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October 10, 2019, 09:44:14 AM
If you wanna leave comfortable in an over populated area,  you've got to figure out how to isolate yourself,  perhaps you find a working place close to your home or you work from home,
legendary
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October 10, 2019, 07:19:32 AM
It's choking especially when it takes 2 hours to travel 16 km away from home and in the evening it's miserable as it takes upto 4 hours. You can't be comfortable unless you're always at home.

We feel the pressure especially in the rush hour where workers are going home after a long day of work. You guys are lucky because you have that transport called "Light Rail Transit System" a modern "Train". in our city, we don't have that thing. we only have a small bus called Jeepney. when the rush hour comes, you will see a lot of NBA players, what I mean by that is everyone is jumping on that jeepney when they see it coming. If you are not fast enough, the jeepney would be full as soon as they arrived at the terminal. If it is full, you need to wait for the next one to come. this is one of the pressure we are facing every day. Guess why? it is because of the massive population in our country.

In my observation, most Filipinos do NOT live with a 4 hour jeepney ride every day.  Just like in any country, some people choose to live in densely populated areas like metro Manila.  They both reap the rewards and suffer the consequences of their choices.  For people who live in free countries and who have freedom of movement it's a little bit disingenuous to live in a big city than bitch about overpopulation.

I would say that the problems the country has do not stem primarily from over-population.  More from distribution of wealth issues which themselves spring from power balance issues.  Corruption has a lot to do with it it appears to me, and more critically, people's tolerance of it.  There are other things as well.  One of them the 'crab mentality' issue which has been mentioned before on this board.  The peeps grab the nearest person to them to drag them down just like crabs, and inevitably that is someone in their own category.  Support your fellow citizen in their efforts instead and see what happens to the society.

A bigger issue yet is 'brain drain'.  Hopefully with a stronger sense of nationalism more people will stick it out in The Philippines, or at least be more likely to come back eventually.  As I see it The Philippines has suffered vast damage from a campaign of 'demoralization' which is a Soviet term for a long running psychological operation to get the population ready for a revolution.  Who, if anyone, ran such a putative campaign and for what reason is unknown to me.

If low population density was the key to happiness the Mongolians would be a lot better off than they are.

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October 10, 2019, 04:57:08 AM
It's choking especially when it takes 2 hours to travel 16 km away from home and in the evening it's miserable as it takes upto 4 hours. You can't be comfortable unless you're always at home.

We feel the pressure especially in the rush hour where workers are going home after a long day of work. You guys are lucky because you have that transport called "Light Rail Transit System" a modern "Train". in our city, we don't have that thing. we only have a small bus called Jeepney. when the rush hour comes, you will see a lot of NBA players, what I mean by that is everyone is jumping on that jeepney when they see it coming. If you are not fast enough, the jeepney would be full as soon as they arrived at the terminal. If it is full, you need to wait for the next one to come. this is one of the pressure we are facing every day. Guess why? it is because of the massive population in our country.
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October 10, 2019, 02:30:00 AM
How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

Isolate. Fix your home or try going out to the woods and explore the nature once in a while.
legendary
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October 07, 2019, 10:51:36 AM
It's choking especially when it takes 2 hours to travel 16 km away from home and in the evening it's miserable as it takes upto 4 hours. You can't be comfortable unless you're always at home.
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October 06, 2019, 02:48:26 PM
I remember getting told a few similar statements. "Everyone has a sign on their head saying 'I'm special'", and "Every person you see walking down the street is a wallet".

IMHO, a large population only becomes a problem if resources are not managed properly and if you allow the population to be a liability (not disciplining and training them).

The sense I get from most of these earth-is-gonna-die eco types is "There is just the right number of me and way to many of you."  They can make careers out of trying to figure out how to stop the darkies from breeding and often they do.

The problem with 'over populations' is that people get what they need to survive.  Total spend is cost/head * heads.  Twice as many heads means half the profit from one's pineapple plantations.  You can reduce the cost/head, but you get closer and closer to revolt then you have to spend a lot on paramilitary operations and the like.

