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Tottenham wasted an unbelievable opportunity by getting a draw yesterday.  Sad  By saying opportunity I mean Aston Villa have an away game against Manchester City tonight. I don't expect them to steal any point from Manchester City honestly. If Tottenham won they would equalize the points in this situation but the chance is gone this time.

Tottenham still have a missing game to play though. The top four fight between Tottenham and Aston Villa is really fierce and Tottenham had better make use of that missing game. Both of them are going to play against title contenders in the rest of the season so the top four competition will also be nice to watch.  Smiley

This is indeed a pretty good opportunity for Tottenham, at least if they win against West Ham they will have the same points as Aston Villa. It's just that if you look at the course of the match, even though Tottenham dominated the match but it was West Ham who had more good opportunities than Tottenham. What I saw was that West Ham had 2 opportunities which could have been goals if only Guglielmo Vicario had not made a brilliant save.

In the 31st week, Tottenham once again had the opportunity to overtake Aston Villa because it is very likely that Aston Villa will lose to Man City, and Tottenham will only play against Nottingham Forest, and they will play at home.
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away or home for top teams or big teams in the EPL sometimes does not provide a guarantee of victory, whereas Arsenal and Man City are part of the big teams in the EPL.
whatever the result in the match at that time, it didn't surprise me and I really understand the draw because both teams both wanted to win the EPL title this season but also didn't want to lose points and in the end both teams appeared very careful.
draw in the match at that time seemed to be the best result for both teams because Arsenal and Man City could still get 1 point, but this draw gave Liverpool the opportunity to be at the top of the standings after successfully getting 3 points from Brighton.
Whatever results Man City and Arsenal get, no one needs to be blamed because there are several factors that encourage these two teams to share points equally and remain in the top 3 positions.
maybe Guardiola is famous for his very precise strategy, but Arteta as Arsenal coach certainly also has an alternative strategy to destroy Guardiola strategy.
Manchester City has dominated the Epl and as such made the Etihad one fierce ground for the visiting clubs when they come around there. Yes the Etihad is one stadium that Manchester City has held dominance for over a year and past and still don’t look like they’ll be getting tired of the dominance more especially in the EPL anytime soon.

 In the match against Arsenal, a lot of us thought Manchester City as usual will be thrashing And cruising with a victory of over 3-4 goals and go past Arsenal on the log. Well Arteta made a statement with the performance of his boys to show that he’s got the antidote as against Pep Guaridola's superior dominance as he was able to get the draw at the Etihad.

 ⁠Yes the draw was a set back for the two teams as ot saw Liverpool who were able to overcome Brighton go clear on top the log with over 2-3 points as against both Arsenal and Manchester City. Well these 3 teams will still remain in contention for the league and maybe in next 2-3 gameweek, we might have one team drop form the race.

 ⁠The result at Etihad was superb as both teams real performed well though we can say the midfield and attack of Manchester City performed below average as we’ve also got the attack of Arsenal not coming to their best performance. Well in all we had a blissful encounter and we’ll love to see what the remaining gameweek holds for us as we know the EPL is one exciting league.
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Yep if we look at the remaining schedule, Mancity has the advantage compare with Liverpool and Arsenal.
Yeah I agree with you, if you check the fixture, the matches which I think will be giving Manchester City difficult moment among the matches left is their match between Aston villa, and Tottenham. and am sure they will try their possible best to win the match, other matches left shouldn’t be that kind of difficult for Manchester city, so I will say Manchester City shouldn’t lose hope yet, they just have to do everything possible to win all the matches they are having left.

