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Topic: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta - page 295. (Read 415654 times)

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>>>YOUR REASON DOES NOT MAKE LOGICAL SENSE<<<<
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The reason: the amount of EXO one investor will get on launch day depends on all investments that will be done till the end (propotional).


hang on a moment, you can calculate exactly how much to give on launch day. The Escrow, Anon, has the exact figures  for what he has collected and from whom. You can calculate exactly on this basis. given this information

Then you can send the coins exo coins to either Anon or the people directly, as Anon can verify their contacts, and then the LTC / BTC can be released to you.

Even then if a person does not chose to have anon release the coins, he can send the portion back to you (minus his fee) and if exo is that good you will have no problem selling them at nice profit.

You have loudly stated on your first page you can use escrow, and escrow means at the very least the escrow holds both parts. There is no way an escrow can give BT/LTC out to you before you give out you coins. THATS NOT ESCROW. Look at it this way. Would you give your proportion away to people who simply pledge to give you coins after you give them exo....? Because thats what your asking people to do.

PS I deal in large complex Escrows for big $$$ and this is how it works and what it means. I also hold a Degree in Law.

Your "definition" of escrow is asymmetric in your favour. Don't absue the words Escrow in this way. Also don't blame it on poor language as you clearly understand how to construct the deal in your favour.

The Escrow must hold both parts from both parties or control of both parts, or it's not an escrow.

And don't tarnish ANON136's rep of service with pejorative comments, to the effect thats a nice add on if you listen to your customer. You in RED loudly declared you could escrow and repeated it, then as soon as you got a real Escrow you attacked him, his clients and his service, when you realised you got what you asked for and you didn't like it

If you can do the maths and logic well enough to write new code in c++11, then you can easily work out proportions or stake from Anon136 information, he is even setting up a spread sheet.

Of course no coins will be released to you for a "beta" as in test net coins or similar  but only once the live working system is released with real exo coins that can not be voided by you or anyone else.

See even after escrow, the risk is you protocol fails and everyone loses their exo's, but we know the LTC and BTC protocols mean that they can't be clawed back

+1 - this how it should conduct to be called a real escrow, otherwise it's just a collection fund to be released by Anon.

Hello all together,
We can understand what jubalix (and others) are saying.
Thank you all for staying friendly.


We are going to provide "real" escrows with Anon (so that we will send our EXO to Anon and he will send his BTC to us). We will accept this if we can do it in batches of some BTC. But therefore I need a clear ok from Anon that he will be ok with this "real" escrow + batch execution. As for other escrow providers we cannot do this at the moment. They have to support it. So if you want to use something else and want a "real" escrow then please ask the service provider to contact us. If they are going to support this way we will accept it then as well.

Hope that is ok to everyone now? Please wait for an OK from Anon first!





as for the investments and PMs please hold on...
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as already answered (ok there are quite some pages now, do not want to blame you) you will have to release the funds one day before the official LAUNCH. so you can participate in an open beta before. You will see within the whitepaper that there are some technical details that do not match the bitcoin protocol at all. Please wait for the whitepaper (23rd february). Of course you can invest after the release if it is too suspicious for you now. It is up to you.

I'm strongly in favor for you to release some screenshots or code segments with the whitepaper, so the community could judge for itself whether it's a real project, or yet another ruse.
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>>>YOUR REASON DOES NOT MAKE LOGICAL SENSE<<<<
Quote
The reason: the amount of EXO one investor will get on launch day depends on all investments that will be done till the end (propotional).


hang on a moment, you can calculate exactly how much to give on launch day. The Escrow, Anon, has the exact figures  for what he has collected and from whom. You can calculate exactly on this basis. given this information

Then you can send the coins exo coins to either Anon or the people directly, as Anon can verify their contacts, and then the LTC / BTC can be released to you.

Even then if a person does not chose to have anon release the coins, he can send the portion back to you (minus his fee) and if exo is that good you will have no problem selling them at nice profit.

