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We are about to return to the Premier League after the national break finally so it is time to revive this topic once again.  Grin

We are returning with an amazing game at the same time: Manchester City - Liverpool !

It is literally the situation because it is the opening game of the week.  Cheesy  The current odds for this game are like these:



Manchester City are quite favourite side to be the winner here naturally. But I don't know whether the performance gap would be exactly that much. I watched Manchester City against Chelsea in that spectacular and unforgettable game. Chelsea made quite much difficulties for them. Liverpool are technically a much more productive team than Chelsea this season.

For this reason I think that we will watch quite an enjoyable game. I expect BTTS and over 2.5 goals.
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Spending insane amount of money doesn't guarantee any success for any team. Chelsea's situation is showing this truth clearly. It looks like something bigger needs to change at this team. Otherwise Chelsea would continue to make their fans unhappy for many more seasons.  Sad  I'm not one of them but I would still like to see the competitive Chelsea back again. For example Eden Hazard's times were mostly amazing.

I can say that Roman Abramovich is Chelsea's DNA. I really miss the days when Abramovich was the owner of the Chelsea club. If we talk about eras, I think the Hazard era was truly extraordinary, but the era where there were players like Drogba, Makelele, Essien, Terry and Lampard was the era of Chelsea legends. I loved those times.
If you look at what is happening with Chelsea at the moment then I think it seems like this is the same thing that is happening with United. I just hope Chelsea can end these terrible seasons as soon as possible.
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Tomorrow's match will be a bit interesting when Wolves will welcome Tottenham and I think this time Tottenham will have to tone down their performance a little for several reasons, firstly, Cristian Romero and Destiny Udogie cannot be present in this match because of a red card violation when they faced Chelsea in the previous match and in one side several Tottenham players suffered injuries and could not force themselves to appear in the upcoming match.
So the bookie gives odds @ 2.19 for Tottenham because even though they are favorites, the chance of winning will be a little difficult and it is better to bet carefully in this match.
What do you think?
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I just don't know if it is really because of Pochettino now. Because this team were playing the same when they had Graham Potter as their coach as well. There is still not much difference between those times and now.

Spending insane amount of money doesn't guarantee any success for any team. Chelsea's situation is showing this truth clearly. It looks like something bigger needs to change at this team. Otherwise Chelsea would continue to make their fans unhappy for many more seasons.  Sad  I'm not one of them but I would still like to see the competitive Chelsea back again. For example Eden Hazard's times were mostly amazing.
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Furthermore given time I feel that Poch will buy less but more quality player’s because he’s also open about how they have spend too much and too fast hence I’m sure that he’ll only spend if there’s a genuine need for it.
Yes, it makes perfect sense and there is still plenty of time to give Pochettino the opportunity to improve Chelsea, even though many people still doubt Pochettino, but at least giving him a chance after the transfer window opens, there is no harm in it and I really agree that Pochettino has previously spent too much money on several players. and now Pochettino already knows Chelsea current weakness so it possible that he will sell several players and get more quality players. Like at that time I heard rumors that Chelsea would try to make a good offer to the player from series A, Osimhen.
Even though it a little impossible to get this player, we all dont know what will happen. on the one hand, Osimhen doesn't feel at home at his current club, whereas Chelsea has very good finances and even giving Osimhen a big salary is very easy.
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Tottenham could have really won that match if they didn't get those red cards. Instead they got a humiliating loss. I didn't expect this match to be the one to stop Tottenham to be honest. Because you know Chelsea. They have been dealing with serious problems in the recent seasons. They have made many transfers but still there is no improvement. They must have spent nearly 1 billion euros in the last 2 years.

Will this win make them start playing better and get positive results more in number? I have doubts about that.

@CLS63 I believe that Chelsea can improve their game further and thus win would have boosted their overall morale so let’s wait and see how they perform next. Furthermore given time I feel that Poch will buy less but more quality player’s because he’s also open about how they have spend too much and too fast hence I’m sure that he’ll only spend if there’s a genuine need for it.
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Tottenham could have really won that match if they didn't get those red cards.
Of course Tottenham Hotspur would have won the match because there is know way we can compare Tottenham Hotspur and Chelsea performance because it was obvious that the wining was for Tottenham Hotspur if not for the red card and the injuries most of there players has, so that's were there losing started.

