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But speaking without using feelings, even though I'm a Benfica fan, in my opinion, Sporting is a team that is performing better this season, which is why I'm rooting for Sporting to win the league. Benfica lost humiliatingly when they played against Porto and Sporting, showing that they still need to improve a lot so that they can beat Sporting and Porto. It wouldn't be good to have Benfica as champions knowing that they can't beat strong teams

Sporting really deserves the title
Unfortunately the team couldn't beat Atalanta to stay in the Europa League, but even Liverpool couldn't stop the Italian team hehe



But in the Portuguese championship, Sporting's superiority does the team justice
If they win their last four games, they could reach an incredible 92 points and beat Porto's current record of 91 points  Shocked Shocked Shocked
Incredible, do you think Sporting will beat that record?

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Benfica achieved a good victory yesterday when they played against Farense. although Farense is a team that hasn't been doing well in recent games, it hasn't been able to win. That's why this was a game that Benfica would easily win. But I must admit that I didn't expect Benfica to concede a goal. It's true that this season Benfica has been a team with defensive problems in some games, but when they are games against very weak teams they manage to win without conceding a goal, which is why I expected that in this game Benfica would be able to win without conceding a goal. although Benfica managed to score 2 goals in the 1st half and came close to scoring the third goal in the 1st half, I was still not very convinced that in the 2nd half they would score many goals

and I was right, in the 2nd half Benfica managed to score a goal but was unable to cause any great danger to the defense of Farense, it seemed that Benfica's coach had already resigned himself to the result so he gave instructions to his players to save themselves physically, I don't know if he really This is what happened in the 2 half, this is just my opinion, I could be wrong. With this victory, Benfica continues with 7 points behind Sporting, it will be difficult for Benfica to catch up to Sporting, but Sporting's next game will be against Porto and although Porto no longer have a chance of fighting for the title, they will not want to finish in position 4, which is why in my opinion Porto will strive to beat Sporting and manage to finish in position 3 and if Sporting loses in the next game and Benfica wins in the next game then the difference in points would be 4 points, That would be good for Benfica.

But speaking without using feelings, even though I'm a Benfica fan, in my opinion, Sporting is a team that is performing better this season, which is why I'm rooting for Sporting to win the league. Benfica lost humiliatingly when they played against Porto and Sporting, showing that they still need to improve a lot so that they can beat Sporting and Porto. It wouldn't be good to have Benfica as champions knowing that they can't beat strong teams
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Braga hosted Vizela at home. Vizela had not won for 4 weeks before this match. It was very difficult for the relegation favorites to get points from this match and it happened. Braga managed to defeat their opponent at home and got 3 points and managed to increase the point difference with Porto to 3 again. We can say that there will be a fierce fight between the 2 teams until the last week. Next week Braga will go to Benfica away and in the last week they will host Porto. Almost everything is in their hands now.

Without a doubt, Braga only depends on themselves to guarantee third place, but based on their experience and even the difficulties they had in winning the game against Vizela, I think it will be difficult for them to guarantee that place.

I believe they will lose to both Benfica and Porto. Their "luck" is that Porto isn't doing very well either and could still lose points until then.
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League winner was decided few weeks ago in Lisbon derby were Sporting won.

I agree, that match was probably the most important of the championship for both teams
A Benfica win could have made the competition more exciting and with some chance for Benfica
Now only a miracle can take the title away from Sporting

Put both Porto and Sporting parlay to win their games and also over 2.5 goals in Sporting game. Odds aren't very attractive, but I need such boring bets to recover some money. Expecting comfortable win from Sporting, while Porto, they need to win everything to not let Braga away as they're fighting for spot in Europa league.

You're almost winning the bet, all that's left to do is finish the Sporting match (3x0 now)
But I've had a bad time betting on Porto, this season I haven't been able to get good results like last one, in several games it was Porto that made me lose the bet  Angry
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Sporting have been able to gather maximum points which have been able to help them get a comfortable lead at the top of the table leaving Befica to be at second place. With this lead, I don’t think Benfica will be able to catch up with sporting at the top of the table.

