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The title sound so funny but the message is well understood since the goal scorers were involved in the just concluded AFCON namely Bassey and Iwobi. Manchester United failed to win at home making Fulham to get their first away win this season i think the away team was better in the game even though they were unable to convert their chances but winning before the stoppage time gives them nothing but joy. The goal of Harry Maguire was supposed to make them share 1 points each but United still fell short as they conceded a late goal from Alex Iwobi the Nigerian player.
Manchester United was frustrated at the end of the game. They couldn't get three points at Old Trafford against an average club. Fulham coach, Marco Silva understands the game and ensure he plays according to plans, he defended all the important areas on the pitch, just relaxed and watch Erik Ten Hag and his men struggle for a draw tie but couldn't maintain 1-1 after equalizing, another dangerous counter was trigger by Fulham and a goal was conceded on the hosts end. Shocking to see both Fulham players that puts their name on the scoresheet are from Nigeria.
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Basically, the overall performance of the Manchetser United team was not optimal in this match and it was very unfortunate that when the Man United team had managed to equalize, they continued to apply pressure so they forgot about their defense and the losing goal came at the end of the match.

And Hojlund is a hot topic of conversation now, when Hojlund is absent Manchester United's front line performance is very poor.
This means that it is clear that Hojlund is currently the most influential player on the front line of the Manchester United team.
The defeat against Fulham meant that Manchester United winning streak had to end, losing in that match made it even more difficult for Manchester United to get into the top 4 and I think their chances of reaching the top 4 will be even more closed if Tottenham can win against Chelsea in the postponed match and make the goal difference will be bigger, for now we can see how dependent Manchester United is on Hojlund so that when Hojlund is absent it makes Manchester United's attack line quite dull, besides I think Manchester United's defeat cannot be separated from their poor defense and also Onana who made mistakes even though able to perform several saves in that match, the defeat against Fulham brought Manchester closer to again setting a record for the most home defeats in one season because Since 2020/2021, this is the first time Man United has experienced eight home defeats in all competitions, while the worst record is nine times lost at home in one season, which occurred in 1973/1974.
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Manchester United 1 : 2 Nigeria Fulham boys
I know you will be surprised at the title of my post but that is just the reality. The Nigerian defender and midfielder in this concluded AFCON in the person of Bassey and Iwobi were the goal scorers for Fulham that enabled them trash Manchester United today. I don't know if I will say that it is the effect of the successful AFCON they played.

In the other hand, Manchester United did not do enough to secure 3 points for them. Even when their former captain Harry Maguire tried to make them go home with 1 point, it was all to no avail.

The title sound so funny but the message is well understood since the goal scorers were involved in the just concluded AFCON namely Bassey and Iwobi. Manchester United failed to win at home making Fulham to get their first away win this season i think the away team was better in the game even though they were unable to convert their chances but winning before the stoppage time gives them nothing but joy. The goal of Harry Maguire was supposed to make them share 1 points each but United still fell short as they conceded a late goal from Alex Iwobi the Nigerian player.
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Blaming Onana for the second goal actually in my opinion is too imposing and seems ridiculous because it just wants to give a mistake to him considering Onana often makes blunders but for this match it was too much when Onana was blamed.
There are some reasons that I think are forced if it's still blaming Onana. The second goal came with a quick counter-attack that was difficult to anticipate. Indeed in this case Onana was not in his coverage area and did not seem to want to force himself to move but I think that would not have happened if there was proper guarding for Iwobi because we know that with the fast counter-attack that was done actually Iwobi was without really good guarding which made him very easily able to score in this match while silencing Manchester United with a score of 1-2.

Onana in this match made saves that were actually very good and I think that is quite commendable, it's just that it seems like Ten Hag always tries some players like Mainoo who is used as a defensive midfielder even though he is very good as a second striker.
The loss of Hojlund is also very impactful in terms of Manchester United's attack because his finishing is still compromised.
I also think so, for the second goal the goalkeeper cannot be blamed because it was a goal that should have occurred and if Onana managed to thwart that opportunity then he deserves to be given appreciation, which means that if a goal occurs it doesn't mean he can be blamed.
This is like the goalkeeper's position in a penalty shootout, when a goal is scored it's normal if they succeed in thwarting the penalty kick which means the goalkeeper deserves to be appreciated.

