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Quote from: armanda90 on July 02, 2023, 02:06:27 AM

Its not fault with fresh Premier League season 2023/2024 discussion thread but less with name teams participants and good ideas is there has vote for the winner Primer League tittle. All Primer League teams have 42 days left before league begin and seems some of team not completed their squad. Manchester United have loss the main goals keeper David De Gea and not getting replacement until three days after De Gea contract expiring.

Promotion Primer League teams season 2023/24 are Burnley, Sheffield United and Luton Twon FC are interested for discussing how capacity keep stay in Primer League or success break until top standing position. But has problem with Luton Twon FC teams because their stadium under standards and have move to other stadium or they have renovation with Kenilworth Road stadium has good capacities or not.

Sheffield United will try their hardest not to return to the championships, they need to buy players but I believe they don't have enough funds to do so, but I am confident they will try their hardest in the premier league next season, they finished second in the championship when they defeated Birmingham 2-1 in their last game, Luton Town FC will still return to the championship, I am not sure if they can play well in the premier league but football is on predictable anything can happen, Burnley is a fantastic club that does well in the championship and wins the League Cup. They will also do well in the Premier League next season.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on July 02, 2023, 12:07:15 AM

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Have you heard of the news about Liverpool's possible offer for Mbappe in the near future? It is said that Liverpool will offer 300 million euros for him. I think PSG would be really willing to sell him in case there is an offer like that. Because even though PSG have to pay a lot of money to Mbappe in case of selling him early they will still be in a serious profit.

It is much better than letting him go without a transfer fee surely. In this case I assume that Liverpool wouldn't be the only team to make the same offer. Real Madrid have been monitoring his situation for a long time. I would expect them to meet the demands of PSG and Mbappe both undoubtedly.

In this case I don't think Liverpool's chance would be higher to sign him.

Mbappe deserve such offer, if Liverpool management have such amount of money to sign a single player in this summer, I think they will not regret it through out the years mbappe will going to spend with Liverpool because he is among the best strikers in the whole world. If Liverpool management stand on that amount of money, I think PSG management will prefer to release him to Liverpool than Real Madrid, because Mbappe really want to leave PSG so that he can join other teams to shine and achieve a good name at the end of the contract. Mbappe will prefer to join Liverpool than any other teams because he will not look at the money than to look at where he can perform very well in away he will remain the best player in the team which will be very easy for him to get such honor from Liverpool.

the question is, if indeed Liverpool are able to sign Mbappe with money worth € 300 million after that will Liverpool be able to give Mbappe a salary after spending a lot of money to sign him? I don't doubt Liverpool's finances but here the problem is that Mbappe is the most expensive player and has a very high salary and only certain teams are willing to take risks to get this top player.
from another opinion Liverpool also have to compete with other teams who are after Mbappe and this is what makes uncertain rumors always spread because no team has dared to take Mbappe to be added to the attack line.
But I always keep in mind that nothing is impossible, maybe Liverpool are desperate to sign Mbappe and maybe someone else will get in a bit of trouble.

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Its not fault with fresh Premier League season 2023/2024 discussion thread but less with name teams participants and good ideas is there has vote for the winner Primer League tittle. All Primer League teams have 42 days left before league begin and seems some of team not completed their squad. Manchester United have loss the main goals keeper David De Gea and not getting replacement until three days after De Gea contract expiring.

Promotion Primer League teams season 2023/24 are Burnley, Sheffield United and Luton Twon FC are interested for discussing how capacity keep stay in Primer League or success break until top standing position. But has problem with Luton Twon FC teams because their stadium under standards and have move to other stadium or they have renovation with Kenilworth Road stadium has good capacities or not.

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Have you heard of the news about Liverpool's possible offer for Mbappe in the near future? It is said that Liverpool will offer 300 million euros for him. I think PSG would be really willing to sell him in case there is an offer like that. Because even though PSG have to pay a lot of money to Mbappe in case of selling him early they will still be in a serious profit.

It is much better than letting him go without a transfer fee surely. In this case I assume that Liverpool wouldn't be the only team to make the same offer. Real Madrid have been monitoring his situation for a long time. I would expect them to meet the demands of PSG and Mbappe both undoubtedly.

In this case I don't think Liverpool's chance would be higher to sign him.

Mbappe deserve such offer, if Liverpool management have such amount of money to sign a single player in this summer, I think they will not regret it through out the years mbappe will going to spend with Liverpool because he is among the best strikers in the whole world. If Liverpool management stand on that amount of money, I think PSG management will prefer to release him to Liverpool than Real Madrid, because Mbappe really want to leave PSG so that he can join other teams to shine and achieve a good name at the end of the contract. Mbappe will prefer to join Liverpool than any other teams because he will not look at the money than to look at where he can perform very well in away he will remain the best player in the team which will be very easy for him to get such honor from Liverpool.

