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Manchester City is one of the better teams. Here we go, let Manchester City continue their dominance in the English Premier League.
Every club have their pattern when it comes to performance and Manchester City are consistent having great season. Pep Guardiola is the best coach to ever manage the club.

Dominance, it belong to Manchester City without stressing their best players. Kudos to De Bruyne because he's the top player and have succeeded in hitting all time running on his path. Arsenal and the rest teams can only strives for greatness and trophies outside the English Premier League but anything can happen.
Manchester City has been building a team in the last few seasons and Pep Guardiola was able to make Manchester City what it is today, but that doesn't mean their dominance in the Premier League will be easy because other top Premier League teams are also starting to develop so there will still be fierce competition in the race for the title. as has happened to the Arsenal team in the last 2 seasons, many improvements have occurred since Arteta coached Arsenal so it is possible that Arsenal can break the dominance of Manchester City, who have won the Premier League title 4 times in a row.
But whatever it is, Manchester City can't just go around in the Premier League, this competition will always be competitive with fierce competition in the fight for the title.
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I agree that Manchester City still have higher chances of winning the trophy next season, but it’s too early to conclude that they will be winning yet, the season hasn’t even started for us to see how each club is playing. We should wait for the season to start first, and we have to see how each club is performing before concluding. We saw what happened to Manchester City in the last FA Cup final, everyone expected Manchester City to win the cup because they were in form, and Manchester United's performance wasn’t really good, but we saw how the match ended and things didn’t go well for Manchester City, so anything can happen to Manchester City next season.

I also suggest that it's too early to decide or predict wins the next season of the Premier League especially in a dynamic competition like Premier league anything can happen. Likewise we've have seasons where thriving second class clubs spring up surprises like the Leverkusen did in their own league and Leicester City did in the past Premier league trophy. I'm most optimistic about the performance of Manchester City in the next season likewise that of Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United. I have a feeling that Manchester would perform better in the next season that they did this season due to the mistakes and errors that were caused by the manager who is Eric Ten Hag.

It sounds non sense. This is the purpose of discussion thread.



He was also predicting the right thing if Manchester City has a good chance of winning the competition next season and it makes sense. As you can see that Manchester City is still playing very well last season even though they were so struggling but they was able winning EPL again. City remains the frontrunner as a team that will win the competition compared to the its competitors like arsenal or even liverpool at this moment.

That is sufficient evidence to conclude that the outcome of the previous season will be repeated soon again and city is gonna win it for the fifth times in a row. No doubt about it after watching how consistent manchester city is this season. The better if you want to look at the chart above. Allow ten hag to make some modest alterations to the defensive line and this will be really helpful for manchester united to ensure the club is very well prepared at this moment. I'm confident United will return stronger next season after ten hag will be donig some minor changes. This will be really helpful for manchester united soon

Manchester United have at least won the FA Cup and this is better for united. That is sufficient, rather than seeing United receive nothing this season and ten hag deserved to stay for another season.
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By the way, I'm pretty curious about what will happen to Manchester City. As a reminder, there are 115 charges against them by the PL. It has been 2 years so the other teams in the PL aren't very positive about the potential result.

A source related to the case: BBC

I also can't be very expectant from this situation though. The result of the case might be seen by the early 2025 the latest. If Manchester City is found guilty, finally  Grin, then they might even find themselves in Championship. Can you imagine them being there with a squad and manager like this? It would be the most shocking news but I don't think this will happen for real. Probably a financial punishment would be seen I think.

You are right, but currently Manchester City is attacking back in the Premier League amidst them receiving 115 charges. Man City filed a lawsuit against the Premier League regarding financial regulations. This season's Premier League champions are demanding the abolition of the Associated Party Transaction (APT) rules. The Premier League implemented this rule in 2021 to prevent clubs from increasing the value of sponsorship deals with companies related to their owners. The Premier League demands that all deals must be in accordance with fair market value.

Man City has prepared legal steps regarding the league's financial regulations. In their lawsuit, they felt they were victims of discrimination in the Related Party Transactions (APT) financial regulations. This demand is considered Man City's way of attacking back into the Premier League. Currently they are being charged with 115 violations of financial regulations, which occurred between 2009-2018. The threat of punishment from these charges varies, ranging from large points deductions, large fines, transfer bans, to being expelled from the Premier League. For example, Everton was punished with two point deductions for two violations.
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By the way, I'm pretty curious about what will happen to Manchester City. As a reminder, there are 115 charges against them by the PL. It has been 2 years so the other teams in the PL aren't very positive about the potential result.