But even if Liverpool and Arsenal lose 3 points, they are still on track to become Premier League champions with a difference of only 1 and 2 points with City.
If Liverpool and Arsenal lose three points each, then Manchester City will be having equal points with Liverpool, and Manchester City and Liverpool will be ahead of Arsenal with 2 points, which am not sure the two clubs will be losing three points each. Seriously the competition is becoming more thought, and no one is sure about the club which will be winning the league this season.
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Tottenham wasted an unbelievable opportunity by getting a draw yesterday.  Sad  By saying opportunity I mean Aston Villa have an away game against Manchester City tonight. I don't expect them to steal any point from Manchester City honestly. If Tottenham won they would equalize the points in this situation but the chance is gone this time.
I must say totenham was lucky enough in this match. The clubs have been performing quite well but ange once again forced his club to play high line defensive which is so stupid. IDK why antonio performed so pathetic in that game. The moment when antonia was missing the ball from the corner kick and when he was one on one against the goal keeper were disappointed moments for all of westham fast. The main weakness from totenham once it was facing a defensive club like westham whch was also playing low block. Westham recorded very bad possession against totenham  but it has been successfully helping united to cut the gap.
The gap between MU and totenham is getting even lower. I hope that this momentum will still continue soon.

Tottenham still have a missing game to play though. The top four fight between Tottenham and Aston Villa is really fierce and Tottenham had better make use of that missing game. Both of them are going to play against title contenders in the rest of the season so the top four competition will also be nice to watch.  Smiley
True but aston villa was widening the game since it was able winning in the last game. So, the chance for manchester united and totenham to get the last spot for UCL is not there. The gap is too big considering the remaining matches are getting fewer too.
This shall become the main problem owned by ten hag, united may be firing him if he will not able to give good result at the end of season. It seems to me totenham and untied have chances to get into the europa league next season.
The chance to qualify for UCL is almost zero for totenham and united. These clubs must be only competing for the europa league spot.
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Tottenham wasted an unbelievable opportunity by getting a draw yesterday.  Sad  By saying opportunity I mean Aston Villa have an away game against Manchester City tonight. I don't expect them to steal any point from Manchester City honestly. If Tottenham won they would equalize the points in this situation but the chance is gone this time.

Tottenham still have a missing game to play though. The top four fight between Tottenham and Aston Villa is really fierce and Tottenham had better make use of that missing game. Both of them are going to play against title contenders in the rest of the season so the top four competition will also be nice to watch.  Smiley
Yes, it's a shame that Tottenham couldn't take advantage of the opportunity to get 3 points against West Ham and only got 1 point because it ended in a 1-1 draw. Indeed, Tottenham dominated throughout the match, but it must be admitted that West Han's defense was very strong and defense was their choice so they still got points even though they only got 1 point.
And Tottenham is currently only 2 points away from Aston Villa, and Aston Villa will also face the strong team Manchester City who will play in a few hours. And I think Aston Villa is also not an easy opponent for Manchester City because in their last match Aston Villa won 1-0 at home against Manchester City, but now they are the guests and Manchester City will definitely be the favorites in this match.
In my opinion, Aston Villa and Tottenham still have a chance to be in 4th place in the standings to win UCL tickets. However, it all depends on the results of their remaining matches, and they will also meet Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool in the remaining matches. Wink
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All credit goes to Arteta for making this Arsenal team what it is today. I have watched this team develop in the last couple of seasons, they have become a team worthy of being considered serious title contenders for any tournament they are in. I think Arsenal would have won the EPL last season if Manchester City were not such a dominant team. They will not want to disappoint their fans this time around.
It is very natural that a lot of praise is given to the coach who brought the club to develop better than before and that is what has happened to Arsenal in the last few seasons. Mikel Arteta has coached Arsenal for 5 years and it all takes a long process. Mikel Arteta has done it with well and in the last two seasons Arsenal was able to challenge for the title in the Premier League because they were in the top ranking together with Manchester City they competed strongly even though Arsenal had to lose balance at the end and finally made Manchester City win the title again and this season Mikel Arteta will do Arsenal better from the previous season and did not let Manchester City win the title again.

