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Chelsea may not be sanctioned for breaking financial regulations caused by the latest news has suggested that. According to the most recent news, the EPL has failed to close the loopholes used by the team to avoid breaking PSR and chelsea as one of team that violated PSR rule has used the loopholes to avoid the sanctioon. That is what is happening with Chelsea right now and im feeling good chelsea will not be sanctioned by EPL.

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It came after Chelsea had sparked outrage in April after the west London club sold a hotel on their Stamford Bridge site to one of their sister companies - in a bid to avoid breaching the Premier League’s profit and sustainability rules (PSR).
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Well done, Chelsea. You will not be sanctioned by the EPL for breaking PSR because it can be prevented and other clubs who violated PSR as well. The majority of EPL clubs voted NO to the PSR loophole and EPL can do nothing since it came from majority of voters. I'm glad to see that the majority of clubs voted NO on this. The clubs that used that strategy to avoid PSG will not face sanctions from the EPL.
The EPL has failed to close the loopholes used by the EPL clubs.Cheesy

I believe that the city's PSR infractions may also be dropped too by premier league. It is due to the vote, which has defined the final outcome of any PSR case.
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Indeed, recently, rumors regarding Chelsea eyes on Alvarez have been quite high too. In fact, it is rumored that Chelsea is competing with several other clubs who want the player with a value of £80 million. Yes, Chelsea really has to compete with several big clubs who are also considered to be interested in this striker, because his performance and potential are very good. Like: PSG, Atletico Madrid, and there are also rumors regarding Bayern Munich.

What is clear is that Man City itself does not want to loan Alvarez, they want a higher fee for the player. So indeed, if a club offers according to Man City's wishes, it is not impossible that this striker will actually move. Because this is indeed one way for Alvarez to remain more present and be able to develop his performance.

Agent Enzo Fernandez has been doing his work for Chelsea, now when you look at the players wanting to leave Manchester City and the fair play rules hitting Manchester City from purchasing players on the high, then you'll know why winning the next Premier League Competition would be difficult for them.
No arguments on Pep Guardiola as a top manager but with no weapons to use, he'll be helpless and cannot do with these youngins especially in the Premier League Competition, No!

Alvarez would be nice for Chelsea a hundred percent. For Paris Saint Germany? No, No! To Atletico Madrid? That would be nice but he needs a club who can win him trophies.

Bayern Munich? Jesus Christ! They already have Harry Kane and he can still score fifty ( 50 ) to Sixty ( 60 ) goals in the next two seasons and I'm.not exaggerating when I say that. Alvarez might ne a great backup player but that I'm not sure happening. He'll want to be the point man in the squad off course.
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Manchester City is one of the better teams. Here we go, let Manchester City continue their dominance in the English Premier League. Manchester City fans trust is on another level.  Before the end of this season, Manchester City are already leading the pack. So that he can win the English Premier League again next year and move forward successfully with his team.
Although Manchester City is one of the best teams this season, but I disagree with that because not only Manchester City perform very well throughout the season, but, Manchester City had a lucky opportunity to have a high chance. That's why they were able to dominate the English Premier League this season, if not for there many teams that are far better than Manchester City. But not because they dominate this season, that does not mean they will continue winning the league. Even when people's where making early predictions that Manchester City can move forward by achieving another season, but that will be difficult for them. Because they will find the next season difficult with the way I'm having hope for Arsenal next season.
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I always suspected that it was the reason why Pep would leave Mancity after the 2024/2025 season, because the punishment might be more than just relegation to the Championship.
Back in 2006, Juventus being charged with relegation to Serie C1, but in the end they were only relegated to Serie B. So there is a chance that Mancity might be punish with relegation to lower division than Championship.
I think the most severe punishment is to be banned from the Premier League for several seasons and revoke all the titles during those 9 years, if its just relegation and a fine for 115 violations it doesnt seem fair.
The English Premier League is meant for experience coaches, atleast they know strategically how to handle elite EPL clubs and this is one of the reason to either proceed or retroprogress. We just want what's best for ourselves and never lacking because there's more opportunities in the space. Pep Guardiola have stayed in the English Premier League and have started to dominate as he uses to do every other season. Pep Guardiola is one of the top coach in EPL and leads first when it comes to coaches.
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Being fined by some money won't stop Manchester City indeed. They are just very rich. How big the scale of that kind of a punishment would be for such team?  Smiley  They have been overlooking FFP rules for years. They don't share accurate data while the others do. A big punishment would make them have 2nd thoughts before doing such thing again. I'm really not okay with specific teams to be protected while the others are getting what they deserve.
I always suspected that it was the reason why Pep would leave Mancity after the 2024/2025 season, because the punishment might be more than just relegation to the Championship.
Back in 2006, Juventus being charged with relegation to Serie C1, but in the end they were only relegated to Serie B. So there is a chance that Mancity might be punish with relegation to lower division than Championship.
I think the most severe punishment is to be banned from the Premier League for several seasons and revoke all the titles during those 9 years, if its just relegation and a fine for 115 violations it doesnt seem fair.
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However, it looks like Chelsea has to try harder because not only this club is interested in Sesko but also its rivals from other Premier leagues. Reportedly, Arsenal and Man United are also interested in Sesko. So, there is competition to get it and it will be quite difficult. However, Chelsea did seem very serious and started to approach to get closer.
https://onefootball.com/id/berita/chelsea-pushing-hard-to-sign-this-rb-leipzig-star-good-move-by-the-blues-39589262