Perhaps if Tottenham Hotspur would have won the match they would have maintain there position as number one on the premier League table but now it will be very difficult for them to go back to first on the table because Manchester city on the other hand will make sure to win all there upcoming matches in other to remain the first on premier league table.
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Tottenham could have really won that match if they didn't get those red cards. Instead they got a humiliating loss. I didn't expect this match to be the one to stop Tottenham to be honest. Because you know Chelsea. They have been dealing with serious problems in the recent seasons. They have made many transfers but still there is no improvement. They must have spent nearly 1 billion euros in the last 2 years.

Will this win make them start playing better and get positive results more in number? I have doubts about that.
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Yesterday Tottenham vs Chelsea match between two teams in Premier League, Chelsea team played very well for which Chelsea team won the match by scoring 4 goals. Tottenham scored the first goal in the first 6 minutes of the game. But Tottenham team scored the first goal in this match.  After that, Tottenham could not win this match. I did not expect such a strong team to perform so badly. Tottenham team did not win this match because of the poor performance of Tottenham team players.

It was one of the most interesting matches of the season. Normally Tottenham were absolutely the favourite side to win. Those red cards brought their end in this match. Actually they were still able to create dangerous attacks against Chelsea even in that situation. Eric Dier was offside otherwise it was a really nice goal. There was another chance wasted just in front of the goal line. I can't imagine how this match would have ended without the red cards. I don't expect this match to be a big motivation for Chelsea honestly. They are still not credible.

By the way Nicolas Jackson made a hat-trick. He was quite selfish though as he didn't prefer passing the ball to Mudryk 2 times. But I guess it was due to the ambition of proving himself to the fans.
I was not impressed with yesterday's match even though some people still say that Chelsea's performance was very good and it was an interesting match, but for me it wasn't.
If only Tottenham didn't get 2 red cards, most likely the match would have turned the other way. Tottenham won but unfortunately luck came for Chelsea when Tottenham players got 2 red cards.
It's just about luck, not because of Chelsea's good performance.
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Yesterday Tottenham vs Chelsea match between two teams in Premier League, Chelsea team played very well for which Chelsea team won the match by scoring 4 goals. Tottenham scored the first goal in the first 6 minutes of the game. But Tottenham team scored the first goal in this match.  After that, Tottenham could not win this match. I did not expect such a strong team to perform so badly. Tottenham team did not win this match because of the poor performance of Tottenham team players.

It was one of the most interesting matches of the season. Normally Tottenham were absolutely the favourite side to win. Those red cards brought their end in this match. Actually they were still able to create dangerous attacks against Chelsea even in that situation. Eric Dier was offside otherwise it was a really nice goal. There was another chance wasted just in front of the goal line. I can't imagine how this match would have ended without the red cards. I don't expect this match to be a big motivation for Chelsea honestly. They are still not credible.

By the way Nicolas Jackson made a hat-trick. He was quite selfish though as he didn't prefer passing the ball to Mudryk 2 times. But I guess it was due to the ambition of proving himself to the fans.
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Yesterday Tottenham vs Chelsea match between two teams in Premier League, Chelsea team played very well for which Chelsea team won the match by scoring 4 goals. Tottenham scored the first goal in the first 6 minutes of the game. But Tottenham team scored the first goal in this match.  After that, Tottenham could not win this match. I did not expect such a strong team to perform so badly. Tottenham team did not win this match because of the poor performance of Tottenham team players.
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There was a Nottingham - Aston Villa game today and it finished very surprisingly. Despite Aston Villa's domination Nottingham won by 2-0 anyway. Especially in the second half Aston Villa made a huge effort for making a comeback. I wish I saw the same level of effort in the first half also. Then maybe Nottinham wouldn't have got away with that.  Sad

Up next Liverpool are playing a comfortable away game against Luton. It is about to start in 15 minutes. Honestly my expectation is nothing different than an easy victory.

Because Luton aren't a team that can get points from top teams which are in-form. But they lost to Tottenham home by only one-goal difference for example. Liverpool had better not to underestimate them if they want to win easier.

