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Chelsea only mistake when losing to Nottingham Forest was due to poor finishing due to not being able to maximize the opportunities they had. Chelsea was able to dominate the match with ball possession reaching 73%, Chelsea was also able to make 21 attempts and several of them were on goal.
Luck has not been on Chelsea side, they had to suffer their second defeat this season after previously losing to West Ham. The injury storm also greatly affected Chelsea appearance, Pochettino had to lose several of his mainstay players which made him have to develop a strategy with several substitute players.

Chelsea has a complex issue regarding its performance rather than just being bad due to injuries to several players. I have to say that many of their new signings have not been fully adapted properly which in turn has not kept Chelsea in top form, so that is a cause Pochettino needs to fix immediately.

If Pochettino can do something better in the dressing room then I think Chelsea will be even better. I don't know if Pochettino is capable of doing it, but he is a pretty serious type of coach. Pochettino has to solve very basic problems, so he doesn't have to think that his playing strategy is not good. Of course I expected a better performance from Chelsea, but I admit Pochettino is still having difficulty making it happen.

Adaptation shouldn't be a big obstacle to find excuses for their failure at the start of this season. However, it seems that this backfired for Chelsea because their purchasing record did not match expectations with their performance at the start of this season. Chelsea is in 12th place in the standings and the difference in points with the top-ranked teams is 8 points, making their progress appear to be facing bigger obstacles this season.

Well, everyone thinks that Pochettino performance is not very satisfactory, especially after he sold many players in the transfer market and recruited several players who are currently still having difficulty adapting to the strategy he is implementing. So their performance doesn't seem to have changed from their game last season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 04, 2023, 11:50:05 AM

Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance. Jackson is really unreliable player right now. He just doesn't have good finishing skills as he wastes so many goal opportunities.

The spending is not that surprising because we all know how the owner wants to make a difference, I'll say is like a competition between the current owner and the previous owner. Well that's not going to help a team that's having a bad time on the pitch, I mean the spending won't help.
Talking about Jackson, he's a good player that wants to prove himself to both the club and the fans. Chelsea is a club that's desperate to be at the top and much expectations will come in play, I feel most of the players are playing under pressure and Jackson seems to be one of them. I believe with time when the help he needs comes all these missed chances would be a thing of the past, someone like Nkunku need to be among the 1st eleven to help out.

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There is a lot of time to go for Nkunku to recover so I wish Chelsea signed another striker as well. Some players were rumoured but there was no deal at the end. I just hope them to improve this form as much as possible until Nkunku returns. After that things can get better hopefully.

Nkunku on the other hand is not coming back too soon and I believe Chelsea have players who can fill in that missing space like someone to play that attacking position while Jackson as the main man play from the wing. But my question is, why is Pochettino acting like the past coaches? Why drop someone like Mudryk? To me I believe that guy (Mudryk) can make a difference, his force and that of Sterling can even boost the morela of Jackson, so they can work things out before the return of Nkunku.

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Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance. Jackson is really unreliable player right now. He just doesn't have good finishing skills as he wastes so many goal opportunities.

There sure was a lot of hope from fans In the performance of Chelsea this season. I thought with the new season, things would finally turn around for them and they would actually compete with Manchester City and Arsenal for the title. Admittedly, the season is still quite young and thy have a lot of games to prove themselves; their performance so far haven’t been particularly impressive.

I thought Chelsea would, with some ease win the game with Nottingham Forest but it wasn’t so. They were actually in total control of the game but had a hard time getting good shots on target. After the goal, I still felt a bit confident that they could first equalize and perhaps feel motivated enough to score another to win the game.

The massive investment made by Chelsea is not in line with the results on the field, this is of course very disappointing for many parties and perhaps the club owner himself, Todd Boehly, is very angry to see such conditions. But there is no other choice for Chelsea's management other than to be patient with the team's progress. Firing Pochettino at this time is certainly not a good choice, but if conditions do not change in the next few matches, Todd will have an increasingly dilemmatic dilemma.