Basically, the overall performance of the Manchetser United team was not optimal in this match and it was very unfortunate that when the Man United team had managed to equalize, they continued to apply pressure so they forgot about their defense and the losing goal came at the end of the match.

And Hojlund is a hot topic of conversation now, when Hojlund is absent Manchester United's front line performance is very poor.
This means that it is clear that Hojlund is currently the most influential player on the front line of the Manchester United team.
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The second goal was completely onana's fault as he did nothing to prevent it to happen. The goal from meguire was almost making me feel so damn good to see united got draw but iwobi has destroyed it all. I thought that if MU was going to pinch fulham after meguire's goal but i was wrong.
A goal from iwobi was a nightmare for manchester united. It's also happening during injury time as well. United has lost their spirit after it was losing the good momentum. Fulham fans were so happy by seeing it but im guessing that majority of bettors disliked it coz they lost it once again. Missing hojlund was obviously impacting the club.

Blaming Onana for the second goal actually in my opinion is too imposing and seems ridiculous because it just wants to give a mistake to him considering Onana often makes blunders but for this match it was too much when Onana was blamed.
There are some reasons that I think are forced if it's still blaming Onana. The second goal came with a quick counter-attack that was difficult to anticipate. Indeed in this case Onana was not in his coverage area and did not seem to want to force himself to move but I think that would not have happened if there was proper guarding for Iwobi because we know that with the fast counter-attack that was done actually Iwobi was without really good guarding which made him very easily able to score in this match while silencing Manchester United with a score of 1-2.

Onana in this match made saves that were actually very good and I think that is quite commendable, it's just that it seems like Ten Hag always tries some players like Mainoo who is used as a defensive midfielder even though he is very good as a second striker.
The loss of Hojlund is also very impactful in terms of Manchester United's attack because his finishing is still compromised.
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In today's match of Aston Villa vs Nottm Forest team, the game between the two teams is very intense. Aston Villa team has scored 4 goals so far but Nottm Forest team has scored 2 goals. Nottm Forest team's goal keeper has not performed very well. Aston Villa has scored 4 goals.  Team. Aston Villa player O. Watkins scored the 1st goal in 4 minutes. D.  Luiz scored 2 goals in today's match 2nd goal in 29 minutes and 3rd goal in 39 minutes.
Ez match for aston villa. Forest was trying to play defensively but it's not working. it's caused by there have been some miscom during the game. it makes club lost its concentration and watkins has opened the first goal. Aston villa was playing very well. This is very good for the club.

Aston is trying even harder to keep on the top 4 caused by this is the only way owned by the club to qualify for UCL next season. The journey till the end of season will not be an easy journey for aston villa. Aston was totally owning the game against notthingham forest. im not feeling doubt to see that since thse clubs have very big gap in term the quality of its players.
The result from this match was quite easy to predict unlike other match. Aston villa can full dominate the match adn this makes the club got three points. Emery must be pushing his players to go back no the right track again.

The result in the previous matches were very disappoting result but emery can do nothing since his players who were determining the result from the match, he can only push his team to get back their consistentcy again to win any EPL game till the end of season.
UCL shall be one of important target owned by the club. I know that the chance owned by aston villa to make it happen becomes even smaller since there are also some clubs are competing with villa. The chance will always there as long as there will be no very thin gap betwen villa and totenham.

Manchester united was losing three points. It makes mu's effort to get into the european competition spot become even smaller than before. We must also admit that how consistent the performance from onana by helped his team to lose three points.

Onana was piece of shit!
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Manchester United 1 : 2 Nigeria Fulham boys
I know you will be surprised at the title of my post but that is just the reality. The Nigerian defender and midfielder in this concluded AFCON in the person of Bassey and Iwobi were the goal scorers for Fulham that enabled them trash Manchester United today. I don't know if I will say that it is the effect of the successful AFCON they played.

