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Quote from: Docnaster on February 02, 2024, 12:07:06 PM

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For Chelsea's target of finishing in the top 4 or 5, I don't think it will ever happen, they don't deserve it, they still have a lot to fix and it's possible that won't be possible this season.

Actually, the statement to say whether it is appropriate or not is not worth pinning down because all clubs deserve to be there, but on the other hand, there is truth in what you say, that it is better to focus on improving yourself for next season, if this season you only finish in the bottom of the top ten, it will not work. disturbing the club's reputation because everyone knows that Chelsea is in difficult times, it's not surprising that Chelsea often lose points in important matches, but from their last five matches they only lost two times, the remaining three wins are positive things that Chelsea has shown in my opinion.

After Chelsea's disappointing performance in the English Premier League last season, Mauricio Pochentino was brought to the club to help significantly improve their performance this season as well as making sure that they finish in the top four of the league table at the end of the current season but considering what we've seen so far from the team, I don't think that there's any possibility for the Blues to finish in the top four of the league table.

After their humiliating defeat at Anfield two days ago, it became very clear to the club's fans and management that the best they can do at the moment is to finish in the top six which I also think will be very difficult for the London club

Mauricio Pochettino is a very good coach as his good coaching skills was confirmed during his managerial role in Tottenham and PSG though he didn't achieve a trophy while as Tottenham manager but during his duty as Tottenham head coach he did extraordinarily well so for me the only problem Mauricio Pochettino have at Chelsea is just that he inherited the club at a very bad state so it's gonna take him more time to build the club to a standard that they can become consistent in their performance so Chelsea drop in performance isn't about the coach but rather the mentality of the players and moreover, the club needs so sign tactical players that can be able to do the finishing and also take proper care of their defense because Chelsea's defense is very easy to penetrate that's why they concede so much goals in most of their matches. Their being able to achieve the top six position in the league table is dependent on their efforts otherwise it may really be difficult for the club.

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Quote from: Docnaster on February 02, 2024, 12:07:06 PM

After Chelsea's disappointing performance in the English Premier League last season, Mauricio Pochentino was brought to the club to help significantly improve their performance this season as well as making sure that they finish in the top four of the league table at the end of the current season but considering what we've seen so far from the team, I don't think that there's any possibility for the Blues to finish in the top four of the league table.

After their humiliating defeat at Anfield two days ago, it became very clear to the club's fans and management that the best they can do at the moment is to finish in the top six which I also think will be very difficult for the London club

In building a squad that has fallen too far, of course it takes time for the coach to restore their strength. Yes, what happened at Chelsea looks like it will take a long time for them to get up and compete at the top of the standings. Chelsea does have a good history but of course their downfall was after Roman Abramovich sold Chelsea at the insistence of the British government. And that was the beginning of chelsea downfall and all the changes carried out by Todd boehly certainly could not bring Chelsea back to being the strongest in the Premier League.

Well, for Pochettino, he is a coach who is no stranger to the Premier League, but with the way he handles the team, of course he needs time to bring big changes to chelsea. Apart from that, we can see that this season chelsea will again fail to be able to close the season in the top 4 because currently they are quite far behind the team that are ranked in the top 4.

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Manchester United are so short of players this season that they cannot perform well without the right players. Of course, Manchester United needs a star while the defense is strong, but the attack is not so strong. So it definitely needs a star in the attack department.

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Quote from: X-ray on February 02, 2024, 11:54:07 AM

It's impossible to happen if chelsea keeps performing like shit. I meant that we have seen that how poor the performance from chelsea this season is and a half of billion spent for nothing by pochettino. Chelsea has been recruiting too many unproven youngstars and these players are totally useless.
Chelsea must have won continously to get the europa league ticket this season. The competition is just getting harder after chelsea lost against liverpool. Chelsea may be having easy fixtures to come soon and i think that the club must have prepared to get full points from those easy opponents.
This is the only chance for chelsea to get europa league ticket this season. im thinking that if pochettino must be sacked if he keeps performing like shit. Pochettino's decision making is terrible and i can't even watch it how chelsea kept get another lose.
This is another disaster season for chelsea and it doesn't matter how hard the players tried and pochettino will always be doing stupid experiment that was putting the club into the disadvantage. I hate this guy caused by he was unable to make chelsea becomes competitive like other club.

