To the extent that anyone keeps posting in this thread, I'll keep reminding the community about missing funds. And we're now 3 months in, so it gets bleaker by the day, so as much as it pains me to keep picking the scab, I'm not going to shy away from the truth about Cryptopia and say stuff like "we can't say anything about them."
I'm not going to post scam scam scam every hour or anything, but there are enough people saying this or that about Cryptopia working, deposits and withdrawals coming back, promises of improvement, etc.
If there's a chance Cryptopia is also paying people to post fake positives in here, and there is, I'm going to keep posting the actual truth about them confiscating my money and acting like I don't exist.
I don't expect to get my GBYTE back anymore. My only hope is that this story will be big enough that Byteball uses its distribution funds to reimburse those who were robbed. So I'll keep beating the drum thank you very much.
Topic: Preliminary Scam Accusation vs Cryptopia for holding customers funds - page 2. (Read 1192 times)
March 05, 2018, 11:13:16 AM
March 05, 2018, 10:02:25 AM
This is truly disappointing for all of us but until we don't know the answer here we can't say anything about them. Cryptopia is trading an aggregate volume of 1667 BTC as I write and it seems there are many people using it and certainly they are making money from it.
As I stated previously, I'll be more than happy to close this thread soon when we finally get our GBYTE ready for trading again.
As I stated previously, I'll be more than happy to close this thread soon when we finally get our GBYTE ready for trading again.
We can't say anything about them? Wtf happened to you? Hush money?
What they're doing is a point of fact. Confiscating our funds and at the very least, giving us the impression of lost bankrolls for months on end. And more likely at this point, they've straight up robbed us. "We can't say anything about them" is really stupid bro.
Their reported volumes mean nothing. If they're on a GOX exit scam, they'll just keep running fake bots on their own exchange until the last possible second. And people like you (the OP of this very thread I might add) are going to believe their numbers and say "we can't say anything."
JFC this world is a mess. Is there anyone out there who isn't an agent of crime and sociopathy?
We called it a scam but what else can we say? Keep saying this will not help to solve the issue. We can’t do nothing but wait. Maybe at the end of the month I will remove the “preliminary” word from the thread. March 05, 2018, 09:57:16 AM
This is truly disappointing for all of us but until we don't know the answer here we can't say anything about them. Cryptopia is trading an aggregate volume of 1667 BTC as I write and it seems there are many people using it and certainly they are making money from it.
As I stated previously, I'll be more than happy to close this thread soon when we finally get our GBYTE ready for trading again.
As I stated previously, I'll be more than happy to close this thread soon when we finally get our GBYTE ready for trading again.
We can't say anything about them? Wtf happened to you? Hush money?
What they're doing is a point of fact. Confiscating our funds and at the very least, giving us the impression of lost bankrolls for months on end. And more likely at this point, they've straight up robbed us. "We can't say anything about them" is really stupid bro.
Their reported volumes mean nothing. If they're on a GOX exit scam, they'll just keep running fake bots on their own exchange until the last possible second. And people like you (the OP of this very thread I might add) are going to believe their numbers and say "we can't say anything."
JFC this world is a mess. Is there anyone out there who isn't an agent of crime and sociopathy?
March 04, 2018, 04:42:58 PM
cryptopia this is the next MtGox are thief they took all my money to leave as soon as they were big scammers for 3 months with a ticks and still no answer scammers scammers scammers scammers scammers
he took my money these son of a bitch
he took my money these son of a bitch
March 03, 2018, 12:05:06 PM
This is truly disappointing for all of us but until we don't know the answer here we can't say anything about them. Cryptopia is trading an aggregate volume of 1667 BTC as I write and it seems there are many people using it and certainly they are making money from it.
As I stated previously, I'll be more than happy to close this thread soon when we finally get our GBYTE ready for trading again.
As I stated previously, I'll be more than happy to close this thread soon when we finally get our GBYTE ready for trading again.
March 03, 2018, 03:29:32 AM
Cryptopia dont steal your Coins , lol
Maybe thinking about what Shit you talking about !
There are some backlogs , issues with wallets and other things , because an exchange wallet isnt the same as a wallet at your home PC ,
also this wallet runs on a seperated Blockchain who Cryptopia runs on ! You know nothing how this all works !
Also there is backlog in support tickets we known this and catching up !
But the First you all write is this is Scam and we steal coins , but this is not true !
