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winning 4:1 is not managing and since Luton Town was at the point of relegation there is no way that such a club would have been able to win against Liverpool I even expected more goals from Liverpool and the premier league is getting crazy, Liverpool is already at a sixty-point on the table, Luton playing 1:0 from first half might have given them the confidence to think they can win Liverpool, the second half was totally on a different level salah did not play because they knew it is not worth it, they are reserving him for more important matches, and Klopp is trying to use almost the same strategy with the city, and the way Liverpool wants to go they might end up winning the premier league. Liverpool winning Chelsea just likely be difficult because look at the way Chelsea played Manchester City this should make everyone worried, but even at that Liverpool are good, and don't be surprised that they will win Chelsea. this season just looks different from other seasons in the Premier League.

Important matches? Lol... Believe me all matches are important for Liverpool if they're so interested in winning the Premier league competition.
Every game should be like a finals to them. The only way I feel like they'd drop form with the too much games to play when eventually begin playing the Europa League Competition  beginning from the month of march. 
If they can avoid injuries, fatigue and can be consistent,  then they can go ahead to win either of the Premier League Competition pr the European Europa League Competition.

I do think Mo Salah was dropped fro the finals they'd be playing against Chelsea come Sunday. It could be the first trophy for either Pochettino Mauricio or Jurgen Klopp.
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Liverpool managed to win with a big score again this time the team they beat was Luton, despite the defeat of Arsenal Liverpool managed to score more than two goals in the last few games, and winning 4-1 from Luton was one of them even though they were behind because Luton was the first to score, but indeed Luton was not an equal opponent for Liverpool and Luton's defeat made them in the relegation zone and only the difference in the number of goals from Everton above them.
Mohammad Salah did not play in this match, and it looks like Klopp really wants his flagship player to be fit for the Carabao Cup final this Sunday and if Liverpool manages to beat Chelsea then this will be their first title this season and they still have several other opportunities because as far as they still have a great opportunity to get several titles.
winning 4:1 is not managing and since Luton Town was at the point of relegation there is no way that such a club would have been able to win against Liverpool I even expected more goals from Liverpool and the premier league is getting crazy, Liverpool is already at a sixty-point on the table, Luton playing 1:0 from first half might have given them the confidence to think they can win Liverpool, the second half was totally on a different level salah did not play because they knew it is not worth it, they are reserving him for more important matches, and Klopp is trying to use almost the same strategy with the city, and the way Liverpool wants to go they might end up winning the premier league. Liverpool winning Chelsea just likely be difficult because look at the way Chelsea played Manchester City this should make everyone worried, but even at that Liverpool are good, and don't be surprised that they will win Chelsea. this season just looks different from other seasons in the Premier League.
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This was an extremely good comeback win for Liverpool. At the beginning of the match, despite controlling the play, due to the absence of Salah and Nunez, Liverpool could not score a goal. And Luton woke Liverpool up after opening the score. But it wasn't until the second half that Liverpool was able to equalize and win. This is an extremely important victory for Liverpool, helping them continue to lead the rankings. Besides, this victory helps Liverpool's mentality be extremely comfortable to welcome Chelsea in the Carabao Cup final this weekend.
Liverpool is a solid club, so they don't need to have a star player in order to score a goal, as we can see the goal scorer in Liverpool is way more diffused even though Salah is the highest goalscorer for Liverpool in this season.

Luton Town is nothing if we compare to big clubs, they even lose against Manchester United and Sheffield United, so nothing surprised they can win in this match.
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Well Manchester United were one team over the past few years whose performance haven’t really been stable. They turned to a laughing stock in the league and the continent, Europe as a whole and that’s one crazy thing because they’re a big club. They’re a big club and being a laughing stock is one crazy thing or attribute that shouldn’t be attached to their name. Well the management came under fire, the coach also came under fire because of his wrong choice of signings and substitutions; moreso most of the players too came under fire for how poorly they perform in the team.