Being able to hold Manchester City to a draw was enough for Arsenal to prevent Manchester City from going any further by occupying the top of the standings, even though he had to lose his place because he had to be moved again by Liverpool. I'm sure Arsenal will continue to try until the end of the season because Mikel Arteta and other coaches such as Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Kloop will also do the same thing to get this title, who knows who will succeed in getting it, we'll see at the end of the season.
What Arsenal experienced with Arteta, the mutual chemistry between players and coaches has guaranteed the establishment of a good relationship so it only takes a matter of time until Arsenal win the trophy. It could be that this process will provide an opportunity for the London Cannon to lift the Premier League trophy. I am quite confident as long as Arteta continues to be trusted to handle this team for a long time. Apart from that, Arsenal officials must have full trust in Arteta, giving him the freedom to choose the players he wants. Because that way Arteta will be more confident in taking this club in a better direction. No matter last season or now, Arsenal still has difficulty getting past Man City and Liverpool. It took a process to achieve this, now little by little Arsenal performance is able to provide resistance to Pep Guardiola troops and not a few teams are able to do this. The reason is that Man City in the EPL is the strongest team and Arsenal managed to place themselves in the top 2 positions while the Premier League standings are behind Man City.
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Tottenham wasted an unbelievable opportunity by getting a draw yesterday.  Sad  By saying opportunity I mean Aston Villa have an away game against Manchester City tonight. I don't expect them to steal any point from Manchester City honestly. If Tottenham won they would equalize the points in this situation but the chance is gone this time.

Tottenham still have a missing game to play though. The top four fight between Tottenham and Aston Villa is really fierce and Tottenham had better make use of that missing game. Both of them are going to play against title contenders in the rest of the season so the top four competition will also be nice to watch.  Smiley
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From what I remember last year they were in a similar situation being behind Arsenal with atleast the same amount of matches left to play in the season. Yet they came out on top despite Arsenal's form which deteriorated in the later stages giving them their triple crown.

Coming away with a goal-less draw against them over the weekend didn't help their spot below both leaders of the table either.

Yes, at the end of the 2022/2023 season Mancity's points are 89 and Arsenal 84.
Mancity important points were obtained from beating Arsenal 4-1 and Arsenal failed to win in 3 matches at the end of the 2022/2023 season.
Arsenal vs Southampton 3-3, Arsenal vs Brighton 0-3, Nothingham vs Arsenal 1-0

And yes, Mancity only got 2 points from a very important 6 points against Liverpool and Arsenal.
If they fail again to get 3 points from Aston tomorrow, it is certain that they will fail to win the Premier League this season.
Yea, I agree with you. Manchester city have drawn two of their last matches dropping 4 points, and if it happens that they draw Aston Villa, being to the title race would become hard for them. This is because Liverpool and Arsenal will win their next matches, increasing the point gap, making it difficult to City to win the league, if all matches are won.

All three teams are on the hot seat of maintaining their consistency, which would lead to the victory of any team that can do that. Liverpool is on the lead, if they can be able to hold on the first position till the end of the season, it will be the best for them.
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Arsenal just has to win this one, they’ve come way too far to not have this title. From being the average team we knew them to be that is always looking up to the FA cup for a trophy and Europa for an international league qualification to a title contender and a strong UCL side. Of course I’ll like to see their efforts pay off but,

It’s really up to Spurs to decide. Spurs would be crowning the league champions this season with their lose or win. Arsenal already ensured they don’t lose their advantage to Manchester City and set the pace for number of goals, playing better football at the end of the season, that’s so not their style last season and they could win this for real.
All credit goes to Arteta for making this Arsenal team what it is today. I have watched this team develop in the last couple of seasons, they have become a team worthy of being considered serious title contenders for any tournament they are in. I think Arsenal would have won the EPL last season if Manchester City were not such a dominant team. They will not want to disappoint their fans this time around.
Last season we saw Arsenal as the only team to compete with Manchester City in the final to win the English Premier League title. Other teams including Liverpool and Manchester United could not compete with Manchester City at all last season. Arsenal finished their league in second place last season but this season the team is still doing well and their performances have been quite consistent. Although last season's Liverpool are doing great this season, the English Premier League competition may be between Manchester City Liverpool and Arsenal with Liverpool and Manchester City more likely to be ahead. There is no doubt that Arsenal will win the Premier League title in any season if Manchester City is uncontinued.
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From what I remember last year they were in a similar situation being behind Arsenal with atleast the same amount of matches left to play in the season. Yet they came out on top despite Arsenal's form which deteriorated in the later stages giving them their triple crown.

Coming away with a goal-less draw against them over the weekend didn't help their spot below both leaders of the table either.