I would rather the name Alvarez from Manchester City ( Mind you, I'm no blue fan )  Having a good knowledge of the Premier League Competition and wanting more game time, he will be the perfect name for Chelsea. It'll definitely take some time for him Benjamin Sesko to settle down and successfully do it in the Premier but Alvarez can bring in some quick impact. Chelsea cannot rely on the name Nicolas Jackson for next season alone else they will suffer.
Indeed, recently, rumors regarding Chelsea eyes on Alvarez have been quite high too. In fact, it is rumored that Chelsea is competing with several other clubs who want the player with a value of £80 million. Yes, Chelsea really has to compete with several big clubs who are also considered to be interested in this striker, because his performance and potential are very good. Like: PSG, Atletico Madrid, and there are also rumors regarding Bayern Munich.

What is clear is that Man City itself does not want to loan Alvarez, they want a higher fee for the player. So indeed, if a club offers according to Man City's wishes, it is not impossible that this striker will actually move. Because this is indeed one way for Alvarez to remain more present and be able to develop his performance.
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If City goes to the championship, I think it would be very unfair to other teams in the championship because City will simply demolish any and all teams that stand between them and the championship title. City won the PL title for 4 years in a row, they should be able to win the championship title which would be super easy. That's a more fitting punishment because a fine will just be like a slap on the wrist and they'll go on and do it again in the near future. It needs to be a more heavy punishment so it would serve as an example for other teams to learn from. No one team is above the league rules.

That's another way of looking at the situation. Of course, Manchester City would destroy every single team there. However at least they would get punished for what they have done until now.