 One good thing is that they were able to still stick around and maintain the team and now they’re leaving up to expectation. This 2024 has been an amazing start for them as they’ve maintained positive start this year and had great results which have now changed and shaped this team. Now we’re seeing them as a UCL spot contender if they’re able to maintain this positive start. Talks about comparism of Rasmus and Erling at this stage isn’t needed though. Yes because it could get into the head of Rasmus and he then underperforms. So I feel they both have different ability though they play similarly but I think Erling still stand clear. Though Rasmus is young and can still achieve a lot if he keeps up the fire.
In fact, Manchester United managed to show progress last season where they managed to close the season in 3rd place and this is progress that has been made by Erik Ten Hag. But this season, Manchester United's performance has declined again because until the 25th match, Manchester United had not yet managed to return to the top 4 rankings. For this reason, if we measure their strength to compete for the title, of course they are not quite ready to do it because in my opinion, Erik Ten Jag has to make many changes to bring Manchester United back into the title race.

But in my opinion Manchester United inconsistency is none other than because many of their players have experienced a setback in their performance this season. In terms of defense, they are experiencing big problems which may have to be fixed at the end of this season and also for the front line, of course Manchester United needs quality stickers when it comes to scoring goals. For this season I think Manchester United's target is only to return to the top 4 rankings.

They had a tough Pre-season over the states and couldn't prepare well for the new season, in short they came into the competition with lots of names Injured how do you expect the manager to work with his team in such way?
Players to be used for selections would be out Injured and would not be able to project the plans of the manager. The defense at most suffered since they lost Lisandro Martinez during that Europa League Competition against Sevilla. Do you know that since then, Manchester United hasn't done hundred percent defending for me.

For Erik Ten Hag to do changes, it has to come from the management,they all have to sit together and know what next to do for the club and to win trophies.
He is so far a good manager, I would be excited to see him stay Manchester United needs him.
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Liverpool managed to win with a big score again this time the team they beat was Luton, despite the defeat of Arsenal Liverpool managed to score more than two goals in the last few games, and winning 4-1 from Luton was one of them even though they were behind because Luton was the first to score, but indeed Luton was not an equal opponent for Liverpool and Luton's defeat made them in the relegation zone and only the difference in the number of goals from Everton above them.
This was an extremely good comeback win for Liverpool. At the beginning of the match, despite controlling the play, due to the absence of Salah and Nunez, Liverpool could not score a goal. And Luton woke Liverpool up after opening the score. But it wasn't until the second half that Liverpool was able to equalize and win. This is an extremely important victory for Liverpool, helping them continue to lead the rankings. Besides, this victory helps Liverpool's mentality be extremely comfortable to welcome Chelsea in the Carabao Cup final this weekend.
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~snip~But in my opinion Manchester United inconsistency is none other than because many of their players have experienced a setback in their performance this season. In terms of defense, they are experiencing big problems which may have to be fixed at the end of this season and also for the front line, of course Manchester United needs quality stickers when it comes to scoring goals. For this season I think Manchester United's target is only to return to the top 4 rankings.

If you look at the current standings where Aston Villa is with 49 points and Manchester United with 44 points, I think it is not impossible to achieve if United is able to play consistently in every match. I agree with you that it is a reasonable target. But I also see United's problem is that they don't have a great finisher who is able to convert every opportunity into a goal. They also lacked in defense and we can see how United were beaten because they had a weak defense. I think these two sectors need to be improved in the next season.
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Liverpool managed to win with a big score again this time the team they beat was Luton, despite the defeat of Arsenal Liverpool managed to score more than two goals in the last few games, and winning 4-1 from Luton was one of them even though they were behind because Luton was the first to score, but indeed Luton was not an equal opponent for Liverpool and Luton's defeat made them in the relegation zone and only the difference in the number of goals from Everton above them.
Mohammad Salah did not play in this match, and it looks like Klopp really wants his flagship player to be fit for the Carabao Cup final this Sunday and if Liverpool manages to beat Chelsea then this will be their first title this season and they still have several other opportunities because as far as they still have a great opportunity to get several titles.
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~snip~But in my opinion Manchester United inconsistency is none other than because many of their players have experienced a setback in their performance this season. In terms of defense, they are experiencing big problems which may have to be fixed at the end of this season and also for the front line, of course Manchester United needs quality stickers when it comes to scoring goals. For this season I think Manchester United's target is only to return to the top 4 rankings.