 Sporting have few matches left and they are just against some weak teams in the league and as such you expect Sporting to still be able to get maximum points in the remaining matches of the league.  This kind of victory can only be gotten through lots of determination and hardwork and i think they really merit the league for how much energy they put into actualizing this victory.
League winner was decided few weeks ago in Lisbon derby were Sporting won. Winning that postponed game only helped to show how big Sporting lead actually is. With remaining 5 games miracle need to happen that they would waste title. They have quite easy remaining games, excpet Porto. But Porto itself is far from playing great.
Put both Porto and Sporting parlay to win their games and also over 2.5 goals in Sporting game. Odds aren't very attractive, but I need such boring bets to recover some money. Expecting comfortable win from Sporting, while Porto, they need to win everything to not let Braga away as they're fighting for spot in Europa league.
Sporting Lisbon is without doubt leading the league table with a comfortable points difference ahead of Benfica but that doesn't mean that the Portuguese league title have already been decided if you ask me. Sporting are seven points ahead of Benfica but there are 15 more points to play for by both teams before the end of the season which means that mathematically, Benfica is still very much in the race to win the league title.
Considering the performance of Sporting Lisbon this season, they're very much likely to win the league but must continue to put out their best to seal the championship victory
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Braga hosted Vizela at home. Vizela had not won for 4 weeks before this match. It was very difficult for the relegation favorites to get points from this match and it happened. Braga managed to defeat their opponent at home and got 3 points and managed to increase the point difference with Porto to 3 again. We can say that there will be a fierce fight between the 2 teams until the last week. Next week Braga will go to Benfica away and in the last week they will host Porto. Almost everything is in their hands now.
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Sporting have been able to gather maximum points which have been able to help them get a comfortable lead at the top of the table leaving Befica to be at second place. With this lead, I don’t think Benfica will be able to catch up with sporting at the top of the table.

 Sporting have few matches left and they are just against some weak teams in the league and as such you expect Sporting to still be able to get maximum points in the remaining matches of the league.  This kind of victory can only be gotten through lots of determination and hardwork and i think they really merit the league for how much energy they put into actualizing this victory.
League winner was decided few weeks ago in Lisbon derby were Sporting won. Winning that postponed game only helped to show how big Sporting lead actually is. With remaining 5 games miracle need to happen that they would waste title. They have quite easy remaining games, excpet Porto. But Porto itself is far from playing great.
Put both Porto and Sporting parlay to win their games and also over 2.5 goals in Sporting game. Odds aren't very attractive, but I need such boring bets to recover some money. Expecting comfortable win from Sporting, while Porto, they need to win everything to not let Braga away as they're fighting for spot in Europa league.

I think you can also make a bet builder out of that Sporting game tonight,the best would be Sporting to win,Over 2.5 or 3.5 and both teams to score yes in order to make the odd go to at least 4-5 depending on what over bet you choose.I also doubt that Sporting is going to waste in just these 5 games remaining their title win as they are already 4 points clear of Benfica and they should sleep well tonight not caring much what Benfica will do in tomorrow game.

Porto has been the most inconsistent of the top three teams during this season,most probably because they focused much more on the Champions League early in the group stages which clearly impacted their Primeira Liga performance over the long run and they should be happy if they manage to be above Braga in the end of the season,not much else they can fight for.
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Sporting have been able to gather maximum points which have been able to help them get a comfortable lead at the top of the table leaving Befica to be at second place. With this lead, I don’t think Benfica will be able to catch up with sporting at the top of the table.

 Sporting have few matches left and they are just against some weak teams in the league and as such you expect Sporting to still be able to get maximum points in the remaining matches of the league.  This kind of victory can only be gotten through lots of determination and hardwork and i think they really merit the league for how much energy they put into actualizing this victory.
League winner was decided few weeks ago in Lisbon derby were Sporting won. Winning that postponed game only helped to show how big Sporting lead actually is. With remaining 5 games miracle need to happen that they would waste title. They have quite easy remaining games, excpet Porto. But Porto itself is far from playing great.
Put both Porto and Sporting parlay to win their games and also over 2.5 goals in Sporting game. Odds aren't very attractive, but I need such boring bets to recover some money. Expecting comfortable win from Sporting, while Porto, they need to win everything to not let Braga away as they're fighting for spot in Europa league.
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Thanks to the victory in the postponed match, Sporting managed to get away from Benfica who are in 2nd place and now the point difference is 7 which makes it difficult for Benfica to catch up.
There are only 5 matches left in total for the completion of the Portuguese League competition and we can all see that Sporting has guarantee as team that will win the title.
In the future, only easy matches remain and this clearly gives Sporting more freedom to defend their position.

