Topic: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread - page 14. (Read 17411 times)

If you don't have arguments wasserman, than you start to delete postings.

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It's a shame, that people fake something.

Me too, you wrote "Even though we have not reached them yet, we plan to do so shortly to discuss our project and as soon as we have some information we will post it. "

There is not written: "A valid option would be, if we have enough money, blablabla..." ok? There is written shortly, to discuss. And since the start of the ICO you even didn't tried.

And more I didn't told. But it is shady enough.


My proof is an email and a telephone chat with Mr. Winheller. Both I can't publish here, but in comparison to you, Frank or Hao I am not anoymous. You can sue me easily in each German court and then we can ask Mr. Winheller as a witness.
Very stupid decision, because now 35%-50% of all collected BTC will be taxed away forever!



Yes, now 50 BTC are in taxes, clever decision: Instead of asking first, how much the legal fees are (minimum ca. 10 BTC) you waste minium 50 BTC.
I have approx. 12 cryptocoin related projects, which I support. With which you think you can conquer?

As I already wrote, it is of course suspicious, if someone refuse free legal support. No one need to have me as a legal adviser. And it isn't rare, that I send people to a third person, because their project need another support or even just a cheaper tax consultant would be enough.

But in your position (not knowing how much you raise and no legal orientation) it is really strange that you refuse support in such an early stage of contact.

Please read carefully! Frank(!) never replied to me. On https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/opair-statement-frank-h-rettig?trk=prof-post he wrote "Bei weiteren Fragen können Sie mich gerne per E-Mail kontaktieren."

This i did according to this: "Contact me at [email protected] for more information." And I never got a reply from him(!)



Hahaha, what it will proof? That you can use a text editor, that all.

No, I was supporting this project from the beginning, with offering support, with doing research, with offering a confidental video chat for free.

But I want to "kill" is the illusion, there is this specific Frank H. Rettig.

It is so difficult to fake linkedin profiles? Because I can't see other preparation. Shitty marketing campagne and not a single line of code in github.



Onecoin also had a debit card. Maybe it isn't the only mutual thing between you and Onecoin.
Which reason? I mean reason not excuse or pretext. If Frank already posted his real identity on linkedin, he will not harm himself by confirming this identity in a video chat of 10min.

From the view of all this people, which money you want, it make it better. Because this video call can destroy the clear hints that there is a lot of fake in this ICO. And where is fake there is very often scam.

Your choice already, your ICO is already near death. Even before my post. I just want to protect some more inexperienced users.

No one stops you working. Go, sit in front of your pc and code. But stop lure money from innocent people with lies.


He is escrower not arbitrator. This different you already didn't understand, when I made escrow for lisk. His duty is not to make quality control. And there is no clear description, no milestones and no rules how much money you will get for which feature. And already now you start by if you will not get enough money, you will skip parts of the project. What is understandable, but absolutly not handable by Sebastian.

A bit because...


...this is not true. Just 5-10 BTC will be refunded, for the rest you don't offer escrow. This is shady for me. If you really want to deliver, you will get the money anyway.

Ah yes, because of "the terms have been set at the beginning". Sorry, but stop thinking you can fool adult people with such pretext. You already plan to change you own set rules by paying BTC for the campagne. So the rules are just holy for you as long it is profitable for you.

Aha, why not to refund. I don't see how you want to realise debit cards with so less money, because the external cost of this project will be higher. And even for smart contracts you need legal support. Not forgetting, that because of your clever preparation of this ICO, you will make a direct donation to the tax office about 35% to 50% of the whole BTC.

BTW., you and Frank still have the option to solve everything. How? A lot of people showed you already. I will have no porblems to write here, that I made wrong conclusions, if my conclusions are not fitting to the reality.

And I am still offering you legal/tax support boost for free. It will be difficult to solve this 35%-50% tax problem and now I don't recommend you a gGmbh or other charitable organisation, because the money is already taxed, but maybe there is still some hope to minimise the damage or at least.

... or at least answer an email, as he promised!

I liked to project, pity.

In case it will be deleted in the moderated thread:


Very simple, because they are not existing. I became suspicious, when opair refused my free support for smart contracts. I am maybe one of 3 German lawyers, which work on this topic. It is really not logical to refuse such a contact (more I didn't ask for).

Frank Rettig never replied to any of my email. Means, that nobody check this gmail-mailbox regulary.

I offered Opair a confidental videochat with Frank for free. He just need to come up, say hello, show his ID-Card. How this can influence his job? Is it illegal to make videochats in Germany or against labor law? Of course not. How this can harm his job more, when he already made his picture, name and everything else public via linkedin. So, it is pretty clear, that there is something wrong. My conclusion is, that the profiles on linkedin are wrong.

