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Quote from: davis196 on February 02, 2024, 02:43:58 AM

Great game between Man United and Wolves(is was great for the neutral fans, not the Man United fans). Getting equalized from 3-1 to 3-3 means that Manchester United lacks confidence and strong defense, their goalkeeper is also mediocre. The "red devils" got kinda lucky because of their 4th goal, but I'm sure that they will keep losing points against the weaker teams in the Premier League.
I hear rumors that United wants to buy Ronaldo Araujo from Barcelona during the summer. I'm not sure that this will stabilize their defensive play.
Marcus Rashford scored a goal, but he is still far away from his peak performance. Manchester United needs several new players and a new manager.

Even though Manchester United scored 3 points, this victory didn't seem to be that special, because Onana kept conceding and the goal scored by the Wolves players was almost a kick that Onana should have been able to handle easily. Wolves made a good comeback but in the final minutes Kobbie Mainoo became the hero of the victory. In my opinion, Erik Ten Hag must continue to evaluate the performance of his players, especially perhaps being able to temporarily replace Onana with goalkeeper Altay Bayındır, maybe he could be better than Onana.

Seeing Hojlund progress, he has gradually started to enjoy his game and most importantly, Hojlund is not selfish in sharing opportunities with other players. Rashford is now widely doubted by several Manchester United players, absent from training because he was enjoying a party. Erik Ten Hag, if he is really firm, should be able to give a strong warning to anyone, including Rashford, who goes around as he pleases. Rashford is starting to show his indiscipline and that is very bad for a player who is still young.

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I think this is not too surprising for many people because Chelsea has not completely improved because sometimes Chelsea is still inconsistent and sometime cannot put pressure on weak teams and sometimes Chelsea can still be beaten by an ordinary team. This defeat is not surprising because basically Liverpool is in good form this season and with full confidence in being able to win the EPL title this season while still being coaching by Kloop, and of course Kloop want to wins the EPL title for the last time with Liverpool.

It is very difficult to match the strength of Liverpool who is performing at the peak of their performance, the performances of the two teams which are very different will also produce different results. Chelsea who are currently in a slump, are still having difficulty facing Liverpool, defeat is still very attached to them because the shortcomings in the team have not been able to be resolved.
Klopp is very confident in the current condition of his team, victory over Chelsea is certainly very important for Liverpool who are keeping their distance from Manchester City. As a result of this defeat, it is increasingly difficult for Chelsea to crawl from the middle of the standings, there is no hope for them to appear in European competition next season because their performance has not improved.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on February 01, 2024, 10:57:52 PM

For Chelsea's target of finishing in the top 4 or 5, I don't think it will ever happen, they don't deserve it, they still have a lot to fix and it's possible that won't be possible this season.

I agree with what you said. They don't deserve it. Chelsea's performance has been really bad this season. I don't know which fan said Chelsea could possibly reach the top 4 or 5 at the end of the season. I think at the moment Tottenham, Aston Villa and West Ham are much better than Chelsea so it's completely unreasonable to say Chelsea will be able to get a place in the top 4 or five at the end of the season. They have to correct their mistakes in this season because I don't think they will get any place in the international league in the next season.

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Great game between Man United and Wolves(is was great for the neutral fans, not the Man United fans). Getting equalized from 3-1 to 3-3 means that Manchester United lacks confidence and strong defense, their goalkeeper is also mediocre. The "red devils" got kinda lucky because of their 4th goal, but I'm sure that they will keep losing points against the weaker teams in the Premier League.
I hear rumors that United wants to buy Ronaldo Araujo from Barcelona during the summer. I'm not sure that this will stabilize their defensive play.
Marcus Rashford scored a goal, but he is still far away from his peak performance. Manchester United needs several new players and a new manager.

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Manchester United are without playing entertaining football once again. They needed to win their game tonight against Wolves which they did put in their best to make sure they took all three points from the game. However, we mustn't shy away from the fact that the club's defensive display tonight was very bad and if not for the stoppage time goal from Mainoo, Wolves would've come back from 3:1 to share points with Erik ten Hag's Manchester United. Wolves did equalize in the game in the 5th minute of additional but failed to to protect their result till the final whistle as Manchester United's Mainoo scored two minutes later to ensure that Manchester United leaves the Molineux stadium tonight. Great result for Manchester United as they got an important win tonight

Manchester United had a thrilling and hard-fought match against Wolves, but they secured a crucial win in the end. The fact that they needed to put in their big efforts to ensure the three points reflects the struggling situation in their side. The defensive issues faced by Manchester United is an area that may need attention and improvement to ensure a more balanced and secure performance, especially in the latter stages of the game.