Chelsea making some big money spendings and not achieving results is something that’s getting the fans worried. Like why get such talents for crazy feees and yet they can’t prove the to show they’re worth that loud amount used to sign them. The team is doing very poorly and of they continue losing points then they won’t be having the least Conference League spot and it’ll be a big shame to them. For an European spot, Chelsea will need to win all the remaining matches and that’s going to be a bog challenge for Poch.

Well Poch job might be underfire especially if he’s not able to get maximum points fro these fixtures. He makes some bad decisions that are wuite worrisome and shouldn’t be made and I know the board are taking notes. Well I wish this Chelsea team will be able to prove their loud worth and save their faces.

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Quote from: Godday on February 02, 2024, 03:40:04 AM

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For Chelsea's target of finishing in the top 4 or 5, I don't think it will ever happen, they don't deserve it, they still have a lot to fix and it's possible that won't be possible this season.

I agree with what you said. They don't deserve it. Chelsea's performance has been really bad this season. I don't know which fan said Chelsea could possibly reach the top 4 or 5 at the end of the season. I think at the moment Tottenham, Aston Villa and West Ham are much better than Chelsea so it's completely unreasonable to say Chelsea will be able to get a place in the top 4 or five at the end of the season. They have to correct their mistakes in this season because I don't think they will get any place in the international league in the next season.

There are still 16 matches left this season, we don't know what will happen at the end of the season and all clubs in the Premier League still have the opportunity to be in the top 5 positions in the points table as long as they have high consistency.
Chelsea this season seems to have no hope anymore, even since last season Chelsea fail to get a top 5 position to get a ticket to the Champions League or UEL.
I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea fans still have confidence that their favorite club can still achieve what they hope for even though in terms of performance Chelsea doesn't have the ability to increase the number of points consistently but always performs poorly and doesn't live up to expectations.

In fact, it's quite easy to see that Chelsea has improved or just wants to performed as usual, namely looking at the winnings result, if Chelsea is able to get 5 wins in a row, I'am sure this club is capable of reaching the top 5, but since the start of the season until today, Chelsea has not had such an achievement and we just look at the upcoming match against Wolves who are right below whether Chelsea is able to get a win or just a draw.
If I fail to get a win, I think Chelsea will definitely fail again.

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Quote from: Godday on February 02, 2024, 03:40:04 AM

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For Chelsea's target of finishing in the top 4 or 5, I don't think it will ever happen, they don't deserve it, they still have a lot to fix and it's possible that won't be possible this season.

I agree with what you said. They don't deserve it. Chelsea's performance has been really bad this season. I don't know which fan said Chelsea could possibly reach the top 4 or 5 at the end of the season. I think at the moment Tottenham, Aston Villa and West Ham are much better than Chelsea so it's completely unreasonable to say Chelsea will be able to get a place in the top 4 or five at the end of the season. They have to correct their mistakes in this season because I don't think they will get any place in the international league in the next season.

Not only they do not deserve it, I also think that we are not going to end up with anything near that level for them this season, they are lucky to be in top 10 this season and just should be happy with that. They are barely 10th now, and I think they will stay around that level, 11th is just 2 points away from them but they are also only 1 point behind 9th, so it means they have to fight for their spot right now.

I think they will finish barely within top ten and they should be happy if they can actually achieve it. You don't have to be a good team right away, they are spending some money and they may become better in the future but for the current season they just need to make sure that they are finishing it as high as possible.

