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Quote from: Distraction on October 22, 2023, 06:30:34 AM

Chelsea really could have won this big match. But I would absolutely blame it on Robert Sanchez here that Chelsea lost 2 points by conceding late goals. He made really simple mistakes on both goals truthfully. First the misplaced pass leading to a comfortable goal and later on not being able to save the shot although the ball was coming directly towards himself.

I must admit one thing also that Mudryk's goal was spectacular. Grin

It was such a classy goal that I wouldn't be surprised if it is voted for the goal of the week. Anyway we saw some progress from Chelsea but I hope they can find a solution to their weaknesses as soon as possible.

Sanchez is the reason why chelsea was getting comeback by arsenal yet pochettino should be blamed in this game as well. I meant let's try to take a look at what happened during the game. Sanchez has performed so badly by making unnecessary blunder but pochettino was also making it even worst by put jackson it and replace mudryk which was consistently contributing a lot. Murdryk was alwasy able in pressing its opponent. I saw that the left wing back of arsenal was facing difficulty in beating mudryk 1 on 1. It's caused by he has a very fast speed.
This is also the main reason why pochettino shall also be blamed by the fans as well. The contribution being made by mudryk is very big compared with jackson which was obviously contributed zero to the club during his game.
Pochettino was making arsenal feel confuses by putting sterling as a striker but this guy can also play as winger as well. Pochettino was also fucked the club too with his non sense decision.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 22, 2023, 01:42:29 PM

Emery is such an amazing manager honestly. Wherever he goes he still continues to manage the teams in the same way. He is always managing to be successful. Aston Villa are only 2 points behind the leader now. This must be like a dream start for them. They will need to finish in top 5 or win the Europa Conference League title to have a ticket for a European competition again. The Premier League task seems more difficult to me but they still have an alternative to that.

Currently the competition in the Premier League is still very tight and even though there is only a difference of 2 points, Aston Villa is in fifth place and the competition in the top 5 is very fierce. I think Aston Villa can at least secure 4th or 5th place but as you said it will be more difficult to get a Champions League ticket in the League than in UEFA competitions. I believe Aston Villa is the favorite to win the UEFA competition.

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Aston Villa are still going on incredibly well. They have increased their unbeaten series to 5 games by this enormous win over West Ham by 4-1. Douglas Luiz really made difference.

Emery is such an amazing manager honestly. Wherever he goes he still continues to manage the teams in the same way. He is always managing to be successful. Aston Villa are only 2 points behind the leader now. This must be like a dream start for them. They will need to finish in top 5 or win the Europa Conference League title to have a ticket for a European competition again. The Premier League task seems more difficult to me but they still have an alternative to that.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 22, 2023, 06:30:34 AM

Chelsea really could have won this big match. But I would absolutely blame it on Robert Sanchez here that Chelsea lost 2 points by conceding late goals. He made really simple mistakes on both goals truthfully. First the misplaced pass leading to a comfortable goal and later on not being able to save the shot although the ball was coming directly towards himself.

Sanchez's mistake was so massive. It was also destroying the mentality owned by the club through his one mistake. I don't even know what sanchez think but his mistake was obviously unacceptable. He was passing to the teammate who has been pressed by arsenal's player.
It's very bad decision making by him. Sanchez needs to learn from this mistake but surprisingly chelsea was able leading the game against arsenal. I can't really tolerate sanchez's mistake. he was making the gameplay of chelsea dropped drastically.

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I must admit one thing also that Mudryk's goal was spectacular. Grin

It was such a classy goal that I wouldn't be surprised if it is voted for the goal of the week. Anyway we saw some progress from Chelsea but I hope they can find a solution to their weaknesses as soon as possible.

Im thinking like that too. Mudryk had been showing how skillful he was. I never expect that if he was aiming for such angle which is very difficult to be raised. It seems like that mudryk's hard work is really paying off.
Mudryk will always become the main starter of chelsea. he needs only to increase his skill to control his handling. He is fast but he can only run straight.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on July 01, 2023, 04:17:05 AM

Have you heard of the news about Liverpool's possible offer for Mbappe in the near future? It is said that Liverpool will offer 300 million euros for him. I think PSG would be really willing to sell him in case there is an offer like that. Because even though PSG have to pay a lot of money to Mbappe in case of selling him early they will still be in a serious profit.

