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Arsenal have the opportunity to win the league when they beat Manchester City in the next match. This season Arsenal have experienced a much better increase than the previous few seasons, but Arteta still has a heavy burden to bring Arsenal to win the league because the two challengers behind it are a team that is also in good performance. So Arteta also experiences a lot of greater pressure to finish the match.

Our concern Arsenal is not able to complete the season with a perfect level of consistency so they will lose the moment in getting points in the upcoming matches that are far more difficult. If Arteta is able to pass this test, their chances of becoming champions will be even greater because they are in a good form of performance.
There are always reasons why some people doubt Arsenal will lead the standings and win the Premier League title at the end of the season, one of which is Arsenal do not yet have a good winning mentality in their squad. So far Arteta is still struggling to provide high experience to each of his players and at the same time the players will also learn to have a good mentality when under pressure.

We almost found that Arsenal failed to qualify for the quarter-finals of the Champions League when they were forced to draw by Porto for 120 minutes at the Emirates Stadium, but they were lucky to maximize their opportunity through a penalty shootout. Arteta and his squad are currently in good form, but they are still not the main favorites to win the Premier League title this season despite leading the standings. The match against Manchester City is a tough match, in fact I don't think Arsenal can win it without a high risk of losing.

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Arsenal's focus must be able to beat Manchester City if you want to get a chance to become a champion. Manchester City is also in good performance so that Arsenal will be much more difficult to beat them. If the game lasts more competitive, Arsenal must be able to draw so that Liverpool do not top the standings with a difference of three points in front of them.
If Arsenal wins against Manchester City, then Liverpool probably won't allow themselves to have a points gap with Arsenal. This means that Liverpool will also win the next match so that their points with Arsenal remain the same. But I don't imagine Arsenal can beat Manchester City, in fact Arsenal will most likely suffer defeat at the Etihad Stadium later.
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Klopp had his own intention different from Ten Hag intention so I see no reason blaming klopp, although Liverpool also had every chance of winning like Manchester united, let's not judge thinking only Manchester united had all the chance meanwhile Liverpool never used their opportunity right, Manchester united played excellent and I got surprised with their performance, I strongly believe ten hag played just little role in united success against Liverpool. Let's just accept the fact Liverpool tried their best but still it was not enough and stop blaming klopp.
Watching Manchester United eliminating Liverpool from the FA Cup quarterfinals really surprising in the eyes of everyone, Liverpool had the higher number of votes for winning but failed. Why points blaming fingers to Jurgen Klopp? He's not the faulty one because his players had the opportunities of netting goals but failed to deliver due to their incompetent performance. They're unable to reach the winning phase and got eliminated in the final minutes of extra time. Liverpool performance was strictly based on their outstanding form, they had the principles and possession required, what happen?
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Everyone also knows that Jurgen Klopp is better than Erik ten Hag and maybe his fans are exaggerating just because they managed to get rid of Liverpool in the FA Cup match. It must be admitted that this time Jurgen Kloop lost and I think that is a normal thing in football when the results are not as expected. But if you look back, there are quite a few contributions that Jurgen Kloop has made to Liverpool. As you said, winning the EPL is something Liverpool have longed for for so long and they can feel it again after Jurgen Kloop arrived at Anfield.

But not only that, the young squad that Jurgen Klopp has built in the past few years is also very special and has transformed into extraordinary players. I think his legacy will continue even if Jurgen Klopp leaves at the end of the season and I think Erik ten Hag has just started at Manchester United and still needs more time like Jurgen Kloop did for Liverpool.
Of course these two coaches cannot be compared because in terms of achievements of course Kloop is far superior because he has succeeded in bringing Liverpool several trophies. Indeed, Liverpool defeat in the FA Cup sparked various arguments and indeed the match was quite fierce with both teams buying and selling attacks. Of course, for Erik ten Hag, he has a chance to win a trophy this season and of course they have to maximize this opportunity well.