Yes, at the end of the 2022/2023 season Mancity's points are 89 and Arsenal 84.
Mancity important points were obtained from beating Arsenal 4-1 and Arsenal failed to win in 3 matches at the end of the 2022/2023 season.
Arsenal vs Southampton 3-3, Arsenal vs Brighton 0-3, Nothingham vs Arsenal 1-0

And yes, Mancity only got 2 points from a very important 6 points against Liverpool and Arsenal.
If they fail again to get 3 points from Aston tomorrow, it is certain that they will fail to win the Premier League this season.
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The thing is, technically speaking Man City is third, that is what the standings are showing literally right now, and yet people still think that Man City has the highest chance to win. That should be good enough to provide you how strong they are. There are two other teams top of them and both of those teams are great teams and yet we are talking about something that is still quite different in many ways. I believe that the best thing to do in this case would be just focusing on what to do.
In terms of the remaining matches of the three teams, Mancity has the most advantage. They only have 1 difficult match left against Tottenham. Liverpool's schedule is quite difficult as they have to meet Man Utd and Tottenham. Both Man Utd and Tottenham are still in the race to qualify for the UCL next season so they will play very determined. Among the three teams racing for the championship, perhaps Arsenal is the team facing the most difficulties in terms of schedule. In the remaining 9 matches, they must meet Chelsea, Tottenham and Man Utd. These are all strong teams in the Big Six and it is not easy for Arsenal to win all 3 points. In addition, Arsenal and Mancity still have matches in the UCL, so a lack of force or being exhausted can easily affect the results in the final matches of the Premier League.
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All credit goes to Arteta for making this Arsenal team what it is today. I have watched this team develop in the last couple of seasons, they have become a team worthy of being considered serious title contenders for any tournament they are in. I think Arsenal would have won the EPL last season if Manchester City were not such a dominant team. They will not want to disappoint their fans this time around.
It is very natural that a lot of praise is given to the coach who brought the club to develop better than before and that is what has happened to Arsenal in the last few seasons. Mikel Arteta has coached Arsenal for 5 years and it all takes a long process. Mikel Arteta has done it with well and in the last two seasons Arsenal was able to challenge for the title in the Premier League because they were in the top ranking together with Manchester City they competed strongly even though Arsenal had to lose balance at the end and finally made Manchester City win the title again and this season Mikel Arteta will do Arsenal better from the previous season and did not let Manchester City win the title again.

Being able to hold Manchester City to a draw was enough for Arsenal to prevent Manchester City from going any further by occupying the top of the standings, even though he had to lose his place because he had to be moved again by Liverpool. I'm sure Arsenal will continue to try until the end of the season because Mikel Arteta and other coaches such as Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Kloop will also do the same thing to get this title, who knows who will succeed in getting it, we'll see at the end of the season.
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The thing is, technically speaking Man City is third, that is what the standings are showing literally right now, and yet people still think that Man City has the highest chance to win. That should be good enough to provide you how strong they are. There are two other teams top of them and both of those teams are great teams and yet we are talking about something that is still quite different in many ways. I believe that the best thing to do in this case would be just focusing on what to do.

I believe that we are going to do fine with Liverpool but Arsenal may actually lose out. Liverpool is not an easy piece and Man City knows this very well, if you ask them how much chance they have, they would say a number less than what people think of them.

Bookmakers still continued to favour Manchester City the most for the title but it looks like they have dropped them to the second place now.

Because the current odds: Liverpool - 2.10  Manchester City - 2.75  Arsenal - 3.25

Arsenal are still shown as the least favourite which I'm not surprised of. The last time they won the title was 20 years ago in the end. I agree about Liverpool. There have been really great title challenges between them and Manchester City so far. Honestly I would like Liverpool to be victorious at the end. Klopp also deserves that before leaving.
From what I remember last year they were in a similar situation being behind Arsenal with atleast the same amount of matches left to play in the season. Yet they came out on top despite Arsenal's form which deteriorated in the later stages giving them their triple crown.