The stoppage time goal from Mainoo that secured the victory demonstrates the resilience and determination of the Manchester United squad. Coming back to secure a win after the equalizer shows character and fighting spirit, which are essential qualities for a successful team. This result will undoubtedly boost the confidence of Manchester United, and it's a positive outcome as they aim to maintain momentum and compete at the highest level. Matches like these, with late drama and critical goals, contribute to the excitement.

This was a very exciting and interesting match to watch because both sides exchanged attacks, where some of which resulted in goals. Man United performed very well in the first half and it seems that they are better than Wolves that always fail to take advantage of the good opportunities they get. But in the second half, the situation changed slightly. Trailing by 2 goals made Wolves increase the intensity of their attacks and this really put pressure on Man United's defense.

The most dramatic was when the match entered injury time. When Wolves thought they could secure 1 point, it turned out that Man United (with their fighting spirit) was able to get the winning goal through Kobbie Mainoo.

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Chelsea looked quite weak in yesterday match and they even seemed to have great difficulty in threatening Liverpool goal.

Yeah, it was pretty bad. And it could've been even worse if not for the missed penalty.
Chelsea got absolutely dominated, only managed to make a total of 4 shots (3 on target) in the entire game Vs Liverpool's 28 (13 on target). It doesn't get much worse than that.
It almost seemed like Liverpool was playing a team from a much lower division. Now they're too far behind to even dream about finishing in the top 5.

It was clear that it was like a match between two teams of different classes, Chelsea couldn't make any effort and couldn't improve their performance because everything was controlled by Liverpool.
Regardless of the final result, there was no significant resistance from Chelsea which allowed Liverpool to easily win the match, which is quite a shame.

For Chelsea's target of finishing in the top 4 or 5, I don't think it will ever happen, they don't deserve it, they still have a lot to fix and it's possible that won't be possible this season.

It is true that Chelsea is currently having a bad season in contrast to Liverpool who are experience a much better season, even from the standings table alone it is clear that Chelsea and Liverpool are at different level. Chelsea is like a mediocre club which is ranked 10th while Liverpool is in first place, which mean it will not be easy for Chelsea to beat Liverpool and hold Liverpool to a draw because this club is struggling to maintain its top position so as not to be displaced by Manchester City who continues to trail Liverpool in 2nd placed.

Chelsea is already quite far behind with the top 5 ranked clubs. Aston Villa has collection 43 points while Chelsea has only collected 31 points. The difference of 12 points is a very big difference. It's impossible if Chelsea is able to catch up to be ranked in the top 5. I think Chelsea might still end up on the board middle of the standings or at least in the top 10 of the standings.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on February 01, 2024, 06:44:21 PM

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Chelsea looked quite weak in yesterday match and they even seemed to have great difficulty in threatening Liverpool goal.

Yeah, it was pretty bad. And it could've been even worse if not for the missed penalty.
Chelsea got absolutely dominated, only managed to make a total of 4 shots (3 on target) in the entire game Vs Liverpool's 28 (13 on target). It doesn't get much worse than that.
It almost seemed like Liverpool was playing a team from a much lower division. Now they're too far behind to even dream about finishing in the top 5.

chelsea's target this season is best to be able to compete in Europe next season europa league or europa confrence league. and in the efl cup chelsea qualify for the final. by winning the efl cup it is guaranteed to get europa league tickets. the best target this season is winning the efl cup or top 6 at the end of the competition. champion league is impossible with chelsea's performance this season which is very bad.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on February 01, 2024, 06:44:21 PM

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Chelsea looked quite weak in yesterday match and they even seemed to have great difficulty in threatening Liverpool goal.

Yeah, it was pretty bad. And it could've been even worse if not for the missed penalty.
Chelsea got absolutely dominated, only managed to make a total of 4 shots (3 on target) in the entire game Vs Liverpool's 28 (13 on target). It doesn't get much worse than that.
It almost seemed like Liverpool was playing a team from a much lower division. Now they're too far behind to even dream about finishing in the top 5.

I think this is not too surprising for many people because Chelsea has not completely improved because sometimes Chelsea is still inconsistent and sometime cannot put pressure on weak teams and sometimes Chelsea can still be beaten by an ordinary team. This defeat is not surprising because basically Liverpool is in good form this season and with full confidence in being able to win the EPL title this season while still being coaching by Kloop, and of course Kloop want to wins the EPL title for the last time with Liverpool.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on February 01, 2024, 06:44:21 PM

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Chelsea looked quite weak in yesterday match and they even seemed to have great difficulty in threatening Liverpool goal.

