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wasserman99

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Dank Frank and XbladeX, we offer a plan to the escrow, where we'd pay the signature bounties and was not accepted. After release the wallet and spends more funds we need to know where we are, we need to have an agreement with the escrow, we can not work blindly. And yes, you'll be able to ask your refund if you invest in the second phase since most likely to happen is this:

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We simply want to reach an agreement with the escrow to know how they will release the funds. But since we do not reach an agreement, we offered to make a refund to everyone who wants to leave the project and released the remaining funds after we release the wallet, make the distribution and hit an exchange.

Regards

Dank Frank

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Quote from: XbladeX on September 01, 2016, 08:57:49 AM

Quote from: kooke on September 01, 2016, 08:02:53 AM

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Yes i agreed too, but remember that the first wallet will be a normal qt wallet, they said that need a few months of works before the release of the new platform. Its normal, all the big projects take months after the ico before they launch the platform. I will add a point:
.....
Good health to Opair!

woot ? while in main thread is:

"We estimate that we will have the first public Beta two weeks after we finish distributing the ICO"

I don't want wallet-qt from any alt coin creator for 0.1BTC and give those guys 40% of escrow money.
7 BTC of bounties can be paid from 65BTC from 1st page there is no problem in that.
33 000$ is anogth to bring some beta wallet to prove that devs are real devs and this is not puppet show.

If they deliver price will sky-rocket if they don't that will be another failed scam.

Exactly! They've done nothing through the ICO period to take any doubts away and now the ICO is over it seems they are looking for a quick way to release the escrow funds.

Can I just pm SJ with a signed message of one of my addresses I deposit with to get a refund? Or how does this work?

XbladeX

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Quote from: kooke on September 01, 2016, 08:02:53 AM

....
Yes i agreed too, but remember that the first wallet will be a normal qt wallet, they said that need a few months of works before the release of the new platform. Its normal, all the big projects take months after the ico before they launch the platform. I will add a point:
.....
Good health to Opair!

woot ? while in main thread is:

"We estimate that we will have the first public Beta two weeks after we finish distributing the ICO"

I don't want wallet-qt from any alt coin creator for 0.1BTC and give those guys 40% of escrow money.
7 BTC of bounties can be paid from 65BTC from 1st page there is no problem in that.
33 000$ is anogth to bring some beta wallet to prove that devs are real devs and this is not puppet show.

If they deliver price will sky-rocket if they don't that will be another failed scam.

Dank Frank

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Quote from: wasserman99 on September 01, 2016, 08:41:21 AM

Quote from: kooke on September 01, 2016, 08:02:53 AM

Quote from: BigWait on September 01, 2016, 07:55:01 AM

Quote from: tomsmith26 on September 01, 2016, 07:53:58 AM

I want to talk about the agreement between SJ and wasserman99
in my view:
1/ we need to release beta wallet and distributing xpo coins for all investors after then SJ will release funds (40% of escrow amount)to the project running .
2/ after funds released , wasserman99 should have information about listing exchanges (such as bittrex, polo, ect...) and we must have some talks on slack with presence of CEO Frank and HAO so that all investors need to be known about the legit project . this fact will clear all doubts from investors and it can bring back more funds for the project .
3/ finally the rest of escrow funds will be released to the project .

We should not let the project run slowly and it will effect all investors . They have to pay money for this project so no reasons to pause the process because of this problem

Regards,

agreed for it
it will the best

Yes i agreed too, but remember that the first wallet will be a normal qt wallet, they said that need a few months of works before the release of the new platform. Its normal, all the big projects take months after the ico before they launch the platform. I will add a point:

1/ we need to release beta wallet and distributing xpo coins for all investors after then SJ will release funds (40% of escrow amount) to the project running .
2/ SJ sent 7 btc to Lutpin to pay the signature campaign.
3/ after funds released , wasserman99 should have information about listing exchanges (such as bittrex, polo, ect...) and we must have some talks on slack with presence of CEO Frank and HAO so that all investors need to be known about the legit project . this fact will clear all doubts from investors and it can bring back more funds for the project .
4/ finally the rest of escrow funds will be released to the project .

Good health to Opair!

