Today investors must know the market cap is almost 200 K$ now, with nothing done !!!
It can look as I am not believing in Exocoin, but it is obviously very expensive.
ROI is now weaker than others coin's and it will be difficult to attract 2nd stage investors. Don't cry if your gain is weak or you eventually loose money when nobody wants to make you richer by buying at second stage !
Topic: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta - page 294. (Read 415634 times)
February 21, 2014, 08:00:45 AM
February 21, 2014, 07:31:41 AM
I have escrowed an amount with Anon136
in case he does not log in before the the 22.
all tx id etc gone though.
in case he does not log in before the the 22.
all tx id etc gone though.
February 21, 2014, 07:29:04 AM
Attached to this project exocoin.org sent 0.21135 Btc. transaction ID 0df979fad3b31ac47dc02923ee738296a34f1300bd39d00e01f06a9ceffdba3e
username on exocoin.org : borzoff
username on exocoin.org : borzoff
February 21, 2014, 07:27:45 AM
Stop the first stage of IPO now 
February 21, 2014, 07:25:17 AM
How much eXocoin will I get if I invest 0.2 Btc for example?
I don't need exact numbers, but just a rough estimate is fine.
well we cannot tell you more than that what you can calculate for yourself.I don't need exact numbers, but just a rough estimate is fine.
15% EXO for all early-birds. You will get (0.2 / (all_btc_early + equivalent valued of all_ltc_early)) * 15% * 100,000,000 EXO
as early bird. As 2nd one calculate with 10%. All_btc and all_ltc you can check here (as for now): investments
value of ltc to btc is determined one day before launch.
Ok that's approximately 110.000 Exo I guess.
That gives a break even market cap of 400 BTC or approx. $200,000 at current prices (around 400 sat).
Doesn't seem unreasonable.
Ahh ok. I was calculating with 28 Btc total investment. Thanks!
February 21, 2014, 07:20:12 AM
How much eXocoin will I get if I invest 0.2 Btc for example?
I don't need exact numbers, but just a rough estimate is fine.
well we cannot tell you more than that what you can calculate for yourself.I don't need exact numbers, but just a rough estimate is fine.
15% EXO for all early-birds. You will get (0.2 / (all_btc_early + equivalent valued of all_ltc_early)) * 15% * 100,000,000 EXO
as early bird. As 2nd one calculate with 10%. All_btc and all_ltc you can check here (as for now): investments
value of ltc to btc is determined one day before launch.
Ok that's approximately 110.000 Exo I guess.
That gives a break even market cap of 400 BTC or approx. $200,000 at current prices (around 400 sat).
Doesn't seem unreasonable.
February 21, 2014, 07:10:53 AM
How much eXocoin will I get if I invest 0.2 Btc for example?
I don't need exact numbers, but just a rough estimate is fine.
well we cannot tell you more than that what you can calculate for yourself.I don't need exact numbers, but just a rough estimate is fine.
15% EXO for all early-birds. You will get (0.2 / (all_btc_early + equivalent valued of all_ltc_early)) * 15% * 100,000,000 EXO
as early bird. As 2nd one calculate with 10%. All_btc and all_ltc you can check here (as for now): investments
value of ltc to btc is determined one day before launch.
Ok that's approximately 110.000 Exo I guess.
That gives a break even market cap of 400 BTC or approx. $200,000 at current prices (around 400 sat).
February 21, 2014, 06:51:51 AM
How much eXocoin will I get if I invest 0.2 Btc for example?
I don't need exact numbers, but just a rough estimate is fine.
well we cannot tell you more than that what you can calculate for yourself.I don't need exact numbers, but just a rough estimate is fine.
15% EXO for all early-birds. You will get (0.2 / (all_btc_early + equivalent valued of all_ltc_early)) * 15% * 100,000,000 EXO
as early bird. As 2nd one calculate with 10%. All_btc and all_ltc you can check here (as for now): investments
value of ltc to btc is determined one day before launch.
Ok that's approximately 110.000 Exo I guess.
February 21, 2014, 06:45:30 AM
This seems very positive. I really like the high standard of communication demonstrated so far by exocoin.
February 21, 2014, 06:41:56 AM
How much eXocoin will I get if I invest 0.2 Btc for example?
I don't need exact numbers, but just a rough estimate is fine.
well we cannot tell you more than that what you can calculate for yourself.I don't need exact numbers, but just a rough estimate is fine.
