't find one directly about hospital admissions.  In my case, that was taken from anecdotal evidence from several nurses.  The effect may be limited to those who believe in it Wink.  But, the reality is, people believe in it.  That would explain it being found in limited areas, but not seen overall.  I wish I could find a study that took place in rural India, or another place where astrology is highly regarded.

are you kidding me??

correlation does not imply causation

do you understand what that means?
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
Upon review, it seems you didn't actually say this. I merely got the impression from you arguing that faith has a place alongside science, that you were holding beliefs merely by faith. I didn't realize you were arguing hypothetically.
Way to make assumptions... see, even you can be blinded by faith in your beliefs.  To believe otherwise is folly.

I'm not arguing hypothetically...
The words in my previous post were written with a touch of sarcasm in the back of my head. Indeed, you did not say it literally, but the words you spoke clearly meant you either held some beliefs out of faith, or were arguing just for the sake of arguing. The latter seemed unlikely to me. I had hoped you would have understood this from my message.

you can't hold beliefs without faith.  Science can help you hone those beliefs to approximate truth.  But, IMHO, you have an faith in science that rivals the faith of religious extremists.
Allow me to quote Tim Minchin once more here, since you're basically stating Storm's part of the conversation here:
Quote from: Tim Minchin
“You’re so sure of your position, but you’re just closed-minded.
I think you’ll find, your faith in Science and Tests,
Is just as blind as the faith of any fundamentalist”


“Hm that’s a good point, let me think for a bit
Oh wait, my mistake, it’s absolute bullshit.
Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved.
If you show me
That, say, homeopathy works,
Then I will change my mind
I’ll spin on a fucking dime
I’ll be embarrassed as hell,
But I will run through the streets yelling
It’s a miracle! Take physics and bin it!
Water has memory!
And while it’s memory of a long lost drop of onion juice is Infinite
It somehow forgets all the poo it’s had in it!

You show me that it works and how it works
And when I’ve recovered from the shock
I will take a compass and carve Fancy That on the side of my cock.”

Thanks... I watched the video..... You're just lumping me in with other people who have faith (a very large and diverse group) and repeating the thoughts of others.

Minchin is an artist, and as such has used hyperbole.  The fact that you treat it as gospel is revealing.

I do hold beliefs out of faith... my point is so do you.  There are no beliefs that don't require faith.

Definition of faith: Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
So either, you have faith, or you don't have complete confidence in anything.

Do you have faith, or is it possible that the sun isn't the center of the solar system?  You can only choose one by the dictionary definition of faith.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 504
^SEM img of Si wafer edge, scanned 2012-3-12.
Upon review, it seems you didn't actually say this. I merely got the impression from you arguing that faith has a place alongside science, that you were holding beliefs merely by faith. I didn't realize you were arguing hypothetically.
Way to make assumptions... see, even you can be blinded by faith in your beliefs.  To believe otherwise is folly.

I'm not arguing hypothetically...
The words in my previous post were written with a touch of sarcasm in the back of my head. Indeed, you did not say it literally, but the words you spoke clearly meant you either held some beliefs out of faith, or were arguing just for the sake of arguing. The latter seemed unlikely to me. I had hoped you would have understood this from my message.

you can't hold beliefs without faith.  Science can help you hone those beliefs to approximate truth.  But, IMHO, you have an faith in science that rivals the faith of religious extremists.
Allow me to quote Tim Minchin once more here, since you're basically stating Storm's part of the conversation here:
Quote from: Tim Minchin
“You’re so sure of your position, but you’re just closed-minded.
I think you’ll find, your faith in Science and Tests,
Is just as blind as the faith of any fundamentalist”


“Hm that’s a good point, let me think for a bit
Oh wait, my mistake, it’s absolute bullshit.
Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved.
If you show me
That, say, homeopathy works,
Then I will change my mind
I’ll spin on a fucking dime
I’ll be embarrassed as hell,
But I will run through the streets yelling
It’s a miracle! Take physics and bin it!
Water has memory!
And while it’s memory of a long lost drop of onion juice is Infinite
It somehow forgets all the poo it’s had in it!

You show me that it works and how it works
And when I’ve recovered from the shock
I will take a compass and carve Fancy That on the side of my cock.”
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
You said the things you thought were true were based on faith. This is different from observation. A discussion about the correct or incorrect interpretation of observation is a wholly different one than the one we're having.

Quote please.  I don't believe I said that.
Upon review, it seems you didn't actually say this. I merely got the impression from you arguing that faith has a place alongside science, that you were holding beliefs merely by faith. I didn't realize you were arguing hypothetically.

Way to make assumptions... see, even you can be blinded by faith in your beliefs.  To believe otherwise is folly.