It is much better than letting him go without a transfer fee surely. In this case I assume that Liverpool wouldn't be the only team to make the same offer. Real Madrid have been monitoring his situation for a long time. I would expect them to meet the demands of PSG and Mbappe both undoubtedly.

In this case I don't think Liverpool's chance would be higher to sign him.

I see no team better for Mbappe than Madrid. Madrid are team that don't rush to sign players but once they have set you as there target then it will be very hard for y not to be there player. I still blame PSG why you should keep player that has shown you clearly that he is not willing to stay anymore but rather you persuaded him to the extent of paying more than what he deserves.

The kind of contract pen down by Mbappe that PSG are paying now is very high and at the end he will still leave because his contract expires by 2024 and he's yet to sign another contract. Mbappe's dream is too big that if he remain in PSG he can't actualise it and the best place for young stars to actualise their dreams and be brought to more light is Madrid.

In Madrid getting UCL and Balloon d'Or will be much more easier for him. By 2024 he will be going to Madrid for free which is quite unfortunate, so PSG can't make a dime from his departure.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 22, 2023, 06:30:34 AM

Chelsea really could have won this big match. But I would absolutely blame it on Robert Sanchez here that Chelsea lost 2 points by conceding late goals. He made really simple mistakes on both goals truthfully. First the misplaced pass leading to a comfortable goal and later on not being able to save the shot although the ball was coming directly towards himself.

I must admit one thing also that Mudryk's goal was spectacular. Grin

It was such a classy goal that I wouldn't be surprised if it is voted for the goal of the week. Anyway we saw some progress from Chelsea but I hope they can find a solution to their weaknesses as soon as possible.

Mikel Arteta again tried to control the ball with pressing and off the ball movements, while Pochettino dominated Arteta with tactical formations and substitutions until the 75th minute of the match. With Sterling as a pseudo-striker and Palmer as a right wing-back, Arteta had a tough game ahead of him. During the match, we saw how the Arsenal wingers, who are not yet fully conditioned, were not yet ready for such a physical match, how the rainy weather caused great problems for the teams who wanted to play the ball, and how Chelsea's team formation matched the skills of the players. Jorginho and Zinchenko at the same time doesn't suit against such physical power-fed teams. This will lead to Declan Rice tiring more and getting injured faster. Still, it's a positive to see Arteta making more sensible changes during the game.

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Chelsea really could have won this big match. But I would absolutely blame it on Robert Sanchez here that Chelsea lost 2 points by conceding late goals. He made really simple mistakes on both goals truthfully. First the misplaced pass leading to a comfortable goal and later on not being able to save the shot although the ball was coming directly towards himself.

I must admit one thing also that Mudryk's goal was spectacular. Grin

It was such a classy goal that I wouldn't be surprised if it is voted for the goal of the week. Anyway we saw some progress from Chelsea but I hope they can find a solution to their weaknesses as soon as possible.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 20, 2023, 03:01:17 PM

Chelsea need this win even more than Arsenal these days. They started the season really terrible and they are desperate to improve their form. They can't get consistent goal contribution from their forward players unfortunately. Indeed they have been quite well for a couple of weeks.

But it is still early to trust Chelsea in my opinion. Moreover Arsenal have been dominant against Chelsea in their last 3 head-to-heads too. They won all of them.

There is a quite big performance gap between these teams this season. As long as Arteta make his players fully ready for the match I don't expect them to get a surprising result.

The game is a 50/50 game for both Arsenal and Chelsea. But without siding either if the clubs since I'm neutral, Arsenal should win. If they could run down Manchester City with a goal. It might seem lucky but still, they have the potentials of winning the game tommorow.
Chelsea needs the win but they will not get it against Arsenal only if important defender's gets Injured.