In the other hand, Manchester United did not do enough to secure 3 points for them. Even when their former captain Harry Maguire tried to make them go home with 1 point, it was all to no avail.

The second goal was completely onana's fault as he did nothing to prevent it to happen. The goal from meguire was almost making me feel so damn good to see united got draw but iwobi has destroyed it all. I thought that if MU was going to pinch fulham after meguire's goal but i was wrong.
A goal from iwobi was a nightmare for manchester united. It's also happening during injury time as well. United has lost their spirit after it was losing the good momentum. Fulham fans were so happy by seeing it but im guessing that majority of bettors disliked it coz they lost it once again. Missing hojlund was obviously impacting the club.
Even though hojlund itself was not consistent but he can at least contribute to the club. Fulham was getting three points and it have been securing its position from the bottom. MU didn't pinch this one and it's once again losing three points which are very important for the club to push it even higher.

MU has done well, defended well, tackled well but the goal keeper was still remain the worst thing that i have ever seen in manchester united. The fans shall have blamed him caused by the second goal was onana's mistake caused by he was not always in the ready position to block the bacll.
He keeps standing and did nothing. This is also destroying bettor's hope to get huge rewards. I wanna be optimistic but im not too sure caused by fuckin goal keeper which is making the club to lose three points. This time im hoping that MU is going to come out the worst performance and get a result.
At least UCL spot is far better rather than get nothing thiss eason. There are still some strong competitors like aston villa and totenham which are making the way to be even more difficult for MU to reach UCL spot.
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Arsenal are returning to the Premier League after losing to Porto in the Champions League disappointingly. The fans are hoping for a strong performance to make up for that loss. Because of the much worse look of Newcastle compared to last season I don't think Arsenal will lose points at Emirates. Arsenal are already in an incredible form here - a 5-win streak.

What do you think about Arsenal's PL title chance this year?  Huh  Truthfully I can't be much positive about it because of knowing their character. It feels like they will waste their potential chances just as last season.

As long as Manchester City don't become champions I'm okay with any other team.  Grin
Arsenal is not stable sometimes and we lost our last game in the Champions League the next people we are going to be playing will be Newcastle and they are one dangerous club even if they don't score they will make life very unbearable and difficult for to score, and true that we are expecting a very strong performance from arsenal but the problem is don't get your expectations too high because anything can happen during there play.  and true that Newcastle is not doing well this season but don't estimate them because on the day they can surprise you.

Arsenal is in form but let us see what the two have in store for their self I know Arsenal will not want to take any chances so there is a high chance of Arsenal winning because they will not want to fall behind and if we can win Newcastle then we still have much hope because there are other big clubs that we have to still play against so losing any game now will just put us in much bigger trouble.
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Emery's boys must be happy to secure 4th place this week after the Nottingham win.   Smiley  Watkins finally started to improve his finishing by recent matches. When he scores Aston Villa are able to win easier. I think Emery is already doing much more than the board's expectations. He is really one of the best managers in the recent years as he improves the way his team play wherever he goes to.
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Manchester United 1 : 2 Nigeria Fulham boys
I know you will be surprised at the title of my post but that is just the reality. The Nigerian defender and midfielder in this concluded AFCON in the person of Bassey and Iwobi were the goal scorers for Fulham that enabled them trash Manchester United today. I don't know if I will say that it is the effect of the successful AFCON they played.

In the other hand, Manchester United did not do enough to secure 3 points for them. Even when their former captain Harry Maguire tried to make them go home with 1 point, it was all to no avail.

Watching the match, I completely agree with this result, it could be a waste when they cannot take advantage of the home team. MU's attack in this match was really too good as I felt like they were truly invisible. The absence of Casemiro really made the lines ineffective from interception to attacking the ball.

Anyway, congratulations to Fullham on this result, they deserved 3 points. I really felt frustrated when the last goal was scored, because it happened quite unexpectedly when MU had just equalized.