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Quote from: bitcampaign on February 02, 2024, 08:30:31 AM

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For Chelsea's target of finishing in the top 4 or 5, I don't think it will ever happen, they don't deserve it, they still have a lot to fix and it's possible that won't be possible this season.

Actually, the statement to say whether it is appropriate or not is not worth pinning down because all clubs deserve to be there, but on the other hand, there is truth in what you say, that it is better to focus on improving yourself for next season, if this season you only finish in the bottom of the top ten, it will not work. disturbing the club's reputation because everyone knows that Chelsea is in difficult times, it's not surprising that Chelsea often lose points in important matches, but from their last five matches they only lost two times, the remaining three wins are positive things that Chelsea has shown in my opinion.

After Chelsea's disappointing performance in the English Premier League last season, Mauricio Pochentino was brought to the club to help significantly improve their performance this season as well as making sure that they finish in the top four of the league table at the end of the current season but considering what we've seen so far from the team, I don't think that there's any possibility for the Blues to finish in the top four of the league table.

After their humiliating defeat at Anfield two days ago, it became very clear to the club's fans and management that the best they can do at the moment is to finish in the top six which I also think will be very difficult for the London club

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Chelsea looked quite weak in yesterday match and they even seemed to have great difficulty in threatening Liverpool goal.

Yeah, it was pretty bad. And it could've been even worse if not for the missed penalty.
Chelsea got absolutely dominated, only managed to make a total of 4 shots (3 on target) in the entire game Vs Liverpool's 28 (13 on target). It doesn't get much worse than that.
It almost seemed like Liverpool was playing a team from a much lower division. Now they're too far behind to even dream about finishing in the top 5.

chelsea's target this season is best to be able to compete in Europe next season europa league or europa confrence league. and in the efl cup chelsea qualify for the final. by winning the efl cup it is guaranteed to get europa league tickets. the best target this season is winning the efl cup or top 6 at the end of the competition. champion league is impossible with chelsea's performance this season which is very bad.

It's impossible to happen if chelsea keeps performing like shit. I meant that we have seen that how poor the performance from chelsea this season is and a half of billion spent for nothing by pochettino. Chelsea has been recruiting too many unproven youngstars and these players are totally useless.
Chelsea must have won continously to get the europa league ticket this season. The competition is just getting harder after chelsea lost against liverpool. Chelsea may be having easy fixtures to come soon and i think that the club must have prepared to get full points from those easy opponents.
This is the only chance for chelsea to get europa league ticket this season. im thinking that if pochettino must be sacked if he keeps performing like shit. Pochettino's decision making is terrible and i can't even watch it how chelsea kept get another lose.
This is another disaster season for chelsea and it doesn't matter how hard the players tried and pochettino will always be doing stupid experiment that was putting the club into the disadvantage. I hate this guy caused by he was unable to make chelsea becomes competitive like other club.

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Quote from: klidex on February 02, 2024, 12:36:56 AM

It is true that Chelsea is currently having a bad season in contrast to Liverpool who are experience a much better season, even from the standings table alone it is clear that Chelsea and Liverpool are at different level. Chelsea is like a mediocre club which is ranked 10th while Liverpool is in first place, which mean it will not be easy for Chelsea to beat Liverpool and hold Liverpool to a draw because this club is struggling to maintain its top position so as not to be displaced by Manchester City who continues to trail Liverpool in 2nd placed.

Chelsea is already quite far behind with the top 5 ranked clubs. Aston Villa has collection 43 points while Chelsea has only collected 31 points. The difference of 12 points is a very big difference. It's impossible if Chelsea is able to catch up to be ranked in the top 5. I think Chelsea might still end up on the board middle of the standings or at least in the top 10 of the standings.

Well Chelsea are ranked so below on the log and I can see them around 10th position with about 31 points and we can see Villa in 5th with 43 points. This alone shows that Chelsea aren’t doing pretty good this season even with the huge sunmer spendings. Well they’re in a final with Liverpool and Yes no one is rating them in that final but I think Chelsea will be very active in that final and could give Liverpool a shocker in that final. Liverpool are sitting ontop and are bery active because they’re being trailed by City who’re second.