Because in terms of defense, Manchester United is quite weak, therefore Manchester United will be looking for a new defender. It is common knowledge that Manchester United is hunting for a new center back. In the summer, they may be left behind by Raphael Varane and Jonny Evans, whose contracts expire on June 30 2024. Many top defenders have been linked with Manchester United, such as Marc Guehi from Crystal Palace, who is a young player who will be a good central defender with still strong form. Guehi, who is a former Chelsea player, is rumored to be priced at around 50 million pounds in the summer transfer market.
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Well Manchester United were one team over the past few years whose performance haven’t really been stable. They turned to a laughing stock in the league and the continent, Europe as a whole and that’s one crazy thing because they’re a big club. They’re a big club and being a laughing stock is one crazy thing or attribute that shouldn’t be attached to their name. Well the management came under fire, the coach also came under fire because of his wrong choice of signings and substitutions; moreso most of the players too came under fire for how poorly they perform in the team.

 One good thing is that they were able to still stick around and maintain the team and now they’re leaving up to expectation. This 2024 has been an amazing start for them as they’ve maintained positive start this year and had great results which have now changed and shaped this team. Now we’re seeing them as a UCL spot contender if they’re able to maintain this positive start. Talks about comparism of Rasmus and Erling at this stage isn’t needed though. Yes because it could get into the head of Rasmus and he then underperforms. So I feel they both have different ability though they play similarly but I think Erling still stand clear. Though Rasmus is young and can still achieve a lot if he keeps up the fire.
In fact, Manchester United managed to show progress last season where they managed to close the season in 3rd place and this is progress that has been made by Erik Ten Hag. But this season, Manchester United's performance has declined again because until the 25th match, Manchester United had not yet managed to return to the top 4 rankings. For this reason, if we measure their strength to compete for the title, of course they are not quite ready to do it because in my opinion, Erik Ten Jag has to make many changes to bring Manchester United back into the title race.

But in my opinion Manchester United inconsistency is none other than because many of their players have experienced a setback in their performance this season. In terms of defense, they are experiencing big problems which may have to be fixed at the end of this season and also for the front line, of course Manchester United needs quality stickers when it comes to scoring goals. For this season I think Manchester United's target is only to return to the top 4 rankings.
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No arguments with how disastrous Manchester United has been over the past few years and also this season but 2024 has been a great year for them, with goals scored, injured players returning and also the both the manager and the squad having most of them decisions correctly. If they can maintain this same energy and strength they can surely go ahead to become those who'll sure qualify for the Champions League Competition next season. It's also important they do so, so as to see them management spend good money to recruit players.

For Rasmus Hojlund and Erling Haaland? I will not compare. One of them is a Manchester United player and the other one has got to be a Manchester City player.
I can only talk about Manchester United right. Erling good no doubts but it's the reasons why Rasmus is signed young so they grow up with the squad together.
Well Manchester United were one team over the past few years whose performance haven’t really been stable. They turned to a laughing stock in the league and the continent, Europe as a whole and that’s one crazy thing because they’re a big club. They’re a big club and being a laughing stock is one crazy thing or attribute that shouldn’t be attached to their name. Well the management came under fire, the coach also came under fire because of his wrong choice of signings and substitutions; moreso most of the players too came under fire for how poorly they perform in the team.