Yeah, it was pretty bad. And it could've been even worse if not for the missed penalty.
Chelsea got absolutely dominated, only managed to make a total of 4 shots (3 on target) in the entire game Vs Liverpool's 28 (13 on target). It doesn't get much worse than that.
It almost seemed like Liverpool was playing a team from a much lower division. Now they're too far behind to even dream about finishing in the top 5.

It was clear that it was like a match between two teams of different classes, Chelsea couldn't make any effort and couldn't improve their performance because everything was controlled by Liverpool.
Regardless of the final result, there was no significant resistance from Chelsea which allowed Liverpool to easily win the match, which is quite a shame.

For Chelsea's target of finishing in the top 4 or 5, I don't think it will ever happen, they don't deserve it, they still have a lot to fix and it's possible that won't be possible this season.

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Quote from: Renampun on February 01, 2024, 05:54:06 PM

Man Utd was very lucky, Mainoo managed to score their final winning goal in the last minute, in the second half I saw Man Utd's game was very bad, I don't know what happened to Man Utd's back line, they almost conceded a lot, luckily Onana was quick to respond, Wolves too played very well in the second half, they were very dominant, Man Utd could calm down because they managed to climb to 7th position.
in another match, bournemouth almost won if prowse didn't score a goal for west ham, bournemouth was very stable in this match, they played well, it's a shame they weren't lucky.

Mainoo as the savior for manchester united after a hard game against wolves. this is also helping manchester united to be even far from chelsea. United is slowly but surely climbing up even higher than before. yet chelsea must lose three points against liverpool which was very bad achievement for the club.
I was so pumped when the game was entering into the late game as manchester united was unable to score but finally mainoo made it as the end of game. He was scoring for united and it was getting three points. No doubt that if people are starting to praise him on the internal by calling him as a savior.
He has been trending on twitter as well and this is an opportunity for united to get full points in any match. im sure that if manchester united will be performing even better in the upcoming match. Yet defenders and goal keepers are the true opponents of manchester united itself.
The shitty goal keeper and defender who can't play better and they keep stuck in the same place while some players have been performing better in this game. Manchester united was almost losing three points which will be giving bad impact to the club.
Im very happy with the result from this game. Manchester united's effort paid off. thanks mainoo.

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Manchester United are without playing entertaining football once again. They needed to win their game tonight against Wolves which they did put in their best to make sure they took all three points from the game. However, we mustn't shy away from the fact that the club's defensive display tonight was very bad and if not for the stoppage time goal from Mainoo, Wolves would've come back from 3:1 to share points with Erik ten Hag's Manchester United. Wolves did equalize in the game in the 5th minute of additional but failed to to protect their result till the final whistle as Manchester United's Mainoo scored two minutes later to ensure that Manchester United leaves the Molineux stadium tonight. Great result for Manchester United as they got an important win tonight

Manchester United had a thrilling and hard-fought match against Wolves, but they secured a crucial win in the end. The fact that they needed to put in their big efforts to ensure the three points reflects the struggling situation in their side. The defensive issues faced by Manchester United is an area that may need attention and improvement to ensure a more balanced and secure performance, especially in the latter stages of the game.

The stoppage time goal from Mainoo that secured the victory demonstrates the resilience and determination of the Manchester United squad. Coming back to secure a win after the equalizer shows character and fighting spirit, which are essential qualities for a successful team. This result will undoubtedly boost the confidence of Manchester United, and it's a positive outcome as they aim to maintain momentum and compete at the highest level. Matches like these, with late drama and critical goals, contribute to the excitement.

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Quote from: Google+ on February 01, 2024, 05:45:52 PM

Chelsea looked quite weak in yesterday match and they even seemed to have great difficulty in threatening Liverpool goal.

Yeah, it was pretty bad. And it could've been even worse if not for the missed penalty.
Chelsea got absolutely dominated, only managed to make a total of 4 shots (3 on target) in the entire game Vs Liverpool's 28 (13 on target). It doesn't get much worse than that.
It almost seemed like Liverpool was playing a team from a much lower division. Now they're too far behind to even dream about finishing in the top 5.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on February 01, 2024, 06:10:31 PM

It wouldn't be a lie to say that Manchester United are playing with fire again. Leading 3-1 in the 75th minute, the team cannot break the match and win. Yes, he won today, but 90+5. The score was 3-3 in the minute. Two minutes after this goal, they scored the winning goal with Mainoo and became the side that got 3 points, but they almost lost the victory they had. Wolverhampton was the side that had the ball more. Manchester played a little hard and got 5 yellow cards. Manu may have won, but he didn't give me any hope for the future. If City keep playing the ball this well. The city of Manchester will remain blue for a long time.