It's hard to believe when Chelsea failed to achieve positive results against a team whose quality was lower than theirs, but the morale of the Blues players was so bad that they even seemed to have no motivation to win the match. I'm increasingly not sure that Chelsea will be able to finish in the top six of the standings because they have wasted a lot of points even though the EPL has only been going on for a few weeks.

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Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance.

Quite a lot of football fans erroneously believe that spending a lot of money is the only prerequisite to success, i hope they can learn from Chelsea's situation that it is not so, of course spending money is important, but you have to get the right players, and not only that, the club must be managed in the right way, from both the manager and those at the club hierarchy.

Chelsea look like a disorganized club ever since Abramovich left, the new owners right now don't understand a thing about football and i'm afraid i don't see Chelsea's position improving anytime soon, they are about to have another bad season.

I very much agree with you bud, its just the same thing as in business, there are many who believe that having a lot of money invested in a business is a possible guarantee that such business will do really well/succeed, they put aside the importance of business management and every other thing that patterns to that..

Investing a lot of money in a club does not guarantee success just as you have said, a club can have the best of players, but if the management of such club is absolute shit, that club will still end up underperforming, same way that one can hire the best sales person to attend to customers coming to patronize his or her business, but if the manager of that business knows nothing about capital and profit, and how to balance this two to make sure he or she has a clear record of how much the business made as profit at the end of everyday, then such business will still suffer and possibly collapse regardless of how much was invested in it.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 04, 2023, 11:50:05 AM

Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance. Jackson is really unreliable player right now. He just doesn't have good finishing skills as he wastes so many goal opportunities.

I can still see that many people were keep saying give em all more time. They will deliver but the question is how long chelsea players will deliver what is already expected by the fans? The last season has proven that if the team performing so badly.
Do the fans need to be patience even longer and waiting those players play like shit in any game? Pochettino is responsible for this caused by he was the one won did potter ball in the club by exchanging player's position.

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There is a lot of time to go for Nkunku to recover so I wish Chelsea signed another striker as well. Some players were rumoured but there was no deal at the end. I just hope them to improve this form as much as possible until Nkunku returns. After that things can get better hopefully.

He needs at least more than a half of this season to recover. Don't put a lot of hope toward him. Nkuku was facing serious injury. He may perform at the end of the season. The club can't keep loose points until nkuku will be recover or chelsea will be relegated.
Will we see this club is trying to defend its position not to be relegated this season? Even nottingham forest played better than chelsea at SB.

Pochettino shall have changed its strategy. It's boring to see how he keeps use the same shit again and again. The fans may lose their patients soon.
Pochettino will be going to be the next potter.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 04, 2023, 11:50:05 AM

Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance. Jackson is really unreliable player right now. He just doesn't have good finishing skills as he wastes so many goal opportunities.

There sure was a lot of hope from fans In the performance of Chelsea this season. I thought with the new season, things would finally turn around for them and they would actually compete with Manchester City and Arsenal for the title. Admittedly, the season is still quite young and thy have a lot of games to prove themselves; their performance so far haven’t been particularly impressive.

I thought Chelsea would, with some ease win the game with Nottingham Forest but it wasn’t so. They were actually in total control of the game but had a hard time getting good shots on target. After the goal, I still felt a bit confident that they could first equalize and perhaps feel motivated enough to score another to win the game.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 04, 2023, 11:50:05 AM

Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance.

Quite a lot of football fans erroneously believe that spending a lot of money is the only prerequisite to success, i hope they can learn from Chelsea's situation that it is not so, of course spending money is important, but you have to get the right players, and not only that, the club must be managed in the right way, from both the manager and those at the club hierarchy.

Chelsea look like a disorganized club ever since Abramovich left, the new owners right now don't understand a thing about football and i'm afraid i don't see Chelsea's position improving anytime soon, they are about to have another bad season.

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[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.

What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.

I'm just curious because quite a lot of people are discussing the VAR result and if it was offside then it was the right decision to annul the goal. I do not side with any team and all decisions remain in the hands of the referee. It seems like you are too hasty to define other people's opinions and when everything is clear there should be no need for too serious a debate. Well, whatever it is, Arsenal has done their job well and for Manchester United they have to try even harder so they can win the next match.