Today new week has started and there has been one match that has finished between Rio Ave vs Arouca and ended in 1 - 1 draw, with this draw Arouca has big chance of experiencing shift in position.
Moreirense, who is directly below Arouca, is only 1 point behind and today Moreirense will only face Gil Vicente, who is team that is not that strong in this competition.
Moreirense has very big chance and indeed they are also favorites in today match.
Sporting have been able to gather maximum points which have been able to help them get a comfortable lead at the top of the table leaving Befica to be at second place. With this lead, I don’t think Benfica will be able to catch up with sporting at the top of the table.

 Sporting have few matches left and they are just against some weak teams in the league and as such you expect Sporting to still be able to get maximum points in the remaining matches of the league.  This kind of victory can only be gotten through lots of determination and hardwork and i think they really merit the league for how much energy they put into actualizing this victory.

 The draw between Rio Ave and Arouca, is one disappointing one for Arouca because this poor result gives the room for Moreiremse to be able to overtake them and if you check their match, you’ll understand how much possible it is. They’ll be playing Gil vicente, who ain’t much of a tough competition to Moreirense and you’ll expect them to get the maximum 3 points.

 ⁠well football is a game of 90 minutes and no matter our predictions, what will happen will happen and we just have to wait till after the final whistle. This match is one crucial one and you can imagine the fans excitement if the team is able to get maximum points in this match as it’ll help build the team’s desire towards reaching their target for the season.
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Thanks to the victory in the postponed match, Sporting managed to get away from Benfica who are in 2nd place and now the point difference is 7 which makes it difficult for Benfica to catch up.
There are only 5 matches left in total for the completion of the Portuguese League competition and we can all see that Sporting has guarantee as team that will win the title.
In the future, only easy matches remain and this clearly gives Sporting more freedom to defend their position.

Today new week has started and there has been one match that has finished between Rio Ave vs Arouca and ended in 1 - 1 draw, with this draw Arouca has big chance of experiencing shift in position.
Moreirense, who is directly below Arouca, is only 1 point behind and today Moreirense will only face Gil Vicente, who is team that is not that strong in this competition.
Moreirense has very big chance and indeed they are also favorites in today match.
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With just 4 rounds to go, Sporting is getting closer to becoming champions, after winning the delayed game against Famalicão. Let's now move on to round 30, where perhaps Sporting will have the most difficult game against Vit. Guimaraes.


MATCH DAY 30:
19.04. 20:15 Rio Ave vs Arouca
20.04. 15:30 Moreirense vs Gil Vicente
20.04. 18:00 Boavista vs Estrela Amadora
20.04. 20:30 Braga vs Vizela
21.04. 15:30 Chaves vs Estoril
21.04. 15:30 Famalicão vs Portimonense
21.04. 18:00 Casa Pia vs Porto
21.04. 20:30 Sporting vs Vit. Guimarães
22.04. 20:15 Farense vs Benfica
Info: day.month. time (Lisbon time)
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Follow the results of the last round:

MATCH DAY 29 - RESULTS:
Vizela 0-1 Chaves
Benfica 3-0 Moreirense
Arouca 2-1 Boavista
Portimonense 2-2 Casa Pia
Estrela Amadora 2-2 Rio Ave
Estoril 0-1 Braga
Porto 2-2 Famalicão
Vit. Guimarães 1-1 Farense
Gil Vicente 0-4 Sporting


FEATURED MATCH - STATISTICS:
Porto 2-2 Famalicão
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this season the teams that are not frequent at the top 4 are also trying hard to the point of managing to win and draw in games against benfica and against porto, a recent example of what I'm talking about was what happened in yesterday's game involving porto against the pharmaceutical. it was a game that ended in a draw and farmalicao is a team that is in position 8 and in the last 5 games they only lost in 1 game, if the other teams are lucky to have someone rich invest in the team if the Portuguese sports law allows That's it, so I believe that we would see many teams from the Portuguese league being strong to the point of being able to go very far in European competitions. nowadays for a team to be successful it needs to have a good coach and money
Every season the competition is just like this and it is very monotonous, if there are changes or differences then they are only seen slightly and are not as significant as in other competitions.
But what interesting is that in every match, even though can see who is the favorite, there are still some big surprises that make the match results not match expectations.
Hahaha, this is one of the main attractions and the fight for the Portuguese League title can also be quite impressive from the start of the season to the middle because they are competing to be at the top of the standings, even though after the middle of the season the competition becomes quieter.