For Liverpool, they still have two chances to get a trophy and of course the fans disappointment can be alleviated if they are successful in the European league and in the Premier League. But for the Premier League, as we know, this season the competition is very strong and perhaps Liverpool steps to win the Premier League really have quite strong obstacles this season.
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Nottingham Forests have breached the PSR(Premier League's profit and sustainability rules) by £34.5 million and will face 4 points deduction this season and if they don't sell one of their star player this coming summer transfer, they'll likely lose more points.
Here's some explanation on the points deduction from the Premier league.


It seems interesting, because in this season not only Everton got a penalty about deducting points, previously Everton who got a deduction of 10 and after the appeal was accepted then Everton only got a deduction of 6 points. But about Nottingham only getting a deduction of 4 points, I think it is a low point deduction compared to Everton. But yes, although Nottingham only got a deduction of 4 points, but it is enough to make Nottingham in the relegation zone right now by having a gap of 1 point with Luton who is right above Nottingham's position right now.

Therefore, although Nottingham got a deduction of 4 points and is in the relegation zone at the moment, I think Nottingham still has a great chance to get out of the relegation zone. Because yes, basically I consider that Luton will not be able to take advantage of this good opportunity, because it seems that Nottingham still has a good ability to get good results compared to Luton.
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 After their recent defeat to Fulham at the Craven Cottage in the weekend, Ange Postecoglou has come under fire for his statement where he said that making the top four isn't a priority for the club if he hasnt got a team that is developed and successful. Martin O'Neil, former Aston Villa coach has criticized his statement believing that the Premier league is a place were most clubs are looking for an opportunity to showcase their prowess in not just the league, and as such getting to the top four spot is an avenue for that as it guarantees a chance to play in the champions league but for Ange to say that's not his goal, I think he'd need to rethink.
The football world is a place more invested in results than the process and this begs the question; is finishing in the top four not a prize worth having for a club like Tottenham?
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I agree with you that nobody is to be blame but though most persons are feeling that the bad performance of Liverpool was as a result of the changes Klopp made, so for me I think that's far from the reason why Liverpool performance was not that consistent and besides we know how Klopp pattern has been working for the club which has lead to there numerous wining and being on the position they are now, however one thing we most also no is that after a coach has established his pattern to the players to use, it will be left for the players to effect the strategy in other to win the match, so in terms of Liverpool on that match they failed to utilize it because Manchester United did not really give them the opportunity to and it got to a point where most Liverpool  player was no longer confident on themselves that's why on the first half they barely hold a ball without being intercepted by the Manchester United players.

The defeat to Manchester United meant that the team coached by Jurgen Klopp was eliminated from the FA Cup not because of poor performance, the tactics used by Erik Ten Hag were superior and were able to reduce the tactics used by Juergen Klopp. Erik Ten Hag became the first coach to achieve consecutive wins at Old Trafford against Klopp Liverpool. This winning record has not been achieved by any previous Manchester United coach since Klopp managed Liverpool. Erik Ten Hag has the opportunity to complete a hat trick of victory over Klopp if Manchester United succeeds in beating Liverpool again at Old Trafford in the Premier League next April.
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When the team does well, we give accolades to Klopp, but when it is the opposite, we start saying it is his fault. In that game, i would say the team were reluctant in the field, that is why the second goal from Manchester United came in. Klopp gave a good strategy of play to his boys; they tried it, and it worked in the second half.

Let us be sincere here, Klopp has done his best for this team. I know it is very painful that he lost in the game because, since he is going to leave Liverpool soon, he needs to win a trophy as a courtesy. Now the EPL league trophy is slowly slipping out of his hands. Manchester City and Arsenal are on it again.
And I'm not disputing that. Earlier I said in some games you lose some and win some and you can agree with me that Liverpool are another team who have been consistent in keeping good records, winning games both home and away and are a force but that doesn't mean they won't make mistakes or Jurgen Klopp isn't a mortal. For a team who is plagued with player injuries, it's a wise decision he took by withdrawing his key players so they can be able to fight a bigger battle in front of them. Man UTD have won the quarter finals and have moved on to the semi's but there's no telling if they can be able to get past that round so if Liverpool couldn't do the job, I guess someone else may do the job.
 I think Liverpool are more concerned at the moment with winning the premier league if possible or excelling in the Europa league so I doubt that being knocked out of the FA Cup competition is a big deal for Klopp because if we look at it, the Premier league title or Europa league title holds more prestige than the FA CUP TROPHY.
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It’s not even a debate, Klopp already has a title to his name this season so losing a match to Ten Hag doesn’t justify that Ten Hag is a better coach than Klopp. Ten Hag has achieved nothing for Manchester United since his arrival and he is barely making it to the top 4, he even got eliminated in the Champions League this season and they are having a very inconsistent performance this season which proves how terrible of job he is doing at United.