Winning Arsenal, a side better than they are should be a good idea so they could use that too boost them confidence.

No excuses would be entertained, it's either a wine from any sides of draw. Pochetino has experienced difficulty winning Arsenal as a manager of Tottenham Hotspur, he would still lose again as he faces Arsenal for the first time with Chelsea tommorow.

Chelsea will really have a big task ahead today because defeating Arsenal will be one big thing to do,I think it will really be a hard nut to crack because we all see how Arsenal have grown in the last couple of seasons ago,and looking at Statistics,it only shows that Arsenal have more advantage in this game than Chelsea because in their last three meetings at Standford Bridge, Arsenal have always be winning,and therefore I ask think history is still saying that Arsenal still have an edge over Chelsea in this game.
But what I'm Still surprised about is the odd they've given to Arsenal in this game which is about 2.15 odds,and the last time they gave them this kind of odd was against City which they won.Therefore we would see how this game would end.

The players did well, fought hard time win the match, the coach as well had some big errors that can't be avoided. Pochetino winning two goals ahead should have made better substute. That alone spoiled the game.
Though for a Chelsea side striving to the top they have done well against a side that won against Manchester City last two weeks in the Premier League.

It's a derby, one point home from Arsenal is a good way to go about it. Arsenal now will have to focus on winning Sevilla in the Champions League. But that will be difficult. Chelsea do not have the qualities to do so

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I think that win by Arsenal over Manchester City in Emirates could be an indicator of a thing for this season. I mean Arsenal might maintain the title competition until the final week this time. You know how they fought for it last season for a long time. However they started a really bad streak on the final weeks which eased Manchester City's job a lot.

This time Arsenal seem even more dedicated at least for now. Winning against Manchester City in a big game isn't easy normally.

I completely agree with you because that was what Arsenal failed to do last season and it cost them to lose
the Premier League trophy to Manchester City. But to see Arsenal win over Manchester City at home indicates that Arsenal might win the league if Manchester City continues with their current form. Arsenal should keep on winning their games to have a very big point different from Manchester City before Kevin De Bruyne comes back from injury.

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On the other hand Tottenham are also likely to join this duo in the title competition if they go on like this. Ange Postecoglou has made a lot of progress so far.

I don't believe Tottenham has what it takes to win the Premier League trophy even with their current form. Tottenham is a club that always has a good start in EPL but as time proceeds they start struggling to win games.

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 20, 2023, 05:28:19 AM

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Chelsea not completely improved this season and is not much different from last season, but we also cannot confirm whether Chelsea will be able to recover and improve its performance little by little because this season is still long and in terms of appearance, Arsenal is much better when compared to Chelsea in the last two final season.

Even though Chelsea is playing as the home team, this will still be quite a tough match for Chelsea because they are facing a club that has not lost this season and looking at their record of 5 meetings, Arsenal dominates the victory against Chelsea so Arsenal will be the bookies favorite to bet on some money on the Arsenal club and I will also bet on Arsenal in that match.

This will indeed be a tough match for Chelsea because even when facing teams below Arsenal they face difficulties in winning, especially against Arsenal, and the two consecutive wins they managed to get cannot yet show that Chelsea has recovered, because the two teams they lost were teams which is quite weak, especially Burnley.
However, what is interesting is that even though Arsenal are the favorites to win this match, they have quite big odds in my opinion @ 2.23 and Chelsea @ 3.20, and a draw @ 3.15 on the betting market. If you are quite sure that Arsenal will win then immediately betting on the money line will be quite profitable, but I think a draw is still possible because of course, Chelsea don't want to disappoint their fans again at Stamford Bridge where this season they have lost twice at home and that is very painful for Chelsea who is struggling to recover from last season's downturn.

looking at Arsenal's odds which @ 2.23 are big enough odds so many will favor Arsenal in this match. Indeed, we can't predict whether Arsenal will be able to beat Chelsea in an away match, but I'm sure Arsenal will do it seriously to be able to get points and be able to win. is in first place, especially since Arsenal is in their best performance this season, but it is possible that Chelsea will give a surprise in this match, even though it is impossible, it could happen because there are always surprises in every match. Taking points from Arsenal is very important for Chelsea at this time to improve their position.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 20, 2023, 06:43:26 PM

Quote from: Distraction on October 20, 2023, 03:01:17 PM

Chelsea need this win even more than Arsenal these days. They started the season really terrible and they are desperate to improve their form. They can't get consistent goal contribution from their forward players unfortunately. Indeed they have been quite well for a couple of weeks.

