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They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.
If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final. They really performed poorly in that match. United have lost the opportunity to play in the European league through the Premier League. They still have a chance of the FA Cup but City are aiming for a double winner this season. They already lost the UCL trophy so I'm sure City won't let them lose another two trophies.
This result was never imagined before, most of them placed bets for MU to win because of the difference in team quality. But the results on the field made people who bet on MU have to accept the bitter reality after Crystal Palace managed to break into MU's goal four times without any return goals from MU players. Due to the poor performance at Crystal Palace headquarters, MU lost the opportunity to play in European competitions. The remaining three matches will not be easy for MU because they will face Arsenal, Newcastle and Brighton. Beating Man City in the FA Cup final is also almost impossible. This was done because Man City is very consistent in maintaining his performance in the EPL and also really wants to win this trophy.
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Chelsea's performance in their recent English Premier League matches have significantly improved of which many people now believes that a top four finish would've been absolutely possible for Chelsea if they had been as consistent and impressive as they've been in their last five league games. Yesterday against West Ham, Chelsea produced a great performance to win the game with a thumping 5:0 scoreline against the Hammers. Mauricio Pochentino looks like he's finally found the best approach that'll bring out the best from his boys and I think he'll be able to keep up with the current performance till the end of the current season.
Chelsea are trying to finish the season in a position that'll guarantee them European football next season of which the UEFA Europa League competition is their top target at the moment but even if they end up playing in the UEFA Conference League competition next season, it'll also be an improvement from what they achieved as a club last season.

I don’t think Chelsea will be able to finish in such a position from where they will be able to take part in the European competitions. because they need to have enough points to finish in the fifth position if I am not wrong. But it looks like it is going to be really hard for them to do that. Because the point difference is quite big.

But at the same time I have to say, the way Tottenham has been performing recently, it is not impossible as well. Tottenham has actually lost four matches in a row. it is not going to be a big surprise if in the end Chelsea and Newcastle United are fighting for the fifth position at the end of the day and Tottenham is actually the one finishing on the seventh position. But still, it is going to be really hard for Chelsea to pull that off.
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Manchester United are helpless. Their defending never got better. They are even losing to much weaker teams with a big goal difference. This isn't the version of them that I would like to watch. Alex Ferguson must be really sad to see this team in the current situation.  Sad

Erik ten Hag is very highly criticized. After this embarrassing result people got mad at him once again. As Manchester United have been struggling for years I don't really know if the actual issue here is the manager.  Huh

We will see with whom they will continue. But now there is an emergency for this squad to be improved a lot.
After Manchester United spent a lot of money by bringing in star players but Manchester United performance did not improve at all, isn't it worth blaming Ten Hag at this time?
Ten Hag keeps asking the management for a lot of money every season to strengthen their every line, but today he said they don't have the quality of players to win those games, whereas we know all along the decision to bring in players was in Ten Hag hands but instead he blamed the squad without realising his mistakes so far.  After disappointing results from weak teams, of course, the fans trust in Ten Hag is no longer there and I think it is time for Manchester United to consider Ten Hag future at Manchester United at the moment.

What you said about improving the squad has certainly been done by Manchester United in the last 3 seasons by bringing in great players, but in fact it has not had a positive impact at all on Manchester United performance this season, so it seems that changing coaches can be a better solution, because indeed the ability of a coach to manage the team has a big role in winning so far in addition to the quality factor of players.
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Crystal Palace vs Man United today match in Premier League Crystal Palace team scored 4 goals and Man United team did not score any goals. Man United team lost this match due to poor performance of the players. I lost the bet by placing a bet in support of Man United team.  I never thought that the Man United team would perform so badly. However, the players of the Crystal Palace team did a great performance in today's match. M.  Olise played very well in today's match.

Manchester United are helpless. Their defending never got better. They are even losing to much weaker teams with a big goal difference. This isn't the version of them that I would like to watch. Alex Ferguson must be really sad to see this team in the current situation.  Sad

Erik ten Hag is very highly criticized. After this embarrassing result people got mad at him once again. As Manchester United have been struggling for years I don't really know if the actual issue here is the manager.  Huh

We will see with whom they will continue. But now there is an emergency for this squad to be improved a lot.
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They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.
If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final. They really performed poorly in that match. United have lost the opportunity to play in the European league through the Premier League. They still have a chance of the FA Cup but City are aiming for a double winner this season. They already lost the UCL trophy so I'm sure City won't let them lose another two trophies.
Manchester United lost a lot of players this season because too many players were injured, this made Erik ten Hag have to think further, where last night Casemmiro had to be the CB, so there was no other choice on the bench which made Erik ten Hag have to put Casemiro there and losing Bruno made Manchester United's midfield lose an important figure they could rely on, Crystal Palace did make Manchester difficult last night, I think if there had been Bruno and Maguire last night it wouldn't have been like this.