Yep, a disappointing match for MU, and the upcoming round with Man City will have a lot to do to hope for a better result.
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Arsenal are returning to the Premier League after losing to Porto in the Champions League disappointingly. The fans are hoping for a strong performance to make up for that loss. Because of the much worse look of Newcastle compared to last season I don't think Arsenal will lose points at Emirates. Arsenal are already in an incredible form here - a 5-win streak.

What do you think about Arsenal's PL title chance this year?  Huh  Truthfully I can't be much positive about it because of knowing their character. It feels like they will waste their potential chances just as last season.

As long as Manchester City don't become champions I'm okay with any other team.  Grin

Mind you, Arsenal has also lost narrowly during the previous fixture they've played in the Premier League Competition. It was due to VAR not doing a good job.
The lose to Porto wasn't expected honestly, but what's happened cannot be changed they have to focus on the fixtures ahead right now. if things goes as planned, then Arsenal would be able to score more than two goals. How they play tonight would definitely reflect on the game against Porto during the Champions League.

Manchester United bottled them chances and of closing the gap with Tottenham Hotspur. Wow mich expectations from them and they failed to respond well, some would blame it on the coach again!
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Manchester United 1 : 2 Nigeria Fulham boys
I know you will be surprised at the title of my post but that is just the reality. The Nigerian defender and midfielder in this concluded AFCON in the person of Bassey and Iwobi were the goal scorers for Fulham that enabled them trash Manchester United today. I don't know if I will say that it is the effect of the successful AFCON they played.

In the other hand, Manchester United did not do enough to secure 3 points for them. Even when their former captain Harry Maguire tried to make them go home with 1 point, it was all to no avail.
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Arsenal are returning to the Premier League after losing to Porto in the Champions League disappointingly. The fans are hoping for a strong performance to make up for that loss. Because of the much worse look of Newcastle compared to last season I don't think Arsenal will lose points at Emirates. Arsenal are already in an incredible form here - a 5-win streak.

What do you think about Arsenal's PL title chance this year?  Huh  Truthfully I can't be much positive about it because of knowing their character. It feels like they will waste their potential chances just as last season.

As long as Manchester City don't become champions I'm okay with any other team.  Grin

I think it will be difficult if we talk about Arsenal's chances of winning the PL this season. Actually, they still have a chance because they have really performed well in the last five matches. But the League only has a few games left. City and Liverpool are also in good form and they are very motivated to become champions. I think Arsenal will waste their chances again like last season. To be honest, their performance against Porto was not that bad. They were just unlucky because Porto was able to get the win at the end of the match. I'm sure Arsenal can avenge that defeat at the Emirates Stadium.
Nothing is impossible after Arsenal was able to be consistent until the end of the season and the difference between Liverpool, Manchester City and Arsenal is not too far, only 5 points, it is quite easy for Arsenal to catch up, but the problem is that Arsenal always have a bad habit when they are very consistent but towards the end of the season they actually lose consistent and being very bad like several seasons ago making mistakes like this Arsenal and for Liverpool it seems very convincing but lately the mainstay player Mohamed Salah is often injured and this will be a serious problem for Liverpool who will maintain their position while Manchester City is actually consistent as well as players who are strong enough to face both clubs and Guardiola will not let his club lose the title this season.
Arteta is a great coach but focusing on 2 competitions seems very difficult.
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I really don't understand some websites. Sometimes they write like a player is injured and won't play. But on matchday we see that player in the starting eleven or on the bench... They should be more careful with sharing news.
It would be very bad if Salah got injured again when the team was in a position like this. Liverpool must win all their matches if they want to become premier league champions. They are hunting for the title with City. We know City is a very dangerous rival and they will try to displace Liverpool from the top of the standings. But as you said, sometimes the media writes that players are injured but actually it's just a minor injury. I'm not interested in the EFL Cup but I hope Salah can play in all the remaining games in the Premier League.
I do agree that Salah is a very important part of Liverpool team and without him they are not going to be all that amazing. However, they should start looking to replace him already, they replaced almost everyone in that team and yet they are not really making any strides, that just doesn't make sense to me at all.

