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Topic: [POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com - page 111. (Read 465769 times)

legendary
Activity: 3654
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https://bpip.org
interesting i saw those on ebay ,they do suposedly 70 KH/s for 59.99 or 5 of those for 300 can do 350 KH/s  but 1 grid seed alone can do that for less so those are kinda of rip off if they ever got cheaper i guess it would be ok due to the low power consumption but they would have to be like half the price they currently are asking for.

The 60 KH/s (or 70 KH/s or whatever) USB sticks are not cost effective and are not supposed to be. They are more like toys. Just to clarify, they are all gridseed devices, at least I'm not aware of anybody else making them. The USB stick has one ASIC chip in it, the larger device has 5 of the same chips, hence 5 times the performance. The larger device also connects via USB but requires a separate power supply. They were selling for $250-300 not long ago, so it's a race to the bottom now.
hero member
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Merit: 500
2%??? I have thought it was 3% sense I started mining here ~3 weeks ago Cheesy
Keep up the good work champ!
member
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Merit: 10
Again, sorry it has to happen, feel free to rant about how this is the end of WP/multipools/etc, it wasn't a decision made lightly.

I've got no issue with this. I think you've been quite open and transparent since the pool opened. 2% is excellent. Thanks for your work!

+1
newbie
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Merit: 0
I'm game. Expected to happen long ago, it is normal to be payed for your work.
newbie
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Merit: 0
I would rather pay 2% than have no waffle at all. Keep up the good work, and remember to get some sleep  Wink
member
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We've been the lowest fee profit-switching pool since our start, but we do have to raise the pool fee from 1%, to 2%.

In an effort to keep with the transparency that this pool has always tried to put forth, a full explanation of the reasoning/rationality follows.

Essentially, it is nearly impossible to run the pool the way I'd like it to be run at a 1% fee.  Of that fee, a huge portion comes off the top immediately to exchange fees.  Using cryptsy as the example because most of our exchanging happens there, we lose 0.3% immediately.  We also lose a bit (depending on the coin) to transaction fees to get coins from our account, to the exchange, a bit more from the exchange to our bitcoin account, and a decently large chunk in bitcoin fees (this has gone down in 0.9, but its still a decent amount with our volume of low-priority coins) when we run payouts (and a lot more on sundays when we run 0.001 minimums).

After all of these fees, plus hosting costs (which have doubled due to the DDOS and constant attacks on our boxes), DDOS protection, server monitoring, etc, we're left with an extremely small amount for actually running the pool.  At the end of the day, with me working on the pool for 40hrs/wk (a very conservative estimate), I'm looking at what amounts to a manager's job at walmart.  Except the manager at walmart doesn't get woken up nightly due to server pages.

Essentially, for me to be able to justify the amount of work I put in on wafflepool, I need to raise the fees.

I've been wrestling with the decision for a few weeks now, and during the start of the DDOS/attacks was at the point of saying "fuck this, its just not worth the stress", but decided to fight through it and get 3hrs of sleep a night for the week.  We're back, and today is our best profit day in a while (thank god for bad luck streaks...), but its at this point that I need to raise the fees to make it worth it to run in the future.

2% seems reasonable to me.  It matches almost all of our competitors (who were smart enough to do it in the beginning), and isn't a huge change to the end user (1% to 2% isn't a major change in profitability).  And allows me to sink more work into the pool without feeling screwed at the end of the day.

Again, sorry it has to happen, feel free to rant about how this is the end of WP/multipools/etc, it wasn't a decision made lightly.
Hi,
thank you for your honesty and clear explanation of your choice.
I switched to your pool today because another profit-switching-pool was being DDos'ed, and at the moment my hashrate went at his top, the fees had been raised...!
Too bad for me, I should have jumped into your boat earlier Smiley
Thanks for your work anyway, keep it on the way you do it (because you like it), and don't be afraid to get paid for it : miners like me take a hard time to optimize their rigs, and each tiny % of real work accepted by a pool is like a little victory. So it's better for us if you keep the pool out of ddos and 99.999% up, and this has a cost.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 254
I've got no issue with this. I think you've been quite open and transparent since the pool opened. 2% is excellent. Thanks for your work!

Thanks!

Is this advance notice of a rate increase coming soon, or have you already implemented it?  (Not that it is not fair, but so is advance notice.)

This is advance notice.  I'm not sure when it will actually go up, possibly later tonight, possibly tomorrow, depends on how much real-job work I have to finish today Smiley
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
We've been the lowest fee profit-switching pool since our start, but we do have to raise the pool fee from 1%, to 2%.