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Quote from: Despairo on July 01, 2023, 11:32:39 PM

Quote from: asriloni on July 01, 2023, 09:39:13 PM

Arsenal was doing so many crazy things in the current transfer season. I meant arsenal has been buying some new players with very high fees like rice, timber or even havertz from chelsea. I think that this strategy makes sense to be implemented.

Arsenal's squad now looks solid since their starting line up and bench players are strong. They have Nketiah and Trossard in attacking position, they have Xhaka, Jorginho and Partey in midfielder,they have Soraes, White, Gabriel and Kiwior in defense position.

It's interesting to see Kai will play in Arsenal, if he play in midfielder he must have good ball possession and accurate pass, I don't see that two skill when he was in Chelsea. But if Kai can't play in attacking midfielder, he can still play as false nine since Saka is good in finishing.

maybe they are better prepared for the title race with Arsenal's current squad. they have looked stronger in midfield, which will be good enough for them to build up their striker's goalscoring productivity.
I have a feeling Arsenal made an efficient signing this summer. they really need new players that they bring in according to their portion of the position.
I hope Arsenal start to be able to maintain the consistency of their game this season because City is still a strong team they have to beat.

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Quote from: asriloni on July 01, 2023, 09:39:13 PM

Arsenal was doing so many crazy things in the current transfer season. I meant arsenal has been buying some new players with very high fees like rice, timber or even havertz from chelsea. I think that this strategy makes sense to be implemented.

Arsenal's squad now looks solid since their starting line up and bench players are strong. They have Nketiah and Trossard in attacking position, they have Xhaka, Jorginho and Partey in midfielder,they have Soraes, White, Gabriel and Kiwior in defense position.

It's interesting to see Kai will play in Arsenal, if he play in midfielder he must have good ball possession and accurate pass, I don't see that two skill when he was in Chelsea. But if Kai can't play in attacking midfielder, he can still play as false nine since Saka is good in finishing.

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Arsenal was doing so many crazy things in the current transfer season. I meant arsenal has been buying some new players with very high fees like rice, timber or even havertz from chelsea. I think that this strategy makes sense to be implemented.

Havetz will be going back to old position. There will be lots of rotations that arsenal can use. Jorginho may not be used as starting line up. Timber was replacing white's position.

I have seen arteta used some strategies during last season.

4-3-3, 4-1-41 or even 4-2-3-1.

Arteta may also able to form a new strategy with new compositions. I think that kai and rice gave arteta so many options.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on July 01, 2023, 05:59:23 AM

Like avoiding such rumours Because despite Mbappe being offered so much money, he is only thinking of leaving PSG with the hope of winning the Champions League trophy and the Ballon d'Or, why would he sign for that money with a team like Liverpool who have not already qualified for the Champions League? The biggest and most likely of all the rumors is Mbappé's move to Real Madrid. If Mbappe does decide to switch clubs, he is most likely to join Real Madrid. And this possibility may be true. Also I don't think Mbappe can join Liverpool.

Winning big titles like Champions League and domestic titles at leagues which are bigger than Ligue 1 are Mbappe's targets. Especially Champions League which is a most wanted title with Mbappe and he knows that winning Champions League is a big achievement for his career even he already won World Cup 2018 with France. Additionally, winning Champions League will open a very big chance for Mbappe to win Ballon d'Or which he has never won in his career.

Though titles are important for Mbappe's consideration, we can not exclude that he also want to receive good salary. He deserves that and he will not join a club that pay him like $1M or $4M each season even he can win Champions League with them. Titles with a team, personal awards and high salary are all factors for Mbappe consideration about his next destination.

If talking about chance to win Champions League, Liverpool have less chance than Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on July 01, 2023, 05:50:23 AM

there are some Rumours in football i do not give attention, i will just view the headlines and pass. Liverpool bidding for Mbappe is not out of place, because every clubs need him in their team. but the possibility for mbappe to leave psg to Liverpool that is not playing champions league is very slim. Mbbappe can only leave Psg to Manchester united and Real madrid and not to any club that's not in champions league.

Arsenal are also interested in Mbappe, since Mbappe has not sign a new contract for Psg, every clubs are observing the situation kindly. one thing issure, mbappe will not be playing in psg next season if he do not extend his contract. by next year he will be free agent and they will lose more. Pgs has to be rational about the situation.

Like avoiding such rumours Because despite Mbappe being offered so much money, he is only thinking of leaving PSG with the hope of winning the Champions League trophy and the Ballon d'Or, why would he sign for that money with a team like Liverpool who have not already qualified for the Champions League? The biggest and most likely of all the rumors is Mbappé's move to Real Madrid. If Mbappe does decide to switch clubs, he is most likely to join Real Madrid. And this possibility may be true. Also I don't think Mbappe can join Liverpool.