My country is in one of those listed. Sickening to think of how low people would stoop for these resources.

And the thing is, these "elites" are mostly doing it just to maintain their positions. They're own populace need to be satisfied enough so they make sure that goods can be taken cheaply from elsewhere.

Not that they treat their own people better. They just need to be satisfied enough to keep working.
legendary
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October 04, 2019, 03:25:49 PM
See https://duckduckgo.com/?q=population+control%2C+developing+underground+&t=h_&ia=web.

These 8 Hidden Underground Cities Are Groundbreaking (Literally) - https://www.zipcar.com/ziptopia/future-city/eight-hidden-underground-cities.

You can figure out searches that do better than this, on showing how we can live underground successfully. There is no end to underground room for living. And that isn't even taking into account above ocean-bed living in the seas.

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October 04, 2019, 01:01:31 PM
How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

It is very hard to accomplish that, especially if you don't like overcrowded places.
You have to understand that there are limits set by others and yourself so everyone should respect them. If this is the case you are going to live comfortable and not be bothered by anyone.
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October 04, 2019, 09:20:19 AM
How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

I think people have to adapt, there are disadvantages and advantages in a overpopulated
environment and community. Just go with a positive outlook on how things would benefit
you and your interest. The downside of overpopulated areas is the pollution and garbage
waste, in my country that is the main problem and it comes with severe consequences.
Though as people grow old, they would seek a lesser populated and milder environment.
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October 03, 2019, 03:22:18 PM
Just waiting for people to unleash their inner Thanos in the comments.  Grin

Yup there's plenty of people and they live in miserable conditions but I think we can still find solutions. OK, I ain't going socialist but if we get better at allocating resources, it need not be a problem. This place here got no water and this place here got too much, what to do? Move it around.
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October 02, 2019, 03:41:48 PM
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The sense I get from most of these earth-is-gonna-die eco types is "There is just the right number of me and way to many of you."  They can make careers out of trying to figure out how to stop the darkies from breeding and often they do.

Reminded me of that video I saw of the sterilization program in India, which I believe happened during Indira Gandhi's time. They have women still bloody and fainting being dragged out of the clinics to make way for more.

And the thing is, the "pop explosion scare" haven't really materialized. Many countries are rapidly aging and countries which we think of as high fertility like those in the Middle East are also slowing down. We already see in China how things can get messed up when one forces these programs.
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September 30, 2019, 02:38:49 PM
#98
How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

Impossible. Where there are too many people, there is violence and unnatural behavior. Humankind in a confined place seems to behave similarly to animals in confinement: the social engagement suffers and the natural behavior disappears.
Konrad Lorenz was an excellent writer, he also won a Nobel prize for his research related to animals/humans behavior and the analysis of society. I strongly recommend for you to read one of his master's book: Civilized man's eight deadly sins (you can download it from here:http://www.freepdf.info/index.php?post/Lorenz-Konrad-Civilized-man-s-eight-deadly-sins).

This is a brilliant exposition directly related to your question, for, in there, Lorenz explains how overpopulation is finishing the "natural" behavior of the humankind and how dangerous it is. He also compares human with wolfs in captivity and the changes in their natural social system.


We could not have a full life in an overpopulated environment.  In addition to a very difficult social structure, it is fraught with mental illness, at best.  A person needs space, a comfort zone.  Violating it, a person comes in an internal conflict
legendary
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October 02, 2019, 07:51:12 AM
#98
if you have good skill the overpopulation and misery of others can fuel your wealth

I remember getting told a few similar statements. "Everyone has a sign on their head saying 'I'm special'", and "Every person you see walking down the street is a wallet".

IMHO, a large population only becomes a problem if resources are not managed properly and if you allow the population to be a liability (not disciplining and training them).

The sense I get from most of these earth-is-gonna-die eco types is "There is just the right number of me and way to many of you."  They can make careers out of trying to figure out how to stop the darkies from breeding and often they do.