But it is still early to trust Chelsea in my opinion. Moreover Arsenal have been dominant against Chelsea in their last 3 head-to-heads too. They won all of them.

There is a quite big performance gap between these teams this season. As long as Arteta make his players fully ready for the match I don't expect them to get a surprising result.

The game is a 50/50 game for both Arsenal and Chelsea. But without siding either if the clubs since I'm neutral, Arsenal should win. If they could run down Manchester City with a goal. It might seem lucky but still, they have the potentials of winning the game tommorow.
Chelsea needs the win but they will not get it against Arsenal only if important defender's gets Injured.

Winning Arsenal, a side better than they are should be a good idea so they could use that too boost them confidence.

No excuses would be entertained, it's either a wine from any sides of draw. Pochetino has experienced difficulty winning Arsenal as a manager of Tottenham Hotspur, he would still lose again as he faces Arsenal for the first time with Chelsea tommorow.

Chelsea will really have a big task ahead today because defeating Arsenal will be one big thing to do,I think it will really be a hard nut to crack because we all see how Arsenal have grown in the last couple of seasons ago,and looking at Statistics,it only shows that Arsenal have more advantage in this game than Chelsea because in their last three meetings at Standford Bridge, Arsenal have always be winning,and therefore I ask think history is still saying that Arsenal still have an edge over Chelsea in this game.
But what I'm Still surprised about is the odd they've given to Arsenal in this game which is about 2.15 odds,and the last time they gave them this kind of odd was against City which they won.Therefore we would see how this game would end.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 20, 2023, 03:01:17 PM

Chelsea need this win even more than Arsenal these days. They started the season really terrible and they are desperate to improve their form. They can't get consistent goal contribution from their forward players unfortunately. Indeed they have been quite well for a couple of weeks.

But it is still early to trust Chelsea in my opinion. Moreover Arsenal have been dominant against Chelsea in their last 3 head-to-heads too. They won all of them.

There is a quite big performance gap between these teams this season. As long as Arteta make his players fully ready for the match I don't expect them to get a surprising result.

The game is a 50/50 game for both Arsenal and Chelsea. But without siding either if the clubs since I'm neutral, Arsenal should win. If they could run down Manchester City with a goal. It might seem lucky but still, they have the potentials of winning the game tommorow.
Chelsea needs the win but they will not get it against Arsenal only if important defender's gets Injured.

Winning Arsenal, a side better than they are should be a good idea so they could use that too boost them confidence.

No excuses would be entertained, it's either a wine from any sides of draw. Pochetino has experienced difficulty winning Arsenal as a manager of Tottenham Hotspur, he would still lose again as he faces Arsenal for the first time with Chelsea tommorow.

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Chelsea need this win even more than Arsenal these days. They started the season really terrible and they are desperate to improve their form. They can't get consistent goal contribution from their forward players unfortunately. Indeed they have been quite well for a couple of weeks.

But it is still early to trust Chelsea in my opinion. Moreover Arsenal have been dominant against Chelsea in their last 3 head-to-heads too. They won all of them.

There is a quite big performance gap between these teams this season. As long as Arteta make his players fully ready for the match I don't expect them to get a surprising result.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on October 20, 2023, 02:42:46 PM

The mistakes started with firing Tuchel, they shouldn't have done that to begin with and I believe that we are going to end up with something that would be a little over the top and shouldn't really worry about it at all. I think it is going to end up with anything good for them in this game.