In an effort to keep with the transparency that this pool has always tried to put forth, a full explanation of the reasoning/rationality follows.

Essentially, it is nearly impossible to run the pool the way I'd like it to be run at a 1% fee.  Of that fee, a huge portion comes off the top immediately to exchange fees.  Using cryptsy as the example because most of our exchanging happens there, we lose 0.3% immediately.  We also lose a bit (depending on the coin) to transaction fees to get coins from our account, to the exchange, a bit more from the exchange to our bitcoin account, and a decently large chunk in bitcoin fees (this has gone down in 0.9, but its still a decent amount with our volume of low-priority coins) when we run payouts (and a lot more on sundays when we run 0.001 minimums).

After all of these fees, plus hosting costs (which have doubled due to the DDOS and constant attacks on our boxes), DDOS protection, server monitoring, etc, we're left with an extremely small amount for actually running the pool.  At the end of the day, with me working on the pool for 40hrs/wk (a very conservative estimate), I'm looking at what amounts to a manager's job at walmart.  Except the manager at walmart doesn't get woken up nightly due to server pages.

Essentially, for me to be able to justify the amount of work I put in on wafflepool, I need to raise the fees.

I've been wrestling with the decision for a few weeks now, and during the start of the DDOS/attacks was at the point of saying "fuck this, its just not worth the stress", but decided to fight through it and get 3hrs of sleep a night for the week.  We're back, and today is our best profit day in a while (thank god for bad luck streaks...), but its at this point that I need to raise the fees to make it worth it to run in the future.

2% seems reasonable to me.  It matches almost all of our competitors (who were smart enough to do it in the beginning), and isn't a huge change to the end user (1% to 2% isn't a major change in profitability).  And allows me to sink more work into the pool without feeling screwed at the end of the day.

Again, sorry it has to happen, feel free to rant about how this is the end of WP/multipools/etc, it wasn't a decision made lightly.


Is this advance notice of a rate increase coming soon, or have you already implemented it?  (Not that it is not fair, but so is advance notice.)
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
Again, sorry it has to happen, feel free to rant about how this is the end of WP/multipools/etc, it wasn't a decision made lightly.

I've got no issue with this. I think you've been quite open and transparent since the pool opened. 2% is excellent. Thanks for your work!
full member
Activity: 307
Merit: 102
I have been thinking...

One solution to my power problem, is to change slowly my machines for some usb asic crap...

If they cost $70 per stick for 330khash, 10 will do $700 (cost of a system) and do 3.3 mhash.
Ofc they are not that fast, but for me is a deal breaker.... 70W of power consuption and no heat or noise...

I might change all my rigs alltogheter...

They could really help on these hard times of low profitability... because they remove the killer element of the equation... (the power bill!).

What do you guy´s think?

And btw where can i get those gridseed usb sticks?

Best Regards,

LPC


The only Scrypt ASIC available now is Gridseed, and these cost $150-200 for 330 KH/s, not $70, and are not USB "sticks". There is a USB stick for ~$70 but it can do only ~60 KH/s.

interesting i saw those on ebay ,they do suposedly 70 KH/s for 59.99 or 5 of those for 300 can do 350 KH/s  but 1 grid seed alone can do that for less so those are kinda of rip off if they ever got cheaper i guess it would be ok due to the low power consumption but they would have to be like half the price they currently are asking for.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 254
We've been the lowest fee profit-switching pool since our start, but we do have to raise the pool fee from 1%, to 2%.

In an effort to keep with the transparency that this pool has always tried to put forth, a full explanation of the reasoning/rationality follows.

Essentially, it is nearly impossible to run the pool the way I'd like it to be run at a 1% fee.  Of that fee, a huge portion comes off the top immediately to exchange fees.  Using cryptsy as the example because most of our exchanging happens there, we lose 0.3% immediately.  We also lose a bit (depending on the coin) to transaction fees to get coins from our account, to the exchange, a bit more from the exchange to our bitcoin account, and a decently large chunk in bitcoin fees (this has gone down in 0.9, but its still a decent amount with our volume of low-priority coins) when we run payouts (and a lot more on sundays when we run 0.001 minimums).

After all of these fees, plus hosting costs (which have doubled due to the DDOS and constant attacks on our boxes), DDOS protection, server monitoring, etc, we're left with an extremely small amount for actually running the pool.  At the end of the day, with me working on the pool for 40hrs/wk (a very conservative estimate), I'm looking at what amounts to a manager's job at walmart.  Except the manager at walmart doesn't get woken up nightly due to server pages.

Essentially, for me to be able to justify the amount of work I put in on wafflepool, I need to raise the fees.