Manchester United are without playing entertaining football once again. They needed to win their game tonight against Wolves which they did put in their best to make sure they took all three points from the game. However, we mustn't shy away from the fact that the club's defensive display tonight was very bad and if not for the stoppage time goal from Mainoo, Wolves would've come back from 3:1 to share points with Erik ten Hag's Manchester United. Wolves did equalize in the game in the 5th minute of additional but failed to to protect their result till the final whistle as Manchester United's Mainoo scored two minutes later to ensure that Manchester United leaves the Molineux stadium tonight. Great result for Manchester United as they got an important win tonight

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It wouldn't be a lie to say that Manchester United are playing with fire again. Leading 3-1 in the 75th minute, the team cannot break the match and win. Yes, he won today, but 90+5. The score was 3-3 in the minute. Two minutes after this goal, they scored the winning goal with Mainoo and became the side that got 3 points, but they almost lost the victory they had. Wolverhampton was the side that had the ball more. Manchester played a little hard and got 5 yellow cards. Manu may have won, but he didn't give me any hope for the future. If City keep playing the ball this well. The city of Manchester will remain blue for a long time.

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Man Utd was very lucky, Mainoo managed to score their final winning goal in the last minute, in the second half I saw Man Utd's game was very bad, I don't know what happened to Man Utd's back line, they almost conceded a lot, luckily Onana was quick to respond, Wolves too played very well in the second half, they were very dominant, Man Utd could calm down because they managed to climb to 7th position.
in another match, bournemouth almost won if prowse didn't score a goal for west ham, bournemouth was very stable in this match, they played well, it's a shame they weren't lucky.

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Quote from: davis196 on February 01, 2024, 02:38:39 AM

Liverpool completely destroyed Chelsea, which proves that Chelsea's American owner doesn't know what he's doing. Grin

There was a situation for penalty for Chelsea at the beginning of the match, but VAR and the referee didn't see anything.
Other than that, Chelsea was just a too weak to compete against the inspired and highly motivated team from Merseyside.
Liverpool plays great even without Salah. Jota, Nunez and Diaz are at their best shape. Great game for the young Conor Bradley. One goal and two assists for a 20-year old player in a game against Chelsea is a big achievement.
I'm not a Liverpool fan, but I want Liverpool to win Premiership because of Jurgen Klopp.

Without Salah in the match against Chelsea, in fact, it didn't make Liverpool weak because Jota, Nunez and Diaz were able to put on quite an impressive performance on Liverpool front line. Chelsea looked quite weak in yesterday match and they even seemed to have great difficulty in threatening Liverpool goal. I imagine the Carabao Cup final in the upcoming match where Liverpool will face Chelsea and if Chelsea performance is like yesterday match it will certainly be quite easy for Liverpool to beat Chelsea.

Apart from that, Chelsea still finds it difficult to show their strength when facing strong teams. They have not been able to change their performance this season where their defense is one of the things that is quite a concern against Liverpool. because when their defense is not strong then the opponent will be able to play in their defense area like Liverpool did where the ball just rolls under Chelsea defense area which makes Liverpool freely continue to threaten Chelsea goal.

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Quote from: klidex on February 01, 2024, 12:56:17 AM

Even though they were behind in the first half by 1 goals, Tottenham were able to catch up in the 2nd half and immediately launched a deadly attacking and were able to create a goal at the start of the 2nd half. Destiny Udogie was able to score a goal in the 48th minutes and 1 minute later, Brennan Johnson scored 2nd additional goals, Richarlison was able to add another 3rd goals total in the 56th minute. Brentford increase the total to 2 goals in the 67th minutes but this was not enough to steal 1 point from Tottenham because Tottenham were trying to wins this match at homed.

Yes, as long as Son Heung Min is not at the club, Tottenham attacks seems to be slacking off and having difficulty scored
goals, but even so, Tottenham still don't give up because they also continues to performed as hard as possible so they can be back in the top 4 and thanks to this victory, Tottenham is in 4th placed even though have the same points as Aston Villa but at least Tottenham can compete again for a placed in the Champions League next seasons.

Tottenham really needed this victory and you could see frim how they changed the game in the second half. They got all 3 goals in the second half majorly because of how high they pressed Brentford. They took Brentford by suprise by scoring an equalizer at the early stages of the 2nd half, which game them a boost in that game.They were so lucky even though their attack seems a little sluggish probably because of Son missing out due to the Asian Cup I think they’ll need to up their game and keep maintaining victories so that they’ll be able to finish in the top 4 and head to the UCL.