I think so. Big teams these days seem to be in a hurry to find faults in their clubs and are too quick to take steps to dismiss someone in order to fix the slump. However, adjusting playing styles and adapting to the league takes time. I'm starting to feel that big teams don't truly value the process of finding a club's best form. Giving individuals a chance isn't wrong, as everyone might need time, including Thomas Tuchel.

We know that not everyone can kick off their careers on the right foot, but the key is that once they've had ample time to adapt, they have a good opportunity to find the right team composition.

But Chelsea seems to be turning things around recently, as evidenced by their consecutive victories in the last three matches, particularly against Fulham, which had a strong start to this season.

While in the process of performance recovery, for now, it appears that Chelsea isn't capable of defeating Arsenal in the London derby.

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Honestly Arsenal has to win this game if they want to win the title, there is nothing that is looking good about Chelsea these days and I feel like it wouldn't really be anything that would make them lose in this game. Chelsea is just way too bad and they do not have a way out neither, with too many managers and too many transfers, they still couldn't figure out what's wrong with the team and they are going to end up being worse.

The mistakes started with firing Tuchel, they shouldn't have done that to begin with and I believe that we are going to end up with something that would be a little over the top and shouldn't really worry about it at all. I think it is going to end up with anything good for them in this game.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on October 18, 2023, 11:05:28 PM

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There is a Chelsea - Arsenal match closing in on us. What are your thoughts about it?

Personally I think that Chelsea's job is still very difficult in Stamford Bridge despite the progress they made in their last 2 matches. Those wins are important to start believing in themselves more of course. But still they were wins against smaller teams. It is a mystery what they can do in this big match while Arsenal are in great shape. Arsenal got past a bigger obstacle like Manchester City in Emirates. I think that they are the closer side to win the match against Chelsea as well.

Chelsea need more contribution from their attackers. And I feel like this can only happen after Nkunku starts training with the team.

We can use their current performance to predict this match, because Chelsea don't have the strength to achieve victory from Arsenal in this match, because their coach will still apply the same strategy that made them to defeated Manchester city and Manchester united last matches to embraced the points.

We can't really rely upon the current performances from both of team to determine the result. Chelsea is still unbeatable since the last three games but arsenal is also unbeatable since the first game of EPL this season. There may be a slightly change to happen on chelsea's side. It's caused by the club was missing some RB like reece james and malo gusto due to the injury. This forces chelsea to put alternative solution to fill that position. I don't know who is the most potential player to play as RB for chelsea.

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I believe Chelsea will not allow Arsenal to use them anyhow the way they are using some big teams in this season than to make the match difficult for them in the first half. This match will determine if Chelsea coach is going to help the team to achieve something good from this season by defeating Arsenal, which I know it will be very difficult for such mistakes to happen Arsenal.

Chelsea's mission to prevent arsenal from winning the game but this is an impossible thing right now. I meant let's take a look at how arsenal was always beating chelsea two times last season. The same result probably to happen again. We are still far away from the end of season.
Im not willing to take a conclusion for the thing that remains unclear at this moment. Arsenal can also being trophyless again. Remember this club is always having weak mentality at the late game.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 18, 2023, 11:54:24 PM

Tottenham Hotspur, Arsenal Manchester City and Liverpool are the top four teams at the moment who have dominated the League and it is very likely that they can get a win in this weekend match but it is also possible that they fail to get win because they lose lead or draw because in football there are always surprises.

This season has been so favourable for Tottenham, Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool so I agree with you that the premier League this season belongs to any of the club because there performance this season has gone way more than other clubs like Chelsea, Manchester United etc.

But there would be a serious competition among the four listed team because Tottenham Hotspur will always try all there possible best to maintain there first place on the table while others will also be making an effort to lead the table.

However I think Manchester City or Arsenal will be the last team standing on wining the premier League because they both have the highest performance on this premier League season and stance the chance of wining it.

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Chelsea vs Arsenal can be a pretty nice game to watch for us. It is actually up to how productive Chelsea can be at the same time. Because Chelsea haven't been good at scoring multiple goals in a game most of the time. Their last two performances in the league games were quite impressive though but none of them was against a top team.

