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Maybe  Be cautious.

All that says is welcome to Via and explains a little of what it is 

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谢谢。

其实不用一直FUDs via的，比起很多垃圾币优秀多了。。

Via要独立建链，比合约币和mastercoin好多了，处处受限于btc的区块链。


我手里有几千个BTC。可以加我Q: 871961699

保持联系。 Grin


This is a pm from provenceday,a guy with thousands of btc .Quite interesting.Wish you guys good luck.I have nothing to say.You can translate it by yourself.
This guy have the ablity to send 400btc to his own wallet.This is what I get from the pm.
Totally chinese scam

I never catch the train that left the station.
And i will never accept any involvements in coins with so shady history.
Where are so many good (trully opened) alternatives around in present time... So, good luck, via. Me passed.

The Story of Viacoin
If there is something I have learned over the years, it’s that innovation is incremental and good ideas are usually built on the shoulders of existing, well tested and proven technologies. Bitcoin is a good example of this, weaving well seasoned public key cryptography and other mathematical genius with peer to peer protocols, stack based programming languages and proof-of-work.

What makes Bitcoin brilliant is how it unites existing technologies to make something completely revolutionary.

It is also interesting to note how it takes a few stepping stones to get technology right. HashCash was not the solution for digital money, but without it coming first, maybe the next step of Bitcoin would not have been thought of.

I began taking Bitcoin seriously in April 2013 and in July/August 2013 I read J.R. Willett’s Mastercoin proposals where he suggested using blockchain timestamping in Bitcoin to embed data according to a new protocol which could be used to effectively create a new coin within a coin. I found this intriguing but had some technical objections and I was quite vocal during the debates, examples here and here.

Without getting too technical, there is a concept called ‘blockchain bloat’ and it’s quite a political problem within the Bitcoin developer space (because the definition is open to interpretation), and there are continuous efforts to reduce it.

By October I decided I was going to address my objections by creating my own solution. However, I got pretty caught up in other things and then the Bitcoin bull-run took my attention and I became quite well known in trading circles. Then in January alone came Counterparty, another protocol designed to embed a new Mastercoin like protocol in the Bitcoin blockchain. This attempt was in my opinion much better and further inspired me to pursue my original solution, since this was a confirmation I was on the right track, but my attention was still taken up by trading and there was so much more excitement to come with the China and MtGox for the next few months.

I liked Counterparty and it was pretty much what I had envisioned myself and they have run with the technology and spent a lot of time building it out but they still didn’t address my main objections, they it’s further confirmation of the concepts.

So what were my main objections? Firstly, Bitcoin was not designed to be a carrier pigeon and although it’s possible to encode data within normal Bitcoin transactions, there are a lot of political objections to it. This matters a lot because the people who contribute to Bitcoin development can, and has already done things that restrict the use of Bitcoin for these ‘non-standard’ purposes. There are arguably ways to encode data that cannot be blocked, but the real question is, how feasible is it to build a system like this on the back of Bitcoin when you have no idea if the next release of Bitcoin will outlaw your code.

Most recently for example, when Counterparty published their papers, they committed to using OP_RETURN based on 80 byte storage only to find Bitcoin 0.9.0 prevents relaying of transactions containing more than OP_RETURN of 40 bytes! Quite a nasty surprise!

So ask yourself, “is playing cat and mouse really a viable option for a smart protocol?” Bitcoin will definitely continue to play whack-a-mole against perceived blockchain abuse. Despite all the benefits of building on an existing, well established infrastructure, it’s simply not safe to do so when that infrastructure can outlaw you at any time.

My next objection was a matter of speed. Bitcoin is terribly slow to confirm blocks. The target of 10 minutes is already too slow, and add variance and it gets a whole lot worse. And, 0-confirmation transactions are not safe as has been demonstrated (as they can be double spent). Who hasn’t found themselves waiting an hour at least once, just to get a single confirmation? That kind of latency makes it pretty useless if you wanted to run a decentralized exchange on top of the protocol.

It was clear as day to me from the beginning, that any such endeavour requires a separate blockchain that was not only faster, but friendly to the data embedding methodology. Namecoin chose this path for example to build out a decentralised domain registration system. But unfortunately, it seems some people have an almost religious conviction that they must use the Bitcoin blockchain come what may.

When I saw the whole OP_RETURN debacle unfold I promised myself I would wait and watch to see what happened and if anyone would do the right thing or let their inflexibility hold them back. I waited, and since no-one filled the void, I decided I would take the plunge.

So here we are, Viacoin is my solution: it’s a currency and store of value in it’s own right (symbol VIA); and has fast blockchain, 25 times faster than Bitcoin and further speedups may be possible in the future by changing how the network synchronizes blocks. There are some interesting research paper on the matter.