Being fined by some money won't stop Manchester City indeed. They are just very rich. How big the scale of that kind of a punishment would be for such team?  Smiley  They have been overlooking FFP rules for years. They don't share accurate data while the others do. A big punishment would make them have 2nd thoughts before doing such thing again. I'm really not okay with specific teams to be protected while the others are getting what they deserve.
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He was also predicting the right thing if Manchester City has a good chance of winning the competition next season and it makes sense. As you can see that Manchester City is still playing very well last season even though they were so struggling but they was able winning EPL again. City remains the frontrunner as a team that will win the competition compared to the its competitors like arsenal or even liverpool at this moment.
I think if someone was given the choice of which team will be the EPL champions next season I think the answer would be the same as the picture you uploaded. City is first on almost everyone's favorite list, followed by Arsenal and Liverpool. They are a team in the top three this season. People forget about Aston Villa, Tottenham and Newcastle because they see little chance even though they are in a better position than United and Chelsea. I wonder why people chose United and Chelsea as EPL champions next season. United is having problems with the team despite winning the FA cup. And Chelsea, I think they are still not worthy of being one of the title challengers next season.
Manchester City is certainly the choice of many people because it has won the EPL 4 times in a row. This is of particular concern in the English league. Even though Manchester City is the champion, the points difference has been very close in the last three seasons. This opportunity can be easily seized by other teams. There is the impact of strong competition with runner up winners.
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He was also predicting the right thing if Manchester City has a good chance of winning the competition next season and it makes sense. As you can see that Manchester City is still playing very well last season even though they were so struggling but they was able winning EPL again. City remains the frontrunner as a team that will win the competition compared to the its competitors like arsenal or even liverpool at this moment.
I think if someone was given the choice of which team will be the EPL champions next season I think the answer would be the same as the picture you uploaded. City is first on almost everyone's favorite list, followed by Arsenal and Liverpool. They are a team in the top three this season. People forget about Aston Villa, Tottenham and Newcastle because they see little chance even though they are in a better position than United and Chelsea. I wonder why people chose United and Chelsea as EPL champions next season. United is having problems with the team despite winning the FA cup. And Chelsea, I think they are still not worthy of being one of the title challengers next season.
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If you open your mouth to say Manchester City, then look at the names wanting to leave Manchester City. They will never come close to winning the Premier League Competition next season.
Kevin De Bruyne, Bernado Silva and the goalkeeper Ederson are most likely to leave the club at the start of the transfer window upcoming.

The three star players you mentioned are of course players who have contributed greatly to Manchester City ability to win various trophies, but I think losing these three players will certainly not necessarily make Manchester City weak and out of the title competition next season, Guardiola built Manchester City with a collective principle and relied more on teamwork than an individual player,  So I think every player who leaves later will not have too big an effect on the team performance, including the loss of Kevin de Bruyne, Bernardo Silva and also Ederson.

The coming and going of players in a team is of course a common thing, including if Manchester City loses the three players, of course with the finances they have, it will be easy for Manchester City to get another player who can indeed replace the position left behind, of the three players, maybe only Kevin de Bruyne will be difficult for them to get a replacement later although indeed currently there are many young and great midfielders but I think it will be It's hard to get a midfielder as smart and complete like Kevin De Bruyne.


There's been strong reports that Manchester City trio Kelvin De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva and Ederson Moraes are going to leave the club this summer. Yesterday I read in a very reliable sports news source where Kelvin De Bruyne said that playing in the Saudi league at this time of his career will be a very good decision since it's gonna make him earn a lot of money in his last few seasons as a professional footballer and that I think simply means he's very open to joining the Saudi league. Ederson Moraes is also reported not to be in the plans of the club manager Pep Guardiola for next season which means the Brazilian is very likely to leave as well. For Bernardo Silva, I don't know how true it is that he might also leave but should the above mentioned players leave, I don't think it's gonna stop the club from defending the English Premier League title come next season
Pep Guardiola is a very experienced manager that always knows how to manage and bring out the best from his players so I think he'll definitely manage the team without those players and still bring out the best from them.
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Teams that needs to sell players before they can continue is a trouble. I am sure they are going to definitely figure something out and sell some players and make it, but that type of law is making things harder for clubs.

This does not mean that City is right, because what City is fighting for is basically any owner should be able to put up any amount of money they want, and that is definitely not the way to go and would leave a lot of clubs in big debt if that was allowed, FA is trying to make sure that they have some limitations to make sure clubs can sustain. However, I also believe that FA is putting a too short of a lead as well, they are just making it super hard to compete, and that is not going to be all that possible if you ask me.