 One good thing is that they were able to still stick around and maintain the team and now they’re leaving up to expectation. This 2024 has been an amazing start for them as they’ve maintained positive start this year and had great results which have now changed and shaped this team. Now we’re seeing them as a UCL spot contender if they’re able to maintain this positive start. Talks about comparism of Rasmus and Erling at this stage isn’t needed though. Yes because it could get into the head of Rasmus and he then underperforms. So I feel they both have different ability though they play similarly but I think Erling still stand clear. Though Rasmus is young and can still achieve a lot if he keeps up the fire.

He's doing cool ( Rasmus Hojlund  ) locked in and keeping his head high up. He has joined other youngins in the premier league competition to score  dame goals they have scored. The records are not well clear to me but I know during the game against Luton Town he was he set up two records.
Asides him I want to see others scoring both Rashford and also Garnacho. Even Amad Diallo should be given enough game time to play, at least he bring a different energy and a big threat to these defenders.

As Manchester United host Fulham during the weekend,  they should rest Bruno Fernández for Eriksen,  he should have a chance to play do Bruno can be fresh when Manchester United go against Manchester City.
Third of March would not be easy one, Manchester United has got to be so ready as they'd be hosted by Manchester City at the Etihad.  But I sure believe it's a game they're to win.
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No arguments with how disastrous Manchester United has been over the past few years and also this season but 2024 has been a great year for them, with goals scored, injured players returning and also the both the manager and the squad having most of them decisions correctly. If they can maintain this same energy and strength they can surely go ahead to become those who'll sure qualify for the Champions League Competition next season. It's also important they do so, so as to see them management spend good money to recruit players.

For Rasmus Hojlund and Erling Haaland? I will not compare. One of them is a Manchester United player and the other one has got to be a Manchester City player.
I can only talk about Manchester United right. Erling good no doubts but it's the reasons why Rasmus is signed young so they grow up with the squad together.
Well Manchester United were one team over the past few years whose performance haven’t really been stable. They turned to a laughing stock in the league and the continent, Europe as a whole and that’s one crazy thing because they’re a big club. They’re a big club and being a laughing stock is one crazy thing or attribute that shouldn’t be attached to their name. Well the management came under fire, the coach also came under fire because of his wrong choice of signings and substitutions; moreso most of the players too came under fire for how poorly they perform in the team.

 One good thing is that they were able to still stick around and maintain the team and now they’re leaving up to expectation. This 2024 has been an amazing start for them as they’ve maintained positive start this year and had great results which have now changed and shaped this team. Now we’re seeing them as a UCL spot contender if they’re able to maintain this positive start. Talks about comparism of Rasmus and Erling at this stage isn’t needed though. Yes because it could get into the head of Rasmus and he then underperforms. So I feel they both have different ability though they play similarly but I think Erling still stand clear. Though Rasmus is young and can still achieve a lot if he keeps up the fire.
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What do you think? Would Liverpool give another opportunity to Manchester City in the remaining weeks? At least until facing Manchester City I believe Liverpool won't lose points against either Luton or Nottingham.

As Salah has also returned hopefully Liverpool can defeat Manchester City at Anfield to gain a huge advantage for the championship.  Roll Eyes

This is a very profitable result for Liverpool. They are still 1 point ahead after a few weeks before everyone thought City would be able to overtake Liverpool because they had 2 games left. But the surprising result that happened to City made the situation change and Liverpool still leads the standings.

If you look at City's match, Liverpool should also be wary of surprises from mediocre teams. Nobody thinks City will draw against Chelsea. So Liverpool also have to remain alert and show their best game.
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I know he knows how to find himself in the right spaces and it's also good to see that he has taken some of the advice given to him by Van Persie on how to excel in the Premier League.
He hasn't had the chances he had now before Manchester United player's weren't creating enough of it. I hope Garnacho also joins and puts up a good game and acore more goals.