I contacted my colleague, Mr. Winheller about Opair. Wasserman wrote, they want to work with this lawyers and trying to contact them. Mr. Winheller wrote me, that they didn't contact him or one of his colleagues. Since one month Opair is not able to contact a law firm. I think they don't want. This is the same fake like the linkedin profiles.

Wasserman all the time repeat, that the terms "Frank and Hao will not provide more information" have been clear from the beginning. But the linkedin profiles and that they are true are also a part of this terms. So if wasserman can break his own terms, than it is ridicolous to complain about to keep the others.

And I still don't see the marketing campain, which wasserman announced last week. If I would be Frank (and exist ;-) ) I would fire such a poor marketing director.

About the project: As a German lawyer, I can see that some of the aims of the project will be highly regulated by the Federal Agency of Financial Supervison (this will be similar in the whole Europe or USA). This will automatically lead, that Opair must provide an CEO, which have already worked several years in a leading position in the financial sector. I don't see such a person in the team.
And even if they put their whole money into legal support it won't be enough to pay the legal fees for what they want to do. From this point it is very clear, that this project will fail in this topics.

Conclusion: I think it is not really scam. But it looks for me, that Wasserman is alone and (sorry to tell this) a wannabe programmer, wannabe ceo and wannabe marketing dirctor, who knows that nobody would invest in him.

For all people (kooke), who are claiming, it doesn't matter, who is standing behind this project, just the result is important. Guys, do you really act like this in your daily life? Just give someone, whom you don't know, money and hoping, that the result will be nice? Do you really think, SebastianJu, who makes "just" escrow will make a qualitiy control of Wasserman's work?

If you think like that and have too much money, go on. But please don't lure others to follow your mistake, just because you still have some (irrational) hope left.

this opair really problem, i try good heart and very flexible, but failed, he may dont have good intention
i think you need to change the thread subject, to prevent him scam others

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I don't see why these investors gets to put money for this ICO when they don't really know these devs, they don't even put their real names on it, linkedin profiles aren't enough to convince who they are. they are now hiding even before the ICO ends.

Could be the same person, look it up and let us know.

 i accidentally found this, im dissapointed   it broke my heart
http://prntscr.com/c5ba0j and http://prntscr.com/c5bb1r please compare with this,  https://www.linkedin.com/in/haowangg check the job and university


its the same person is it?
http://www.fresnostate.edu/socialsciences/geography/faculty/wang.html


or maybe my eyes wrong?

im quoting you, as a purpose


Dear
wasserman, if you show your good will, and show webinar video such as this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/old-thread-rise-dpos-apps-dapps-1445947 <--- this is why RISE could gather 1700btc in one shot
because of this VIDEO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZqS5lc-Qg&feature=youtu.be&t=5m40s justin not hiding,
even though he is cheating and steal LISK project, we can see him have good intention to show him self to win investors heart

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and i will personally direct the community funding, which im managing as the amount of 30btc i will put to opair my self through sebastian, without any fuzz, or with few permissions, i could do even all whats left= 93btc trusted to me..,
(im one of whale in RISE only{not my money}; also backers of Stellar, Etherium Vitalik, and NXT especially Ardor)
also i will ask humanitarian community, to backs you
if we go in, we stay for years, we are not dumper, also we will help placing buywall, and help anything you need that we can help
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and more investment will come along the way (IF can still catch up the time, or, i will personally ask to extend the ICO, to give CLEAN headstart,
i will help marketing for FREE in ALL other currency website we support, i will be the one responsible to all your investors, because requesting extend the ICO)

kindly reconsider, we already so much interested, because you already show good intention using sebastian,
last part only simple meet and greet with me.. or you can meet my friend in germany, or what ever country you may be.. (we humanitarian is activist everywhere)

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to be fair i wil show all my identity, and can be view broadcast live
we want to help, i want to trust you

or, if you dont want to be public, please allow me doing video call privately with atleast 2 of founder from 3persons, Mr. Haowang + Mr.Waserman  + Mr.Frank
if i put the funds in, i will make other investor believe

this kooke guy is twisted, why would someone give funds to someone he dont even know if he even exist
atleast say hi, and greet on video chat/webinar,

my copy and paste

@kellendil. Leave that scam thing. People are greedy for anything, thats y they lose money. We must not worry for them. Let them worry. And Always do due diligence. Dont jump into the wagon for some freebies

thank you so much for caring, im still reading all

İ gave up because these idiots still believe him. HE didnt use escrow for the first part of his fucking scam İCO where 60 btc are located. Fucking scamming piece of shit.

The bumping stopped because wasserman used escrow for the ICO, but there are still more things we can discuss.