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Topic: [Pre-ANN] ThePirateBayCoin (TPB) +Torrents on the blockchain+Built in downloader - page 5. (Read 19620 times)

sr. member
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The Pope Of Dope
So I am asking the OP again, why you don´t get together with vTorrent to bundle your ressource?

Because vTorrent has already launched and they premined 3%. I think they are going about it all wrong. Why have standard pow mining in a torrent coin? I can build a better mousetrap than that. lol

shit you make mouse traps!?!?!?
coins arent meant to be mouse traps


Not literally of course. lol


k stay golden ponyboy Cheesy
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So I am asking the OP again, why you don´t get together with vTorrent to bundle your ressource?

Because vTorrent has already launched and they premined 3%. I think they are going about it all wrong. Why have standard pow mining in a torrent coin? I can build a better mousetrap than that. lol

shit you make mouse traps!?!?!?
coins arent meant to be mouse traps


Not literally of course. lol

sr. member
Activity: 627
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The Pope Of Dope
So I am asking the OP again, why you don´t get together with vTorrent to bundle your ressource?

Because vTorrent has already launched and they premined 3%. I think they are going about it all wrong. Why have standard pow mining in a torrent coin? I can build a better mousetrap than that. lol

shit you make mouse traps!?!?!?
coins arent meant to be mouse traps
hero member
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@kryptographer
So I am asking the OP again, why you don´t get together with vTorrent to bundle your ressource?

Because vTorrent has already launched and they premined 3%. I think they are going about it all wrong. Why have standard pow mining in a torrent coin? I can build a better mousetrap than that. lol

shit you make mouse traps!?!?!?
legendary
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My mule don't like people laughing
So I am asking the OP again, why you don´t get together with vTorrent to bundle your ressource?

Because vTorrent has already launched and they premined 3%. I think they are going about it all wrong. Why have standard pow mining in a torrent coin? I can build a better mousetrap than that. lol


Thats the spirit! Really happy to hear you say that. I think by building something like this it will attract other developers that are like minded. I wish I could help but I know nothing about coding. Maybe advertising your intentions in developer forums will get some others interested in this project and the development help you are looking for. I would be surprised if other devs here wouldn't want to contribute. There must be good people here, even if they are few.
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So I am asking the OP again, why you don´t get together with vTorrent to bundle your ressource?

Because vTorrent has already launched and they premined 3%. I think they are going about it all wrong. Why have standard pow mining in a torrent coin? I can build a better mousetrap than that. lol
hero member
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Coin for uploaders/seeders, so now its time to mine on seedboxes after hard-disks. Nice idea though.
legendary
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So I am asking the OP again, why you don´t get together with vTorrent to bundle your ressource?

I'm guessing probably the same reasons, Apple hasn't merged with Samsung to create a mega company that could easily dominate the world: individuality, different ways of thinking.
If you've got a clear vision of your goal, it is hard to make compromises.
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So I am asking the OP again, why you don´t get together with vTorrent to bundle your ressource?
sr. member
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please pm if you IPO i'm not around that much but would put a bet on that.

good luck.

Not planning on doing an IPO we are exploring other means of fundraising. Such as putting ads in the wallet, OP, and website. If you would like to buy adspace feel free to contact me.

thanks , finally a genuine project without ipo
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I really like this idea and will keep a close eye  Smiley
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Very intresting coin.

That is the key to success.
Do you plan on complete decentralization? Torrent links in the blockchain as well as comments? Now that would be cool.

I had a few thoughts already, you may have thought of these but what the hey.

1) no PoW or PoS. Make the coin pure PoU proof of upload.

2) The faster the upload speed the more coins are accumulated. Anyone seeding at 10kb/s will get dick all coins. The reward needs to scale to all uploads otherwise inflation may be a problem. I have no idea how you can track that.

3) most if not all downloads are free and pirated material (this is what everyone wants)

4) Only seeders and uploaders should get paid.

5) You don't need a torrent client in the coin. Just need to create a coin that has the .torrent links and tracks who does what and pays out appropriately.

6) Please NO IPO/Premine/dev block percentage or anything like that. Do it for the good of humanity and to fuck the PTB.


I think something like this will gain alot of attention if it can be launched fully working. Anything else will be treated as a scam and this will go nowhere. So, what say you dev? Are you serious about replacing Pirate Bay or just here to make some money?

BTW: has anyone thought of using ads to get dev funds? Something completely off the blockchain.
sr. member
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Please consider a bounty system for files people are looking for but currently unavailable.
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please pm if you IPO i'm not around that much but would put a bet on that.

good luck.

Not planning on doing an IPO we are exploring other means of fundraising. Such as putting ads in the wallet, OP, and website. If you would like to buy adspace feel free to contact me.
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please pm if you IPO i'm not around that much but would put a bet on that.

good luck.
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well I will be uploading a lot of stuff then Cheesy

however is there a way to prevent people from uploading or uploading the same movie over and over again just to get free coins ?