I never expect forest to get cleansheet against aston villa. Villa's performance look so horrible in this game. Congratulation for forest by acquiring three points from villa but this is a very bad result achieved by emery's squad.
Forest was making three goal attempts as well as villa. Despite Villa's control of the game, their lack of accurate shooting resulted in fewer chances and ultimately made their ball possession meaningless.
Villa was using a counter attack strategy once it was facing a strong club but this time forest is using low blocks against villa. It makes villa is quiet struggling in attacking forest. Forest is always having good defense.
This is not a lucky day for aston villa. The attacks were underperform unlike the previous matches. The team's ability to consistently challenge and defeat weaker clubs is something that I am not familiar with when it comes to Villa.
What's wrong with this club?

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Up next Liverpool are playing a comfortable away game against Luton. It is about to start in 15 minutes. Honestly my expectation is nothing different than an easy victory.

Because Luton aren't a team that can get points from top teams which are in-form. But they lost to Tottenham home by only one-goal difference for example. Liverpool had better not to underestimate them if they want to win easier.
Football is not that easy to predict a winner and comfortably have the results that way, you should always expect the unexpected. Even though Liverpool is a better side to Luton it still doesn't mean we should write off Luton not been capable to put up a big fight against the reds today playing at home It's usually that underdogs that huts us with that unexpected result we may be expecting from a bigger opponent.

Nevertheless, Liverpool has no option but to win this game today to stay number one on the EPL table ahead of Arsenal who are currently ontop of the table with just one point above Liverpool. So with a win against Luton today Liverpool will be having a clear tow points ahead of Arsenal who  lost their last match to Newcastle through a controversial 1:0 defeat playing away.
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There was a Nottingham - Aston Villa game today and it finished very surprisingly. Despite Aston Villa's domination Nottingham won by 2-0 anyway. Especially in the second half Aston Villa made a huge effort for making a comeback. I wish I saw the same level of effort in the first half also. Then maybe Nottinham wouldn't have got away with that.  Sad

Up next Liverpool are playing a comfortable away game against Luton. It is about to start in 15 minutes. Honestly my expectation is nothing different than an easy victory.

Because Luton aren't a team that can get points from top teams which are in-form. But they lost to Tottenham home by only one-goal difference for example. Liverpool had better not to underestimate them if they want to win easier.
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I really don't understand what is going on with Chelsea. Whoever they bring to the squad as a striker they just start playing much worse. It was the situation for Timo Werner considering his performance at Leipzig for example. Now it is the same for Nicolas Jackson. He was quite good and promising while he was playing for Villarreal.

But now this guy can't even finish absolute goal chances.  Sad  I don't know how long this will go on. Hopefully it comes to an end by Nkunku's return.

If Chelsea manage to improve their finishing side with the help of Nkunku then I would be hopeful about them to get wins more often.

I think that Chelsea's problem is mental, there is nothing else there, everything that has to do with that team is that it can be read with that for me what can give is that basically the team when it has to do something to get out from where he is, he has to remember how he Played against Arsenal, where he showed that everything can be different, so in this order of ideas we can go further when the attitude of the teams is like this, then in this order of ideas the coach is the one who can score the difference is when it is going to go in another direction we have to show what is better, against Arsenal they did things very well, the only bad thing was that they let each other tie, maybe the team will be going through a bad trick, all teams go into crisis and can have behavior like this , I'm sure they will consider the way to get ahead without any problems , of course the teams in the PL are very tough, they have a very high level and this can be more complicated for them if they are going through a very bad streak.

Sometimes a parotciular player can make a difference yes, but it is not the solution, because this is a game of 11 players, not just 1 and in particular, then when we do not put ourselves to see in a PL match it is like a final, all the matches must be a final, because I have not seen a team that could be weak, although for me the weakest of All at this Moment is the MU that has a very bad Performance, and that means that Things could be more difficult for the players, this is what Chelsea can take advantage of , play and ensure these matches, even though the MU has a very high level of squad, because they can make the difference, when we are thinking about what can happen , it is very inconclusive, you can guarantee the best for everyone, but you cannot do things like manage everything as if they were Robots, for me Chelsea's Problem is one of Attitude , they have to Believe it more.
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Manchester united are currently playing against Fulham awa from home, they would been leading with a goal but it goy cancelled by the VAR, it was very wrong call by the VAR cause if was harsh to disallow a clean goal my McTominay,however I'm seeing a very big changes in the starting line-up of Manchester United, he's rested alot of players and Aaron wanbissaka is back which a big advantage to united on the defensive side.

