New ANN: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-wisp-wisp-anonymous-cryptocurrency-project-spectrecoin-fork-5039051
Topic: [PRE-ANN] Wisp Project [WISP] Alternative SpectreCoin wallet - Community driven (Read 2431 times)
September 29, 2018, 02:38:54 AM
Hello everybody, I am happy to announce that we have a new official ANN thread, as a successor to this PRE-ANN. This thread will be locked, please continue on the new thread, thanks.
New ANN: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-wisp-wisp-anonymous-cryptocurrency-project-spectrecoin-fork-5039051
New ANN: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-wisp-wisp-anonymous-cryptocurrency-project-spectrecoin-fork-5039051
August 22, 2018, 03:10:19 AM
Update: The XSPEC hardfork has happened smoothly. Now Wisp is running on the old Spectrecoin chain, every user who uses a Spectrecoin wallet before version 2.0 (1.4 and older) uses the chain that will be branded as WISP. An official announcement for this coin will follow after a independent Wisp wallet has been created by our volunteer community members. 
Please join our Discord if you want to get involved: https://discordapp.com/invite/2YUewTX
Please join our Discord if you want to get involved: https://discordapp.com/invite/2YUewTX
August 12, 2018, 02:33:38 AM
Unfortunately most of the founders of this project seem to be gone by now - VVC and HippiePyro (the two initiators) are gone, JBG is inactive. I am not the leader of this project, I'm just maintaining the ANN thread for the community.
If you are interested in making Wisp reality, please join our Discord NOW and figure out a way together how to continue. We are urgently looking for devs to release our own wallet so that it does not conflict with the new Spectrecoin wallet!
If you are interested in making Wisp reality, please join our Discord NOW and figure out a way together how to continue. We are urgently looking for devs to release our own wallet so that it does not conflict with the new Spectrecoin wallet!
July 28, 2018, 07:49:09 AM
For those of you who don't know what a hardfork is, here is a gentle introduction:
How does a blockchain work? -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSo_EIwHSd4
What is a hard fork? -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCo6yyutYAM
Wisp will keep the original protocol, and Spectrecoin will make a fork. Conversely, Spectrecoin will keep the original name (Spectrecoin), and Wisp will be named Wisp. They will be two independent coins, and the Spectrecoin balances will be copied so your funds are independently spendable on both chains.
Thanks @Luc for pointing this out.
How does a blockchain work? -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSo_EIwHSd4
What is a hard fork? -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCo6yyutYAM
Wisp will keep the original protocol, and Spectrecoin will make a fork. Conversely, Spectrecoin will keep the original name (Spectrecoin), and Wisp will be named Wisp. They will be two independent coins, and the Spectrecoin balances will be copied so your funds are independently spendable on both chains.
Thanks @Luc for pointing this out.
July 26, 2018, 07:33:27 AM
There is a new release of SpectreCoin on Github that implements the fork: https://github.com/spectrecoin/spectre/releases/tag/v2.0.3.0
The Wisp Project will NOT follow this fork. This means that the fork will happen on 21/08/2018, 22:00 GMT. Nodes that don't update their wallet to Spectre V2 will be running on the Wisp chain automatically. Note that you will be able to run both in parallel in the future, as soon as we have released a standalone Wisp wallet. Your balance at the time of the fork will be available on both chains.
Feel free to ask any further questions regarding the fork here. Or join our Discord (linked in the first post)
The Wisp Project will NOT follow this fork. This means that the fork will happen on 21/08/2018, 22:00 GMT. Nodes that don't update their wallet to Spectre V2 will be running on the Wisp chain automatically. Note that you will be able to run both in parallel in the future, as soon as we have released a standalone Wisp wallet. Your balance at the time of the fork will be available on both chains.
Feel free to ask any further questions regarding the fork here.
Or join our Discord (linked in the first post) July 08, 2018, 07:14:45 AM
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There have also been discussions about a possible blockchain fork. If the Spectrecoin team decides to implement a hardfork to enforce development fees via the protocol, the Wisp Project will NOT support that fork, meaning that Wisp and Spectrecoin would split into two independent projects, where Wisp will maintain the original protocol. The ticker for our side of the fork will be [WISP] then. More information will be added as things progress. Since this forum is about altcoins, this thread will remain a "PRE-ANN" until a blockchain fork happens.
As things are standing at the moment, Spectrecoin seems to be planning to do a hardfork indeed, and introduce a development fee of 1/6 of all staking rewards.