Coming away with a goal-less draw against them over the weekend didn't help their spot below both leaders of the table either.
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The Etihad Stadium is a home for winning top opponents and there's more to this, it becomes more formidable for Manchester City when they starts because they're currently the best team and top favorites. Let not all the praise go to Pep Guardiola and Manchester City, we have Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool, Mikel Arteta and Arsenal. Pep Guardiola was all known to be one of the fierce manager in the English Premier League, he knows his threats and how to handle them. Why blaming Manchester City for the incapacity of accumulating three points against Arsenal.
away or home for top teams or big teams in the EPL sometimes does not provide a guarantee of victory, whereas Arsenal and Man City are part of the big teams in the EPL.
whatever the result in the match at that time, it didn't surprise me and I really understand the draw because both teams both wanted to win the EPL title this season but also didn't want to lose points and in the end both teams appeared very careful.
draw in the match at that time seemed to be the best result for both teams because Arsenal and Man City could still get 1 point, but this draw gave Liverpool the opportunity to be at the top of the standings after successfully getting 3 points from Brighton.
Whatever results Man City and Arsenal get, no one needs to be blamed because there are several factors that encourage these two teams to share points equally and remain in the top 3 positions.
maybe Guardiola is famous for his very precise strategy, but Arteta as Arsenal coach certainly also has an alternative strategy to destroy Guardiola strategy.
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The thing is, technically speaking Man City is third, that is what the standings are showing literally right now, and yet people still think that Man City has the highest chance to win. That should be good enough to provide you how strong they are. There are two other teams top of them and both of those teams are great teams and yet we are talking about something that is still quite different in many ways. I believe that the best thing to do in this case would be just focusing on what to do.

I believe that we are going to do fine with Liverpool but Arsenal may actually lose out. Liverpool is not an easy piece and Man City knows this very well, if you ask them how much chance they have, they would say a number less than what people think of them.

Bookmakers still continued to favour Manchester City the most for the title but it looks like they have dropped them to the second place now.

Because the current odds: Liverpool - 2.10  Manchester City - 2.75  Arsenal - 3.25
It was changed compared to the last month when city was still leading the competition with around 2.00, how lucky people who took liverpool as a candidate to win the competition caused by the old odds was greater than the current odds caused by liverpool has not yet lead the competition like this time.
The odds can change anytime depending on what the result from the upcoming weeks. I expect that if city will comeback stronger and arsenal will be bottling some matches. It's hard to understand liverpool's pattern considering the fact that if club is still performing quite well.
The only hope to see salah will be injured again. This will make liverpool lose its power.

Arsenal are still shown as the least favourite which I'm not surprised of. The last time they won the title was 20 years ago in the end. I agree about Liverpool. There have been really great title challenges between them and Manchester City so far.  Smiley  Honestly I would like Liverpool to be victorious at the end. Klopp also deserves that before leaving.
It's number two but lower odds compared to the city which means bookies are not even feeling confidence to put arsenal as most potential candidate to win this season. I meant the history really affects the odds owned by arsenal since this club bottled the trophy after it was continuously winning any game last season.
I strongly agree if arsenal's odds must be lower than city. The competition is getting even harder for manchester city to defend its PL trophy.
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The thing is, technically speaking Man City is third, that is what the standings are showing literally right now, and yet people still think that Man City has the highest chance to win. That should be good enough to provide you how strong they are. There are two other teams top of them and both of those teams are great teams and yet we are talking about something that is still quite different in many ways. I believe that the best thing to do in this case would be just focusing on what to do.

I believe that we are going to do fine with Liverpool but Arsenal may actually lose out. Liverpool is not an easy piece and Man City knows this very well, if you ask them how much chance they have, they would say a number less than what people think of them.

Bookmakers still continued to favour Manchester City the most for the title but it looks like they have dropped them to the second place now.

Because the current odds: Liverpool - 2.10  Manchester City - 2.75  Arsenal - 3.25

Arsenal are still shown as the least favourite which I'm not surprised of. The last time they won the title was 20 years ago in the end. I agree about Liverpool. There have been really great title challenges between them and Manchester City so far.  Smiley  Honestly I would like Liverpool to be victorious at the end. Klopp also deserves that before leaving.
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The thing is, technically speaking Man City is third, that is what the standings are showing literally right now, and yet people still think that Man City has the highest chance to win. That should be good enough to provide you how strong they are. There are two other teams top of them and both of those teams are great teams and yet we are talking about something that is still quite different in many ways. I believe that the best thing to do in this case would be just focusing on what to do.