I guess maybe i get now again spam mails and bad trust , or someone goes personaly offensive in threads about me , but i only tell you this all , i dont can anything about every issue that was happend !
should be the only post i do in here !
Regards Lafu
Maybe thinking about what Shit you talking about !
There are some backlogs , issues with wallets and other things , because an exchange wallet isnt the same as a wallet at your home PC ,
also this wallet runs on a seperated Blockchain who Cryptopia runs on ! You know nothing how this all works !
Also there is backlog in support tickets we known this and catching up !
But the First you all write is this is Scam and we steal coins , but this is not true !
I guess maybe i get now again spam mails and bad trust , or someone goes personaly offensive in threads about me , but i only tell you this all , i dont can anything about every issue that was happend !
should be the only post i do in here !
Regards Lafu
You and your exchange are a bunch of scum bags. Your "backlog" has been going on since december. There is absolutely no excuse for this shit.
They don't care about their customers who made them millions.
Don't waste your time with this exchange. File a report with FDRS. https://fdrs.org.nz/complaints/make-a-complaint/
Some people had good luck with them.
Get off this exchange. If you are using get out now while you have your funds intact.
Cryptopia used to be decent but now they've got children running the show.
March 03, 2018, 01:05:38 AM
Cryptopia dont steal your Coins , lol
Maybe thinking about what Shit you talking about !
There are some backlogs , issues with wallets and other things , because an exchange wallet isnt the same as a wallet at your home PC ,
also this wallet runs on a seperated Blockchain who Cryptopia runs on ! You know nothing how this all works !
Also there is backlog in support tickets we known this and catching up !
But the First you all write is this is Scam and we steal coins , but this is not true !
I guess maybe i get now again spam mails and bad trust , or someone goes personaly offensive in threads about me , but i only tell you this all , i dont can anything about every issue that was happend !
should be the only post i do in here !
Regards Lafu
Maybe thinking about what Shit you talking about !
There are some backlogs , issues with wallets and other things , because an exchange wallet isnt the same as a wallet at your home PC ,
also this wallet runs on a seperated Blockchain who Cryptopia runs on ! You know nothing how this all works !
Also there is backlog in support tickets we known this and catching up !
But the First you all write is this is Scam and we steal coins , but this is not true !
I guess maybe i get now again spam mails and bad trust , or someone goes personaly offensive in threads about me , but i only tell you this all , i dont can anything about every issue that was happend !
should be the only post i do in here !
Regards Lafu
You and your exchange are a bunch of scum bags. Your "backlog" has been going on since december. There is absolutely no excuse for this shit.
February 25, 2018, 09:30:18 AM
I was thinking to buy some ETN there today. But I'm undecided now what to do because of the two types of reports, positive & negative.
I already have some coins there, and now I'm also undecided what to do... withdraw or keep it there. Though I never got any issue with cryptopia so far.
With those positive & negative reports, it seems to me that cryptopia is becoming another yobit.
I already have some coins there, and now I'm also undecided what to do... withdraw or keep it there. Though I never got any issue with cryptopia so far.
With those positive & negative reports, it seems to me that cryptopia is becoming another yobit.
You are really playing russian roulette with your money. Don't waste your time.
February 25, 2018, 08:19:49 AM
I was thinking to buy some ETN there today. But I'm undecided now what to do because of the two types of reports, positive & negative.
I already have some coins there, and now I'm also undecided what to do... withdraw or keep it there. Though I never got any issue with cryptopia so far.
With those positive & negative reports, it seems to me that cryptopia is becoming another yobit.
I already have some coins there, and now I'm also undecided what to do... withdraw or keep it there. Though I never got any issue with cryptopia so far.
With those positive & negative reports, it seems to me that cryptopia is becoming another yobit.
February 25, 2018, 05:51:55 AM
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=GBYTE
Something is moving behind the scened on Cryptopia: stay tuned.
I will be more than happy to close this thread saying that we were not scammed by them.
Something is moving behind the scened on Cryptopia: stay tuned.
I will be more than happy to close this thread saying that we were not scammed by them.
February 23, 2018, 01:54:55 PM
No, I'm sorry for you but I'm still free to formulate hypothesis and help people to understand how these things could potentially go out there.
February 23, 2018, 12:44:54 PM
Next time you know nothing (every time?) keep it zipped, eh?
February 23, 2018, 11:28:50 AM
you are the one lying. Keep dealing with ZOI and other scam coins, and keep shilling for Scamtopia. You're gonna be so rich.