A source related to the case: BBC

I also can't be very expectant from this situation though. The result of the case might be seen by the early 2025 the latest. If Manchester City is found guilty, finally  Grin, then they might even find themselves in Championship. Can you imagine them being there with a squad and manager like this? It would be the most shocking news but I don't think this will happen for real. Probably a financial punishment would be seen I think.

If City goes to the championship, I think it would be very unfair to other teams in the championship because City will simply demolish any and all teams that stand between them and the championship title. City won the PL title for 4 years in a row, they should be able to win the championship title which would be super easy. That's a more fitting punishment because a fine will just be like a slap on the wrist and they'll go on and do it again in the near future. It needs to be a more heavy punishment so it would serve as an example for other teams to learn from. No one team is above the league rules.
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Manchester City is one of the better teams. Here we go, let Manchester City continue their dominance in the English Premier League.
Every club have their pattern when it comes to performance and Manchester City are consistent having great season. Pep Guardiola is the best coach to ever manage the club.

Dominance, it belong to Manchester City without stressing their best players. Kudos to De Bruyne because he's the top player and have succeeded in hitting all time running on his path. Arsenal and the rest teams can only strives for greatness and trophies outside the English Premier League but anything can happen.
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I agree that Manchester City still have higher chances of winning the trophy next season, but it’s too early to conclude that they will be winning yet, the season hasn’t even started for us to see how each club is playing. We should wait for the season to start first, and we have to see how each club is performing before concluding. We saw what happened to Manchester City in the last FA Cup final, everyone expected Manchester City to win the cup because they were in form, and Manchester United's performance wasn’t really good, but we saw how the match ended and things didn’t go well for Manchester City, so anything can happen to Manchester City next season.

I also suggest that it's too early to decide or predict wins the next season of the Premier League especially in a dynamic competition like Premier league anything can happen. Likewise we've have seasons where thriving second class clubs spring up surprises like the Leverkusen did in their own league and Leicester City did in the past Premier league trophy. I'm most optimistic about the performance of Manchester City in the next season likewise that of Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United. I have a feeling that Manchester would perform better in the next season that they did this season due to the mistakes and errors that were caused by the manager who is Eric Ten Hag.
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By the way, I'm pretty curious about what will happen to Manchester City. As a reminder, there are 115 charges against them by the PL. It has been 2 years so the other teams in the PL aren't very positive about the potential result.

A source related to the case: BBC

I also can't be very expectant from this situation though. The result of the case might be seen by the early 2025 the latest. If Manchester City is found guilty, finally  Grin, then they might even find themselves in Championship. Can you imagine them being there with a squad and manager like this? It would be the most shocking news but I don't think this will happen for real. Probably a financial punishment would be seen I think.
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Manchester City is one of the better teams. Here we go, let Manchester City continue their dominance in the English Premier League.
I agree that Manchester City still have higher chances of winning the trophy next season, but it’s too early to conclude that they will be winning yet, the season hasn’t even started for us to see how each club is playing. We should wait for the season to start first, and we have to see how each club is performing before concluding. We saw what happened to Manchester City in the last FA Cup final, everyone expected Manchester City to win the cup because they were in form, and Manchester United's performance wasn’t really good, but we saw how the match ended and things didn’t go well for Manchester City, so anything can happen to Manchester City next season.
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I'm curious about Chelsea's moves in the summer transfer window from now on. They have spent a billion euros in last two years but still couldn't get what they wanted. I hope to see them being more careful in this window.
They are starting to target some players at this moment.

1. Jhon duran (villa)
2. Sesko (Rb leipzig)
3. Olise (Palace)
4. Leeds winger
Chelsea seems to be starting to think about various strategies to manage and strengthen their club again. Yes, we know that Chelsea's purchases last season were not as effective and successful. And this season, it seems like they are even more selective in choosing potential players who really suit them.