For more info, see: https://news.spectreproject.io/stealth-staking/
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The update to Spectre v2 is mandatory. This means that you must update to v2 to be able to stake or conduct transaction on the Spectre network after a certain date to be set. All previous versions of the wallet will be rejected by the network after this date. We will announce the exact date when the new wallet is ready to download from GitHub. In addition, we will implement a mechanism know as “replay protection” to prevent any transactions from being valid on the old blockchain and vice versa. This implementation is with Wisp in mind and will allow the Wisp community to continue working on the old version of the blockchain and develop a separate coin with their own design philosophy and goals. If the Wisp community takes this opportunity it will result in users being able to claim 1:1 balance of XSPEC / Wisp at the time when the update is activated.
Thanks @mandica and the Spectrecoin team for implementing replay protection in order to guarantee a smooth fork into two separate projects!
We are currently working together with the Spectrecoin developers and make sure that everything is correct, and to avoid disruptions between Spectre and Wisp.(P.S. This is my eleven-hundredth post, yay
) June 20, 2018, 07:31:09 AM
June 19, 2018, 07:46:49 PM
Heard that Bryce is almost done with the revolutionary stealth staking 
Retrospectively, I am so happy to have debunked jbg bullshit
look where he's working: https://www.triposo.com/about/team
working there also during the time when he was "full-time on xspec"
Retrospectively, I am so happy to have debunked jbg bullshit
look where he's working: https://www.triposo.com/about/team
working there also during the time when he was "full-time on xspec"
June 19, 2018, 02:41:50 AM
Why do you insist on forking a shitcoin?
Spectrecoin is not a shitcoin. It is a project with low resources, like many other projects in this size range. The technology is good, the team is motivated. I'm sure Spectrecoin will not stay this small forever. So as XSPEC has a bright future, it also needs a wallet that gives freedom to the users. It's just a matter of principle. If Spectrecoin wants to fork to integrate fees into the protocol, we will maintain the current protocol. It depends on what the Spectrecoin team is doing mainly.
Will the SpectreCoin holders receive your coin?
I'm glad that you decided to improve SpectreCoin, as I am an investor. I think your project can achieve success.
I'm glad that you decided to improve SpectreCoin, as I am an investor. I think your project can achieve success.
If there is a fork, your wallet.dat will be valid on both chains and you can spend funds on both chains independently from then.
June 18, 2018, 11:58:20 AM
Will the SpectreCoin holders receive your coin?
I'm glad that you decided to improve SpectreCoin, as I am an investor. I think your project can achieve success.
I'm glad that you decided to improve SpectreCoin, as I am an investor. I think your project can achieve success.
June 18, 2018, 11:49:08 AM
Why do you insist on forking a shitcoin?
June 18, 2018, 09:15:01 AM
It's important to understand how blockchain projects work. Forking or not forking is not a matter that does solely depend on a few people. It's a matter of consensus. We're just a group of people who have our own ideas and ideals of what Spectrecoin should be, and about how users should be treated. Whether a fork happens or not depends largely on the degree to which the official Spectrecoin team is trying to enforce development fees. This has nothing to do with our development effort or the size of the team, nor the size of the community. Right now there seem to be only a few people who see development fees as being a problem, but the situation might change in the future.
We're currently looking for a Qt developer who can spice up our copy of the Spectrecoin wallet a bit (changing logos etc.), but it doesn't really matter. What matters are the NODES that are run by the different parts of the Spectrecoin community, that run certain versions of the protocol.
We're currently looking for a Qt developer who can spice up our copy of the Spectrecoin wallet a bit (changing logos etc.), but it doesn't really matter. What matters are the NODES that are run by the different parts of the Spectrecoin community, that run certain versions of the protocol.
June 17, 2018, 04:09:41 AM
Blah blah blabberdieblah.
People please look at the timeline of wisp and the promises made, even a retard will see its toplevel bullshit.
And every time the same marketing propaganda is beeing spread "spectrecoin has forced donation".
Although the whole tree hugging enviromental save the world from big brother idea is actually not bad , it will never be.
You will keep hearing the same shit over and over again until youre stomach turns and you can feel the vomit coming up.
And offcourse i will be labeled a troll because that will be the end of the discussion.
USE YOURE MIND READ UP ON THIS PROJECT AND ESPECIALLY THE GREAT DEV JBG.
And then you will see it is a load of bs.
Invest youre money in things you can actually see or touch and dont be misled by lambo comments.
Goodluck and stay clear from wisp.
People please look at the timeline of wisp and the promises made, even a retard will see its toplevel bullshit.
And every time the same marketing propaganda is beeing spread "spectrecoin has forced donation".
Although the whole tree hugging enviromental save the world from big brother idea is actually not bad , it will never be.
You will keep hearing the same shit over and over again until youre stomach turns and you can feel the vomit coming up.
And offcourse i will be labeled a troll because that will be the end of the discussion.
USE YOURE MIND READ UP ON THIS PROJECT AND ESPECIALLY THE GREAT DEV JBG.
And then you will see it is a load of bs.
Invest youre money in things you can actually see or touch and dont be misled by lambo comments.
Goodluck and stay clear from wisp.