With the log standings, I think Chelsea might not feature in any European tournament next season except they go ahead to win the FA Cup apart from that I don’t see Chelsea finishing above 8th position on the standings, they ’re not in the best form. The team still needs much work then they’ll get back to the fierce Chelsea we know.

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Manchester United are without playing entertaining football once again. They needed to win their game tonight against Wolves which they did put in their best to make sure they took all three points from the game. However, we mustn't shy away from the fact that the club's defensive display tonight was very bad and if not for the stoppage time goal from Mainoo, Wolves would've come back from 3:1 to share points with Erik ten Hag's Manchester United. Wolves did equalize in the game in the 5th minute of additional but failed to to protect their result till the final whistle as Manchester United's Mainoo scored two minutes later to ensure that Manchester United leaves the Molineux stadium tonight. Great result for Manchester United as they got an important win tonight

Manchester United had a thrilling and hard-fought match against Wolves, but they secured a crucial win in the end. The fact that they needed to put in their big efforts to ensure the three points reflects the struggling situation in their side. The defensive issues faced by Manchester United is an area that may need attention and improvement to ensure a more balanced and secure performance, especially in the latter stages of the game.

The stoppage time goal from Mainoo that secured the victory demonstrates the resilience and determination of the Manchester United squad. Coming back to secure a win after the equalizer shows character and fighting spirit, which are essential qualities for a successful team. This result will undoubtedly boost the confidence of Manchester United, and it's a positive outcome as they aim to maintain momentum and compete at the highest level. Matches like these, with late drama and critical goals, contribute to the excitement.

Manchester had no success after Alex Ferguson. I don't think there will be success with Erik ten Hag either. There are young players in his squad, but Erik ten Hag was not successful in giving the young players the necessary momentum. I think he will stay until the end of the year at most and then they will sign an agreement with a new manager. After yesterday's match, other teams saw this. There was a belief that they could turn the match even if they were behind Manu by 2 points. There is a West Ham match on Sunday. It won't be an easy match. West Ham are undefeated in the last 6 matches.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on February 01, 2024, 10:57:52 PM

For Chelsea's target of finishing in the top 4 or 5, I don't think it will ever happen, they don't deserve it, they still have a lot to fix and it's possible that won't be possible this season.

Actually, the statement to say whether it is appropriate or not is not worth pinning down because all clubs deserve to be there, but on the other hand, there is truth in what you say, that it is better to focus on improving yourself for next season, if this season you only finish in the bottom of the top ten, it will not work. disturbing the club's reputation because everyone knows that Chelsea is in difficult times, it's not surprising that Chelsea often lose points in important matches, but from their last five matches they only lost two times, the remaining three wins are positive things that Chelsea has shown in my opinion.

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The fact is true, Chelsea lost badly to Liverpool with a score of 4 - 1. Even though Chelsea had the opportunity to score, Liverpool's defenders became very strong in suppressing the opponent's movements, so that again and again, Chelsea players were unable to go further towards the opponent's defense effectively. And what's more, Liverpool controlled the match, they controlled the ball more and launched more attacks. A total of 28 shots and 13 shots on target. This ultimately makes the Chelsea players very stressed. And the result was as expected, Liverpool did it.

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Manchester United misused their chance in the early minutes of the second half which led to their struggle to win the match at the extra time of stoppage time. Manchester United don't always take their matches that serious whenever they are the ones leading the game. The penalty given to Wolves motivated them, and they almost draw the game.

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Quote from: davis196 on February 02, 2024, 02:43:58 AM

Great game between Man United and Wolves(is was great for the neutral fans, not the Man United fans). Getting equalized from 3-1 to 3-3 means that Manchester United lacks confidence and strong defense, their goalkeeper is also mediocre. The "red devils" got kinda lucky because of their 4th goal, but I'm sure that they will keep losing points against the weaker teams in the Premier League.
I hear rumors that United wants to buy Ronaldo Araujo from Barcelona during the summer. I'm not sure that this will stabilize their defensive play.
Marcus Rashford scored a goal, but he is still far away from his peak performance. Manchester United needs several new players and a new manager.