I completely agree, if investors come in and build each team well then it can further optimize the development of the Portuguese League because each team can become stronger.
Unfortunately this can't really happen at the moment and hopefully in the future there will be an agreement that can make investors interested and invest their money there.
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Benfica's defenders were more experienced, and they attacked widely from the start of the game. And the attacks were very difficult especially the counter attack was able to score goals. moreirense's goalkeeper is not very experienced as the few balls that enter the goalpost net are touched by his body, but he can't keep the ball safely. No team can win with a performance like that, because the goalkeepers and defenders who think they have to face the situation. Benfica team won and placed second in the points table, their performance is very good and will be considered as the best team in Portugal league in the future.
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FC Porto 2-2 Famalicão

 Grin Grin

This was a very important game for Porto, as they needed to win to continue their guaranteed fight for third place, since first place is an impossible mission and fighting for second is a very difficult task, this was a very disastrous season for Porto. Porto are 15 points behind Sporting and can still increase this difference to 18 points. The situation at Porto is really not good, I'm wondering if they will make any good signings next season to be able to fight for the title. I don't know, next season Porto will continue with Sérgio Conceição, whenever Porto loses he has given interviews that cause a lot of controversy. Does not like to accept defeat, always tries to blame someone for Porto's defeat. if benfica wins in the game against moreirense, then benfica will be 11 points ahead and will be very comfortable in position 2 and at least they can also come out with victory in the next game of the european league and they would move on to another phase, at least for the Benfica the situation is not as serious as the situation in Porto this season

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The Portuguese league have teams with higher impacts in the league games and European contests too. Benfica, Sporting, Porto are most impactful in this regard. Porto are doing well in the league and also have good performance records in the UCL too even though they weren't able to keep up with their good performance in their last league game which wasn't so acceptable. Same scenerio applies for Benfica and Sporting who's got their own record in the Europran cups too.

 Benfica have been doing well at securing the three points in most of their games with good goal margins. It only shows how set they are for the task put before them. Although a lesser performance isn't expected from them. Sporting are very much impactful in their games and Benfica too, the league seems less competitive as these teams unendingly saves the day for themselves and one would really wish there can be improvement as we'd love to see more clubs rising up to the contest before them and holding onto it fully.
 
 The league seems less competitive though as there are still weeks left and just these 3teams are trying to make good wave in the league. Over the years it's still these three that have been the most talked about because of the feats they've attained. One would be so sure to bet on these teams and their ability to keep progressing in points in their league games.

 Braga although have been a good team though, but they've incurred some losses too and lost but the 3points fairly in their last game. They were a better side and they were also the hosts too. Their game play didn't work well in their favor. Sadly they weren't able to keep a clean sheet and still had to bear 3goal margin from their visitors.
Yes, you are right and indeed Benfica, Sporting, Porto are 3 teams that can always dominate League games to become more competitive and they are also team that can compete in several European competitions such as the UCL and European League.
It just that so far none of them really look dominant in European competition and basically they have failed to fight for the title.
I don't know if in the future they will be able to make changes that will show much better quality of performance, but considering that currently Portuguese football is not yet filled with great players, it can be concluded that all these hopes cannot be fulfilled in the near future.

But on the other hand, Braga is also still showing the stability of their playing quality and it is likely that they will become one of the quite dangerous competing teams in the European League and several competitions in Portugal.
Next season we will definitely see how the competition is much more competitive and of course this happens not only for the Portuguese League but also several other competitions, but it looks like Sporting will remain the favorites and at the top as long as they continue on the right track.

this season the teams that are not frequent at the top 4 are also trying hard to the point of managing to win and draw in games against benfica and against porto, a recent example of what I'm talking about was what happened in yesterday's game involving porto against the pharmaceutical. it was a game that ended in a draw and farmalicao is a team that is in position 8 and in the last 5 games they only lost in 1 game, if the other teams are lucky to have someone rich invest in the team if the Portuguese sports law allows That's it, so I believe that we would see many teams from the Portuguese league being strong to the point of being able to go very far in European competitions. nowadays for a team to be successful it needs to have a good coach and money

Sporting has already played and beaten Gil Vicente (4-0), they played earlier, because next week they will play the delayed game against Famalicão.

