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Topic: [PRE-ANN] Wisp Project [WISP] Alternative SpectreCoin wallet - Community driven - page 3. (Read 2431 times)

hero member
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Coin Mage
   Gandalf what community decided to make a fork? Do not tell a fairy tale. This was decided by Jbg and several people. The rest were not asked. What kind of community are you talking about. We were simply informed about this fact. Only a few people decided to make the fork.
I too old member community and i not saw no discussions about fork
   Fork - this is a good reason to waste time, so as not to rub the job that he promised. They came up with a false story about supposedly different code and so on ... one intentional lie in your wisp team. You know the truth and deliberately lie. There is no stealth staking and you know about it, just like I know about it. Do not deceive new people.
  jbg took much money from donations, but not gave results and refused to return money, as stealth staking didnt.

Sure there were a few individuals (HippiePyro, vvc, Trainasauruswrecks afaik) who decided to make a fork called Wisp, who were the initial members of the Wisp community. They invited jbg to join their project as things were getting out of hand between him and Mandica.

You can make as many conspiracy theories as you want, time will tell the results. This has already been discussed a thousand times.
member
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Did not do homework at XSPEC, now wants to continue receiving donations through WISP.

Wrong.

1. XSPEC/Wisp is not the "homework" of our developer, it's volunteer work. The fact that people donated money to him doesn't change that.
2. He did do work, all but the first wallet version are by him.
3. The fork was decided on by the Wisp community, not just by JBG.
   Gandalf what community decided to make a fork? Do not tell a fairy tale. This was decided by Jbg and several people. The rest were not asked. What kind of community are you talking about. We were simply informed about this fact. Only a few people decided to make the fork.
I too old member community and i not saw no discussions about fork
   Fork - this is a good reason to waste time, so as not to rub the job that he promised. They came up with a false story about supposedly different code and so on ... one intentional lie in your wisp team. You know the truth and deliberately lie. There is no stealth staking and you know about it, just like I know about it. Do not deceive new people.
  jbg took much money from donations, but not gave results and refused to return money, as stealth staking didnt.
hero member
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Coin Mage
Did not do homework at XSPEC, now wants to continue receiving donations through WISP.

Wrong.

1. XSPEC/Wisp is not the "homework" of our developer, it's volunteer work. The fact that people donated money to him doesn't change that.
2. He did do work, all but the first wallet version are by him.
3. The fork was decided on by the Wisp community, not just by JBG.
4. The donation feature in the wallet is optional, to make it easier for you to donate. You don't have to use it.
oxb
newbie
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Did not do homework at XSPEC, now wants to continue receiving donations through WISP.

Smart guy, totally right you are.
X4s
newbie
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Did not do homework at XSPEC, now wants to continue receiving donations through WISP.
hero member
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Coin Mage
With Wisp HFing in May why isn't there a functional website? https://wispproject.com/ does not appear to be.

We're currently figuring out the website thing. Technically a website isn't necessary to do a hardfork. If you are a web developer, feel free to join us!  Wink

Currently it seems like we will be using Github Pages + a custom domain to host the website, so that multiple contributors can work on it using Git.
newbie
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With Wisp HFing in May why isn't there a functional website? https://wispproject.com/ does not appear to be.
hero member
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Coin Mage
would be handy if this ANN had an Upvote function like Reddit for excample -  Nice to move away from the negative commentary in the previous thread

I for one am looking forward to WISP carrying on in the spirit of decentralised democratic private crypto-currency

to that end I want to ask dev's what exchange listing parameters they have in mind?
exchanges to list on ?

Decentralized
https://idex.market/
https://ddex.io/
https://forkdelta.github.io/

Community exchange (no listing fee)
 CoinPulse is the first crypto-currency exchange that is completely based around and supported by its community. Token holders will have a say in its majority of the decisions. Majority of the functions on CoinPulse have been included based on suggestions received from its community
https://coinpulse.io/ref/c32cbd498ac8fab30c04fe12b44a7a99
200 CPEX bonus for sign up which act like Binance Coin for 70% discount on trading fees

with this page we can propose listing and then upVOTE to show our support for it
https://request.coinpulse.io/suggestions/add
Please try to include as many details as possible.
Below is a list of suggested details:
General description of the project
Coin/Token's Website
Coin or Token?
Coin/Token Information
Listed on CMC? If yes, please provide link
Logo, if you have one
Social media channels