The Viacoin blockchain is completely supportive of OP_RETURN data storage and will remain so. Since there is a already tried protocol, I have shelved mine and we will use Counterparty as our starting point for ClearingHouse. I believe this is the best way forward because we know it works already and will be very easy to get up and running. ClearingHouse will have it’s own internal currency, called XCH.

So the roadmap looks something like this:

Bootstrap Viacoin distribution by presale.
Launch the Viacoin network.
Build out viacoin services.
Launch ClearingHouse using proof based VIA to XCH conversion process.
Build out services
In summary, Viacoin and ClearingHouse have been a long time in the coming. I would like to have been first because, well that would have been a lot cooler. However, the fact other projects came along with similar concepts tells me it was a good idea. All ideas are incremental, so it’s not a matter “who thought of it first” because in the end, good technology and usable systems is what matters. I would particularly like to thank Namecoin developers who really started the ball rolling for alternative uses for blockchain storage, and to J.R. Willett and PhantomPhreak who really got the world thinking about the next steps after bitcoin.

ClearingHouse can go a lot further, to develop protocols for decentralized voting, identity and reputation management, setup and exchange of multisignature escrow, “blockchain notary” and a whole host of other applications.

As with all new things, this could all go wrong, but believe we are in a much better place than if we had been the pioneers because we know it’s possible, it’s just more a matter of the implementation details. Viacoin presale distribution has been designed to give an early adopter advantage similar to that of Bitcoin, with equal risk of failure. Ultimately the market will decide, but I think there has never been a more exciting time to be in crypto, than now.

Saamx, Viacoin is already well-known among altcoin traders since June. The reason everybody is quiet is because we/they want few buyers on the IPO so that we get more coins per share. BTCDrak is also well-known among traders. In fact, you can chat with him at IRC #coinmarkets

I'm sorry you missed out, but it will be sold openly on Bittrex soon as the network launches.

RE: 75BTC buyer - I'm sure he will sell his initial investment of 75BTC and then ride out the rest. The FUD attempts might actually be directed at him. But if you did your research, Viacoin is long-time coming. Blockchain technology is not only about currency. Viacoin addresses that need. READ READ READ.

If in 6-12 months Via is the new innovative top 3 crypto at $10 per Via then I will buy all the trolls and fudsters in this thread Viacoin shirts

wow so much wrong with this post, ICO was not hidden, it was open for 8 days and well advertised, PRICE EVERYONE paid was the SAME does not matter if you got in at the beginning or

the end of the ICO.

I have a suggestion:

A community decision that-

a. if within a month from launch, VIA = 60k satoshi    AND
b. an ICO investor HELD his coins in wallet,

THEN-
he gets a t-shirt with VIA logo on it, and signed by btcdrak. A collector's item  :-)

There are 495 buyers.
Assuming 300 will hold all coins, that's 300 t-shirts for the 'founding investors' that invested in the vision and not just the quick buck.
300 t-shirts would probably cost ~$15 each [including shipment] -

300 x $15 / (BTC$615 x 60k satoshi) = 12,195 VIA

I'll gladly contribute to this scheme.

1dollar=1 via is the starting price.

New step on premine. Hidden/silent IPO
Buying the most coins by itself(first step), then refer to last price  0,00006(second step) and put to pump&dump exchange (bittrex)(third step) = profit
The NXT, crypti, Sys and many others ipo's were/would much more fair, then your one.

If you have a real good product, why do not you sell it openly
There are two reasons - you haven't any good product or you have decided to release a coin with huge premine.

So there was a premine,then instamine. Now we have IPOmine

we believe Via is a competor with LTC. Truly Via is based LTC, But Via is better than LTC. Via also has some very promising features compared with other altcoins. Better read the article : the story of Viacoin.

Waah! With the money I make selling Viacoin at 500k sats. I'll just buy my own.

Sweet I could use a new tablet


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Listen, newbie traders

The FUD attempt is shallow. The coin isn't launched yet. Somebody missed out on the presale maybe on Coinbase so they're attempting shake out weak hands. Let's not reply to their FUD attempt.

Prepare to sell above 60k sats. Hold strong, good luck.

By the way, BTCDrak. Who won the iPad?
http://blog.viacoin.org/2014/06/06/win-an-ipad-nextus-tablet.html

I've been tweeting Viacoin since June.

haha I was just reading through his post history. Man he sure knows how to invest in and hype shitcoins.  Everything you're doing, do the opposite.

This is the problem I have with posts like this, you are quite happy to mine and support shit coins from newbie devs with zero activity but when someone active in the community with history steps up and tries to

produce a coin your all over it trying to spread FUD, if someone tries to say something you post something like that, like their opinion is worthless its quite easy to build up a high activity and post count if all your

saying is FUD so I would not judge someone by that.      

So once you "prove" the dev to be a scammer, what then? lol how boring and sad your life must be. Time to rethink your life priorities.

Sure I am quite patient and active .Prove dev a scammer is one of my interest. ;)See you guys later,keep away from puppet account.People easy to believe others it is not bad but also not good.

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