Regarding the match against Manchester City in the FA Cup Final, it is not impossible that Manchester United can win this match, of course it will be different from the league in this Final, everything will happen especially as we know this is a Derby so it is not impossible, even though Man City is superior it doesn't mean Manchester United will lose, but I think Manchester United will win this match and will put on an interesting show in the final.
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They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.
If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final. They really performed poorly in that match. United have lost the opportunity to play in the European league through the Premier League. They still have a chance of the FA Cup but City are aiming for a double winner this season. They already lost the UCL trophy so I'm sure City won't let them lose another two trophies.
It’s obvious Manchester city will defeat Manchester United, I wonder what’s wrong with Manchester United because each match day viewers end up seeing a defeat and not just mere defeat but, defeat viewers never expected like just imagine crystal palace defeated United. Funny how Manchester city will play with everything against united and other teams in the epl fixtures this last time , I remembered when Manchester City had zero hope winning the epl title rather we all focused on Liverpool. Let’s just hope because everyone can actually predict the winnner against Manchester United.
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Crystal Palace vs Man United today match in Premier League Crystal Palace team scored 4 goals and Man United team did not score any goals. Man United team lost this match due to poor performance of the players. I lost the bet by placing a bet in support of Man United team.  I never thought that the Man United team would perform so badly. However, the players of the Crystal Palace team did a great performance in today's match. M.  Olise played very well in today's match.
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They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.
If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final. They really performed poorly in that match. United have lost the opportunity to play in the European league through the Premier League. They still have a chance of the FA Cup but City are aiming for a double winner this season. They already lost the UCL trophy so I'm sure City won't let them lose another two trophies.
Well, everyone really knows that as long as this season is concerned Manchester United is no match to Manchester City. So, any match between Manchester United and Manchester City we already know that Manchester City is the favorite. However we understand that the momentum and confidence of a particular team towards a particular match has so much impact in that match even more than the form they came with. It would have been easier for Manchester United assuming Manchester City scaled to the final of the Champions League. But right now it will be difficult for this guys coupled with how disorganized the team is now. But then if ETH, can have some of players, especially defenders back for this meeting it can take another shape. This is because it is called finals, a final must surely look like a final no matter the atmosphere. So, it can be correct to say that Manchester United still have good chance to appear in the European competition next season.
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They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.
If United play like they did against Crystal Palace I think it's almost impossible they can beat City in the FA cup final. They really performed poorly in that match. United have lost the opportunity to play in the European league through the Premier League. They still have a chance of the FA Cup but City are aiming for a double winner this season. They already lost the UCL trophy so I'm sure City won't let them lose another two trophies.
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Out of their last 10 Premier League games, Manchester United have only won 2. One with Everton and one with the last in the table - Sheffield.
The 4-0 loss to Crystal Palace was an absolute humiliation. We all knew they were lacking in the offence, but their defence was equally bad today. It could've been 5-0 if not for the off-the-post shot.
It's a shame, because they had a real chance of fighting for the 5th place, given Tottenham have lost a lot of points lately, but Man United have wasted that chance.
They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.
The game yesterday was really unbelievable because I didn't watch the game I was checking it with my phone when I saw 2 zero first half i was like okay the game is going to be a draw match because to enable them maintain their possion for Europe league next season, then in the second half just before 50 minutes I saw Manchester united score 1 goal before I no the goal was rule out by VAR and before 60 minutes Crystal palace have had another one goal that is 3 and I slept, is was when I check scores this morning I saw 4 Full time, it was really bad performance from Manchester united players yesterday.
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Poor Manchester United... Crystal Palace destroyed them by 4-0. This is really a terrible season for the Red Devils. People tend to blame it on Erik ten Hag but I don't know. I don't think it is that simple to be honest. You can't expect him to do great things with the squad he has now. There have been big problems in defense this season. If they make the needed transfers this summer I think people will see that Erik ten Hag isn't the main problem. Smiley
Erik ten Hag is Manchester United major problem, if a team is not doing well the fault is always on the couch.
Assume Xabi Alonso was the club's coach and things may be differet. I am feeling confident that United will do far better than it by replace him with a new coach. Ten hag is a bad coach. There's no doubt that many fans wanted him to leave the club as soon as possible caused by he delivers nothing for manchester united. I believe that not only the defense, but also the midfielders, have been performing poorly in the game against palace, that's why united being destroyed by palace with a lot of goals.
Even the attacking line isn't as good as I expected. It is clear from the fact that Manchester United has a deficit of goals between GF and GA. It means that Manchester United has both a poor attacking and defensive line.
This is not the Manchester United I wanted to see. When considering the statistics recorded by Manchester United, the club ranks relatively low in all categories. That is the main issue if United wants to keep Ten Hag as an appointment for another season.
It is better for United to fire him as soon as possible. United is the stupidest team if the club continues to keep Ten Hag as an appointment.