 Erik Ten has been given the grace of 2 games to save his managerial Career they're playing well and dominating 60% of the possession however they need to win this game to save the coach his career,currently both sides are very careful to concede a goal but I think Manchester United are favorites to win based on their possession in he game however they're very strong defensively.

VAR against Manchester United this season hasn't been easy, it seems like VAR has a direct beef with Manchester United in a way and has never favoured them well this season.
Against Arsenal, Tottenham and Last I can remember is against Copenhagen during the last Champions League game they played in the month of October.

One Match successfully won, thanks to the fans Bruno Fernandez and the rest of the players who have all fought hard to make sure Erik Ten Hag stays as the club Manager.
Copenhagen won't come clean, they will come together and stronger than they did two weeks ago!
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OH shitttt!!!! I looked at the board and saw that MU was ahead 1-0 against Fulham, but when I opened my streaming app, the score went back to 0-0 for United. It seems like that goal was offside and this is also a sense reason why the referee was anulling the goal from MU. What an unlucky day for manchester united. Fulham is quite strong at this moment too. Willian still contributes a lot to the club. It looks so pathetic to see how antony played so garbage.

Willian is far better than him. Fulham seems gain its confidence in this match. I think that manchester united is in a difficult position if the club keeps lose to dominate the ball against fulham.

A threat for manchester united was willian as this guy is able to move so fast. Manchester united will be lose if the club still plays like this. I rarely see manchester united is pressuring fulham.
Fulham is performing quite better this time compared with the previous games.

It was offside, that is why referee have to cancel the goal to make the score table look 0-0 which the Manchester united player that scored the ball knew he was offside, and this is a sign that Fulham will defeat Manchester united 2-1 in this match because their display is more mature than Manchester united in this few minutes. If you observe the match very well, you will know that Fulham midfield and defense is well organized to create smooth opportunity to their strikers soon , because it look like Manchester united want to form strong in this first half. Manchester united can only fight for a draw match which Fulham will never allow it to happen in their home than to disgrace them 2-1 to achieve the three points.
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OH shitttt!!!! I looked at the board and saw that MU was ahead 1-0 against Fulham, but when I opened my streaming app, the score went back to 0-0 for United. It seems like that goal was offside and this is also a sense reason why the referee was anulling the goal from MU. What an unlucky day for manchester united. Fulham is quite strong at this moment too. Willian still contributes a lot to the club. It looks so pathetic to see how antony played so garbage.

Willian is far better than him. Fulham seems gain its confidence in this match. I think that manchester united is in a difficult position if the club keeps lose to dominate the ball against fulham.

A threat for manchester united was willian as this guy is able to move so fast. Manchester united will be lose if the club still plays like this. I rarely see manchester united is pressuring fulham.
Fulham is performing quite better this time compared with the previous games.


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Manchester united are currently playing against Fulham awa from home, they would been leading with a goal but it goy cancelled by the VAR, it was very wrong call by the VAR cause if was harsh to disallow a clean goal my McTominay,however I'm seeing a very big changes in the starting line-up of Manchester United, he's rested alot of players and Aaron wanbissaka is back which a big advantage to united on the defensive side.

 Erik Ten has been given the grace of 2 games to save his managerial Career they're playing well and dominating 60% of the possession however they need to win this game to save the coach his career,currently both sides are very careful to concede a goal but I think Manchester United are favorites to win based on their possession in he game however they're very strong defensively.
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Ten Hag is a stubborn coach,and won't listen to what people tell him,If he was to listen to Man U legends,he would have changed his tactics and bench some players that he constantly uses.All he needs to do is to change pattern and tactics to be able to win games.
Manchester United are not excluded from the many injuries challenges that many clubs in the premier League are facing so the coach of Manchester United also has a limited option of players to choose from for each game. take for instance if you look at the lineup for this full hand game currently ongoing you notice that there is no Rashford because he picked up a slight injury while in training and Victor lindelof is also not available because he's out ill. Casemiro is also injured again just after recovery. So many problems for Manchester, but they're lucky that this Fulham team is a struggling side that is a lesser threat from the team they were last season so even with the strange lineup for this game it is possible that Manchester United win the game.
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