I've been wrestling with the decision for a few weeks now, and during the start of the DDOS/attacks was at the point of saying "fuck this, its just not worth the stress", but decided to fight through it and get 3hrs of sleep a night for the week.  We're back, and today is our best profit day in a while (thank god for bad luck streaks...), but its at this point that I need to raise the fees to make it worth it to run in the future.

2% seems reasonable to me.  It matches almost all of our competitors (who were smart enough to do it in the beginning), and isn't a huge change to the end user (1% to 2% isn't a major change in profitability).  And allows me to sink more work into the pool without feeling screwed at the end of the day.

Again, sorry it has to happen, feel free to rant about how this is the end of WP/multipools/etc, it wasn't a decision made lightly.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 254
Reddcoin (RDD)
Network Hashrate: 1.24 GH/s
Block Reward: 100,000.00

Potcoin (POT)
Network Hashrate: 2.71 GH/s
Block Reward: 420.00

pw, where are you? where comments?

Reddcoin is enabled. Its not being mined because the switcher isn't choosing it (its not profitable).  I'm extremely hesitant to add POTcoin... A week or so ago when we had users hijacked (scroll back to find the posts), the only reference to the hijacker's IP was in the POTcoin code.  Doesn't make me at all excited to add it.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
I have been thinking...

One solution to my power problem, is to change slowly my machines for some usb asic crap...

If they cost $70 per stick for 330khash, 10 will do $700 (cost of a system) and do 3.3 mhash.
Ofc they are not that fast, but for me is a deal breaker.... 70W of power consuption and no heat or noise...

I might change all my rigs alltogheter...

They could really help on these hard times of low profitability... because they remove the killer element of the equation... (the power bill!).

What do you guy´s think?

And btw where can i get those gridseed usb sticks?

Best Regards,

LPC


The only Scrypt ASIC available now is Gridseed, and these cost $150-200 for 330 KH/s, not $70, and are not USB "sticks". There is a USB stick for ~$70 but it can do only ~60 KH/s.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
JHammer, you really should stop being so critical of everything. If you want it how you want it, make your own pool. You have a gripe with every pool?

Your right.. As I am making freaking twice as much here as I was at that lame pool you pimp..  CoinSolver..

What are you even doing in this thread..  Go back to CoinSlover where you make 0.0021 per MH's per day..

 

lollllll Smiley

Well for one, it is annoying as dog shit watching you bitch on EVERY post. I am not defending CS or anything I am just saying to stop commenting uselessness. I am sure you are making a "killing" over $1 a day........I am a pimp, let me dust my shoulders off. Who says that...lol I help people when I can in these forums...i didn't know I was locked to one threads. Thanks, come again. As for you gtaah, keep laughing Smiley


Can I see your twice as much as well? lolol

EDIT: and what a surprise it is JHammer and gtaah bitcheing about stuff. Shocker.
sr. member
Activity: 411
Merit: 250
Reddcoin (RDD)
Network Hashrate: 1.24 GH/s
Block Reward: 100,000.00

Potcoin (POT)
Network Hashrate: 2.71 GH/s
Block Reward: 420.00

pw, where are you? where comments?
full member
Activity: 129
Merit: 100
I have been thinking...

One solution to my power problem, is to change slowly my machines for some usb asic crap...

If they cost $70 per stick for 330khash, 10 will do $700 (cost of a system) and do 3.3 mhash.
Ofc they are not that fast, but for me is a deal breaker.... 70W of power consuption and no heat or noise...

I might change all my rigs alltogheter...

They could really help on these hard times of low profitability... because they remove the killer element of the equation... (the power bill!).

What do you guy´s think?

And btw where can i get those gridseed usb sticks?

Best Regards,

LPC
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
JHammer, you really should stop being so critical of everything. If you want it how you want it, make your own pool. You have a gripe with every pool?

Your right.. As I am making freaking twice as much here as I was at that lame pool you pimp..  CoinSolver..

What are you even doing in this thread..  Go back to CoinSlover where you make 0.0021 per MH's per day..

  

lollllll Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
Yeh I am seeing heaps of rejects, I just started mining here again coming from clever as the DDOS attack is happening... but geez the rejects are not what they used to be a week ago..

member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
JHammer, you really should stop being so critical of everything. If you want it how you want it, make your own pool. You have a gripe with every pool?

Your right.. As I am making freaking twice as much here as I was at that lame pool you pimp..  CoinSolver..

What are you even doing in this thread..  Go back to CoinSlover where you make 0.0021 per MH's per day..

 
hero member
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Merit: 500
Question: Is pool vardiff tuning based on pool hashrate, global hashrate and qty of users on pool.
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