Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 428. (Read 77805 times)

The Liverpool team that played against Arsenal was a total shadow of what they used to be. The defence was just too sloppy that they failed to check the Arsenal defence. The first goal by Saka was a rebound which means the Liverpool defense failed to clear the ball after a good save from Alisson. The second goal by Martinelli was because of a lack of communication between Van Dijk and Allison and the last goal by Trossard happened because the defence was not proactive in stopping the fast runs from Trossard. Liverpool has about three defenders that failed to challenge the striker which gave him the chance to strike.

Jürgen Klopp has to work on his players if he wants to have a good departure gift at the end of the season. Maybe his announcement that he would be leaving the club at the end of the season has negatively affected the morale of the players.

This will definitely be interesting because currently Manchester City are still 5 points behind Liverpool but with the advantage they have where they currently still have 2 matches (including today's match) makes Manchester City have a positive thing because to catch up with Liverpool they only have to maximize these 2 matches well so that their situation in the standings can compete again in the race for the EPL trophy.
Liverpool's defeat yesterday became a blessing in itself in this case because after all, with Liverpool's defeat apart from Arsenal who managed to approach Manchester City also has a great chance to continue to compete in the race for the trophy this season.

Facing Brentford in 1 hour they already look very favorite even though we know that Brentford sometimes always gives extraordinary surprises but still if we talk about conditions and advantages to date Manchester City is an undisputed favorite even though this is an away match for them.
Currently, with the arrival of several players such as KDB and Doku in Manchester City's midfield, their breakout power is getting stronger. In addition, it is likely that Haaland has also prepared in this regard and allows with a complete squad I think there is no doubt for 3 points in today's match.

Fully expect Man City to take advantage of Liverpool’s slip up yesterday and destroy Brentford tonight. This is the time of every season under Pep where they rattle off 10+ consecutive victories to really swing the title pendulum in their favour.

I’m disappointed in Liverpool yesterday but we hadn’t lost in the league since September and Salah was out. We will regroup and put Burnley to the sword on Saturday.

Betting on Manchester City is a wise choice right now considering that Arsenal managed to beat Liverpool yesterday. Manchester City will be in second place if they manage to beat Brentford because their GD will be greater than Arsenal. Apart from that another consideration is that they have a 2 game deficit, which means they should be in first place if they manage to wipe out their deficit.

Bookies themselves give @1.36 for Manchester City to win in the 1X2 bet, while for handicap bookies give @1.93 for Manchester City -1.5. I don't think it's too worrying because I'm sure Manchester City will do that.

The situation has got very interesting for sure. If we talk about goalkeepers first, I will have to say that a goalkeeper can make mistakes under pressure. And he is also the most important player for a team. It is easy to replace almost any other player unless they are Lionel Messi or Christiano Ronaldo. But it is very hard to replace a goalkeeper. Of course, we can understand that by watching the goalkeeper of  Manchester United.

No, Manchester City having two matches left that's definitely made it interesting. What if Liverpool and Arsenal cannot be very consistent? It will be a matter of time before Manchester City gets back on the first position.

Duke Khan

Nothing will stop me not to watch this game to see how many goals Manchester city will achieve from Brentford because, I don't think Brentford will have the strength to withstand Manchester city in this game today but anything can happen that will make the game to change for the favour of Brentford or Manchester city. Brentford is a weak team and it will give Manchester city the opportunity to win 3 points from this game without using too much strength to fight Brentford because, even though the game will going to change, it will be for the favour of Manchester city to remain in 3rd position.

Tomorrow will start Brentford vs Man City match between two teams. In this match I am thinking to bet against Brentford team. I hope Man City team can perform well in this match. Man City team has performed very well in the previous matches so in this match Man  City may perform well. Man City team is now at number 3 in the points table.

The game seemed so tactical with both teams played with careful and slow pace at building attacks. The game took a turn due to unfortunate mistakes by Alisson and Van Dijk, which significantly impacted the outcome. The situation worsened for Liverpool when Ibrahima Konaté received a red card, putting them at a numerical disadvantage. The Premier League competition is undeniably becoming tighter, especially with the thin points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal, and Manchester City.

The fact that Manchester City still has two matches left to play adds an additional layer of suspense. If they manage to secure victories in these two matches, they could potentially move to the top of the standings, just one point ahead of Liverpool. The unpredictability of football and the competitive nature of the Premier League make every match crucial for the title race. Fans can expect an intense battle as the season progresses, with the potential for frequent changes in the standings.