Just follow what decision has already been taken by VAR team and referee. Even though if it was not offside and it has already happened, you can't roll it back again. It's a common thing when see the loser say nay but the winner said yay to the decision taken by the referee and var team. Blaming the decision from the referee will be only wasting its time. The better thing for MU is to fix the problem owned by the club like trying to take care of its defender. The second goal comes from the defender's mistake.

Just let it flow. MU must try to prepare itself for the upcoming match. keep debating about VAR is pretty much useless at this moment.

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Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance. Jackson is really unreliable player right now. He just doesn't have good finishing skills as he wastes so many goal opportunities.

There is a lot of time to go for Nkunku to recover so I wish Chelsea signed another striker as well. Some players were rumoured but there was no deal at the end. I just hope them to improve this form as much as possible until Nkunku returns. After that things can get better hopefully.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 04, 2023, 10:41:47 AM

Liverpool continued to get positive results after the first match against Chelsea they only won a draw, but the rest of the match they could win consecutive wins. This is a breath of fresh air for them after last season appearing inconsistent and having to try hard to be able to slowly increase their ranking in the standings. But this season the change looks real and the results they can also feel with 10 points they managed to collect from the initial 4 matches. Finally we see something different from them, where something that was missing from them last season is now slowly returning.

There is a possibility that Liverpool needs adaptation from the whole team which is why there was no consistency last season, but Liverpool can run well and improve it well this season, they take advantage of the moments in every match because points are more important than defeats, because of that will be detrimental to Liverpool at the end of the season, maybe we know that Liverpool had crawled at the end of the season to climb into the European zone, so that's why Liverpool doesn't want that to happen again..

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Chelsea only mistake when losing to Nottingham Forest was due to poor finishing due to not being able to maximize the opportunities they had. Chelsea was able to dominate the match with ball possession reaching 73%, Chelsea was also able to make 21 attempts and several of them were on goal.
Luck has not been on Chelsea side, they had to suffer their second defeat this season after previously losing to West Ham. The injury storm also greatly affected Chelsea appearance, Pochettino had to lose several of his mainstay players which made him have to develop a strategy with several substitute players.

Chelsea has a complex issue regarding its performance rather than just being bad due to injuries to several players. I have to say that many of their new signings have not been fully adapted properly which in turn has not kept Chelsea in top form, so that is a cause Pochettino needs to fix immediately.

If Pochettino can do something better in the dressing room then I think Chelsea will be even better. I don't know if Pochettino is capable of doing it, but he is a pretty serious type of coach. Pochettino has to solve very basic problems, so he doesn't have to think that his playing strategy is not good. Of course I expected a better performance from Chelsea, but I admit Pochettino is still having difficulty making it happen.

Chelsea has been very inconsistent with their performance this season and Saturday's defeat to Nottingham Forest further highlights the teams poor form under current manager Mauricio Pochettino. After their performance against Liverpool in their opening English Premier League match of the season, most fans of the club had thought the club has improved from their disappointing campaign last season it's now clear that they're far from improvement.
Mauricio Pochettino must find a playing pattern that'll work for his earn if he wants to remain as the manager of the club or risk being dismissed.

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Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.

Yes.... although I have to say it's hardly any change. Grin

Chelsea is still plagued by many injuries so it may be difficult for Pochettino to simulate his game, the game is still quite unstable and not to say completely consistent, but everything must change if their squad is back to normal without any injured players.