This time, what is most rumored is Chelsea's interest in Leipzig striker Benjamin Sesko. Yes indeed, if you look at his performance this season, Sesko has made a very good contribution to the team. At this club, he really has quite impressive performance and contributions. He scored 18 goals in 42 matches this season, quite good and classy for Leipzig.

However, it looks like Chelsea has to try harder because not only this club is interested in Sesko but also its rivals from other Premier leagues. Reportedly, Arsenal and Man United are also interested in Sesko. So, there is competition to get it and it will be quite difficult. However, Chelsea did seem very serious and started to approach to get closer.

https://onefootball.com/id/berita/chelsea-pushing-hard-to-sign-this-rb-leipzig-star-good-move-by-the-blues-39589262
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I'm curious about Chelsea's moves in the summer transfer window from now on. They have spent a billion euros in last two years but still couldn't get what they wanted. I hope to see them being more careful in this window.

It seems like they want to sign a striker these days despite Nkunku's return. However I understand them at the same time. Because Nkunku has been a quite injury-prone player recently. Apart from that Nkunku's main position isn't centre-forward already. He is mainly an attacking midfielder but can play as left winger and striker as well. Jackson makes mistakes but he is still young though. They can just go for an experienced striker or a young striker such as Osimhen who is more credible with finishing skills.  Smiley

That intriguing thing to know what they can do or how they are going to act, we hear a lot about how they can put the team back together, maybe they want Oshimen, I don't know what those negotiations are like, because it seems that PSG also want him, even though this striker sounds a lot more, well it seems to me that he lacks the explosiveness of a striker like him for Chelsea, as you say, they have already spent a lot of money in the previous two seasons and nothing has given good results, I think that a change of coach would also be good, because the truth is that this team is stopping winning many important competitions.
Maybe they will spend more again this season, but not betting on the price of players but more on the quantity of players they can buy and utilize and then look for the waste that will be in the team strater and the coach will be very difficult because the team they build is too many players and waste money again.

Regarding Nkunku is very doubtful but Chelsea seems to hope that Nkunku can give a very good performance, regarding Osimhen I think PSG has the potential to win it considering the popularity and salary offered will be the main attraction here.
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Manchester City is one of the better teams. Here we go, let Manchester City continue their dominance in the English Premier League. Manchester City fans trust is on another level.  Before the end of this season, Manchester City are already leading the pack. So that he can win the English Premier League again next year and move forward successfully with his team.
We have our favourite clubs but City stands out as the best without comparison. Manchester City is the best club in the English Premier League and they've won the league title with competitive run from other opponents. I'm yet to witnessed the fierce opponent for Pep Guardiola in the English Premier League. Although Mikel Arteta have always shown signs to compete with Pep Guardiola but his  chances growing from slim to bigger one.
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I'm curious about Chelsea's moves in the summer transfer window from now on. They have spent a billion euros in last two years but still couldn't get what they wanted. I hope to see them being more careful in this window.

It seems like they want to sign a striker these days despite Nkunku's return. However I understand them at the same time. Because Nkunku has been a quite injury-prone player recently. Apart from that Nkunku's main position isn't centre-forward already. He is mainly an attacking midfielder but can play as left winger and striker as well. Jackson makes mistakes but he is still young though. They can just go for an experienced striker or a young striker such as Osimhen who is more credible with finishing skills.  Smiley

That intriguing thing to know what they can do or how they are going to act, we hear a lot about how they can put the team back together, maybe they want Oshimen, I don't know what those negotiations are like, because it seems that PSG also want him, even though this striker sounds a lot more, well it seems to me that he lacks the explosiveness of a striker like him for Chelsea, as you say, they have already spent a lot of money in the previous two seasons and nothing has given good results, I think that a change of coach would also be good, because the truth is that this team is stopping winning many important competitions.

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Even if Manchester City drop points, they can recover those points later on and they have been particularly good towards the end of the season which has helped them to the top of the points table. Arsenal but if they lose some points in the middle or early part of the season, they cannot recover those points later and this is where they fall behind. It is difficult for us to distinguish how much better Arsenal are performing this season compared to last season. 
Last season if they had most of the original XI in their XI then they might have performed better than this season but this season despite being injury free this team has not done well. However, this team is well aware that there is room for improvement and they will prepare accordingly for the upcoming season.
City is having a little bit of trouble with FA as we all know, they are getting a lot of court situations going and the whole famous 115 charges, and the amount of money FA is spending on the leagues is dropping lower, just because they have to fight off City as well, these are all issues that City is facing.