Onana sometimes was lucky enough when the defensive line of mu was performing so perfect like in the match against westham. Even though manchester united was only making 5 goal attempts but three of these have been converted into the goals. I think that onana has been lowering his standard since he was leaving from intermilan.
No progress, no improvement and no more patience for him. Some people keep delusional waiting for him to perform better but it's never happening. Im still also feeling curious how can people be very patience waiting him to make the progress while he never deliver?

The only best solution for this to kick him out from the club. Onana was just degrading the level of club. he was actually useless goal keeper of manchester united. I strong support MU to put him on the bench then bought the new goal keeper to come in.
Onana was not even making individual improvement. I don't see it till now. There's no need to be patience anymore to trust his process caused by he will never ever make it happen.

Mu can be better once onana will be only sitting on the bench. MU needs someone who can perform like vicario on totenham. At least someone who have fast response to catch the ball.

In fact, Liverpool's game was optimal and several times threatened Arsenal's defense. However, fatal mistakes made by Alisson and Van Dijk changed everything. Not to mention, when Liverpool wanted to catch up, they lost one player because of the red card received by Ibrahima Konaté. Now the Premier League competition is getting tighter because the points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City is very thin. Not to mention, Manchester City still has two matches left to play. If Manchester City can win these two matches, Manchester City will be at the top of the standings with 1 point ahead of Liverpool.

Too much have been said bout Andrea Onana and his blunders, Have you seen the recent blunders from Allison Becker yesterday? Bank on that also. As for Andrea Onana, I feel sad though but he should step up his game for Manchester United he should make sure to give his best. Though I'll blame his struggles on the poor and weak defenders since the start of the new season.

David De Gea is now of the past and Manchester United fans should also try to accept it. Andrea Onana can get better but they'll have to support Andre Onana henceforth with full confidence.
Top challenge against Aston Villa, they'll definitely drop some players due to the European Europa Conference League Competition.

Well this match had all the fun and excitements we all wished for and it also depicited the competitive nature of the EPL. Yes it ended 3-1 in facour of the home side, Arsenal as they have now proven to be one top side and also gotten close to Liverpool who’re still on top. This win for Arsenal means the title race is now quite open and Arsenal are actively involved though they’re a point away from City, but City have about 2 games in hand. This I think will be one big worry for Jurgen Klopp especially going forward especially as he’s without Star man, Salah and TAA haven’t gotten back his full potential.

 Kudos to Arsenal who outplayed Liverpool yesterday and showed every characteristics of a fighting team, they were determined at every point of the game and were hungry. The sub from Arteta was timely and yes, he left Havertz there to cause some worries for Konate who got his 2 yellow cards from different fouls on Kai. Trossard was an essential factor in this win and he was the super sub Arteta had in this game and yea he got the goal. This alone shows us how competitive this league is.

The Arsenal team is technically very high level. Odegard, Ben White, Martinelli, Jorginho, Havertz, Saliba all have great skills, just like City, their defence is very involved in the attack. Even Raya plays because he has a better foot than Ramsdale. But instead of tactical play in the match, Arsenal was able to prevail by the big mistakes of the liverpool defence. Arteta analysed liverpool well, they played most of the match without pressing in the third zone, they gave the ball to liverpool but gave very few positions.

A bad result for Liverpool. In fact, I was hoping for a draw for this match.  2 Liverpool player mistakes made Arsenal look more effective even though I saw Liverpool slightly superior in possession. Alisson and Van Dijk made fatal mistakes resulting in Arsenal goals. Of course this defeat makes Liverpool lose, the distance of points is getting thinner. Two points is not much, if Liverpool make mistakes then their position will not be safe. This moment should have been used by Liverpool to make the distance wider, but they failed.

Where did you see that Klopp said he wouldn't even stay until the end of this season?

He said he would leave by the end of this season, not before that time mate.    When it comes to which one of these tournaments, who knows maybe both of them. Technically they have a chance to win the titles of both tournaments with Klopp now. I wouldn't say no to seeing Liverpool doing a huge work like this truthfully. But even one of them would be a nice gift to the team by Klopp before his leaving. 

It's true as you said that Havertz didn't perform well in that match. But it is possible that Arteta really wants to rest Martinelli and give Trossard playing time. The results of this match have put Liverpool in a difficult situation because they are fighting for the EPL title this season with City. This result also opens up Arsenal's chances of winning the title again because they are only 2 and 3 points different from Liverpool and City, if City is able to complete their task well in the two saved matches.