Especially Hojlund and Rashford's performances made me satisfied.

Because these two players are very important for the score contribution now. Rashford has been indeed far from his last season productivity. But lately there is a good improvement in his scoring skills. Rashford should be able to refute the girlfriend theory about him immediately. Tongue

If you don't know about the theory I can summarize it like this:

- Rashford has been able to score many goals and concentration on his game fully when he isn't single. But it has been the opposite in the times he is single. Grin

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Great game between Man United and Wolves(is was great for the neutral fans, not the Man United fans). Getting equalized from 3-1 to 3-3 means that Manchester United lacks confidence and strong defense, their goalkeeper is also mediocre. The "red devils" got kinda lucky because of their 4th goal, but I'm sure that they will keep losing points against the weaker teams in the Premier League.
I hear rumors that United wants to buy Ronaldo Araujo from Barcelona during the summer. I'm not sure that this will stabilize their defensive play.
Marcus Rashford scored a goal, but he is still far away from his peak performance. Manchester United needs several new players and a new manager.

Even though Manchester United scored 3 points, this victory didn't seem to be that special, because Onana kept conceding and the goal scored by the Wolves players was almost a kick that Onana should have been able to handle easily. Wolves made a good comeback but in the final minutes Kobbie Mainoo became the hero of the victory. In my opinion, Erik Ten Hag must continue to evaluate the performance of his players, especially perhaps being able to temporarily replace Onana with goalkeeper Altay Bayındır, maybe he could be better than Onana.

Seeing Hojlund progress, he has gradually started to enjoy his game and most importantly, Hojlund is not selfish in sharing opportunities with other players. Rashford is now widely doubted by several Manchester United players, absent from training because he was enjoying a party. Erik Ten Hag, if he is really firm, should be able to give a strong warning to anyone, including Rashford, who goes around as he pleases. Rashford is starting to show his indiscipline and that is very bad for a player who is still young.

davis196, Actually Manchester United actually needs a new manager and they also need a lot of change in the squad. Otherwise, the team is not working as well as it should. I think with the team that Manchester United has right now, a new coach can come in and make it work.

But The idea of ‘"making it work" is probably not the best one for Manchester United right now. Because Manchester United need a lot better performance than they are showing right now. So he will have to make a lot of changes. And we also know that some players are not happy. They will have to go and new players will have to be brought in. That is going to cost a lot of money. I hope Manchester United is ready to spend that money

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Quote from: zaim7413 on February 02, 2024, 04:03:03 AM

It is very difficult to match the strength of Liverpool who is performing at the peak of their performance, the performances of the two teams which are very different will also produce different results. Chelsea who are currently in a slump, are still having difficulty facing Liverpool, defeat is still very attached to them because the shortcomings in the team have not been able to be resolved.
Klopp is very confident in the current condition of his team, victory over Chelsea is certainly very important for Liverpool who are keeping their distance from Manchester City. As a result of this defeat, it is increasingly difficult for Chelsea to crawl from the middle of the standings, there is no hope for them to appear in European competition next season because their performance has not improved.

If bad results keep coming in then I think fans will start trending the #PochOut but while waiting let’s see what he’s got to offer before the season ends. Chelsea is a big club and losing 4-1 is really crazy and isn’t needed at this point. Nkuku happened to be the only standout player in the Chelsea squad yesterday and he should be appreciated and other players should also improve too.

Well their players especially Gallagher is already over worked and has proven he needs to be on this Chelsea team majorly because of the dirty tackles he helps them do. Well I wouldn’t be blaming on Gallagher but rather Caicedo who should be helping him out has ended up ghosting. Pochettino also has his fair share of the blame because why will he use Cole as a False 9 in that game? He’s tried that before and it didn’t work so why trying again and worst of all in a match against Liverpool.