You have loudly stated on your first page you can use escrow, and escrow means at the very least the escrow holds both parts. There is no way an escrow can give BT/LTC out to you before you give out you coins. THATS NOT ESCROW. Look at it this way. Would you give your proportion away to people who simply pledge to give you coins after you give them exo....? Because thats what your asking people to do.

PS I deal in large complex Escrows for big $$$ and this is how it works and what it means. I also hold a Degree in Law.

Your "definition" of escrow is asymmetric in your favour. Don't absue the words Escrow in this way. Also don't blame it on poor language as you clearly understand how to construct the deal in your favour.

The Escrow must hold both parts from both parties or control of both parts, or it's not an escrow.

And don't tarnish ANON136's rep of service with pejorative comments, to the effect thats a nice add on if you listen to your customer. You in RED loudly declared you could escrow and repeated it, then as soon as you got a real Escrow you attacked him, his clients and his service, when you realised you got what you asked for and you didn't like it

If you can do the maths and logic well enough to write new code in c++11, then you can easily work out proportions or stake from Anon136 information, he is even setting up a spread sheet.

Of course no coins will be released to you for a "beta" as in test net coins or similar  but only once the live working system is released with real exo coins that can not be voided by you or anyone else.

See even after escrow, the risk is you protocol fails and everyone loses their exo's, but we know the LTC and BTC protocols mean that they can't be clawed back

+1 - this how it should conduct to be called a real escrow, otherwise it's just a collection fund to be released by Anon.
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Looking good,Im in on this 1
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Devs, I think you should think about the above suggestions.

You know, previously, I doubted your quality in this thread and said I won't join in it.
Anyway, when Anon jumped in as an escrow, I'm back as I know my coins will be in a safe stage whatever happens to your project.
You can see, the investments increase greatly after Ason's in: from <5btc to > 30btc.
So let an escrow to be an escrow. You will gain more investments.

+1. much more investment will be gained with true escrow
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Reality is stranger than fiction
This will have a much fairer distribution, unlike NXT. +It's written in C++!!! What's better than C++? Nothing!

I feel that this coin might make something big in the cryptoworld. We'll see
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sr. member
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I agree and propose:

eXo should be sent out first, followed by Anon136 sending the escrowed BTC/LTC to the dev team.

that would also work and would be the mirror case to what exo is asking, but they won't like it.

though if Anon136 held both that would be fair to both parties.



Agreed, they could send each other's exos and btc/ltc in small amounts and progressively so that both ensure they won't get scammed by a huge margin anyway.
legendary
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Guys this will be so much bigger than NXT. Let's make it happen

Sarcasm much?
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By the way, imho eXo_coin should not have started the IPO before releasing the white paper plus actual insight into exocoin's development. Like you said,
No need to trust us 100% while we did nothing other than writing nice text!

Anyhow good luck with the project!
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Agree with above posts. If this is real then anon has stated who has given funds and how much has been given by each individual. As a result exo should release the coins first then anon can send over the investment.
legendary
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Reality is stranger than fiction
Guys this will be so much bigger than NXT. Let's make it happen
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@Anon: Is this you BTC adress for investment?
1J68eajnyueiLeYdaBUiVySFhPiwpafzmY

And can I send from my BTEr trading account?
legendary
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I agree and propose:

eXo should be sent out first, followed by Anon136 sending the escrowed BTC/LTC to the dev team.

that would also work and would be the mirror case to what exo is asking, but they won't like it.

though if Anon136 held both that would be fair to both parties.

hero member
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Devs, I think you should think about the above suggestions.

You know, previously, I doubted your quality in this thread and said I won't join in it.
Anyway, when Anon jumped in as an escrow, I'm back as I know my coins will be in a safe stage whatever happens to your project.
You can see, the investments increase greatly after Ason's in: from <5btc to > 30btc.
So let an escrow to be an escrow. You will gain more investments.
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