I agree with this, but remembet as kooke said, that the wallet will be a qt normal wallet, the beta version will come after some weeks, so this would be:

1/ we need to release the first wallet and distributing xpo coins for all investors after then SJ will release funds (40% of escrow amount)to the project running .
2/ SJ sent 7 btc to Lutpin to pay the signature campaign.
3/ after funds released , wasserman99 should have information about listing exchanges (such as bittrex, polo, ect...) and we must have some talks on slack with presence of CEO Frank and HAO so that all investors need to be known about the legit project . this fact will clear all doubts from investors and it can bring back more funds for the project.
4/ We release the beta wallet.
5/ finally the rest of escrow funds will be released to the project.

But before we sent a plan like this to sebastianju and he dont accept the plan, so he propose the refunds period and he release the remaining after that.

There is more then enough coin from 1st phase in your wallet to pay for bounties, all this makes me trust you guys even less. SJ should not agree to this.

tomsmith26

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Quote from: kooke on September 01, 2016, 08:02:53 AM

Quote from: BigWait on September 01, 2016, 07:55:01 AM

Quote from: tomsmith26 on September 01, 2016, 07:53:58 AM

I want to talk about the agreement between SJ and wasserman99
in my view:
1/ we need to release beta wallet and distributing xpo coins for all investors after then SJ will release funds (40% of escrow amount)to the project running .
2/ after funds released , wasserman99 should have information about listing exchanges (such as bittrex, polo, ect...) and we must have some talks on slack with presence of CEO Frank and HAO so that all investors need to be known about the legit project . this fact will clear all doubts from investors and it can bring back more funds for the project .
3/ finally the rest of escrow funds will be released to the project .

We should not let the project run slowly and it will effect all investors . They have to pay money for this project so no reasons to pause the process because of this problem

Regards,

agreed for it
it will the best

Yes i agreed too, but remember that the first wallet will be a normal qt wallet, they said that need a few months of works before the release of the new platform. Its normal, all the big projects take months after the ico before they launch the platform. I will add a point:

1/ we need to release beta wallet and distributing xpo coins for all investors after then SJ will release funds (40% of escrow amount)to the project running .
2/ SJ sent 7 btc to Lutpin to pay the signature campaign.
3/ after funds released , wasserman99 should have information about listing exchanges (such as bittrex, polo, ect...) and we must have some talks on slack with presence of CEO Frank and HAO so that all investors need to be known about the legit project . this fact will clear all doubts from investors and it can bring back more funds for the project .
4/ finally the rest of escrow funds will be released to the project .

Good health to Opair!

Yes , I agree this . Thanks

wasserman99

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Quote from: kooke on September 01, 2016, 08:02:53 AM

Quote from: BigWait on September 01, 2016, 07:55:01 AM

Quote from: tomsmith26 on September 01, 2016, 07:53:58 AM

I want to talk about the agreement between SJ and wasserman99
in my view:
1/ we need to release beta wallet and distributing xpo coins for all investors after then SJ will release funds (40% of escrow amount)to the project running .
2/ after funds released , wasserman99 should have information about listing exchanges (such as bittrex, polo, ect...) and we must have some talks on slack with presence of CEO Frank and HAO so that all investors need to be known about the legit project . this fact will clear all doubts from investors and it can bring back more funds for the project .
3/ finally the rest of escrow funds will be released to the project .

We should not let the project run slowly and it will effect all investors . They have to pay money for this project so no reasons to pause the process because of this problem

Regards,

agreed for it
it will the best

Yes i agreed too, but remember that the first wallet will be a normal qt wallet, they said that need a few months of works before the release of the new platform. Its normal, all the big projects take months after the ico before they launch the platform. I will add a point:

1/ we need to release beta wallet and distributing xpo coins for all investors after then SJ will release funds (40% of escrow amount) to the project running .
2/ SJ sent 7 btc to Lutpin to pay the signature campaign.
3/ after funds released , wasserman99 should have information about listing exchanges (such as bittrex, polo, ect...) and we must have some talks on slack with presence of CEO Frank and HAO so that all investors need to be known about the legit project . this fact will clear all doubts from investors and it can bring back more funds for the project .
4/ finally the rest of escrow funds will be released to the project .

Good health to Opair!