It is very sad to see that the temporary leader of the Premier League had to suffer bad luck against Arsenal who were able to score and Liverpool couldn't even score and the 1 score that Liverpool got was just luck because of Gabriel mistake.
I was also a little disappointed because previously I predicted that Liverpool would win or at least the bad result would end in a draw but it was very far from expectations. What I thought in yesterday's match was that I experienced a slight decline in enthusiasm because Liverpool will definitely not only be under pressure from Manchester City but also Arsenal who will try shifted Liverpool position from first place.

Maybe this is because in terms of performance the Liverpool players are very different from the Arsenal players and one side Salah was not present in the match only relied on Diogo Jota and Luis Diaz.
Meanwhile, Arsenal still has its mainstays such as Saka and Martinelli whose performance is much better.
If Liverpool can't maintain their points in the next few matches, I'm sure they will be moved by MC or Arsenal.

Son played a very important role in any games of totenham. Richarlison has become savior for totenham. Getting draw was not good but i think that totenham will be facing another horrible situation if son will still injury. It's caused by son has become the main player that helped the club a lot.
Based on my observation after i was comparing last game to the game when son was there and there is a lot of different. Totenham's rythm is far slowed compared when son was playing for the club.

I think that totenham would be scoring a lot if son was able playing for the club.

Since the competition is just getting even harder and this is the main problem that shall be encountered by totenham. The main problem if totenham must be competing with more clubs that are starting to play even better.
Even manchester united is starting to climbing up too. Totenham must have put more efforts in pushing the performance from the club.

Well things between these two greats of the PL went very well, personally, I have always seen that things are quite emotional, I could say that these two teams went and did a great job, obviously Arsenal did a great work, they beat Liverpool, the leader of the PL, as I have said many times, this team is not at the top, it is very easy for them to dethrone it, even so things are going very well for them, they still maintain the same place, but Asenal is breathing down their necks, for me the only player who was good is the Colombian, because Klopp gave the spotlight to Mccalister, it didn't seem to me that all the balls went past him, for me they didn't nothing good with your player, I know he does it well, but this time he missed everything, passes, shots on goal, this game still has a hard time recovering, and for me it was the gap without a doubt, Arsenal's team arrived very easily and they penetrated with goals.

For me, Virgil's goal and the goalkeeper's goal was completely unrealistic, how is it possible that the goalkeeper's goal went so badly, he came out as if he were playing with children in a park, very badly, as if he were playing just to play, and not with the seriousness that this implies, Vigirl was also not able to head the ball but instead continued the game and ran, she trusted the goalkeeper and because of both of them, they scored the goal, and the most surprising thing is that in the end they scored another goal, that was the icing on the cake, and it was something that I didn't think, they looked very bad, in truth that match was even that it would have been 2 to 1 not 3 to 1, where they really looked very humiliated and too bad, personally when I see that there are teams like this, it is not good that the cases are going to be done as they were shown, it is something that should never be done, I could think that when there is a better way to do the things must be done, this time it was Klopp's fault.

Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp unleashes 'unbelievable' ref tirade after Arsenal collapse




Well, the MU thing is something that makes me very sad about Garnacho, Bruno Fernenandeoz, some of the players are very good, yes, but they can't hope to win a PL, UCL or even a Europa League, in fact they are no longer scary like before, and this is something that saddens me, it's not a bad thing but for me, the best time of the MU was when Tevez and Rooney were there, that for me is the best thing that could have happened to them, on a personal level I have always been a fan of the MU, but when Ten Hag came in and started his treatment with the team, things got out of control and I lost faith, so he got involved with CR7 and all this, well things were very different, and the team started to fall a lot, in fact this made things very different now, then that's why I see the team so badly, of course it's my perception of things I don't know if this has anything to do with what the MU is now .

Extended Highlights: Manchester United 3-0 West Ham United




Source: https://www.whufc.com/news/extended-highlights-manchester-united-3-0-west-ham-united

With the quality of players like this, Man United should be a contender for the championship, it's just that the chemistry between the players is still lacking, fortunately in the last two matches they have started to get better, and even against Westham they got a clean sheet, this needs to be maintained.

Speed and transitions between players must be further improved so that they can be consistent, at least approaching the level of Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool, whose games are already mature.
So Man United is still raw, and needs to be refined again, Man United must continue to improve so that it can play an offensive and efficient game, like in the SAF era. However, sometimes we are still worried about the Onana goalkeeper who often makes blunders, with a total of 50 goals conceded, which is not a small number for a goalkeeper who plays at a club as big as Man United. But I only take the positive side, hopefully this will be a good start for Man United to recover and gain confidence again.