Talking about squad football is not always about squad ok when you take a look at Bayern Leverkusen players they don't have much squad but they won the Bundesliga, so will see that doing well in football is not always about having squad sometimes good relationship with the players and the manager matters alot.
So true. Leverkusen was only doing minor chance when xabi was coming. In fact, that's how the coach has the biggest influence in the club.
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Poor Manchester United... Crystal Palace destroyed them by 4-0. This is really a terrible season for the Red Devils. People tend to blame it on Erik ten Hag but I don't know. I don't think it is that simple to be honest. You can't expect him to do great things with the squad he has now. There have been big problems in defense this season. If they make the needed transfers this summer I think people will see that Erik ten Hag isn't the main problem. Smiley
Erik ten Hag is Manchester United major problem, if a team is not doing well the fault is always on the couch.
What are you trying to say do you mean that the inconsistent of the Manchester united is their from there side is their coach fault. I didn't think is true because their coach is always try his possible best as much as he can to make that his teams doing well and bring out a good results in any of their opponents, but due their poorly performance they will not meetup. Expecially their defense honestly Manchester united are lack of  defense and their coach is contributed much effort to put them in right path, but they will never take corrections from their mistakes and that's why they remain without moving forward they should just go home and rest i think there time is over for this season.
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Talking about squad football is not always about squad ok when you take a look at Bayern Leverkusen players they don't have much squad but they won the Bundesliga, so will see that doing well in football is not always about having squad sometimes good relationship with the players and the manager matters alot.
They can never compare the Bayer Leverkusen performance with Manchester united everyone know how the Bayer Leverkusen strong in Bundesliga this season, even in times of squad they their are very strong. Because they really ready for this season to win the championship.
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Poor Manchester United... Crystal Palace destroyed them by 4-0. This is really a terrible season for the Red Devils. People tend to blame it on Erik ten Hag but I don't know. I don't think it is that simple to be honest. You can't expect him to do great things with the squad he has now. There have been big problems in defense this season. If they make the needed transfers this summer I think people will see that Erik ten Hag isn't the main problem. Smiley
Erik ten Hag is Manchester United major problem, if a team is not doing well the fault is always on the couch.
Well, I would agree with you because it’s his job, that’s the one thing he is there to do, to decide how the game would go through the players he decides to feature on a game, the formation his using and when to make what substitution. It never really matters how the players play so long as his there to direct so, you could always blame it on him.

Manchester United played really badly today, this was a game they ought to have least got a point from but, not even a consolation goal and ended up conceiving 4 goals to Crystal Palace, that shouldn’t be, even in an away game, with Manchester United’s quality.
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Out of their last 10 Premier League games, Manchester United have only won 2. One with Everton and one with the last in the table - Sheffield.
The 4-0 loss to Crystal Palace was an absolute humiliation. We all knew they were lacking in the offence, but their defence was equally bad today. It could've been 5-0 if not for the off-the-post shot.
It's a shame, because they had a real chance of fighting for the 5th place, given Tottenham have lost a lot of points lately, but Man United have wasted that chance.
They can still get a spot in the Europa League next season if they somehow manage to defeat Man City in the FA Cup final, so not all is yet lost for them.
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Poor Manchester United... Crystal Palace destroyed them by 4-0. This is really a terrible season for the Red Devils. People tend to blame it on Erik ten Hag but I don't know. I don't think it is that simple to be honest. You can't expect him to do great things with the squad he has now. There have been big problems in defense this season. If they make the needed transfers this summer I think people will see that Erik ten Hag isn't the main problem. Smiley
Erik ten Hag is Manchester United major problem, if a team is not doing well the fault is always on the couch.

Talking about squad football is not always about squad ok when you take a look at Bayern Leverkusen players they don't have much squad but they won the Bundesliga, so will see that doing well in football is not always about having squad sometimes good relationship with the players and the manager matters alot.

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It was a really easy work for Liverpool to do. Tottenham are no longer like they were at the beginning of the season. Ange Postecoglou made a really good start first but their good progress didn't take too long.  Sad  I really want to see Tottenham more competitive. There are actually quite many talented players in the squad but they can't make use of it much.

Besides I wish Liverpool were able to perform like this on the previous weeks as well. In this way they would have maintained their chance for the Premier League title. They really let down people in a season which is Klopp's last one here at the same time. Let's see what is waiting for us if they sign Arne Slot.