I understand that they are not looking all that crazy at the moment, but they are at least trying their best one way or another. I think the most important thing right now would be just making sure that it is not going to be all that much mattering eventually. I believe that we are going to end up with some troubles if Salah is not replaced soon, dude is getting older and has to be replaced eventually.

Salah is a very important piece of the puzzle for Liverpool. And I believe Liverpool is also very lucky to get the service of a player like him. But at the same time, I absolutely agree as well that they should really be looking forward for a replacement as soon as possible. I really wonder how it is going to be after Jurgen Klopp. This is a news that even got me to be a little sad and I am not a big Liverpool fan.

Anyway coming back to the point of Muhammad Salah being replaced, yes it has to be done. And if Liverpool is available to find a suitable replacement, they will genuinely suffer for a period of time.
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In today's match of Aston Villa vs Nottm Forest team, the game between the two teams is very intense. Aston Villa team has scored 4 goals so far but Nottm Forest team has scored 2 goals. Nottm Forest team's goal keeper has not performed very well. Aston Villa has scored 4 goals.  Team. Aston Villa player O. Watkins scored the 1st goal in 4 minutes. D.  Luiz scored 2 goals in today's match 2nd goal in 29 minutes and 3rd goal in 39 minutes.
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Arsenal are returning to the Premier League after losing to Porto in the Champions League disappointingly. The fans are hoping for a strong performance to make up for that loss. Because of the much worse look of Newcastle compared to last season I don't think Arsenal will lose points at Emirates. Arsenal are already in an incredible form here - a 5-win streak.

What do you think about Arsenal's PL title chance this year?  Huh  Truthfully I can't be much positive about it because of knowing their character. It feels like they will waste their potential chances just as last season.

As long as Manchester City don't become champions I'm okay with any other team.  Grin

I think it will be difficult if we talk about Arsenal's chances of winning the PL this season. Actually, they still have a chance because they have really performed well in the last five matches. But the League only has a few games left. City and Liverpool are also in good form and they are very motivated to become champions. I think Arsenal will waste their chances again like last season. To be honest, their performance against Porto was not that bad. They were just unlucky because Porto was able to get the win at the end of the match. I'm sure Arsenal can avenge that defeat at the Emirates Stadium.
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Arsenal are returning to the Premier League after losing to Porto in the Champions League disappointingly. The fans are hoping for a strong performance to make up for that loss. Because of the much worse look of Newcastle compared to last season I don't think Arsenal will lose points at Emirates. Arsenal are already in an incredible form here - a 5-win streak.

What do you think about Arsenal's PL title chance this year?  Huh  Truthfully I can't be much positive about it because of knowing their character. It feels like they will waste their potential chances just as last season.

As long as Manchester City don't become champions I'm okay with any other team.  Grin
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Is it really due to having the EFL Cup finale at the weekend? Because I saw it like he had a thigh injury that was why he couldn't play on a source. I hope he isn't injured once again. This would be devastating for the fans and people who don't want Manchester City to become PL champions once again.   Undecided  I hope you are right and Klopp just wanted not to risk him before the finale.

I really don't understand some websites. Sometimes they write like a player is injured and won't play. But on matchday we see that player in the starting eleven or on the bench... They should be more careful with sharing news.

It would be very bad if Salah got injured again when the team was in a position like this. Liverpool must win all their matches if they want to become premier league champions. They are hunting for the title with City. We know City is a very dangerous rival and they will try to displace Liverpool from the top of the standings. But as you said, sometimes the media writes that players are injured but actually it's just a minor injury. I'm not interested in the EFL Cup but I hope Salah can play in all the remaining games in the Premier League.
This weekend, the EFL cup final will take place and the two teams going up against themselves have been long time rivals too. To be fair in judgement, it'll be an easy game for one of the teams considering past performances and all time performances this season too. First for Chelsea, this season have been unfavorable to them and frankly, they don't seem set to be EFL champions this season. They've not been able to prove their worthiness. As weeks go by, they keep having bad game records and it's not looking like it'll end in just a matchday. Although maybe a miracle can happen for them on Sunday but one thing is certain that Liverpool won't have it easy on them too. Hopefully the coach would know the proper approach to take for the game and the players would be productive in their efforts too.