I'm not arguing hypothetically... you can't hold beliefs without faith.  Science can help you hone those beliefs to approximate truth.  But, IMHO, you have an faith in science that rivals the faith of religious extremists.  Science is performed by human beings, who are fallible.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 504
^SEM img of Si wafer edge, scanned 2012-3-12.
You said the things you thought were true were based on faith. This is different from observation. A discussion about the correct or incorrect interpretation of observation is a wholly different one than the one we're having.

Quote please.  I don't believe I said that.
Upon review, it seems you didn't actually say this. I merely got the impression from you arguing that faith has a place alongside science, that you were holding beliefs merely by faith. I didn't realize you were arguing hypothetically.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
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KNOWLEDGE IS MERELY OPINION!

SCIENCE JUST FALLS IN A HOLE WHEN IT TRIES TO EXPLAIN THE NATURE OF THE SOUL!

IM SAGITARIAN! (not really, scorpion)

legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
You said the things you thought were true were based on faith. This is different from observation. A discussion about the correct or incorrect interpretation of observation is a wholly different one than the one we're having.

Quote please.  I don't believe I said that.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
I know which star sign I hate, and it's the star next to the ask ticker on Bitcoinica Angry

A very benefic sign if you ask me.

except for people who have stops at 7.2

Interpretation of the signs is personal.  What is benefic for some is malefic for others.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 504
^SEM img of Si wafer edge, scanned 2012-3-12.
Are you saying everything is meaningless, and that this should be obvious from my surroundings?
What I say is that I haven't seen any observation that makes it reasonable to believe in astrology, water memory, the tooth fairy, or christianity.

Good for you.  So why are you telling me I'm wrong when I say I have?  Are you saying you've seen everything I have and you observed it differently?  Or is it possible I've had different experiences?
You said the things you thought were true were based on faith. This is different from observation. A discussion about the correct or incorrect interpretation of observation is a wholly different one than the one we're having.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
bitcoin hundred-aire
I know which star sign I hate, and it's the star next to the ask ticker on Bitcoinica Angry

A very benefic sign if you ask me.

except for people who have stops at 7.2
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
I know which star sign I hate, and it's the star next to the ask ticker on Bitcoinica Angry

A very benefic sign if you ask me.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
bitcoin hundred-aire
I know which star sign I hate, and it's the star next to the ask ticker on Bitcoinica Angry
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
Are you saying everything is meaningless, and that this should be obvious from my surroundings?
What I say is that I haven't seen any observation that makes it reasonable to believe in astrology, water memory, the tooth fairy, or christianity.

Good for you.  So why are you telling me I'm wrong when I say I have?  Are you saying you've seen everything I have and you observed it differently?  Or is it possible I've had different experiences?
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 504
^SEM img of Si wafer edge, scanned 2012-3-12.
Are you saying everything is meaningless, and that this should be obvious from my surroundings?
What I say is that I haven't seen any observation that makes it reasonable to believe in astrology, water memory, the tooth fairy, or christianity.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
However, science and faith don't have to be contradictory.
Quote from: Tim Minchin
Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved.

Faith is the denial that everything is meaningless.  I don't accept his definition.
What are you basing the denial on?

Choice.
I try to base my views on what's happening around me. That way, when something happens, I won't be surprised.

Are you saying everything is meaningless, and that this should be obvious from my surroundings?
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Shame on everything; regret nothing.
Mutable: Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius, Pisces: 4 + 2 + 8 + 5 = 19 ~ change that shit by inventing apps & shit for that shit & new shit & shit, R & D, development & innovation - good for inspiration & problem solving, new directions, changing any outdated concepts, brilliance (modesty)

pse excuse any typos



nearly 3 bottles of wine, the Jessi alarms have just started Moooing highs taken out, no idea what they are but as the builders are here at dawn, better to get a little shut eye.. lol Jessi alarm Mhooos just kicked in again ftw  - must resist looking at BTC-ica balance - sleeps
zzz
the talking mac says - It's 5 o'clock

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I LITERALLY lol'd at the bolded part Cheesy
Isn't the air supposed to be fuel for the fire?  Often times, it's the other way around though -- thanks for making me laugh!
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 504
^SEM img of Si wafer edge, scanned 2012-3-12.
However, science and faith don't have to be contradictory.
Quote from: Tim Minchin
Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved.

Faith is the denial that everything is meaningless.  I don't accept his definition.
What are you basing the denial on?

Choice.
I try to base my views on what's happening around me. That way, when something happens, I won't be surprised.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
However, science and faith don't have to be contradictory.
Quote from: Tim Minchin
Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved.

Faith is the denial that everything is meaningless.  I don't accept his definition.
What are you basing the denial on?

Choice.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 504
^SEM img of Si wafer edge, scanned 2012-3-12.
However, science and faith don't have to be contradictory.
Quote from: Tim Minchin
Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved.

Faith is the denial that everything is meaningless.  I don't accept his definition.
What are you basing the denial on?
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
However, science and faith don't have to be contradictory.
Quote from: Tim Minchin
Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved.

Faith is the denial that everything is meaningless.  I don't accept his definition.
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