15% EXO for all early-birds. You will get (0.2 / (all_btc_early + equivalent valued of all_ltc_early)) * 15% * 100,000,000 EXO
as early bird. As 2nd one calculate with 10%. All_btc and all_ltc you can check here (as for now): investments
value of ltc to btc is determined one day before launch.
February 21, 2014, 06:32:01 AM
>>>YOUR REASON DOES NOT MAKE LOGICAL SENSE<<<<
Quote
The reason: the amount of EXO one investor will get on launch day depends on all investments that will be done till the end (propotional).
hang on a moment, you can calculate exactly how much to give on launch day. The Escrow, Anon, has the exact figures for what he has collected and from whom. You can calculate exactly on this basis. given this information
Then you can send the coins exo coins to either Anon or the people directly, as Anon can verify their contacts, and then the LTC / BTC can be released to you.
Even then if a person does not chose to have anon release the coins, he can send the portion back to you (minus his fee) and if exo is that good you will have no problem selling them at nice profit.
You have loudly stated on your first page you can use escrow, and escrow means at the very least the escrow holds both parts. There is no way an escrow can give BT/LTC out to you before you give out you coins. THATS NOT ESCROW. Look at it this way. Would you give your proportion away to people who simply pledge to give you coins after you give them exo....? Because thats what your asking people to do.
PS I deal in large complex Escrows for big $$$ and this is how it works and what it means. I also hold a Degree in Law.
Your "definition" of escrow is asymmetric in your favour. Don't absue the words Escrow in this way. Also don't blame it on poor language as you clearly understand how to construct the deal in your favour.
The Escrow must hold both parts from both parties or control of both parts, or it's not an escrow.
And don't tarnish ANON136's rep of service with pejorative comments, to the effect thats a nice add on if you listen to your customer. You in RED loudly declared you could escrow and repeated it, then as soon as you got a real Escrow you attacked him, his clients and his service, when you realised you got what you asked for and you didn't like it
If you can do the maths and logic well enough to write new code in c++11, then you can easily work out proportions or stake from Anon136 information, he is even setting up a spread sheet.
Of course no coins will be released to you for a "beta" as in test net coins or similar but only once the live working system is released with real exo coins that can not be voided by you or anyone else.
See even after escrow, the risk is you protocol fails and everyone loses their exo's, but we know the LTC and BTC protocols mean that they can't be clawed back
+1 - this how it should conduct to be called a real escrow, otherwise it's just a collection fund to be released by Anon.
Hello all together,
We can understand what jubalix (and others) are saying.
Thank you all for staying friendly.
We are going to provide "real" escrows with Anon (so that we will send our EXO to Anon and he will send his BTC to us). We will accept this if we can do it in batches of some BTC. But therefore I need a clear ok from Anon that he will be ok with this "real" escrow + batch execution. As for other escrow providers we cannot do this at the moment. They have to support it. So if you want to use something else and want a "real" escrow then please ask the service provider to contact us. If they are going to support this way we will accept it then as well.
Hope that is ok to everyone now? Please wait for an OK from Anon first!
as for the investments and PMs please hold on...
Great！ You got a big + from me.
February 21, 2014, 06:26:55 AM
1.5BTC send to 1CdK3k3kgyn8rhhUihcF1ZpFmwmzFLai6Y
transaction ID (TXID):
abccfb0b11aeebbd39b02267b22c3c77e4354f8106140cd3d99a7536b6ecbe2a
email address:
[email protected]
username:
cnaiguozhe
Thanks!
transaction ID (TXID):
abccfb0b11aeebbd39b02267b22c3c77e4354f8106140cd3d99a7536b6ecbe2a
email address:
[email protected]
username:
cnaiguozhe
Thanks!
February 21, 2014, 06:18:19 AM
How much eXocoin will I get if I invest 0.2 Btc for example?
I don't need exact numbers, but just a rough estimate is fine.
I don't need exact numbers, but just a rough estimate is fine.
February 21, 2014, 06:14:19 AM
0.15BTC is sent
TXid :e71f8a878bc9d74a6a04e6811bba478459d1aae55d3bdd4d7065b79d7b1c624d
https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/e71f8a878bc9d74a6a04e6811bba478459d1aae55d3bdd4d7065b79d7b1c624d
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email address has PM to you
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TXid :e71f8a878bc9d74a6a04e6811bba478459d1aae55d3bdd4d7065b79d7b1c624d
https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/e71f8a878bc9d74a6a04e6811bba478459d1aae55d3bdd4d7065b79d7b1c624d
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email address has PM to you
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February 21, 2014, 06:13:13 AM
as already answered (ok there are quite some pages now, do not want to blame you) you will have to release the funds one day before the official LAUNCH. so you can participate in an open beta before. You will see within the whitepaper that there are some technical details that do not match the bitcoin protocol at all. Please wait for the whitepaper (23rd february). Of course you can invest after the release if it is too suspicious for you now. It is up to you.