Criticism are good they'll either pull you down and take you up base on your mentality. He choose to grow aks it's having the better of him.
Luton Town are not doing badly, but good for Manchester United to have taken the chances they've always wanted.
Hojlund has always been seen as a great striker and unfortunately he is in a mismanaged team right now. If yo uswap Haaland and Hojlund, I bet you that Hojlund would have more goals. This isn't to say that Hojlund is better, of course I think Haaland is better, but if you put Haaland in United, even he wouldn't be all that amazing, not because Haaland is bad, but because United is bad.

Hojlund had to deal with all of that, the yare just tiny bit better and that is why I think that it is not all that easy to handle for him to overcome but will have periods like these. I seriously would say if Madrid got him instead of United, it would have been much more awesome for both Madrid (they would finally have a striker) and for Hojlund as well.

No arguments with how disastrous Manchester United has been over the past few years and also this season but 2024 has been a great year for them, with goals scored, injured players returning and also the both the manager and the squad having most of them decisions correctly. If they can maintain this same energy and strength they can surely go ahead to become those who'll sure qualify for the Champions League Competition next season. It's also important they do so, so as to see them management spend good money to recruit players.

For Rasmus Hojlund and Erling Haaland? I will not compare. One of them is a Manchester United player and the other one has got to be a Manchester City player.
I can only talk about Manchester United right. Erling good no doubts but it's the reasons why Rasmus is signed young so they grow up with the squad together.
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Liverpool players must be very happy that their most serious opponent in the title race stumbled against Chelsea.  Grin  Because that point loss has brought Liverpool into an advantageous situation once again. Today even if Manchester City win their absent game against Brentford they will still be one point behind Liverpool in the league standings.

What do you think? Would Liverpool give another opportunity to Manchester City in the remaining weeks? At least until facing Manchester City I believe Liverpool won't lose points against either Luton or Nottingham.

As Salah has also returned hopefully Liverpool can defeat Manchester City at Anfield to gain a huge advantage for the championship.  Roll Eyes
Liverpool need to maintain their focus and momentum in the remaining fixtures. While they may have favorable matchups against teams like Luton and Nottingham, they can't underestimate any opponent in the Premier League. They shouldn't repeat the same mistake which is loss/draw to weaker teams when they are in advantageous position, like they were draw against Luton previously.

The return of key players like Salah certainly bolsters Liverpool's chances of success in the upcoming matches. His presence adds a significant attacking threat and could make a difference in pivotal games, such as the anticipated clash against Manchester City at Anfield. Liverpool must approach each game with determination and a winning mentality, while also being mindful of the strengths and weaknesses of their opponents. Liverpool may have an opportunity to gain a significant advantage over Manchester City in the title race.
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Honestly Arsenal seems to be a lot more likely to win the league then seeing Liverpool win it, why? Because while Liverpool does look like they are winning, they are not really doing all that well neither, they are looking like a team that is barely scarping by. Maybe that's me, but that game they have looks a lot more like luck at some point, and yeah nobody can win with that much luck, they win so much, it can't be luck but it just feels like it.

Nunez alone feels like he is a very weird individual, who happens to score at times. In the end, I feel like City, Arsenal and Liverpool trio are going at it until the very last moments, and whoever ends up winning, the other two will be pretty upset about the result because they would be so close and yet still lose.
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I was wondering why the Luton player didn't pass the ball to the goalkeeper which was the best option in that situation, that mistake made Manchester United score the first goal, then Manchester United scored the second goal which made me laugh at situation in which the goal came in. But the mistakes weren't just made by Luton, Manchester United also conceded a goal that was very similar to the second goal that Luton conceded. Then there was another error from Luton's defense in which Luton's goalkeeper made a wrong pass and the Manchester player ended up with the ball and only didn't score a goal because he wasn't calm enough and creative when taking the shot.
The first was an individual error, the second a fluke.
But nothing to be ashamed. Luton put up a good fight and stood his ground till the end.
Luton is the only promoted team still digging in.
I think Luton has something special, playing some great stuff, and I hope Luton can stay in this league and achieve great things.
Carry on like that, and they might do it.
It takes a team like this, that make the Premier League so watchable.