When there is a wealthy owner and is able to buy many great players for me it is not a problem, because the problem is when they exceed the limits that have been set. Maybe something like that makes Manchester City violate but anyway, as long as they don't have a big debt and still have healthy finances then I think it's not a problem either. Indeed, I don't really know the problem that actually happened, so there are rumors that Manchester City will get punished. But as far as I remember, it seems that the problems at Manchester City have been raised also from the previous season or from a few seasons ago. But anyway,  the reality is Manchester City is still fine because anyway, I think Manchester City also did not do any cheating like for example Juventus who cheated about the score or something like that there.
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If you open your mouth to say Manchester City, then look at the names wanting to leave Manchester City. They will never come close to winning the Premier League Competition next season.
Kevin De Bruyne, Bernado Silva and the goalkeeper Ederson are most likely to leave the club at the start of the transfer window upcoming.

First of all, Manchester City has a great squad full of big talents. It is really not easy to see them out of the title race for me to tell the truth. But the absence of the names you mentioned would of course cause them to lose some blood.

Especially De Bruyne's departure would hit them the hardest.  Sad  He is like the brain of this team. There is a visible difference between the time he is in the game and out of it. If Bernardo Silva leaves his absence would also be felt. Ederson is a really good goalkeeper. But I think they can still find another decent player like him. I think Bernardo Silva will stay but I'm not sure about De Bruyne. He is 32 so maybe he might want to play for a Saudi team from now on...

Without these players, I doubt Manchester City could retain the trophy. KDB and Bernando were the masterminds of the attack which gave Manchester City more opportunities. If these 2 players really leave it will be difficult for Haaland or Foden to score goals. I suspect that behind KDB and Bernando desire to leave is because Pep Guardiola will also leave at the end of next season. News like this is certainly highly expected by Arsenal. Because that will bring them closer to the trophy.
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Arsenal failed to capitalize on the opportunities they had to increase their points in the middle and that's where they fell well behind Manchester City. When Manchester City came back in the second leg of the season, they performed well in their next matches and regularly earned full points. If Manchester City can come back after falling behind Arsenal then why Arsenal could not come back from that situation. At one point in the season we thought that Liverpool might win the English Premier League title because Liverpool had more points than Manchester City and Arsenal at that time but towards the end Liverpool lost points and this is where they were knocked out of the title race. There is no idea how competitive Liverpool will be with Manchester City and Arsenal next season, but we can definitely expect Arsenal to do well next season.
They said that opportunity come, but once that's what happens to Arsenal, they refuse to capitalize on the chance they have against Aston Villa. If I can remember when Manchester City was in the third position and Arsenal was leading the top standing by then, all my expectations is that Arsenal can definitely dominate this season English Premier League. With the gap of points they have between Manchester City and Liverpool, people were hoping for them that they would not drop any points with the way they improved their performance at that time, but they refused to maintain their consistency. That's why Arsenal failed to win the Premier League this season.
 
With the way every club ends this season with a good performance, the next coming season won't be easy for every club because there will be competition between them, especially Arsenal, Liverpool, and Manchester City. There own will be the worst one with how those three teams giving each other pressure until the end of the season. Let us wait and see if Arsenal can make the fans happy and put a smile on Mikel Arteta's face in the next Premier League.
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If you open your mouth to say Manchester City, then look at the names wanting to leave Manchester City. They will never come close to winning the Premier League Competition next season.
Kevin De Bruyne, Bernado Silva and the goalkeeper Ederson are most likely to leave the club at the start of the transfer window upcoming.

The three star players you mentioned are of course players who have contributed greatly to Manchester City ability to win various trophies, but I think losing these three players will certainly not necessarily make Manchester City weak and out of the title competition next season, Guardiola built Manchester City with a collective principle and relied more on teamwork than an individual player,  So I think every player who leaves later will not have too big an effect on the team performance, including the loss of Kevin de Bruyne, Bernardo Silva and also Ederson.

The coming and going of players in a team is of course a common thing, including if Manchester City loses the three players, of course with the finances they have, it will be easy for Manchester City to get another player who can indeed replace the position left behind, of the three players, maybe only Kevin de Bruyne will be difficult for them to get a replacement later although indeed currently there are many young and great midfielders but I think it will be It's hard to get a midfielder as smart and complete like Kevin De Bruyne.

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If you open your mouth to say Manchester City, then look at the names wanting to leave Manchester City. They will never come close to winning the Premier League Competition next season.
Kevin De Bruyne, Bernado Silva and the goalkeeper Ederson are most likely to leave the club at the start of the transfer window upcoming.