I'm strongly in favor for you to release some screenshots or code segments with the whitepaper, so the community could judge for itself whether it's a real project, or yet another ruse.
yes!!!! Let's make eXo the biggest crypto!
February 21, 2014, 06:06:37 AM
Please don't bring in the hype, wait for tomorrow so I get more exos :p
February 21, 2014, 06:06:14 AM
A coin built with a new code a fair distribution of IPO what come`s next would be great.
February 21, 2014, 06:03:41 AM
eXo coin getting better by the minute! Props for the real escrow service
February 21, 2014, 06:01:52 AM
>>>YOUR REASON DOES NOT MAKE LOGICAL SENSE<<<<
Quote
The reason: the amount of EXO one investor will get on launch day depends on all investments that will be done till the end (propotional).
hang on a moment, you can calculate exactly how much to give on launch day. The Escrow, Anon, has the exact figures for what he has collected and from whom. You can calculate exactly on this basis. given this information
Then you can send the coins exo coins to either Anon or the people directly, as Anon can verify their contacts, and then the LTC / BTC can be released to you.
Even then if a person does not chose to have anon release the coins, he can send the portion back to you (minus his fee) and if exo is that good you will have no problem selling them at nice profit.
You have loudly stated on your first page you can use escrow, and escrow means at the very least the escrow holds both parts. There is no way an escrow can give BT/LTC out to you before you give out you coins. THATS NOT ESCROW. Look at it this way. Would you give your proportion away to people who simply pledge to give you coins after you give them exo....? Because thats what your asking people to do.
PS I deal in large complex Escrows for big $$$ and this is how it works and what it means. I also hold a Degree in Law.
Your "definition" of escrow is asymmetric in your favour. Don't absue the words Escrow in this way. Also don't blame it on poor language as you clearly understand how to construct the deal in your favour.
The Escrow must hold both parts from both parties or control of both parts, or it's not an escrow.
And don't tarnish ANON136's rep of service with pejorative comments, to the effect thats a nice add on if you listen to your customer. You in RED loudly declared you could escrow and repeated it, then as soon as you got a real Escrow you attacked him, his clients and his service, when you realised you got what you asked for and you didn't like it
If you can do the maths and logic well enough to write new code in c++11, then you can easily work out proportions or stake from Anon136 information, he is even setting up a spread sheet.
Of course no coins will be released to you for a "beta" as in test net coins or similar but only once the live working system is released with real exo coins that can not be voided by you or anyone else.
See even after escrow, the risk is you protocol fails and everyone loses their exo's, but we know the LTC and BTC protocols mean that they can't be clawed back
+1 - this how it should conduct to be called a real escrow, otherwise it's just a collection fund to be released by Anon.
Hello all together,
We can understand what jubalix (and others) are saying.
Thank you all for staying friendly.
We are going to provide "real" escrows with Anon (so that we will send our EXO to Anon and he will send his BTC to us). We will accept this if we can do it in batches of some BTC. But therefore I need a clear ok from Anon that he will be ok with this "real" escrow + batch execution. As for other escrow providers we cannot do this at the moment. They have to support it. So if you want to use something else and want a "real" escrow then please ask the service provider to contact us. If they are going to support this way we will accept it then as well.
Hope that is ok to everyone now? Please wait for an OK from Anon first!
as for the investments and PMs please hold on...
That sounds much fairer!
I just wanted it to be clear!
This gives legitimacy to your project, if you do it this way.
Note all people who escrow with Anon will have to OK the sending at the time EXO are given over to anon, and the EXO dev will be entitled to receive their EXO back if you don't ok.
February 21, 2014, 05:58:28 AM
as already answered (ok there are quite some pages now, do not want to blame you) you will have to release the funds one day before the official LAUNCH. so you can participate in an open beta before. You will see within the whitepaper that there are some technical details that do not match the bitcoin protocol at all. Please wait for the whitepaper (23rd february). Of course you can invest after the release if it is too suspicious for you now. It is up to you.
I'm strongly in favor for you to release some screenshots or code segments with the whitepaper, so the community could judge for itself whether it's a real project, or yet another ruse.
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