Sporting is unstoppable this season, it was a good choice for me to add Sporting to my multibet bet. They played an excellent game and scored 4 goals, it was a very easy victory, but in my opinion in the game against Farmalicao they will not have an easy game but if Benfica also loses points in the game against Moreirense and Sporting wins in the game against farmalicao, so Sporting will guarantee the title, because I very much doubt that they would have many defeats to the point where Benfica would be able to catch up to Sporting

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The Portuguese league have teams with higher impacts in the league games and European contests too. Benfica, Sporting, Porto are most impactful in this regard. Porto are doing well in the league and also have good performance records in the UCL too even though they weren't able to keep up with their good performance in their last league game which wasn't so acceptable. Same scenerio applies for Benfica and Sporting who's got their own record in the Europran cups too.

 Benfica have been doing well at securing the three points in most of their games with good goal margins. It only shows how set they are for the task put before them. Although a lesser performance isn't expected from them. Sporting are very much impactful in their games and Benfica too, the league seems less competitive as these teams unendingly saves the day for themselves and one would really wish there can be improvement as we'd love to see more clubs rising up to the contest before them and holding onto it fully.
 
 The league seems less competitive though as there are still weeks left and just these 3teams are trying to make good wave in the league. Over the years it's still these three that have been the most talked about because of the feats they've attained. One would be so sure to bet on these teams and their ability to keep progressing in points in their league games.

 Braga although have been a good team though, but they've incurred some losses too and lost but the 3points fairly in their last game. They were a better side and they were also the hosts too. Their game play didn't work well in their favor. Sadly they weren't able to keep a clean sheet and still had to bear 3goal margin from their visitors.
Yes, you are right and indeed Benfica, Sporting, Porto are 3 teams that can always dominate League games to become more competitive and they are also team that can compete in several European competitions such as the UCL and European League.
It just that so far none of them really look dominant in European competition and basically they have failed to fight for the title.
I don't know if in the future they will be able to make changes that will show much better quality of performance, but considering that currently Portuguese football is not yet filled with great players, it can be concluded that all these hopes cannot be fulfilled in the near future.

But on the other hand, Braga is also still showing the stability of their playing quality and it is likely that they will become one of the quite dangerous competing teams in the European League and several competitions in Portugal.
Next season we will definitely see how the competition is much more competitive and of course this happens not only for the Portuguese League but also several other competitions, but it looks like Sporting will remain the favorites and at the top as long as they continue on the right track.
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Sporting has already played and beaten Gil Vicente (4-0), they played earlier, because next week they will play the delayed game against Famalicão.
In the meantime, here are all the games from this match day:

MATCH DAY 29:
12.04. 20:15 Gil Vicente vs Sporting
13.04. 15:30 Vit. Guimarães vs Farense
13.04. 18:00 Porto vs Famalicão
13.04. 20:30 Estoril vs Braga
14.04. 15:30 Estrela Amadora vs Rio Ave
14.04. 18:00 Arouca vs Boavista
14.04. 18:00 Portimonense vs Casa Pia
14.04. 20:30 Benfica vs Moreirense
15.04. 20:15 Vizela vs Chaves
Info: day.month. time (Lisbon time)
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Next week Sporting will have two matches at once, namely the 29th match which will be against Gil Vicente and also the postponed match which will be against Famalicao, in these two matches Sporting will still get the full 6 points easily.
Moreover, with what Sporting currently has and the quality of their performance, it can be concluded that no other team in the future will be able to stop them from winning the title.
All of them are easy matches and of course overall can be completed without any bad results, in the remaining matches that will lead to the completion of the competition they have confirmed their strength which shows that they are the strongest.