Doesn't mean that they are going to get hurt, it just means that everyone will keep on hating them, and being hated just because you are good is not the same as being hated because you ruined a league and every other team, those are two different things and when you are that bad, then it means that no teams fans will ever be kind to you, you will always get all the hatred in the world even if you start to be bad, and this means players may think twice before joining you.
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Manchester City is one of the better teams. Here we go, let Manchester City continue their dominance in the English Premier League. Manchester City fans trust is on another level.  Before the end of this season, Manchester City are already leading the pack. So that he can win the English Premier League again next year and move forward successfully with his team.

It is always easier said than done. Manchester City at some point in the last season premier league lost dominance and were no where to be found on top of the standings not until when Liverpool misused their opportunity to finish on top of the league and also Arsenal misused theirs also when they got the opportunity. Manchester City got same opportunity as them and used it well to finish on top of the table. We can’t be so sure what the next season or how the next season can be for them, but I know they’ll finish in a good position still.

Arsenal weakness in the last two seasons lies in its inconsistent performance. Arteta can almost make Arsenal win the EPL trophy with improved performance after bringing in several quality players. Next season you must have the ability to maintain your best performance to win the EPL trophy.

Two seasons have passed and Arsenal are still repeating the same mistake of incomplete consistency in the league matches. After their first season failure of not winning the Premier League, I assumed they’ll adjust in the second season but still repeated the same mistake. They will be tested for the third time after two missed chances, I hope they can be successful this time around when the new season begins.
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Even if Manchester City drop points, they can recover those points later on and they have been particularly good towards the end of the season which has helped them to the top of the points table. Arsenal but if they lose some points in the middle or early part of the season, they cannot recover those points later and this is where they fall behind. It is difficult for us to distinguish how much better Arsenal are performing this season compared to last season. 
Last season if they had most of the original XI in their XI then they might have performed better than this season but this season despite being injury free this team has not done well. However, this team is well aware that there is room for improvement and they will prepare accordingly for the upcoming season.
Throughout this season Manchester City suffered three defeats against Wolves, Arsenal and Aston Villa. Losing nine points in these three matches should be able to be used by Arsenal to catch up with the points that Manchester City has collected. Arsenal wasted too many opportunities to collect full points when Manchester City slipped, they were unable to maintain a consistent performance which made it easy for Manchester City to collect the most points.

Arsenal weakness in the last two seasons lies in its inconsistent performance. Arteta can almost make Arsenal win the EPL trophy with improved performance after bringing in several quality players. Next season you must have the ability to maintain your best performance to win the EPL trophy.
Yes, the difference in points this season will be an important note for Manchester City because for Arsenal this small difference will be used as a special benchmark that next season they must be able to increase their number of wins again. I think the battle for the top position next season will still be contested by these two teams. For this reason, Arsenal must be able to take advantage of the transfer market, because even though they have players who are quite stable in their abilities on the field, there are no pure strikers who are really hungry for goals. This means that Arsenal will have at least one striker to provide a breakthrough in scoring goals next season to match Manchester City, who already have Haaland. It has been proven that Haaland is still Manchester City's biggest goal contributor for 2 full seasons. Meanwhile, Arsenal does not have a representative in the table of the top 3 scorers, so isn't this actually a weakness that Arsenal has but is reluctant to maximize because Arteta does not adhere to a strategy with 1 pure striker.
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Manchester City is one of the better teams. Here we go, let Manchester City continue their dominance in the English Premier League. Manchester City fans trust is on another level.  Before the end of this season, Manchester City are already leading the pack. So that he can win the English Premier League again next year and move forward successfully with his team.

 Grin Grin This is just for the sake of argument or the influence of fans? There is a popular proverb that says, “It is not every day that you will sleep in bed." This prover is directed to Manchester City entirely, including the fans, because winning trophies wouldn’t be forever. You can't continue to be the continuous winners every season, most especially next season, because there are a lot of rivals that will be a threat again to Manchester City next season if they want to also take the trophy this rivals include. Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa, and maybe Chelsea, but for Chelsea, I think it will be in the dream, because I am not sure of their performance. But what I want you to understand is that it will be very difficult for us to see Manchester City as the winner of the trophy next season unless there are some factors that might not be stopped. 
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(...) Chelsea is also building a new era with Enzo Maresca. (...)

Replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a weird move given it was Pochettino's first year with the club and he had a really good end of the season, indicating that things were starting to work out. I'd understand if Chelsea managed to secure a contract with some high-profile manager, but Maresca is not one of them. He's only success was to lead Leicester to the Premier League.
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Consistency is indeed Arsenal's problem, even in the last 2 seasons they have had the same problem and also the problem of the team's mentality slumping when they are under pressure, causing the team's performance to decline.
There are many things that Arteta needs to do to enable Arsenal to win the Premier League title, but we can see that in the last 2 seasons there has been positive progress so that it is also possible for Arsenal to win the Premier League trophy in the next season and what must also be remembered is that The Premier League competition is very competitive and it will not be easy for all teams.

In the last two seasons Arteta has managed to improve Arsenal performance and mentality in the competition for trophies in the Premier League, but Arteta has not been able to make Arsenal have consistency in every crucial match, Arsenal this season managed to win points from strong teams in the league but unfortunately Arsenal often lose points from weak teams,  the match against Aston Villa and Fulham was of course a match that they should have been able to win when the level of the two teams was lower, but in fact Arsenal had to lose important point which in the end made their chances of winning the Premier League this season disappear, Aston Villa since being coached by Unai Emery has often been a nightmare for Arsenal because if we remember last season,  In fact, Aston Villa was also the one who made Arsenal lose the opportunity to winner.

Next season Arteta should be able to learn from the failures that have occurred in the last two seasons, so it is very important for Arteta to in addition to improving the stability of the squad, mentality and also Arsenal performance, of course he must be able to make Arsenal very consistent in their performance, so that of course Arsenal will be able to break Manchester City dominance in the Premier League as well as get their EPL trophy after the last 22 seasons Arsenal failed.
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Arsenal fans should just stop thinking that Arsenal will be at another level next season, I don’t see arsenal winning the league title next season, first of all, I want to ask, did Manchester City lose any of their players? Or did Manchester City sell out some players? I don’t see Manchester City selling out any of their key players and if Manchester City players are complete and no one was injured before the beginning of the season Manchester City will still win the premier league title, Manchester City squad is complete and no position that The team lacks and that is the first thing we should be thinking of before assuming that arsenal will win the title next season.

Arsenal has a good squad also but the squad doesn’t know how to get a well work done when it comes to winning the league, Arsenal has been making the same mistakes for more than 2 years now by allowing a small team to defeat them and give Manchester City a chance of winning the league, I don’t expect arsenal to win premier league title next season, they can win another trophy but you see the champion league and premier league title arsenal cannot win it with that squad they have currently.

As for me, based on Arsenal's performances this season, if I should judge next season based on that, it is sure that Arsenal still has a great opportunity to win the Premier League trophy. Not winning it on the first attempt and second attempt doesn't mean that is how they will continue. There is improvement in Arsenal between last season and this season. It is not how they performed last season that they performed this season. If we consider that, with the type of coach they have, there are probability high chances for Arsenal to win next season.

See for example Manchester City failed many times before winning the Champions League. Despite their great form all those seasons, they failed both in the semi-final and final. So, I don't think you should conclude easily that Arsenal will not win next season's Premier League. In fact, the league has not yet started, so there is not good enough proof yet to predict their next season's matches. It is possible that even many teams that performed poorly this season may improve, and probably those teams that performed great this season may not perform well next season. It will be better for the season to start before judging the team likely to win the league
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Before the end of this season, Manchester City are already leading the pack. So that he can win the English Premier League again next year and move forward successfully with his team.
Lol, your expectations are too high. I never doubted Manchester City's ability to win the title race, but predicting something that hasn't happened is like trying to paint the sky.
Manchester City is at the top of the list for predictions of EPL champions next season. But that doesn't mean City fans can celebrate next season's title at this time. I agree with what zaim7413 said. No one doubts the possibility of City becoming back-to-back champions for five consecutive seasons. But what Ajpa94 said looks like City has already secured the title next season. As a football fan I prefer to enjoy game by game and decide who will be champion after the second half of the season.
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