I believe that we are going to do fine with Liverpool but Arsenal may actually lose out. Liverpool is not an easy piece and Man City knows this very well, if you ask them how much chance they have, they would say a number less than what people think of them.
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It's possible to say that Manchester City's chances of winning the Premier League title are greater than Arsenal and Liverpool. Likewise, some people say that Arsenal or Liverpool have a big chance, but I'm still keeping it and don't want to say which of them has a big chance of lifting the trophy because the three of them will face matches with very close schedules which could potentially result in players getting injured because of fatigue.

Arsenal and Manchester City still remain in the European Champions League. Liverpool is also still in the Europa League.
Manchester City's position apart from the Champions League, they are also still in the FA Cup.
A busy schedule will be an external factor in determining each team's chances of winning the League title. City and Arsenal have important matches in the Champions League, while Liverpool have relatively easy matches in the Europa League. This will make determining who has the greatest chance of winning the league title even more difficult.

If you look at the league matches, City has a big chance because the match is relatively easy. But they still have the FA and UCL trophies. Arsenal is a bit balanced because they are playing in the UCL and have a big game against Liverpool. Liverpool have tough games against Tottenham, Aston Villa and Arsenal but they have relatively easy games in the Europa League.
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I watched the whole game and Manchester City were not good at all.  Smiley  Arsenal's playing a defensive game can't be shown as an excuse for that. Manchester City still have great players to score goals. Guardiola just couldn't figure out a way to break Arteta's system in this game. It wasn't a mission impossible in the end but of course I really admire Arteta's work.

This result and performance can't be acceptable for Manchester City while they are fighting for the Premier League title. Even if you ask Guardiola I'm pretty sure he will also say that they weren't good enough that day.

Arteta already beat them once at Emirates though so I was expecting Guardiola to be well-prepared this time.
The Etihad Stadium is a home for winning top opponents and there's more to this, it becomes more formidable for Manchester City when they starts because they're currently the best team and top favorites. Let not all the praise go to Pep Guardiola and Manchester City, we have Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool, Mikel Arteta and Arsenal. Pep Guardiola was all known to be one of the fierce manager in the English Premier League, he knows his threats and how to handle them. Why blaming Manchester City for the incapacity of accumulating three points against Arsenal.
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Probable position of EPL teams by the end of the season. Keep in mind that this isn't about the mathematical chances of a team reaching a certain position but, Using win probability on the left over matches, how the team is most likely going to fare.
Nothing has changed between this and using mathematical chances and it think that the result can still chance but yeath since the upcoming week is not gonna be a hard week for manchester cit and in my opinion that if nothing will change. Liverpool is still leading the competition, but given the upcoming fixtures between Liverpool and Arsenal which are even more difficult compared to the what manchester city is gonna face and i strongly believe city can take advantage from this, I believe a miracle can occur for Manchester City in the future to see its competitors were bottling some matches. Having said that if Liverpool is currently favored by bookmakers to win the competitions but who knows if a miracle can happen like last season when arsenal bottled some matches, but there are still plenty of matches left for all of top clubs and the standing can changed based on the resut achieved in any weeks.

The first, second, and third positions can change at any time as long as the gap is not too large. I believe Arsenal should have a lower win probability based on who their next opponents will be. Manchester City has surpassed almost all of the strong clubs but yeah since it was not lucky enough and it's still at the third place now.
city now only has some mediocre clubs as upcoming fixtures which can be passed easily by the big like city and it will put the city in the safe zone, whereas Arsenal has not yet faced strong clubs. We consider other factors, such as club fixtures and I would rank Arsenal lower than Manchester City coz city has easier fixtures compared to the arsenal which will face chelsea, mu and many more.

Liverpool will remain in first place if they do not have as difficult a schedule as Arsenal. I believe the Reds will win the competition this season because they have a very strong club that can perform consistently in any match.

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