I know thier aim is European football and that can be achieved if they’ve got high fighting spirit and are ready to challenge for the spot because they’ve got a good team with quality squad depth that can challenge on Villa and Arsenal and get into the UCL next season if only they keep up with their good performance.

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Quote from: davis196 on February 01, 2024, 02:38:39 AM

Liverpool completely destroyed Chelsea, which proves that Chelsea's American owner doesn't know what he's doing. Grin

There was a situation for penalty for Chelsea at the beginning of the match, but VAR and the referee didn't see anything.
Other than that, Chelsea was just a too weak to compete against the inspired and highly motivated team from Merseyside.
Liverpool plays great even without Salah. Jota, Nunez and Diaz are at their best shape. Great game for the young Conor Bradley. One goal and two assists for a 20-year old player in a game against Chelsea is a big achievement.
I'm not a Liverpool fan, but I want Liverpool to win Premiership because of Jurgen Klopp.

Overall they're better that Chelsea, and there's no way Chelsea would've seek themselves winning that game yesterday night. My prediction was to see the both of them drawing anyways bit they failed me. After many years of seeing them holding down Liverpool, Chelsea football club led down them guards finally and submitted to Liverpool.
They will have to fight for the Premier League Competition not just hope and think luck would favor them, they have done well without Mo Salah in this periods. Diego Jota and the rest of the lads have literally done well to see Liverpool progressing forward.

Manchester United got some luck tonight, it's a game they didn't manage well, they should have won with a good clean sheets bit they failed woefully. Thanks to the teenage Kobbie Mainoo.

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In the match where Tottenham fell behind 0-1, they ended the first half losing 0-1 in front of Brentford with the same score.
Tottenham, who entered the second half like a storm, made the score 1-1 in the 48th minute and one minute after this goal, the score was 2-1 at the 49th minute. He made the score 3-1 in the 56th minute.

A pretty good comeback was shown by Tottenham in this match as they fell behind but they had the momentum in the first 15 minutes of the second half which made the advantage turn to their favor.
Although Brighton got a chance back by catching up with the second goal scored but it couldn't bring them a point as Tottenham didn't want that to happen.

Losing Son made the attacking conditions a little different although they still played very well but without Son's speed on the sidelines, Tottenham made a difference in this match. Richalrison was at least able to fill Son's void temporarily and with the 1 goal he scored, Richalrison brought Tottenham to 3 points and made them shift Aston Villa from the Champions League zone even though the points are still the same.

Tottenham Hotspur's resilience tonight was the secret behind their comeback in their English Premier League game against Brentford. It was a very good performance from Ange Postecoglou's men as they held on to claim all important three points even when their captain and top scorer of the season Son Heung-Min was absent from the game. Since Son left the club to join the South Korea national team to compete in the ongoing Asian Cup, Tottenham Hotspur haven't been as impressive as they used to be when he was still there. However, they didn't allow the absence of Sin from stopping them to put out a good performance tonight. Also their forward player James Maddison came back tonight after a long time out with injury

They are aware that Brentford's counterattacks are quite dangerous so the only way is to take control of the game with possession and continue to attack.
It was an interesting match although in terms of strength and attack Tottenham were much better but Brentford's counterattacks and defensive schemes were also worthy of praise in yesterday's match.

Son's absence will definitely be very influential but on the other hand they must also continue to strive to be consistent and a victory in this week's match is certainly very good as a spirit booster for them.

Today's match looks like Manchester United will secure 3 points especially with a score that is actually quite favorable for them now.

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Quote from: Kristiyana on February 01, 2024, 01:30:09 PM

Manchester City are better than Burnley by far and they won with a good score.
Tottenham Hotspur is a team with random results, playing against Brentford which dropped in performance lately so the result isn't a surprise for me at least. I would say that they managed to not lose a point rather than managed to win the game..
Liverpool victory is also normal regarding the performance and results shown by them at the opposite of the very fluctuating Chelsea performance.

Before the English Premier League game between Manchester City and Burnley kicked off yesterday, I was of the opinion that the clarets does not stand a chance to get anything from that game and that's because Manchester City first team is almost complete at the moment as most of the first team players are all fit for the game.
Pep Guardiola's Manchester City are currently occupying the second spot in the English Premier League table and wouldn't want to to lose that spot to anyone but will rather want to make sure they overtake league leaders Liverpool and that was why they delivered that incredible performance yesterday against Burnley. The battle for who finishes as the winner of the English Premier League title looks fierce already as none of the two teams at the top of the league is ready to drop points

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