First of all, Manchester City has a great squad full of big talents. It is really not easy to see them out of the title race for me to tell the truth. But the absence of the names you mentioned would of course cause them to lose some blood.

Especially De Bruyne's departure would hit them the hardest.  Sad  He is like the brain of this team. There is a visible difference between the time he is in the game and out of it. If Bernardo Silva leaves his absence would also be felt. Ederson is a really good goalkeeper. But I think they can still find another decent player like him. I think Bernardo Silva will stay but I'm not sure about De Bruyne. He is 32 so maybe he might want to play for a Saudi team from now on...
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Teams that needs to sell players before they can continue is a trouble. I am sure they are going to definitely figure something out and sell some players and make it, but that type of law is making things harder for clubs.

This does not mean that City is right, because what City is fighting for is basically any owner should be able to put up any amount of money they want, and that is definitely not the way to go and would leave a lot of clubs in big debt if that was allowed, FA is trying to make sure that they have some limitations to make sure clubs can sustain. However, I also believe that FA is putting a too short of a lead as well, they are just making it super hard to compete, and that is not going to be all that possible if you ask me.
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Several seasons ago, Manchester City received punishment from UEFA with a 2 season ban from playing in the Champions League as well as a fine of several million euros but this was canceled by CAS, and several accusations against City were also addressed to several clubs in the English Premier League, strangely enough, these two clubs immediately received sanctions while City is still safe, so some say City will be safe from all charges and will remain in the English Premier League.
However, if they get punished, I think whatever punishment they face, this team will be able to recover quickly because the money this club has is huge, being relegated to the championship is not a problem for City for one season and then returning to the English Premier League, except for the current owner decided to sell it and we can see that several clubs that have experienced a change of ownership are experiencing difficulties in competing and this could be what City will face.
The financial strength possessed by Manchester City not only makes them a trophy conqueror club in every competition they participate in, but even they seem to be very immune to all the charges they have received so far, 115 charges that have existed and the absence of any follow-up from the English league authorities of course indicates that there is something wrong with the current English league.  Unlike financially weak teams such as Everton and Nottingham Forest who immediately received punishment when they only made one mistake in the last two seasons, previously Manchester City received a ban from playing in European competitions and also a fine in the form of money, but after an appeal was made CAS said the indictment had passed the deadline set for prosecution, so that it could not be considered anymore and finally Manchester City was released from all existing demands.

Looking at the possibility like the case two years ago, of course it seems that there is a game that is indeed happening behind the scenes, so that until now Manchester City is still quite safe from their punishment, I think that precisely now the Premier League authorities are trying to make Manchester City position safe so that in the end the 115 cases charged will actually expire again and there is no longer a reason to punish Manchester City.
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By the way, I'm pretty curious about what will happen to Manchester City. As a reminder, there are 115 charges against them by the PL. It has been 2 years so the other teams in the PL aren't very positive about the potential result.

A source related to the case: BBC

I also can't be very expectant from this situation though. The result of the case might be seen by the early 2025 the latest. If Manchester City is found guilty, finally  Grin, then they might even find themselves in Championship. Can you imagine them being there with a squad and manager like this? It would be the most shocking news but I don't think this will happen for real. Probably a financial punishment would be seen I think.
Several seasons ago, Manchester City received punishment from UEFA with a 2 season ban from playing in the Champions League as well as a fine of several million euros but this was canceled by CAS, and several accusations against City were also addressed to several clubs in the English Premier League, strangely enough, these two clubs immediately received sanctions while City is still safe, so some say City will be safe from all charges and will remain in the English Premier League.
However, if they get punished, I think whatever punishment they face, this team will be able to recover quickly because the money this club has is huge, being relegated to the championship is not a problem for City for one season and then returning to the English Premier League, except for the current owner decided to sell it and we can see that several clubs that have experienced a change of ownership are experiencing difficulties in competing and this could be what City will face.
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Chelsea seems to be starting to think about various strategies to manage and strengthen their club again. Yes, we know that Chelsea's purchases last season were not as effective and successful. And this season, it seems like they are even more selective in choosing potential players who really suit them.