 For Liverpool, they've not really been stressing to get good game records this season. Overtime they've been a better side than Chelsea and Sunday won't be an exemption. They've had good game outcomes this season, even their last games in passing weeks have been fair and enough confidence they possess for the final clash. They're determined too to bask the trophy even though they're aiming hard for the EPL trophy too. It won't hurt to get both cups though. They'll implement a lot of intensities in the game and Chelsea yes would fight to sustain the game to their best ability but only hopefully, they'll be able to stand strong and high to and at the end of the clash. A lot of bettors would favour Liverpool to win this game,  but they shouldn't forget that it's a final and it's going to be very tough, Chelsea are not going to allow them win easily they'll definitely fight back and bettors should use their last fixture against Manchester City as a yardstick. Well even though Liverpool wins I think btts would come through for some bettors.
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~snip~But in my opinion Manchester United inconsistency is none other than because many of their players have experienced a setback in their performance this season. In terms of defense, they are experiencing big problems which may have to be fixed at the end of this season and also for the front line, of course Manchester United needs quality stickers when it comes to scoring goals. For this season I think Manchester United's target is only to return to the top 4 rankings.

Because in terms of defense, Manchester United is quite weak, therefore Manchester United will be looking for a new defender. It is common knowledge that Manchester United is hunting for a new center back. In the summer, they may be left behind by Raphael Varane and Jonny Evans, whose contracts expire on June 30 2024. Many top defenders have been linked with Manchester United, such as Marc Guehi from Crystal Palace, who is a young player who will be a good central defender with still strong form. Guehi, who is a former Chelsea player, is rumored to be priced at around 50 million pounds in the summer transfer market.

In this Manchester United defense, I can only boast of  Diego Dalot, Luke Shaw, Lisandro Martinez, Rapheal Varane and lastly Aaron Wan Bisakka. The rest I have nothing to say about they're not consistent and some are overhyped and over protected even when they do not do enough for the club Manchester United.

Jonny Evans am Harry Maguire should leave, they're too dull and that has affected the pace of the game from the back.

Guehi from Crystal Palace would make lots of sense,  he has been linked more than a month or two now with Manchester United. The new owners are more interested in getting players who are close to them contract getting to the end or in the next six months. I know the new sporting directors would all link up for whatever that's best for the club.
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Salah age factor which continues to age will certainly affect his performance on the field so that in the future Liverpool will no longer be able to have full hopes for Salah, apart from that, it is reported that Salah is also starting to be targeted by other teams, especially Arab clubs who even dare to pay a lot of money for Salah, and I has even read ,If Salah had received a fantastic offer from Al Ittihad in the transfer market last summer, amounting to 150 million pounds and at that time Liverpool refused to let Salah go, at his current age it would of course be very difficult for Salah to continue to show consistent and stable performance as liverpool expected, like you say that like it or not Liverpool must immediately look for a replacement for Salah at this time, and reportedly there are many names that are predicted to be Salah replacement at Liverpool and one of them is Pedro Neto from Wolves, but so far Liverpool have not shown certainty about recruiting Neto because of the price asked by Wolves very high.
Yes, it is true that Mohamed Salah is a little older, but the problem of getting injured too often is not a problem with his age, but in my opinion, he is still physically strong enough, it's just that he has to rest more often when he has matches scheduled in other competitions so that he doesn't get too tired and get injured naturally, there won't be a recurrence because he has been competing since the start of the full season so it's natural that now he sits on the bench more often to maintain his physical condition and I really hope that in the final match, Mohamed Salah can appear along with the other players.

Regarding the transfer of Mohamed Salah, I think I doubt Liverpool will let go of this player unless Liverpool's coach is no longer Klopp and of course the new coach who will be recruited will greatly influence Salah future, whether he will be sold or retained.
When Liverpool gets a replacement for Klopp with a reliable coach, I'm sure Salah will definitely prefer to stay at Liverpool even though the Saudi Arabian club made a very big offer.
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