I agree with this, but remembet as kooke said, that the wallet will be a qt normal wallet, the beta version will come after some weeks, so this would be:

1/ we need to release the first wallet and distributing xpo coins for all investors after then SJ will release funds (40% of escrow amount)to the project running .
2/ SJ sent 7 btc to Lutpin to pay the signature campaign.
3/ after funds released , wasserman99 should have information about listing exchanges (such as bittrex, polo, ect...) and we must have some talks on slack with presence of CEO Frank and HAO so that all investors need to be known about the legit project . this fact will clear all doubts from investors and it can bring back more funds for the project.
4/ We release the beta wallet.
5/ finally the rest of escrow funds will be released to the project.

But before we sent a plan like this to sebastianju and he dont accept the plan, so he propose the refunds period and he release the remaining after that.

vasdav

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Quote from: looking4thegrail on September 01, 2016, 08:14:47 AM

Quote from: 3HATOK on September 01, 2016, 02:24:50 AM

My proposal:

We give everyone 1 week to return their investments. This people must send PM to sebastianju.

In a 2 weeks dev must:
1) pay bounties
2) launch wallet
3) distribute all coins
4) listed coins on bittrex
5) set code on github
6) launch beta version

After that sebastianju will pay 40%.
After month, if everything will be ok, sebastianju will pay remaining 60%.
What you say guys?

PS
sorry for my english

If dev agrees to this, I don't see anyone disagreeing.

sebastianju & wasserman, do you agree?

trademark

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Quote from: kooke on September 01, 2016, 08:09:07 AM

@trademark or maybe because wasserman is in charge of the marketing/communication in the project. Even if frank wrote in the thread would not be enough for some users because they do not believe it's him as it did before. I have to search, but in the past he wrote a statement here with his user.

That's why they need to confirm their identities with Sebastian before he releases any funds. If they do not exist, the project is a scam and will not be completed.

YIz

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Quote from: kooke on September 01, 2016, 08:09:07 AM

@trademark or maybe because wasserman is in charge of the marketing/communication in the project. Even if frank wrote in the thread would not be enough for some users because they do not believe it's him as it did before. I have to search, but in the past he wrote a statement here with his user.

His user is a newbie account with one post, what does it prove?

looking4thegrail

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Quote from: 3HATOK on September 01, 2016, 02:24:50 AM

My proposal:

We give everyone 1 week to return their investments. This people must send PM to sebastianju.

In a 2 weeks dev must:
1) pay bounties
2) launch wallet
3) distribute all coins
4) listed coins on bittrex
5) set code on github
6) launch beta version

After that sebastianju will pay 40%.
After month, if everything will be ok, sebastianju will pay remaining 60%.
What you say guys?

PS
sorry for my english

If dev agrees to this, I don't see anyone disagreeing.

kooke

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@trademark or maybe because wasserman is in charge of the marketing/communication in the project. Even if frank wrote in the thread would not be enough for some users because they do not believe it's him as it did before. I have to search, but in the past he wrote a statement here with his user.

kooke

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Quote from: BigWait on September 01, 2016, 07:55:01 AM

Quote from: tomsmith26 on September 01, 2016, 07:53:58 AM

I want to talk about the agreement between SJ and wasserman99
in my view:
1/ we need to release beta wallet and distributing xpo coins for all investors after then SJ will release funds (40% of escrow amount)to the project running .
2/ after funds released , wasserman99 should have information about listing exchanges (such as bittrex, polo, ect...) and we must have some talks on slack with presence of CEO Frank and HAO so that all investors need to be known about the legit project . this fact will clear all doubts from investors and it can bring back more funds for the project .
3/ finally the rest of escrow funds will be released to the project .

We should not let the project run slowly and it will effect all investors . They have to pay money for this project so no reasons to pause the process because of this problem

Regards,

agreed for it
it will the best

Yes i agreed too, but remember that the first wallet will be a normal qt wallet, they said that need a few months of works before the release of the new platform. Its normal, all the big projects take months after the ico before they launch the platform. I will add a point:

1/ we need to release beta wallet and distributing xpo coins for all investors after then SJ will release funds (40% of escrow amount)to the project running .
2/ SJ sent 7 btc to Lutpin to pay the signature campaign.
3/ after funds released , wasserman99 should have information about listing exchanges (such as bittrex, polo, ect...) and we must have some talks on slack with presence of CEO Frank and HAO so that all investors need to be known about the legit project . this fact will clear all doubts from investors and it can bring back more funds for the project .
4/ finally the rest of escrow funds will be released to the project .