You can assume or even conclude the result of a league based on the performance of a club, like the way Tottenham was playing at the beginning of the season I know some clubs would have concluded that Tottenham would win the Premier League some months ago, but now the table has turned and Tottenham can barely win a match, and Ange Postecoglou making a good start and finding it hard to maintain that good start is what surprises me the most. Tottenham is good and if they continue and become consistent, they might be able to win the Premier League in the future, The only thing Tottenham players need is to work harder. and Liverpool is currently struggling and there is no way they can meet up with Manchester City and Arsenal, Their fans really had serious hope that they would be able to win the premier league when Manchester City is there Maybe if they play well next season, then they can win.
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Poor Manchester United... Crystal Palace destroyed them by 4-0. This is really a terrible season for the Red Devils. People tend to blame it on Erik ten Hag but I don't know. I don't think it is that simple to be honest. You can't expect him to do great things with the squad he has now. There have been big problems in defense this season. If they make the needed transfers this summer I think people will see that Erik ten Hag isn't the main problem. Smiley
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Arsenal have to wait for Manchester City results because they have more matches remaining, winning all the remaining matches is an obligation for Arsenal who are trying to win the title race. I predict Arsenal's fate will be the same as last season, those who managed to maintain their performance from the start of the season will end up disappointed at the end of the season. Manchester City is in its best performance in the last six matches in the Premier League, Guardiola troops managed to maintain their winning streak, their goal tally is also very good, they managed to score 24 goals and only conceded 5 times.

Fulham, who will be Manchester City opponent, is not consistently maintaining their performance, they have only been able to achieve two draws and one defeat in their last three matches. While Tottenham fate was worse than Fulham, the team that was thought to be able to hinder Manchester City progress actually suffered four consecutive defeats in the EPL. West Ham's fate is also not very good, three defeats and one draw make it very easy for Manchester City to beat them if Haaland and his friends perform as consistently as they did when they beat Wolves.

Arsenal has estimated that the possibility of winning a trophy is very small because Manchester City, who are at their best level, will face opponents who have slumped in the last few matches. However anything can happen in the match, Arsenal must rely on themselves to achieve victory in the remaining two matches while waiting for Manchester City results.
I am sure that even they are aware of the fact that Manchester City will not lose any more games, so they are not caring about it anymore. At the very least, they are trying to win games because they want to make sure that they are at second place and not go down to third place beneath Liverpool, so Arsenal still needs to win, they can't just let go, but if Liverpool was like 10 points behind, then Arsenal would have lost a lot more because they don't care, they are aware of the fact that Manchester City will just win every game, and just not care about anything else.

Obviously this isn't that easy, but we should realize that we need to make sure that everything goes very well for Arsenal, even a second place is not a bad deal.
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Tottenham experienced four consecutive defeats in the last five matches. I don't think Tottenham will be able to overtake Aston Villa to get a UCL ticket next season, but I have to admit that Tottenham's recent matches have been quite tough against top teams whose performance is stronger than themselves, maybe in In the next match, Tottenham could win and end their bad results.
Aston Villa will play Liverpool and Crystal Palace in their remaining matches. I'm not sure if Aston Villa can beat Liverpool. But I'm sure they can beat Crystal Palace. And with that one win they have secured fourth place even though Tottenham wiped out the rest of the match with a win. But even if Aston Villa loses to both teams, Tottenham's chances are still very small because they have to play City. This is a very difficult match. City are very motivated to win the match because they are competing with Arsenal. I can say Tottenham will get 5 defeats in a row.
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It was a really easy work for Liverpool to do. Tottenham are no longer like they were at the beginning of the season. Ange Postecoglou made a really good start first but their good progress didn't take too long.  Sad  I really want to see Tottenham more competitive. There are actually quite many talented players in the squad but they can't make use of it much.

Besides I wish Liverpool were able to perform like this on the previous weeks as well. In this way they would have maintained their chance for the Premier League title. They really let down people in a season which is Klopp's last one here at the same time. Let's see what is waiting for us if they sign Arne Slot.
It's hard to understand why Tottenham have become so bad now, they even lost to Newcastle and Chelsea with a big goals margin. it sounds strange to remember that they were the league leader at a certain time. At that game, Tottenham made Liverpool played so good when actually Liverpool is having struggle in the last few games.

It seems Ange Postecoglou needs a better squad to able to maintain their style of football. It's clear to see that when their important players are having performance, the whole team look poor. This could be avoided if the players have competition in the squad to fight for their place in the starting lineup. Anyway, Tottenham is still in the right track of building a strong team, if they keep in positive progression, they will be a competitive team in the future.
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