Generally, decentralized means for me that you download a program that you run on your PC, which then connects to other nodes to carry out functions via the network. Similar to Bitcoin and most other cryptocurrencies. The more appropriate term for this would be "distributed" or "p2p". I don't really see how these websites you linked are any more decentralized than other exchanges, except that you hold your own keypairs. Which of these sites require to set up an account? That may be an interesting criteria. If you have to register, it is probably not anonymous enough because the trades can be linked.

The only "decentralized" exchange (in the above sense) that I am aware of so far is Bisq, but the sites you named will certainly be discussed at some point. I don't think we have discussed this topic on Discord yet, the current priority is to make the fork happen, finally. Wink

Also some of the sites you linked are only for ERC20 tokens, which isn't the case for Wisp.
jr. member
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Hopefully people will post all their questions here, and any problems or queries can be addresses here instead of in xspec thread.

I think it is worth emphasising that cryptopia and livecoin are unlikely to support any hardforks as we found out with the initial attempt by mandica to fork.

If you want your free wisp it is near certain you will need to have them off the exchange and in your own wallet.

would be handy if this ANN had an Upvote function like Reddit for excample -  Nice to move away from the negative commentary in the previous thread

I for one am looking forward to WISP carrying on in the spirit of decentralised democratic private crypto-currency

to that end I want to ask dev's what exchange listing parameters they have in mind?
exchanges to list on ?

Decentralized
https://idex.market/
https://ddex.io/
https://forkdelta.github.io/

Community exchange (no listing fee)
 CoinPulse is the first crypto-currency exchange that is completely based around and supported by its community. Token holders will have a say in its majority of the decisions. Majority of the functions on CoinPulse have been included based on suggestions received from its community
https://coinpulse.io/ref/c32cbd498ac8fab30c04fe12b44a7a99
200 CPEX bonus for sign up which act like Binance Coin for 70% discount on trading fees

with this page we can propose listing and then upVOTE to show our support for it
https://request.coinpulse.io/suggestions/add
Please try to include as many details as possible.
Below is a list of suggested details:
General description of the project
Coin/Token's Website
Coin or Token?
Coin/Token Information
Listed on CMC? If yes, please provide link
Logo, if you have one
Social media channels
hero member
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Coin Mage
Will cryptopia support the fork and also list wisp too? If not, what other exchanges are you aiming for?

As said in the first post:

Further, our plan is that Wisp will be exclusively listed on decentralized exchanges (DEX) like Bisq (https://bisq.network/), as these are the only way to provide a truly private and decentralized ecosystem to our users. Making these DEX the only option will bring the necessary volume to these markets, and will hopefully also drive the general adoption of decentralized exchanges! Smiley

Cryptopia is not a decentralized exchange and I don't expect it to list Wisp after the fork. We're aiming for Bisq as our first exchange, since its philosophy aligns perfectly with that of Wisp.
sr. member
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Will cryptopia support the fork and also list wisp too? If not, what other exchanges are you aiming for?
oxb
newbie
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Any news on the fork?
Will it be ready this decade or does jbg need some more time and excuses for once again not delivering?

Heard  something about making the coin replay proof?
I dont think that will be possible because jbg is already replaying the same bullshit as he did at xspec.
Every exccuse that was made before is done all over, just coated with some different bullshitsauce.

Its like history repeating witihn a very small timeframe.
But i imagine soon there will be some more info and news about the very promising wisp endeavor, im just waiting for the next bs.