The problem with 'over populations' is that people get what they need to survive.  Total spend is cost/head * heads.  Twice as many heads means half the profit from one's pineapple plantations.  You can reduce the cost/head, but you get closer and closer to revolt then you have to spend a lot on paramilitary operations and the like.

Kissinger('s people) captured it pretty well in NSSM 200  From wikipedia:

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The basic thesis of the memorandum was that population growth in the least developed countries (LDCs) is a concern to US national security, because it would tend to risk civil unrest and political instability in countries that had a high potential for economic development. The policy gives "paramount importance" to population control measures and the promotion of contraception among 13 populous countries to control rapid population growth which the US deems inimical to the socio-political and economic growth of these countries and to the national interests of the United States since the "U.S. economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad" and the countries can produce destabilizing opposition forces against the US.

It would be a good idea for the 13 countries who were specifically named as targets in the above memorandum to pay particular attention the the vaccines that the cooperating agencies (UN, USAID, etc) are bringing in, though it looks like their efforts on the 'injection' side of things have been adopted for world-wide use.  The nature of the effects they have on differing populations is adjusted accordingly.  In the U.S., for instance, giving people non-lethal ailments requiring life-long prescription drug use makes sense because the peeps have money to shake out where in less wealthy countries there is not point.  Just sterilize them or get them to die off quickly.

By the way, the reason why so many people can make a pretty good living working on depopulation programs of various sorts is that the likes of Kissinger are behind it.  Money is not one of the resources that his class lack...and they have a set of ethics which propels them forward rather than holds them back when it comes to eugenical implementations.

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October 02, 2019, 04:35:24 AM
#97
if you have good skill the overpopulation and misery of others can fuel your wealth

I remember getting told a few similar statements. "Everyone has a sign on their head saying 'I'm special'", and "Every person you see walking down the street is a wallet".

IMHO, a large population only becomes a problem if resources are not managed properly and if you allow the population to be a liability (not disciplining and training them).
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September 30, 2019, 10:19:44 AM
#96
I would say this is a philosophical question)) You can live in such conditions, but the quality of this life will already be lower.  In overpopulated residential areas, consumption levels naturally increase, leading to a struggle for resources.  Crime is growing: illegal trade, theft, violence and murder.
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October 02, 2019, 03:22:40 AM
#96
How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

Actually living in an over populated environment become advantage
for smart people who take opportunity to sell products. Logically, if more and
more people in a country, of course make it easier in terms of selling
can make more demand for products. And that can make big profit, just thinking
about technical marketing for selling the products. If we are can earn a large income,
it will be comfortable living in the environment which is densely populated though.

Humans are basically created with the brain to think. Then of all
problems that occur can be sought for a solution. Problems living in a dense environment
the population is not a problem if every citizen can think innovative and
creative in making money. But this practice is not as easy as reversing
palms, need hard work.
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September 30, 2019, 02:08:57 PM
#95
the human race has reached too large numbers for this planet (almost seven billion people), the resources will soon become scarce (food, water), pollution has already reached unacceptable levels, we must all give ourselves a move and changing our habits, such as recycling, polluting less, big industries must understand that it is time to switch to sustainable raw materials such as natural gas and replace coal with graphite otherwise it will be the end of this planet, to live in tranquility/comfortable you need to look for isolated areas with few people (fortunately still exist)...
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September 10, 2019, 10:21:33 AM
#94
How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?
[/Live within your limits]
legendary
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July 13, 2019, 12:30:46 AM
#93
^^^ Yeah. Like the Russians have roped off the biggest emptiest chunk of land ever... Siberia. And there is Mongolia, right next door.

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July 12, 2019, 09:09:51 PM
#92
You all are right. The population is growing and growing fast. Some people wrote about Asian countries and it's true. As developing countries, they have very drastic population growth. And it's not only about India and China. Other regions like the Philippines https://populationstat.com/philippines/manila, Bangladesh, for instance, have the same issue.
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