Klopp have achieved alot for Liverpool so far and it would be difficult for the club to forget all he has done for them, i think they are lucky to have him and he will be missed when he leaves the club. He has won a trophy already this season and he is currently challenging for the premier league title and also one of the favorites to win the Europa League title if all things goes well till the end of the season so there is no way you can compare both managers and decide that the winner of the tie between them is the better coach. Their performance as a coach should be judged based on the success achieved throughout the whole season.
Where are the ideas come from comparison between Jurgen Klopp with Erik ten Hag? I think its not related when comparison with the best manager Erik ten Hag after success eliminating Liverpool on FA Cup quarter final round. Did any remember how many trophies won by Erik ten Hag since becoming Manchester United manager last two season? become the first manager made Manchester United failed in Champion League group phase and this season get potential loss Champion League spot standings. I think the winning against Liverpool on FA Cup is not related comparison by looking current standings of Manchester United in Premier League.
No debate, Juergen Klopp have won Champion League and Premier League trophies is better than Erik ten Hag not winning any competitive trophies yet since become Manchester United manager.
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Arsenal is the only clubt hat will have hardest fixtures in the upcoming games and it makes me doubt if club will able to get perfect results in the upcoming games. In my opinio, if arsenal has been doing it very well by successfully farming three points from the mediocre clubs.
It's time for arsenal to get the real test from so many clubs. It will face united, city or even chelsea and totenham. This is not going to be a good fixture for Arsenal, considering the fact that if the club is still playing at UCL, it means Arsenal must also divide its focus. The club has been performing very well.
Liverpool and Manchester City have more advantages, and that's why I prefer to pick City as the winner of the EPL this season rather than Liverpool or Arsenal. Liverpool should be placed below Manchester City as my favorite to win the EPL this season. Arsenal must be in the last position.
Arsenal have the opportunity to win the league when they beat Manchester City in the next match. This season Arsenal have experienced a much better increase than the previous few seasons, but Arteta still has a heavy burden to bring Arsenal to win the league because the two challengers behind it are a team that is also in good performance. So Arteta also experiences a lot of greater pressure to finish the match.

Our concern Arsenal is not able to complete the season with a perfect level of consistency so they will lose the moment in getting points in the upcoming matches that are far more difficult. If Arteta is able to pass this test, their chances of becoming champions will be even greater because they are in a good form of performance.

This is going to be a very interesting match. Manchester City must not let Arsenal get three points, or it will have less chance to win the trophy this season. Arsenal is trying so hard to make sure the result from last season does not happen again soon.
The next match is going to be a hyped match considering Arsenal and Manchester City are in a very difficult situation. Another problem is that the club has not yet become the only club that will win the trophy.
Liverpool can potentially take over Arsenal and the City if its competitors get another draw.
Arsenal's focus must be able to beat Manchester City if you want to get a chance to become a champion. Manchester City is also in good performance so that Arsenal will be much more difficult to beat them. If the game lasts more competitive, Arsenal must be able to draw so that Liverpool do not top the standings with a difference of three points in front of them.
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Nottingham Forests have breached the PSR(Premier League's profit and sustainability rules) by £34.5 million and will face 4 points deduction this season and if they don't sell one of their star player this coming summer transfer, they'll likely lose more points.
Here's some explanation on the points deduction from the Premier league.
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Overall, IMO, Klopp is better than Ten Haag, we really can't judge MU success in winning the match against Liverpool as Ten Haag overall success in the EPL. However, in Liverpool history, Klopp has given Liverpool the important title they have always wanted, the EPL Trophy. Meanwhile, Ten Haag still hasn't been able to prove the effectiveness of his strategy in the EPL so far. I'm not saying Ten Haag is very bad, but it's not right to compare him with Klopp, who has been at Liverpool for several seasons. And we can't blame Klopp for losing results against MU, even Liverpool losing their 1st position.
It’s not even a debate, Klopp already has a title to his name this season so losing a match to Ten Hag doesn’t justify that Ten Hag is a better coach than Klopp. Ten Hag has achieved nothing for Manchester United since his arrival and he is barely making it to the top 4, he even got eliminated in the Champions League this season and they are having a very inconsistent performance this season which proves how terrible of job he is doing at United.