June 17, 2018, 02:50:18 AM
It looks like Spectrecoin is indeed going to implement forced development fees into the protocol: https://github.com/spectrecoin/spectre/pull/43
So that means, if this hardfork happens, Wisp would maintain the original SpectreCoin chain, so then there would be two independent chains. Wisp would be "Spectre Classic" so to say, as it is the version of the blockchain that does not change the protocol.
We believe that every user should have the freedom to decide on himself whether to donate money to a project or not. Nobody should be forced to give money away. Instead of hiring developers, Wisp is aiming to build a community of open source developers who work on improving the Wisp wallet.
If you are a developer, please join our Discord that is linked in the ANN.
So that means, if this hardfork happens, Wisp would maintain the original SpectreCoin chain, so then there would be two independent chains. Wisp would be "Spectre Classic" so to say, as it is the version of the blockchain that does not change the protocol.
We believe that every user should have the freedom to decide on himself whether to donate money to a project or not. Nobody should be forced to give money away. Instead of hiring developers, Wisp is aiming to build a community of open source developers who work on improving the Wisp wallet.
If you are a developer, please join our Discord that is linked in the ANN.
June 15, 2018, 07:24:52 PM
wisp short for:
Wait
Insanely long for
Shit that will never be
Produced
June 06, 2018, 06:05:37 PM
So, this is the fork of the Spectrecoin? The Spectre is one of the successful ICO in which the coin is now very valuable. Can Wisp Project follow the success?
June 06, 2018, 05:58:34 PM
Ya man, the last "WISP News" is complete bullshit and "technically incoherent"...
They simple do not even have the most basic Dev chops to do a trivial fork.
They simple do not even have the most basic Dev chops to do a trivial fork.
A "trivial fork" does not make any sense. A real blockchain fork is not something desirable, it is unfortunately necessary when there is a consensus disagreement within the community of users and developers of that project. For example when changing block sizes, making procedural protocol changes etc.. Many people have called for a fork even if they didn't know what it means. It always felt a little weird to me, and now I am happy that we were able to agree on going the rational path and not trying to split the blockchain artificially.
Instead, what is currently required is to provide an alternative to the wallet being produced by the official Spectrecoin team, since they are trying to force development fees from their users via the stake rewards, which is an alarming tendency. The Wisp Project now has a stronger foundation than ever, and we're continuing to develop Spectrecoin like originally envisioned. We hope that this alone will motivate the Spectrecoin team find more reasonable ways of collecting funding from their users, and we will always maintain the blockchain protocol that respects the freedom of its users.
June 06, 2018, 04:52:24 PM
You've got to be kidding me. 
footnote:
I'm on a new account because my original "legendary" one Ive had for many years was hacked and I immediately locked it...only to realize that BCT accounts can only be recovered if it includes a btC address to assist in recovery.
footnote:
I'm on a new account because my original "legendary" one Ive had for many years was hacked and I immediately locked it...only to realize that BCT accounts can only be recovered if it includes a btC address to assist in recovery.
Ya man, the last "WISP News" is complete bullshit and "technically incoherent"...
They simple do not even have the most basic Dev chops to do a trivial fork.
Gandolf always seemed like a standup guy...
So maybe he's being held hostage and suffering from Stockholm Syndrome...
And it's reassuring that realBeachGuy has has called home... from the beach, of course.
June 05, 2018, 01:03:20 PM
LOL. All these "updates" over the last month and a half and the end result is... nothing. Easy to see why the XSpec community grew tired of JBG, it's just one empty promise after another.
To be clear, I don't mind that there's no fork, since nobody had high hopes for WISP anyway, but since buying into XSpec in January I haven't seen JBG accomplish much of anything despite making promises several times. Maybe he shouldn't have been so defensive when he was called out, since the XSpec community continues to be proven correct.
Thanks for the updates Gandalf, truly, but even if XSpec does somehow fork, I can say confidently I will simply sell my WISP coins immediately.
To be clear, I don't mind that there's no fork, since nobody had high hopes for WISP anyway, but since buying into XSpec in January I haven't seen JBG accomplish much of anything despite making promises several times. Maybe he shouldn't have been so defensive when he was called out, since the XSpec community continues to be proven correct.
Thanks for the updates Gandalf, truly, but even if XSpec does somehow fork, I can say confidently I will simply sell my WISP coins immediately.
June 05, 2018, 08:56:00 AM
You've got to be kidding me.
footnote:
I'm on a new account because my original "legendary" one Ive had for many years was hacked and I immediately locked it...only to realize that BCT accounts can only be recovered if it includes a btC address to assist in recovery.
footnote:
I'm on a new account because my original "legendary" one Ive had for many years was hacked and I immediately locked it...only to realize that BCT accounts can only be recovered if it includes a btC address to assist in recovery.
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