Good health to Opair!

trademark

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Quote from: BigWait on September 01, 2016, 07:47:58 AM

have a question
why 2 devs doesn't use bitcointalk and reply this?

Probably because they are fictional characters. Sebastian should have them contact him and confirm their identity before releasing the ICO.

BigWait

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Quote from: tomsmith26 on September 01, 2016, 07:53:58 AM

I want to talk about the agreement between SJ and wasserman99
in my view:
1/ we need to release beta wallet and distributing xpo coins for all investors after then SJ will release funds (40% of escrow amount)to the project running .
2/ after funds released , wasserman99 should have information about listing exchanges (such as bittrex, polo, ect...) and we must have some talks on slack with presence of CEO Frank and HAO so that all investors need to be known about the legit project . this fact will clear all doubts from investors and it can bring back more funds for the project .
3/ finally the rest of escrow funds will be released to the project .

We should not let the project run slowly and it will effect all investors . They have to pay money for this project so no reasons to pause the process because of this problem

Regards,

agreed for it
it will the best

tomsmith26

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I want to talk about the agreement between SJ and wasserman99
in my view:
1/ we need to release beta wallet and distributing xpo coins for all investors after then SJ will release funds (40% of escrow amount)to the project running .
2/ after funds released , wasserman99 should have information about listing exchanges (such as bittrex, polo, ect...) and we must have some talks on slack with presence of CEO Frank and HAO so that all investors need to be known about the legit project . this fact will clear all doubts from investors and it can bring back more funds for the project .
3/ finally the rest of escrow funds will be released to the project .

We should not let the project run slowly and it will effect all investors . They have to pay money for this project so no reasons to pause the process because of this problem

Regards,

BigWait

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Quote from: placebo on September 01, 2016, 07:49:00 AM

Quote from: Dank Frank on September 01, 2016, 07:43:04 AM

Time to pay up the signature bounties, the majority of addresses is already known, it is a BS story that this should come from escrow.
Escrow should hold the funds untill the full wallet is released and not some cheap beta version and the coin should be added to exchanges there is more then enough btc for that, most ICO devs do this work for free why is that not here the case?

Sebastian can pay those bounties also directly from ICO money... but they have A LOT of BTCs that are not in hands on Sebastian, so it is time that they take this project seriously or I will ask for a refund here.

it is big question why 60BTCS not enough to used.
have nothing code things(github).

placebo

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Quote from: Dank Frank on September 01, 2016, 07:43:04 AM

Time to pay up the signature bounties, the majority of addresses is already known, it is a BS story that this should come from escrow.
Escrow should hold the funds untill the full wallet is released and not some cheap beta version and the coin should be added to exchanges there is more then enough btc for that, most ICO devs do this work for free why is that not here the case?

Sebastian can pay those bounties also directly from ICO money... but they have A LOT of BTCs that are not in hands on Sebastian, so it is time that they take this project seriously or I will ask for a refund here.

BigWait

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have a question
why 2 devs doesn't use bitcointalk and reply this?

kooke

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Another comment from the slack:

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cmtzco [9:35 AM]
I find it entertaining to see this happen with many ICOs. People go all in or even half in on some ICO they think is cool or some ICO they think will bank them sick money and they are all hyped about it. The second things get rough for the dev team or something seems off the investors flip. I'm not sure they understand that investing is pure risk and if you arent willing to lose all or part of your investment then theres really no point in putting money on the asset. Sure i get it the developers promised some awesome feature here or there but as a consumer/investor one must understand that things change. No single project out there was everything it ever intended to be.

[9:36]
Personally I'm excited to see the debit card become a thing because that will put OPAIR light years ahead of any other alt and maybe even btc since they dont officially have a debit card(being that all the debit cards are off of 3rd parties)

[9:36]
If I can be of any assistance to the project that would be even cooler :slightly_smiling_face:

@Dank Frank, please READ my last message!!!!!!, you will find your answers.

Dank Frank

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Time to pay up the signature bounties, the majority of addresses is already known, it is a BS story that this should come from escrow.
Escrow should hold the funds untill the full wallet is released and not some cheap beta version and the coin should be added to exchanges there is more then enough btc for that, most ICO devs do this work for free why is that not here the case?

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