Klopp have achieved alot for Liverpool so far and it would be difficult for the club to forget all he has done for them, i think they are lucky to have him and he will be missed when he leaves the club. He has won a trophy already this season and he is currently challenging for the premier league title and also one of the favorites to win the Europa League title if all things goes well till the end of the season so there is no way you can compare both managers and decide that the winner of the tie between them is the better coach. Their performance as a coach should be judged based on the success achieved throughout the whole season.
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Sorry bro, football is not like that, in football if you are doing well, you will be praised and applauded for it, but when you are performing below par, you will be criticized, which to me is normal in the beautiful game of football, klopp killed the game for his team with wrong substitutions, but congrats to Manchester united for seizing the opportunity.

Concerning the title, I don't really think the title is slipping away from them, they are actually still in the mixed, and to me they even have a friendly fixture compared to their both counterpart, so to me it's Liverpool title to lose, they just have to keep on winning till the last day of the season.
However, don't criticize too much because Manchester United, who play on their own, of course have a large percentage of winning this match, so it wouldn't be a big surprise if Manchester United were able to win and advance to the semifinals.
In football anything can happen and what Klopp does is inseparable from the tactics he uses to improve the team's performance and no one knows what bad things might happen, I think that's quite natural.
Klopp had his own intention different from Ten Hag intention so I see no reason blaming klopp, although Liverpool also had every chance of winning like Manchester united, let's not judge thinking only Manchester united had all the chance meanwhile Liverpool never used their opportunity right, Manchester united played excellent and I got surprised with their performance, I strongly believe ten hag played just little role in united success against Liverpool. Let's just accept the fact Liverpool tried their best but still it was not enough and stop blaming klopp.
Yes, don't criticize Klopp too much. Although Klopp's substitutions at the last minute were less effective and actually became Liverpool's weak point. But in reality, Klopp is also just an ordinary human being who can definitely make mistakes. So if you just blame Klopp one-sidedly, I think that's very unfair. Because in essence the cause of Liverpool's defeat against Manchester United was not just Klopp's replacement of players. However, the stamina factor of Liverpool players also has a big influence. Because what I saw, in the first half and second half the performance of the Liverpool players was still very fit. However, during extra time, the Liverpool players looked very tired. Because from the perspective of attacks and ball control carried out by Liverpool players, have experienced a drastic decline. And Manchester United players can make good use of this.

So in my opinion the stamina factor was the biggest cause of Liverpool's defeat against Manchester United. Yes, of course this defeat should be used as a very important lesson for Liverpool players. Especially in terms of stamina, I think it needs to be increased again. And with this defeat Liverpool had to give up one trophy. But that's okay, there is still the UCL trophy that Liverpool can chase.
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the fight, Arsenal - Manchester for first place continue
Man city, Arsenal, Liverpool these 3 teams are doing a lot of work with the 1st position. Everyone's performance is always the same, so the points gap is not widening. Now both of them are going through a very tough time. Man City or Liverpool or Arsenal are going to be the champions. Many kinds of predictions are going on. but I am very excited about Man City. what do you think Can Man City be the champion?
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Overall, IMO, Klopp is better than Ten Haag, we really can't judge MU success in winning the match against Liverpool as Ten Haag overall success in the EPL. However, in Liverpool history, Klopp has given Liverpool the important title they have always wanted, the EPL Trophy. Meanwhile, Ten Haag still hasn't been able to prove the effectiveness of his strategy in the EPL so far. I'm not saying Ten Haag is very bad, but it's not right to compare him with Klopp, who has been at Liverpool for several seasons. And we can't blame Klopp for losing results against MU, even Liverpool losing their 1st position.