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there are some Rumours in football i do not give attention, i will just view the headlines and pass. Liverpool bidding for Mbappe is not out of place, because every clubs need him in their team. but the possibility for mbappe to leave psg to Liverpool that is not playing champions league is very slim. Mbbappe can only leave Psg to Manchester united and Real madrid and not to any club that's not in champions league.

Arsenal are also interested in Mbappe, since Mbappe has not sign a new contract for Psg, every clubs are observing the situation kindly. one thing issure, mbappe will not be playing in psg next season if he do not extend his contract. by next year he will be free agent and they will lose more. Pgs has to be rational about the situation.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on July 01, 2023, 04:17:05 AM

Have you heard of the news about Liverpool's possible offer for Mbappe in the near future? It is said that Liverpool will offer 300 million euros for him. I think PSG would be really willing to sell him in case there is an offer like that. Because even though PSG have to pay a lot of money to Mbappe in case of selling him early they will still be in a serious profit.

It is much better than letting him go without a transfer fee surely. In this case I assume that Liverpool wouldn't be the only team to make the same offer. Real Madrid have been monitoring his situation for a long time. I would expect them to meet the demands of PSG and Mbappe both undoubtedly.

In this case I don't think Liverpool's chance would be higher to sign him.

If this is true, I don't believe PSG will have any further comments to make because this offer is very generous, exactly what PSG wants, and mbappe will be happy to accept such an offer. However, I do believe there will be some issues because PSG and mbappe have agreed to stay for another year. However, I believe where a significant sum of money is involved, everything will settle down, so it will be good to see mbappe in another team very soon.
Real Madrid will be quite disappointed by this because they were the first to express interest in Mbappé in recent years, and Liverpool came up to seize the opportunity from them by spending a lot of money. I believe this will set up a rivalry between real Madrid and Liverpool.

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Have you heard of the news about Liverpool's possible offer for Mbappe in the near future? It is said that Liverpool will offer 300 million euros for him. I think PSG would be really willing to sell him in case there is an offer like that. Because even though PSG have to pay a lot of money to Mbappe in case of selling him early they will still be in a serious profit.

It is much better than letting him go without a transfer fee surely. In this case I assume that Liverpool wouldn't be the only team to make the same offer. Real Madrid have been monitoring his situation for a long time. I would expect them to meet the demands of PSG and Mbappe both undoubtedly.

In this case I don't think Liverpool's chance would be higher to sign him.

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on June 28, 2023, 08:12:52 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on June 27, 2023, 09:16:11 PM

Why did Chelsea sell Kovacic to their rival?

The EPL is just a league where clubs do the unthinkable as the case of Chelsea selling Kovacic to City they're not even showing how it will affect them (like delaying the process to think about it) in the future and I can't say I know the reason why Chelsea sold one of their consistent midfielder to one of their threat in the EPL.
What about Havartz who was sold to Arsenal, this transfer window is still in a blur state where we can't see what happens next. I don't even see any replacement coming in the squad after Kovacic left and they're still acting comfortable, I hope it won't back fire, Chelsea are just selling anything they get their hands on.

When a club shows interest on a particular player and it becomes obviously clear that such player also wants to move to that club, it is best to allow the player leave.
If Chelsea decides not to let Kovacic leave the club now that he's very interested in going to Manchester City, the player would be very unhappy with the decision and would not passionately play for Chelsea again. So I think the club management was right to let him leave

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Quote from: blue Snow on June 27, 2023, 09:16:11 PM

Why did Chelsea sell Kovacic to their rival?

after Chelsea got a new coach there were a lot of irregularities in my mind because how could a Pochettino let go of the best player Chelsea has ever had while Kovacic's performance was not too disappointing in the previous season and what really made me unable to think was selling to a rival team, this like suicide. because of course Kovacic knows whatever strategy Chelsea has used so that Man City's chances of competing with Chelsea are bigger because City after getting Kovacic has become even stronger.
on the one hand if we think this is one of the strategies that Pochettino will use to sell old players and add new players, this is not the right way because it will definitely take a lot of time for new players to adapt to the surrounding environment and with other players.

I don't know if Chelsea in the summer will be better or even worse but I have a little doubt about Chelsea at the moment.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on June 26, 2023, 06:52:27 AM

The previous Premier League discussion thread is also still active, and @Trofo just hasn't changed the title to the 2023/24 season because the league ~~hasn't started yet~~. Now it has been updated

Won't this be a clash of two different threads because I'm both discussing the Premier League?

I was about to mention that too because the other premiere league thread is acting e and discussion is going on there, this thread and the old one will clash since the title of the old premiere leagues discussion thread has been changed to the current season of 2023-2024.

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Quote from: onecall123 on June 28, 2023, 07:34:52 AM

Quote from: jakdanyel on June 28, 2023, 03:35:39 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on June 27, 2023, 09:16:11 PM

Why did Chelsea sell Kovacic to their rival?