This time, what is most rumored is Chelsea's interest in Leipzig striker Benjamin Sesko. Yes indeed, if you look at his performance this season, Sesko has made a very good contribution to the team. At this club, he really has quite impressive performance and contributions. He scored 18 goals in 42 matches this season, quite good and classy for Leipzig.

However, it looks like Chelsea has to try harder because not only this club is interested in Sesko but also its rivals from other Premier leagues. Reportedly, Arsenal and Man United are also interested in Sesko. So, there is competition to get it and it will be quite difficult. However, Chelsea did seem very serious and started to approach to get closer.
https://onefootball.com/id/berita/chelsea-pushing-hard-to-sign-this-rb-leipzig-star-good-move-by-the-blues-39589262

I would rather the name Alvarez from Manchester City ( Mind you, I'm no blue fan )  Having a good knowledge of the Premier League Competition and wanting more game time, he will be the perfect name for Chelsea. It'll definitely take some time for him Benjamin Sesko to settle down and successfully do it in the Premier but Alvarez can bring in some quick impact. Chelsea cannot rely on the name Nicolas Jackson for next season alone else they will suffer.

They have good midfielder's already and I change and take back my words, Selling Conor Gallagher would be great and they're making good profits from the player sikce he was gotten from the academy. They should sell him and fund for a proper striker. I don't know why they have no plans in Osimhen no more, could be the fee though and as well avoiding financial fair play rules.

Romelu Lukaku is another good sale to make profits from.

But most importantly, they need to solidify the defense because with th absence of Thiago Silva and wanting to sell Chalobah, most of the names they have are injury prone players, they need to make good significant signings to support the defense.
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Even if Manchester City drop points, they can recover those points later on and they have been particularly good towards the end of the season which has helped them to the top of the points table. Arsenal but if they lose some points in the middle or early part of the season, they cannot recover those points later and this is where they fall behind. It is difficult for us to distinguish how much better Arsenal are performing this season compared to last season. 
Last season if they had most of the original XI in their XI then they might have performed better than this season but this season despite being injury free this team has not done well. However, this team is well aware that there is room for improvement and they will prepare accordingly for the upcoming season.
Manchester City is by far the most consistent team in the Premier League, losing points in several matches at the beginning and middle of the season certainly does not make Manchester City lose their chance to be winner and even when towards the end of the season they can be quite consistent and it is difficult to lose points even though they have faced a big team so far, Their ability to rise after getting a defeat is of course the main factor Manchester City can win the title in the last few seasons, while Arsenal who are strong contenders for the title this season are certainly not able to maintain their consistency, although they have been quite impressive since the beginning and middle of the season but they are down when the match is only 7 matches left,  It is quite painful indeed what Arsenal fans feel right now, when it is only one step away for Arsenal to break their negative trend in the last 20 years is actually Aston Villa being a team that destroyed their dreams this season.

This is the second season for Arsenal to fail to win the trophy when they are close to the trophy, so I think it is very likely that Arsenal will come back to compete next season to try to break Manchester City dominance, so there will indeed be a lot of improvements that Arteta will probably do at Arsenal next season, reportedly next season Arsenal are throwing away a lot of players and of course they will also try to bring in some good players to strengthen their squad next season.
Arsenal failed to capitalize on the opportunities they had to increase their points in the middle and that's where they fell well behind Manchester City. When Manchester City came back in the second leg of the season, they performed well in their next matches and regularly earned full points. If Manchester City can come back after falling behind Arsenal then why Arsenal could not come back from that situation. At one point in the season we thought that Liverpool might win the English Premier League title because Liverpool had more points than Manchester City and Arsenal at that time but towards the end Liverpool lost points and this is where they were knocked out of the title race. There is no idea how competitive Liverpool will be with Manchester City and Arsenal next season, but we can definitely expect Arsenal to do well next season.
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