Yes it is evident, the person who says Ten Hag is successful maybe he is too fanatical.  Kloop has been Liverpool for almost 9 years and has plenty of winning evidence. So his coaching career I consider quite successful. As for Ten Hag, he hasn't given any evidence at Man United so he's not in good coaching at the moment. One game is not a measure of a coach's success. Even Kloop is one of the coaches that amazes me besides Guardiola.
True, and I've met some people who have said that if Ten Hag has been so successful as a United manager, it's very strange to hear that. Have they ever been aware of the accomplishments of ten hag with united? It was only able to win the Carabao Cup and no more. I would rather call Mourinho, who is a few steps ahead of him, Ten Hag. Ten hag is still far compared to the mourinho and i could not even understand why united sacked mourinho out from the club last seasons. The strange thing to remember is that people blamed Mourinho, and the results were not even worse than the ten hag. It's difficult to understand what metrics those people used to define Ten Hag as a successful coach. Ten Hag gave only the Carabao Cup, which is nothing in comparison to Mourinho's European Cup.
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Klopp had his own intention different from Ten Hag intention so I see no reason blaming klopp, although Liverpool also had every chance of winning like Manchester united, let's not judge thinking only Manchester united had all the chance meanwhile Liverpool never used their opportunity right, Manchester united played excellent and I got surprised with their performance, I strongly believe ten hag played just little role in united success against Liverpool. Let's just accept the fact Liverpool tried their best but still it was not enough and stop blaming klopp.

Overall, IMO, Klopp is better than Ten Haag, we really can't judge MU success in winning the match against Liverpool as Ten Haag overall success in the EPL. However, in Liverpool history, Klopp has given Liverpool the important title they have always wanted, the EPL Trophy. Meanwhile, Ten Haag still hasn't been able to prove the effectiveness of his strategy in the EPL so far. I'm not saying Ten Haag is very bad, but it's not right to compare him with Klopp, who has been at Liverpool for several seasons. And we can't blame Klopp for losing results against MU, even Liverpool losing their 1st position.

After all, Liverpool have won 1 trophy this season and that happened last month through Liverpool victory in the Carabao Cup. So, if in the FA Cup Liverpool fails to get the trophy then yes, basically it doesn't matter at all because after all, eventhough Manchester United managed to get rid of Liverpool in this FA Cup but yes, of course there is still no guarantee for Manchester United to get thetrophy. Also, even though Liverpool failed in the FA Cup, in reality Liverpool still has a big chance of getting trophies in the Premier League and also in the European League. Therefore, it is clear that Liverpool is still better than Manchester United, and that includes Klopp and Erik ten Hag, it is clear that Klopp has good and great qualities and achievements with Liverpool.
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The Blues are on the struggling side of the league and we never expected to see Chelsea in this kind of form with some talented players like Cole Palmer on the mix.
After making a move from Man City to the Bridge, Cole Palmer has been outstanding in every game he plays and he even scored against his former team. Is just one season with the lad making a difference helping the team (Chelsea) to be at it's best but with Chelsea trying to extend his contract I don't think is the right move because the EPL is a league that gives you the first season to be at your best and after that 1st season the player becomes a flop. To me I'd say the contract extension should wait and let's see him play come next campaign if he'll still do better than this current season, because as it is Cole is the best player of Chelsea this season.
A player like Haaland used last season to showcase himself and this season he (Haaland) is a shadow of himself, that's why to me I feel something of such might happen to Cole Palmer and Chelsea should let him try to be at his best next season, is kinda confusing if he really needs this contract extension or not.
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Based on the schedule they have, no team has an advantage because they both have busy schedules. You are right, they must be able to play as well as possible in the Premier League and also in the Champions League. With the performance of the two teams not being much different, it is certain that this will be a very interesting match, unless one of them experiences bad luck in this match.
Manchester City will act as hosts in the match, this is an advantage for them. However, Arsenal also came with a mission to win in this match, they also definitely don't want to lose which will take them away from competing for the title this season. You are right, for both Manchester City and Arsenal, this match will be a match of life and death, because whoever wins will be closer to the championship ladder, and whoever loses will be further away from the championship ladder. So there is no reason for them not to play all out in a very decisive match like this, they must not think about other things and must focus on the match.