The system planned is either a tipping system, your torrent gets tipped and you get a stake in minted coins as long as it keeps getting tipped, or a voting system. Which isn't much different than a tip system. Your torrent gets so many votes you get a stake in minted coins. If you upload the same thing over and over your duplicates are unlikely to be tipped or voted on if you already put that file up. Empty/Bogus/Virus files wont get votes so wont be paid.

I can make this tipping system automated, when you download the magnet link from the blockchain your wallet automatically tips 0.00000001 coins to the address associated with the torrent. This means the more people download your torrent the more tips/votes you get, once it is above 20 or so tips/votes you get a stake in minted coins.

People can run sites dedicated to hosting comments on torrents or alternative voting or searching too.
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well I will be uploading a lot of stuff then Cheesy

however is there a way to prevent people from uploading or uploading the same movie over and over again just to get free coins ?
legendary
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Sounds great! Would be awesome if you could incorporate a reputation system for uploaders (maybe seeders too), it would be good to have an idea of the quality of the torrent we're paying for. It would also be pretty cool to have a way for users to request content. The possibilities here are mind-boggling. I am definitely following this one  Smiley

I dont think we should have to PAY for content that is already out there for free. When you start paying for shit that you can steal , you mind as well just buy the content in the first place

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I'm not saying you PAY for the content, just for the bandwidth usage, you are in essence paying for a fast download. Once you upload to 1:1 you get the coins you spent back.
Unless you download premium content, then the content creator gets paid. You can always make this back by seeding back over 1:1 to gain back the coin that you spend on the premium content. example, you download an independent film that is 1gb in size and costs 5TPB to download. downloading 1gb is going to cost 1TPB but once you seed back 1:1 you gain back 1TPB, once you seed back 6:1 you would make back your original 1TPB and an aditional 5TPB, gaining back what you spend to download the content in the first place. Keep in mind that the content creator can charge less than other services like itunes since they don't have to go through another organization that has huge overhead. This means you could see new release songs come out for 10 cents a download because that is still more than the artist would get selling it on itunes at 99 cents and having most of it taken by the studio and apple.



Looks like ill be rolling in the TPB coins.

But I see what your saying ObscureBean. Basically retention rate of files online. I think thats an age old issue with BT with older files. Alot of old files cannot simply be found because no one leaves their torrent client open with 1000's of files being seeded at the same time.
This is why emule, no doubt being much older, is still used today. It might take a week to grab that 2002 DvD, but someone has it and is sharing it.
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I'm not saying you PAY for the content, just for the bandwidth usage, you are in essence paying for a fast download. Once you upload to 1:1 you get the coins you spent back.
Unless you download premium content, then the content creator gets paid. You can always make this back by seeding back over 1:1 to gain back the coin that you spend on the premium content. example, you download an independent film that is 1gb in size and costs 5TPB to download. downloading 1gb is going to cost 1TPB but once you seed back 1:1 you gain back 1TPB, once you seed back 6:1 you would make back your original 1TPB and an aditional 5TPB, gaining back what you spend to download the content in the first place. Keep in mind that the content creator can charge less than other services like itunes since they don't have to go through another organization that has huge overhead. This means you could see new release songs come out for 10 cents a download because that is still more than the artist would get selling it on itunes at 99 cents and having most of it taken by the studio and apple.

This sounds like a really bad idea. First of all you're already going to have the government up your ass if you create this for free, but if you try to charge any money for it you'll really get taken down like Limewire or something. Also all these Bittorrent coins aren't going to matter compared to the one that finally does it 100% for free. If you run some sort of web portal where it makes it easier to navigate the torrents hidden in the blockchain or something you could serve ads on there and fund your dev costs that way. If you want this project to be truly worthy of The Pirate Bay moniker, build the first decentralized Pirate Bay that can't be taken down. That would be truly epic.

If you're talking about a decentralized P2P payment mechanism built into the protocol for artists and other entities to release premium content, that should be a backburner project until the blockchain torrent structure is implemented. At first it should just be barebones to get the concept up and running and sooner than you can blink you'll have the attention of the whole community interested in your project.
legendary
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The plan is a couple of months, I was just making an example in the OP. I'm not trying to give any hard deadlines yet as I'm still in the preliminary stages. I'm also not looking to start an ICO. I know I may run into walls, I love walls, I always come out the other side having learned something.  Wink I have a few people that have contacted me that want to help on the coin. I'm still looking for more people, I would like to make this a very big project with many people collaborating. I'm considering alternative forms of funding such as getting sponsors to pay for advertising in the OP or future website or hell even in the wallet itself. We can update it monthly and change out the ads or make the wallet pull ads from a central server. Cheesy No reason to pull funds from the users, thats what ads are for. Smiley


+100 (for no ICO)

Advertising sounds great (using wallet is OK for me) . Earning from this could be awesome. There is great possible demand.
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