That's rude.
Yo don't get heat up man, if you read carefully my post I clearly stated that I know nothing about GBYTE and I was throwing hypothesis.
So please don't start insulting and calling randomly for scams and shills and shits.
Thank you.
Cheers.
February 23, 2018, 09:57:09 AM
So, every case has to be taken singularly, you must take into account that the devs may be lying to you too. As for this GBYTE coin I know nothing. Maybe, maybe, the devs aren't telling the truth, or maybe the upgrades needed to be installed on the Cryptopia's servers didn't work and it wasn't possibile to install and the devs are blaming Cryptopia instead of themselves in front of the users in order to move the blame from them to the exchange for not having to deal with angry users.
The Byteball dev isn't lying. The software works flawlessly as is evidenced by the other exchanges running without interruption as well as users having no problem.
Byteball is a real, relevant coin and it's been LOCKED ON CRYPTOPIA FOR 2+ MONTHS.
Byteball dev isn't lying -- you are the one lying. Keep dealing with ZOI and other scam coins, and keep shilling for Scamtopia. You're gonna be so rich.
February 23, 2018, 07:33:04 AM
At the very minimum they are dispossessing users of the time value of money. At the very minimum that is unethical.
But in truth, fraud falls on a spectrum. If your friend fails to pay you back for some period, he's already committing a certain level of fraud. It's just a slightly lesser fraud than if he never pays you back.
In the case of Byteball (GBYTE) for example, Cryptopia has no excuse, no extenuating circumstance to explain confiscating users' funds for over 2 months. The tech works flawlessly. It is a simple integration / update, and the lead dev of Byteball himself has been trying to reach out to Cryptopia:
I will be contacting NZ lawyers very soon.
But in truth, fraud falls on a spectrum. If your friend fails to pay you back for some period, he's already committing a certain level of fraud. It's just a slightly lesser fraud than if he never pays you back.
In the case of Byteball (GBYTE) for example, Cryptopia has no excuse, no extenuating circumstance to explain confiscating users' funds for over 2 months. The tech works flawlessly. It is a simple integration / update, and the lead dev of Byteball himself has been trying to reach out to Cryptopia:
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in touch with them, trying to get them to pay attention, just a waste of time
I will be contacting NZ lawyers very soon.
No need to argue with cryptopia sock puppets. They are getting paid to steal your money. Cryptopia isn't out to take care of business. They are out here trying to swindle people's money. I've been noticing a lot lately. Cryptopia please do shut the fuck and take care of business. That's paying back what's owed to your clintels. Not hiring idiots trying to argue your idiot shit out of not paying people what's owed.
February 23, 2018, 06:34:12 AM
In the case of Byteball (GBYTE) for example, Cryptopia has no excuse, no extenuating circumstance to explain confiscating users' funds for over 2 months. The tech works flawlessly. It is a simple integration / update, and the lead dev of Byteball himself has been trying to reach out to Cryptopia:
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in touch with them, trying to get them to pay attention, just a waste of time
I'm bringing the experience of ZOI since I'm and I've been in the public Discord and Slack channels and followed uplcose various stages of life of this coin, reading about upgrades and messeges of developers.
When there was a wallet upgraded needed to be installed on Cryptopia, devs of coin contacted them and they applied the requested upgrades in quite reasonable timeframe (1-2 weeks) about 2 weeks ago. In those 1-2 weeks wallet was under manteinance and also the market was paused. The devs reported that Cryptopia replied to to their requests, not instantly of course, but they did and applied the upgrades, there was also an hard fork to do.
So, every case has to be taken singularly, you must take into account that the devs may be lying to you too. As for this GBYTE coin I know nothing. Maybe, maybe, the devs aren't telling the truth, or maybe the upgrades needed to be installed on the Cryptopia's servers didn't work and it wasn't possibile to install and the devs are blaming Cryptopia instead of themselves in front of the users in order to move the blame from them to the exchange for not having to deal with angry users. I'm just throwing ideas here, because every situation and coin has its background, the variables in play are a lot.
February 22, 2018, 01:21:15 PM
At the very minimum they are dispossessing users of the time value of money. At the very minimum that is unethical.
But in truth, fraud falls on a spectrum. If your friend fails to pay you back for some period, he's already committing a certain level of fraud. It's just a slightly lesser fraud than if he never pays you back.