I was also surprised with this news honestly. Let's say Kovacic didn't have much playing time there then it would have made sense. However there was no such situation either. He has been a regular in Chelsea starting lineup for years. I would have said that it was maybe due to his performance. But it was a horrible season for Chelsea so everyone was inadequate in performance.

At least they shouldn't have sold him to a rival team in the same league. Manchester City have newly lost Gundogan and it didn't even take them a long time to fill his place. They have filled the place with a really solid midfielder like Kovacic. I don't know what Boehly is really planning to do with this.

Kovacic truly an unsung hero, such a magnificent midfield player. He did well at Chelsea, and his departure from the club will be deeply felt. It is indeed a mistake to let go of such a talented player. Kovacic's departure from Chelsea is undoubtedly a loss, but Chelsea fans can remain optimistic about the club's future. However, Chelsea fans can hope all will be fine. Boehly might have plans in place to build younger generation of players.
Kovacic's move to Man City definitely a perfect signing for them. After losing Gundogan, Kovacic can fill his position. Kovacic is undoubtedly a good player, but, Gundogan may possess a slight edge in terms of overall performance.

The Manchester City fans still think and hope Kovacic can replace Gundogan's position and performance, which I think will be problem pressure to Kovacic onwards on club. I hope he doesn't have stage fright next.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on June 26, 2023, 06:52:27 AM

The previous Premier League discussion thread is also still active, and @Trofo just hasn't changed the title to the 2023/24 season because the league ~~hasn't started yet~~. Now it has been updated

Won't this be a clash of two different threads because I'm both discussing the Premier League?

I don’t see anything bad in having multiple threads about premier league, even in the previous season there was two premier league threads and nobody complained about it. Actually the Op can decide to lock the thread but even if the thread is active, I don’t see anything bad in it, people will keep on using all the threads, and let’s wait maybe @Trofo is going to lock his own thread since the thread is too long already, maybe new thread can be created and let’s start next season afresh. But I will even recommend we even leave the thread, anybody can comment on any thread which they think they are convenient with.

I don’t know what you mean by if their will be clash between the two threads, how will the clash happen, anybody can choose to comment on the thread which they want and I don’t know how clash is going to happen.

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Quote from: blue Snow on June 27, 2023, 09:16:11 PM

Why did Chelsea sell Kovacic to their rival?

The EPL is just a league where clubs do the unthinkable as the case of Chelsea selling Kovacic to City they're not even showing how it will affect them (like delaying the process to think about it) in the future and I can't say I know the reason why Chelsea sold one of their consistent midfielder to one of their threat in the EPL.
What about Havartz who was sold to Arsenal, this transfer window is still in a blur state where we can't see what happens next. I don't even see any replacement coming in the squad after Kovacic left and they're still acting comfortable, I hope it won't back fire, Chelsea are just selling anything they get their hands on.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on June 28, 2023, 03:35:39 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on June 27, 2023, 09:16:11 PM

Why did Chelsea sell Kovacic to their rival?

I was also surprised with this news honestly. Let's say Kovacic didn't have much playing time there then it would have made sense. However there was no such situation either. He has been a regular in Chelsea starting lineup for years. I would have said that it was maybe due to his performance. But it was a horrible season for Chelsea so everyone was inadequate in performance.

At least they shouldn't have sold him to a rival team in the same league. Manchester City have newly lost Gundogan and it didn't even take them a long time to fill his place. They have filled the place with a really solid midfielder like Kovacic. I don't know what Boehly is really planning to do with this.

Kovacic truly an unsung hero, such a magnificent midfield player. He did well at Chelsea, and his departure from the club will be deeply felt. It is indeed a mistake to let go of such a talented player. Kovacic's departure from Chelsea is undoubtedly a loss, but Chelsea fans can remain optimistic about the club's future. However, Chelsea fans can hope all will be fine. Boehly might have plans in place to build younger generation of players.
Kovacic's move to Man City definitely a perfect signing for them. After losing Gundogan, Kovacic can fill his position. Kovacic is undoubtedly a good player, but, Gundogan may possess a slight edge in terms of overall performance.

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Quote from: blue Snow on June 27, 2023, 09:16:11 PM

Why did Chelsea sell Kovacic to their rival?

I was also surprised with this news honestly. Let's say Kovacic didn't have much playing time there then it would have made sense. However there was no such situation either. He has been a regular in Chelsea starting lineup for years. I would have said that it was maybe due to his performance. But it was a horrible season for Chelsea so everyone was inadequate in performance.

At least they shouldn't have sold him to a rival team in the same league. Manchester City have newly lost Gundogan and it didn't even take them a long time to fill his place. They have filled the place with a really solid midfielder like Kovacic. I don't know what Boehly is really planning to do with this.

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