In fact, Liverpool has an advantage this week because they will only host Brighton while Mancity have to face Arsenal.
And if Liverpool win, while Arsenal fail to win - then Liverpool will certainly lead the league again this week.
This weekend there was no matches available because next week it's FIFA Matches day and most of European National teams will playing for friendly matches or Euro 2024 qualifier however indeed Liverpool have to forgot their loses from Manchester United and focus for their upcoming matches because this is good chances for Liverpool because their opponent is just only Brighton which on the paper Liverpool should be able to win this match because Brighton on Premier League is unstable moreover Brighton is not in the good shape after eliminate by Roma at Europa League

But Liverpool shouldn't be underestimate Brighton because recently i have checked head to head statistics between them and Brighton can successfully to make Liverpool gets in trouble several times even since 2022 Liverpool was unable to win from Brighton so this is big challenge for Klopp to improved Liverpool records from Brighton but if Liverpool can performing well just like their showed in their previous matches i think Liverpool can collect 3 points from this match

About the match Manchester City vs Arsenal i have been post my thought about this match before although Arsenal recent performance in Premier League is very impressive but i highly doubt Arsenal can win from Manchester City this because Arsenal previous records which never win at Etihad Stadium makes me doubt Arsenal can overcomes Manchester City even my predictions is Manchester City who can being an the winner of this match
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There is no one to blame here and indeed luck was on Manchester United's side so they were able to win the match in the final minutes, I think the substitutions made by Klopp did not affect the team's performance in that match and in my opinion Liverpool's defeat was due to their bad luck and On the other hand, the Manchester United team played a little better even though they were not favorites in this match, but they managed to answer these doubts quite well.
This is a trophy that is possible for Manchester United to win this season, they are very close to the FA final this season because in the semifinals Man United will not meet a tough opponent.

I agree with you that nobody is to be blame but though most persons are feeling that the bad performance of Liverpool was as a result of the changes Klopp made, so for me I think that's far from the reason why Liverpool performance was not that consistent and besides we know how Klopp pattern has been working for the club which has lead to there numerous wining and being on the position they are now, however one thing we most also no is that after a coach has established his pattern to the players to use, it will be left for the players to effect the strategy in other to win the match, so in terms of Liverpool on that match they failed to utilize it because Manchester United did not really give them the opportunity to and it got to a point where most Liverpool  player was no longer confident on themselves that's why on the first half they barely hold a ball without being intercepted by the Manchester United players.

Man United, playing at home, is very confident and when they know there is an opportunity, they have a big chance of controlling the game. Liverpool didn't play badly but were at a disadvantage, their performance was just normal especially since both of them had a big target to advance to the semifinals. I admit that Man United performance at that time was quite good. The players mentality rose in the final minutes. So basically there is nothing that can really be used as a benchmark, Man United is clearly unlikely to get the EPL trophy this season because they are quite far apart from other clubs. Their opportunity now is the FA Cup and it is no wonder why Erik Ten Hag insists on getting 3 points in this match.

Don't forget that the Man United versus Liverpool match also applies to Man City who will play Chelsea. In fact, I suspect that Chelsea will appear more aggressive, in the EPL they have no chance, so Chelsea can only fight for the FA Cup this season. Man City must be careful because every time they meet Chelsea their game becomes unbalanced.
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