Robert Sanchez is not worse, but it is the weak defense that makes many goals to Chelsea. Cheesy

Chelsea only mistake when losing to Nottingham Forest was due to poor finishing due to not being able to maximize the opportunities they had. Chelsea was able to dominate the match with ball possession reaching 73%, Chelsea was also able to make 21 attempts and several of them were on goal.
Luck has not been on Chelsea side, they had to suffer their second defeat this season after previously losing to West Ham. The injury storm also greatly affected Chelsea appearance, Pochettino had to lose several of his mainstay players which made him have to develop a strategy with several substitute players.

yes I agree with you, even though they have high ball possession and try 21 times, but if the final finish is not good then it is difficult to score.
Is Chelsea out of luck? but I think it's not just bad luck, the number of injured players and previous losses and the pressure to win can also affect the team's performance. Psychological factors such as self-confidence and motivation also have an important role in the outcome of the game. making Chelsea currently unable to win

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Chelsea only mistake when losing to Nottingham Forest was due to poor finishing due to not being able to maximize the opportunities they had. Chelsea was able to dominate the match with ball possession reaching 73%, Chelsea was also able to make 21 attempts and several of them were on goal.
Luck has not been on Chelsea side, they had to suffer their second defeat this season after previously losing to West Ham. The injury storm also greatly affected Chelsea appearance, Pochettino had to lose several of his mainstay players which made him have to develop a strategy with several substitute players.

Chelsea has a complex issue regarding its performance rather than just being bad due to injuries to several players. I have to say that many of their new signings have not been fully adapted properly which in turn has not kept Chelsea in top form, so that is a cause Pochettino needs to fix immediately.

If Pochettino can do something better in the dressing room then I think Chelsea will be even better. I don't know if Pochettino is capable of doing it, but he is a pretty serious type of coach. Pochettino has to solve very basic problems, so he doesn't have to think that his playing strategy is not good. Of course I expected a better performance from Chelsea, but I admit Pochettino is still having difficulty making it happen.

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The most surprising aspect is that when Chelsea has a chance to score, the players will play the ball out and some can't play it in a normal way. It would be better if Chelsea didn't even sign any players this season because I can see that the players they used last season are even better than this season's own; all of the players are young players and I still don't even understand their performance; I don't think Chelsea will make a good position this season.

Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.

Agree with you, Chelsea management decision to loan Kepa to Real Madrid was ridiculous. I think the Blues also lack a playmaker in midfield, who can set the tempo of the game like Frank Lampard in the past. My prediction is that if Chelsea cannot recover in the next three matches in the EPL, we can be sure that Pochettino squad will finish outside the UCL zone.

There are lots of sharp comments criticizing Pochettino tactical qualities, but I think it's normal because he's spending a lot of budget and hasn't been able to bring Chelsea to a winning path.

I really didn't expect that with the series of bad results achieved by Chelsea, so far the Blues have only been able to get full points when they met promoted team Luton Town. Conditions like this clearly don't make sense because judging from the investment made by Chelsea they shouldn't have messed up like that. Now that Pochettino is starting to feel the pressure, he has time to evaluate his team during the international break. But if conditions do not improve then Pochettino's fate will soon be determined if it is not difficult for Chelsea to finish in the top five of the standings.

The decision to loan Kepa was definitely a blunder, it's really regrettable but he seems to have made a deep thought about it. But I think it's too much if that's the only problem, because Chelsea's real problem is on the management side. So Todd Boehly should detect the main causes including transfer policies.

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Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.

Yes.... although I have to say it's hardly any change. Grin

Chelsea is still plagued by many injuries so it may be difficult for Pochettino to simulate his game, the game is still quite unstable and not to say completely consistent, but everything must change if their squad is back to normal without any injured players.

Robert Sanchez is not worse, but it is the weak defense that makes many goals to Chelsea. Cheesy

Chelsea only mistake when losing to Nottingham Forest was due to poor finishing due to not being able to maximize the opportunities they had. Chelsea was able to dominate the match with ball possession reaching 73%, Chelsea was also able to make 21 attempts and several of them were on goal.
Luck has not been on Chelsea side, they had to suffer their second defeat this season after previously losing to West Ham. The injury storm also greatly affected Chelsea appearance, Pochettino had to lose several of his mainstay players which made him have to develop a strategy with several substitute players.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 04, 2023, 10:41:47 AM

Liverpool continued to get positive results after the first match against Chelsea they only won a draw, but the rest of the match they could win consecutive wins. This is a breath of fresh air for them after last season appearing inconsistent and having to try hard to be able to slowly increase their ranking in the standings. But this season the change looks real and the results they can also feel with 10 points they managed to collect from the initial 4 matches. Finally we see something different from them, where something that was missing from them last season is now slowly returning.