In the case of Byteball (GBYTE) for example, Cryptopia has no excuse, no extenuating circumstance to explain confiscating users' funds for over 2 months. The tech works flawlessly. It is a simple integration / update, and the lead dev of Byteball himself has been trying to reach out to Cryptopia:
I will be contacting NZ lawyers very soon.
But in truth, fraud falls on a spectrum. If your friend fails to pay you back for some period, he's already committing a certain level of fraud. It's just a slightly lesser fraud than if he never pays you back.
In the case of Byteball (GBYTE) for example, Cryptopia has no excuse, no extenuating circumstance to explain confiscating users' funds for over 2 months. The tech works flawlessly. It is a simple integration / update, and the lead dev of Byteball himself has been trying to reach out to Cryptopia:
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in touch with them, trying to get them to pay attention, just a waste of time
I will be contacting NZ lawyers very soon.
February 22, 2018, 05:59:02 AM
StelioKontos
I agree with you - usually payments from debit cards and transfers are executed within a few minutes (1-10), although banks say that it can drag on for several days.
But then again - when we purchase a debit card, or open a settlement account with a bank, we sign the contract, to some extent. And banks, in turn, work on the basis of the laws of the countries in which they are based.
For some offenses with the United States you can get into jail for 10 years, in Russia, just fine $ 100, and in China can shoot or give a life sentence. Again, "everything that does not prohibit the law or the contract - it means allowed." For example in Russia, if an ATM gave you an error by mistake more than you indicated in the terminal and your account shows $ 100 instead of $ 1000, then it is considered that you stole $ 900 from the bank if you do not inform the bank or the police about it. Even if the fault is all a malfunction in the bank's trimming.
In any case, to say that the stock exchange is a fraud early - while the owners of exchanges have not closed the site, they did not go to the beach to spend millions of dollars. If you have borrowed money to your friend, and because of him problems he can not return them on time - he is not yet a fraud.
I agree with you - usually payments from debit cards and transfers are executed within a few minutes (1-10), although banks say that it can drag on for several days.
But then again - when we purchase a debit card, or open a settlement account with a bank, we sign the contract, to some extent. And banks, in turn, work on the basis of the laws of the countries in which they are based.
For some offenses with the United States you can get into jail for 10 years, in Russia, just fine $ 100, and in China can shoot or give a life sentence. Again, "everything that does not prohibit the law or the contract - it means allowed." For example in Russia, if an ATM gave you an error by mistake more than you indicated in the terminal and your account shows $ 100 instead of $ 1000, then it is considered that you stole $ 900 from the bank if you do not inform the bank or the police about it. Even if the fault is all a malfunction in the bank's trimming.
In any case, to say that the stock exchange is a fraud early - while the owners of exchanges have not closed the site, they did not go to the beach to spend millions of dollars. If you have borrowed money to your friend, and because of him problems he can not return them on time - he is not yet a fraud.
February 22, 2018, 05:54:39 AM
marvel213
What is the maximum period for processing transactions and repairing the purses of stock exchanges in accordance with the law of the country in which the exchange is being dislocated? in New Zealand.
Who will give the answer? Yes, no one, I think that simply there are no such established deadlines for the fulfillment of obligations.
What is the maximum period for processing transactions and repairing the purses of stock exchanges in accordance with the law of the country in which the exchange is being dislocated? in New Zealand.
Who will give the answer? Yes, no one, I think that simply there are no such established deadlines for the fulfillment of obligations.
There's a moral conduct in business practices. May you should try it sometime.
Cryptopia hasn't done what they are supposed to be doing. That's taking care of business. Instead they've got retards on the internet attacking customers who make them money.
February 22, 2018, 05:47:09 AM
What is the maximum period for processing transactions and repairing the purses of stock exchanges in accordance with the law of the country in which the exchange is being dislocated? in New Zealand.
Who will give the answer? Yes, no one, I think that simply there are no such established deadlines for the fulfillment of obligations.
Who will give the answer? Yes, no one, I think that simply there are no such established deadlines for the fulfillment of obligations.
Well, even if there is no guarantee, of course they must be "reasonable". Let's take as parameter the bank transfer, it usually takes 2-3 working days. I think, at worst, crypto exchanges shouldn't hit that limit, the optimal timeframe for a withdraw should range, imho, from the minutes to a maximum in case of network congestion or very high platform usage, 1 day, 2 days top.
If that limit is exceeded, there are some issues somewhere for sure.
By the way Cryptopia just released a news regarding deposits and withdraws:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/News
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