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Quote from: davis196 on February 02, 2024, 02:43:58 AM

Great game between Man United and Wolves(is was great for the neutral fans, not the Man United fans). Getting equalized from 3-1 to 3-3 means that Manchester United lacks confidence and strong defense, their goalkeeper is also mediocre. The "red devils" got kinda lucky because of their 4th goal, but I'm sure that they will keep losing points against the weaker teams in the Premier League.
I hear rumors that United wants to buy Ronaldo Araujo from Barcelona during the summer. I'm not sure that this will stabilize their defensive play.
Marcus Rashford scored a goal, but he is still far away from his peak performance. Manchester United needs several new players and a new manager.

Even though Manchester United scored 3 points, this victory didn't seem to be that special, because Onana kept conceding and the goal scored by the Wolves players was almost a kick that Onana should have been able to handle easily. Wolves made a good comeback but in the final minutes Kobbie Mainoo became the hero of the victory. In my opinion, Erik Ten Hag must continue to evaluate the performance of his players, especially perhaps being able to temporarily replace Onana with goalkeeper Altay Bayındır, maybe he could be better than Onana.

Seeing Hojlund progress, he has gradually started to enjoy his game and most importantly, Hojlund is not selfish in sharing opportunities with other players. Rashford is now widely doubted by several Manchester United players, absent from training because he was enjoying a party. Erik Ten Hag, if he is really firm, should be able to give a strong warning to anyone, including Rashford, who goes around as he pleases. Rashford is starting to show his indiscipline and that is very bad for a player who is still young.

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I think this is not too surprising for many people because Chelsea has not completely improved because sometimes Chelsea is still inconsistent and sometime cannot put pressure on weak teams and sometimes Chelsea can still be beaten by an ordinary team. This defeat is not surprising because basically Liverpool is in good form this season and with full confidence in being able to win the EPL title this season while still being coaching by Kloop, and of course Kloop want to wins the EPL title for the last time with Liverpool.

It is very difficult to match the strength of Liverpool who is performing at the peak of their performance, the performances of the two teams which are very different will also produce different results. Chelsea who are currently in a slump, are still having difficulty facing Liverpool, defeat is still very attached to them because the shortcomings in the team have not been able to be resolved.
Klopp is very confident in the current condition of his team, victory over Chelsea is certainly very important for Liverpool who are keeping their distance from Manchester City. As a result of this defeat, it is increasingly difficult for Chelsea to crawl from the middle of the standings, there is no hope for them to appear in European competition next season because their performance has not improved.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on February 01, 2024, 10:57:52 PM

For Chelsea's target of finishing in the top 4 or 5, I don't think it will ever happen, they don't deserve it, they still have a lot to fix and it's possible that won't be possible this season.

I agree with what you said. They don't deserve it. Chelsea's performance has been really bad this season. I don't know which fan said Chelsea could possibly reach the top 4 or 5 at the end of the season. I think at the moment Tottenham, Aston Villa and West Ham are much better than Chelsea so it's completely unreasonable to say Chelsea will be able to get a place in the top 4 or five at the end of the season. They have to correct their mistakes in this season because I don't think they will get any place in the international league in the next season.

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Great game between Man United and Wolves(is was great for the neutral fans, not the Man United fans). Getting equalized from 3-1 to 3-3 means that Manchester United lacks confidence and strong defense, their goalkeeper is also mediocre. The "red devils" got kinda lucky because of their 4th goal, but I'm sure that they will keep losing points against the weaker teams in the Premier League.
I hear rumors that United wants to buy Ronaldo Araujo from Barcelona during the summer. I'm not sure that this will stabilize their defensive play.
Marcus Rashford scored a goal, but he is still far away from his peak performance. Manchester United needs several new players and a new manager.

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