May i suggest creating a non exsisting blockchain security issue where you can spend the next 6 months or so on?
Dont tell anyone i`m trying to help you out as it might damage my online social status.

glad to be of service
Greetz  Oxb the king off bullshit (please jbg no more bs from you you are gaining on me)

PS i gotta hand it to you , you get away with it every time im impressed.
legendary
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Here we have a new Ann for the fork WISP.
I can't say I support such hard fork. Anyway, there are some free coins. Why not?
sr. member
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Merit: 253
The project is strong - it can be seen. But presented a little scant. I would suggest that you add a link to the white paper and the presentation of the team. You can find information on white paper, but this information is very difficult to access.
newbie
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so much blah blah blah on things you want to do butt only 2 things you have: I serial liar developer and big holders running the "project" who wnat to get the money they lost with xspec back (it's more likley that jbg learns how to code), vvc the "project manager" (ahaha he has no clue of what's going on) lost OVER HALF A MILLION $ with XSPEc what an amazing investor. hippyhoppitiespro said he quit his job and probably realized there is no work to do and jbg is again doing nothing and talking rubbish like the old xspec days, gandalf spends his time writing github guides very useful, AWESOME DRAMA LOvE YOU GUYS KEEP IT UP! BRYCE WE ALL LOVE YOU youre so stealth
full member
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Would you like to get listed on coinnox exchange?

We’re taking annymoity and decentralization pretty seriously. Spectrecoin is one of the very few cryptocurrencies that had an anonymous ICO via trusted Bitcointalk escrow, as a fork of Spectrecoin, the anonymity legacy will continue with the markets. While Cryptopia and Livecoin are centralized exchanges, they still do not require KYC regulations but may be subject to third party audits and control trading funds. We wish to encourage WISP holders to only use decentralized exchanges. Centralized exchanges are no better then banks.
full member
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Good luck on Wisp Project. I will be watching this project with interest. By the way how are you going to fund this project Wisp please?

There will be an option to donate staking percentages to development. For the next while current development is releasing work that was previously paid for. We genuinely believe once innovations are released (a POS system with default stealth addresses), staking donations will sufficiently fund further development.
hero member
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Coin Mage
Good luck on Wisp Project. I will be watching this project with interest. By the way how are you going to fund this project Wisp please?

We hope to get this running mainly via voluntary contributions ... we are trying to build an environment here that is very collaboration-friendly so that developers can join easily and contribute on demand, whenever they wish.

Additionally we will set up a system to offer bounties. For example if you and some other investors want to see a certain feature being implemented (a new website design, binaries for a certain Linux distribution, whatever you like), you can pool your money together and make a feature request via Github. The first (voluntary) developer who creates a pull request that gets merged and fulfills that feature request, will get the bounty. This is the fairest and most decentral way to fund a project - money going directly from the people who want something specific being done, to the person who does it.

There are many ways to implement this, maybe via smart contracts, a multi-signature wallet held by a committee, a single person escrow, or simply via individual payments.

And thirdly we will maybe also keep the current donation system, which means that the wallet offers an option to donate your stake rewards to a certain address that belongs to a full-time developer for example, or that goes to a multisig wallet.


Would you like to get listed on coinnox exchange?

It's not a decentralized exchange, so probably not.
oxb
newbie
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Would you like to get listed on coinnox exchange?

They sure would like to . if only they had a working product.
Sorry if there only was a product.

But they are working very hard to get the mother of all coins launched, and you can be sure jbg will do his best to make it happen.
There is just one problem jbg will postpone again and again.
And this post of mine will be called fud ect ect, but ive been watching and listening and reading and jbg is never going to deliver a working product.

So if you want wisp please be VERY VERY patient and in the end you MAYBE will get some.

Maybe rebrand the fukker before its ever realized? PROMISECOIN  we promise but dont deliver.

Please watch for the tekst soon , testing , almost

And watch out for hollow frazes like "we only want to release if the code is perfect"
Most of those fanboys probably hold a large chunk of (undervalued) xspec and hope that wisp will save the day.
What dou you think?
Jbg fucked up xspec and now he will create a new coin? yeah right, think again.

And NEVER ERVER ask for proof of work , because they dont like that.
The only thing they will say "ï know jbg he is working very hard"

This wisp thing should have never been associated with xspec wich is/was a promising project until hobbydev jbg fucked that coin up.
Now he is the kim jung un of wisp and all bow for the great jbg the never deliveryboy.

Maybe....maaaaayybe some time in the far far far away future this coin is going to be "real" but if you ask me its the promiscoin.
Do as you like i would not invest my time or money in this project there are more valuable ones out there.

Goodluck all with youre decision and i hope crypto will treat you nice.


newbie
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Would you like to get listed on coinnox exchange?
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