Sporting are also in the final position for the Portuguese Cup and they are just waiting to see who the winner will be between Porto vs Guimaraes in the second leg of the semi-final match.
Porto has 1 - 0 aggregate advantage over Guimaraes thanks to winning the first leg away match and the second leg will be home match for Porto and from here Porto has very big chance to win and then be in the final against Sporting.
In the final I think it will be fierce match because Porto also certainly hopes to win the Portuguese Cup title, if both of them play well then the chance of draw and penalty shootout could very well be possible.
The Portuguese league have teams with higher impacts in the league games and European contests too. Benfica, Sporting, Porto are most impactful in this regard. Porto are doing well in the league and also have good performance records in the UCL too even though they weren't able to keep up with their good performance in their last league game which wasn't so acceptable. Same scenerio applies for Benfica and Sporting who's got their own record in the Europran cups too.

 Benfica have been doing well at securing the three points in most of their games with good goal margins. It only shows how set they are for the task put before them. Although a lesser performance isn't expected from them. Sporting are very much impactful in their games and Benfica too, the league seems less competitive as these teams unendingly saves the day for themselves and one would really wish there can be improvement as we'd love to see more clubs rising up to the contest before them and holding onto it fully.
 
 The league seems less competitive though as there are still weeks left and just these 3teams are trying to make good wave in the league. Over the years it's still these three that have been the most talked about because of the feats they've attained. One would be so sure to bet on these teams and their ability to keep progressing in points in their league games.

 Braga although have been a good team though, but they've incurred some losses too and lost but the 3points fairly in their last game. They were a better side and they were also the hosts too. Their game play didn't work well in their favor. Sadly they weren't able to keep a clean sheet and still had to bear 3goal margin from their visitors.
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The Portuguese league have teams with higher impacts in the league games and European contests too. Benfica, Sporting, Porto are most impactful in this regard.


Porto managed to win the European Champions League, but that was many years ago and since winning the European Champions League years ago, they haven't won the European Champions League anymore. In every season that Porto participates in the European Champions League, they play with the aim of getting as far as possible and not to win the European Champions League, the same applies to Benfica and Sportirg who play to reach the as far as possible in the European Champions League and has no objective of winning the European Champions League. about the performance of Porto and Benfica in the league this season, they are terrible

Porto are doing well in the league and also have good performance records in the UCL too even though they weren't able to keep up with their good performance in their last league game which wasn't so acceptable.

In the last 5 games Porto won only 3 games, they lost 2 games and in the race for the title they are on an impossible mission. The difference in points in relation to Sporting and the difference in performance in relation to Sporting is large in my opinion, looking at the table:



Currently the difference in points between Sporting and Porto is 13 points, this means that Sporting just needs to win the missing game for that point difference to increase to 16 points and Porto only has 6 games left. So the porto is not doing well, it was a disastrous season

Same scenerio applies for Benfica and Sporting who's got their own record in the European cups too.


Well, Benfica managed to win two European Champions Leagues, but it was many years ago, while Sporting didn't win the European Champions League, but it was a team that had legends like Luis Figo and Cristiano Ronaldo. In my opinion, Sporting and the Portuguese team brought out the best Portuguese talents, I could be wrong

Benfica have been doing well at securing the three points in most of their games with good goal margins. It only shows how set they are for the task put before them. Although a lesser performance isn't expected from them.

In my opinion, Benfica are not doing well this season, they have lost when they are games against strong teams, at the moment I write they are at least winning in the European League game, but only by one goal and there are many minutes left before the game ends, what gives? time for the opponent to reverse this negative result
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Next week Sporting will have two matches at once, namely the 29th match which will be against Gil Vicente and also the postponed match which will be against Famalicao, in these two matches Sporting will still get the full 6 points easily.
Moreover, with what Sporting currently has and the quality of their performance, it can be concluded that no other team in the future will be able to stop them from winning the title.
All of them are easy matches and of course overall can be completed without any bad results, in the remaining matches that will lead to the completion of the competition they have confirmed their strength which shows that they are the strongest.

Sporting are also in the final position for the Portuguese Cup and they are just waiting to see who the winner will be between Porto vs Guimaraes in the second leg of the semi-final match.
Porto has 1 - 0 aggregate advantage over Guimaraes thanks to winning the first leg away match and the second leg will be home match for Porto and from here Porto has very big chance to win and then be in the final against Sporting.
In the final I think it will be fierce match because Porto also certainly hopes to win the Portuguese Cup title, if both of them play well then the chance of draw and penalty shootout could very well be possible.
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