I hope Liverpool can win with more goals, especially since they have led 2-0 since the first half, but in the second half they only managed to score 1 goal, and in my opinion, the number of goals will be very important later because of the current standings points are quite tight, it's still too early because everything can change including a team that has won in a row finally starts to experience a decline and achieves bad results, seeing what Liverpool is currently achieving is quite encouraging there are changes and hopefully there will be no player injuries that will interfere with performance them until the end of the season.

Apart from Liverpool, Tottenham is a team that is performing quite impressively at the moment. It is very doubtful that Ange Postecoglou can bring this team to perform well, but so far he has been quite successful in making Tottenham one of the good teams. Song Heun Min managed to score a hat trick for his team, and the victory over Burnley was quite convincing with a fairly big goal margin.

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[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.

What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.

I'm just curious because quite a lot of people are discussing the VAR result and if it was offside then it was the right decision to annul the goal. I do not side with any team and all decisions remain in the hands of the referee. It seems like you are too hasty to define other people's opinions and when everything is clear there should be no need for too serious a debate.

Your reasoning behind your doubt on the accuracy of VAR didn't make any sense so I had to ask. It seems you just went along with other people's emotional response and wild speculation as to why it was disallowed. Hyphen(-) perfectly said it that they saw it through an emotional lens.

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It seems that Garnacho goal was disputed again by Ten Hag in front of the media. But it sounded like he wasn't admitting defeat.

He badly wanted to win so that response is quite expected of him. He probably has a different opinion now when asked off camera.

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Liverpool continued to get positive results after the first match against Chelsea they only won a draw, but the rest of the match they could win consecutive wins. This is a breath of fresh air for them after last season appearing inconsistent and having to try hard to be able to slowly increase their ranking in the standings. But this season the change looks real and the results they can also feel with 10 points they managed to collect from the initial 4 matches. Finally we see something different from them, where something that was missing from them last season is now slowly returning.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on September 04, 2023, 09:18:24 AM

Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.

Yes.... although I have to say it's hardly any change. Grin

Chelsea is still plagued by many injuries so it may be difficult for Pochettino to simulate his game, the game is still quite unstable and not to say completely consistent, but everything must change if their squad is back to normal without any injured players.

Robert Sanchez is not worse, but it is the weak defense that makes many goals to Chelsea. Cheesy

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Anything can happen during a match and sometimes some of the referee's decisions will not be in your favor. The fans complained, the coaches complained, and so did the gamblers who felt they deserved to win their bets. Things like that happen often and are quite disappointing, that's what Ten Hag said after the match even though he felt his team had done their best.

Yes, this will clearly not be beneficial for Manchester United who feel at a disadvantage with VAR because they will claim it was not offside but the referee and VAR assistant have given a decision with analysis that it is offside, especially if the goal occurs it will be Manchester United's win, but the facts different. Tongue

This often happens in football matches, not only is this the only controversial incident, but several others have also experienced the same thing, just accept the referee's decision and that is the final decision.

Obviously Manchester United bettors will be disappointed. Grin

It suprises how people risk betting in such kind of match, because it's one that involves two big teams and is expected to be very tough, in matches like this I know right that there would be too many goals because if you check their previous meetings they always have 3 to goals in the matches so to be on a safer side I expect people to bet over 1.5 goals, which has always worked I'm their past 3 meetings even in the preseason.
In my opinion, to be honest I think the Var robbed Manchester united of the game and that call wrong because it was clearly not an offside and if the goal was given the game would had been in favour of united cause the would had blocked their defence line instead of coming out to score an equalizer anyways the decision is being made an there's nothing anyone can do about it, Manchester United are left with no choice but to accept defeat and work on performing better on their next match which I feel would be very tough cause they're facing Brighton.

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