I'm not sure if they are ready for a big challenge like Arsenal. Currently Arsenal and Tottenham are doing incredible work in the league together. Even though the game is in Stamford Bridge I'm leaning towards betting on Arsenal to win anyway. The odds of 2.26 are just very tempting. Grin

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Quote from: klidex on October 20, 2023, 03:40:07 AM

Chelsea not completely improved this season and is not much different from last season, but we also cannot confirm whether Chelsea will be able to recover and improve its performance little by little because this season is still long and in terms of appearance, Arsenal is much better when compared to Chelsea in the last two final season.

Even though Chelsea is playing as the home team, this will still be quite a tough match for Chelsea because they are facing a club that has not lost this season and looking at their record of 5 meetings, Arsenal dominates the victory against Chelsea so Arsenal will be the bookies favorite to bet on some money on the Arsenal club and I will also bet on Arsenal in that match.

This will indeed be a tough match for Chelsea because even when facing teams below Arsenal they face difficulties in winning, especially against Arsenal, and the two consecutive wins they managed to get cannot yet show that Chelsea has recovered, because the two teams they lost were teams which is quite weak, especially Burnley.
However, what is interesting is that even though Arsenal are the favorites to win this match, they have quite big odds in my opinion @ 2.23 and Chelsea @ 3.20, and a draw @ 3.15 on the betting market. If you are quite sure that Arsenal will win then immediately betting on the money line will be quite profitable, but I think a draw is still possible because of course, Chelsea don't want to disappoint their fans again at Stamford Bridge where this season they have lost twice at home and that is very painful for Chelsea who is struggling to recover from last season's downturn.

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Chelsea has been slowly showing improvement yet if we refers to the statistic and this club is still long way to go to be in the same level as arsenal. Pochettino won't care so much if chelsea will be losing against arsenal but the club may use it as measurement to know how strong/weak chelsea is right now. This is the main reason if draw won't be a bad result for chelsea. Arsenal is strong like totenham right now but it must be noted that if nothing last forever. Arsenal shall not also underestimate its opponent. The club needs to treat any of its opponents the same.
Havetz will be starting from bench while chelsea may use its best line up since the match will be starting. This match is the hottest match that will be happening soon. Pochettino is trying to make sure everything is well prepared as well as arteta with its club.
Chelsea needs to rediscover its best performance like when it was still under abramovich. Arsenal needs to be careful caused by it will be playing away.

I have seen that if pochettino has been preparing james for the match against arsenal but he is not yet ready due to the injury. Im also doubting malo gusto to play in this game.

Well they've really improved no doubt but the come back win against Burnley before the international break is not enough and they'll need to be consistent in about 4 to 5 matches Before I'll be really convinced they're back to winning ways, their next match is a big text for Pouchettino and it would be very tough for the team cause they're facing a big side that are performing very well,in a derby match and could end up losing the game.

However I'm not underestimating Chelsea cause they could suprisenly make the game to be in their favour since they'll be playing with a home advantage I'm just giving my opinion based on Arsenal's current performance and comparing their squad with that of Chelsea's, the away team looks more better with a stronger defence, and attack compared to Chelsea's.

well since the take over of Todd Boehly he's been struggling to take the club back to its glory days and has fired about 3 coaches before Pouchettino, but I feel they're on the right process with Pouchettino and even if they don't really perform well this season they'll be very tough the next season.

Chelsea not completely improved this season and is not much different from last season, but we also cannot confirm whether Chelsea will be able to recover and improve its performance little by little because this season is still long and in terms of appearance, Arsenal is much better when compared to Chelsea in the last two final season.

Even though Chelsea is playing as the home team, this will still be quite a tough match for Chelsea because they are facing a club that has not lost this season and looking at their record of 5 meetings, Arsenal dominates the victory against Chelsea so Arsenal will be the bookies favorite to bet on some money on the Arsenal club and I will also bet on Arsenal in that match.

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