Well the Luton vs Manchester United game was one highly anticipated game. Yes it was anticipated because of how Chelsea got the draw at the Etihad and that game had many eyes to see if Manchester United will drop some points. This was a game that had many fuuny moments especially in all the 3 goals scored in this match. Manchester United got early goals in this match owing to mistakes made by the Luton defense line and the Striker was so sharp to convert on those chances and get ok the scoreboard. Moreover im return of the favour, Manchester United made her own errors which brings us down to the value of Onana in this Manchester United team because he’s a world class goalie that’s to stand up against these kind of errors but rather keeps conceding.

 After these errors in the first 25 minutes of the game, I think Luton then grew into the game. They didn’t just grow rather they understood the game and were in control of this game from the 1st half to the last minute though they weren’t able to convert their chances. This kind of performance from Luton is one that’s worthy of emulation especially from a team like Burnley who were champions of the Championship last season. I think Luton are one average team that needsthe right signings and investment and time as they’ve really upped their game in the league.
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Liverpool players must be very happy that their most serious opponent in the title race stumbled against Chelsea.  Grin  Because that point loss has brought Liverpool into an advantageous situation once again. Today even if Manchester City win their absent game against Brentford they will still be one point behind Liverpool in the league standings.

What do you think? Would Liverpool give another opportunity to Manchester City in the remaining weeks? At least until facing Manchester City I believe Liverpool won't lose points against either Luton or Nottingham.

As Salah has also returned hopefully Liverpool can defeat Manchester City at Anfield to gain a huge advantage for the championship.  Roll Eyes
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The game started well, but the Luton player made a serious mistake, this mistake:



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I was wondering why the Luton player didn't pass the ball to the goalkeeper which was the best option in that situation, that mistake made Manchester United score the first goal, then Manchester United scored the second goal which made me laugh at situation in which the goal came in. But the mistakes weren't just made by Luton, Manchester United also conceded a goal that was very similar to the second goal that Luton conceded. Then there was another error from Luton's defense in which Luton's goalkeeper made a wrong pass and the Manchester player ended up with the ball and only didn't score a goal because he wasn't calm enough and creative when taking the shot.

The first was an individual error, the second a fluke.
But nothing to be ashamed. Luton put up a good fight and stood his ground till the end.
Luton is the only promoted team still digging in.
I think Luton has something special, playing some great stuff, and I hope Luton can stay in this league and achieve great things.
Carry on like that, and they might do it.
It takes a team like this, that make the Premier League so watchable.
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Everton really must win the match vs Crystal Palace tomorrow, their position in the standings is really dangerous (they are on the verge of relegation), they are currently only able to get 19 points and are only 1 point different from Luton. Tomorrow they are the hosts, of course they have to be able to win narrowly against Crystal Palace.

Not only they failed to win, they were close to losing on their home ground scoring the equaliser only in the 84th minute of the game.
Now they have the same points as the 18th Luton, but Luton has one more game to play, so there's a big chance Everton will move in the red zone.
It's a shame, because they don't play that badly. They have only 33 goals scored against them (the same as 4th Aston Villa) but are seriously lacking in attacking power.
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Hojlund has always been seen as a great striker and unfortunately he is in a mismanaged team right now. If yo uswap Haaland and Hojlund, I bet you that Hojlund would have more goals. This isn't to say that Hojlund is better, of course I think Haaland is better, but if you put Haaland in United, even he wouldn't be all that amazing, not because Haaland is bad, but because United is bad.

I a gree with you. Hojlund is one of the best strikers currently. He is still very young so he could have the potential to develop further in the future. Although to be honest, Hojlund's quality is still below Haaland's, but as you said, Hojlund is in the wrong team. United were poor and Hojlund was not often provided with the ball from the middle. I hope Hojlund can get a better team in the future. But if you look at his contract which ends in 2028, I think Hojlund should try to attract the interest of other teams to buy him.
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