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Quote from: rendravolt on September 04, 2023, 07:34:11 AM

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[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.

What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.

I'm just curious because quite a lot of people are discussing the VAR result and if it was offside then it was the right decision to annul the goal. I do not side with any team and all decisions remain in the hands of the referee. It seems like you are too hasty to define other people's opinions and when everything is clear there should be no need for too serious a debate. Well, whatever it is, Arsenal has done their job well and for Manchester United they have to try even harder so they can win the next match.

Just follow what decision has already been taken by VAR team and referee. Even though if it was not offside and it has already happened, you can't roll it back again. It's a common thing when see the loser say nay but the winner said yay to the decision taken by the referee and var team. Blaming the decision from the referee will be only wasting its time. The better thing for MU is to fix the problem owned by the club like trying to take care of its defender. The second goal comes from the defender's mistake.

Just let it flow. MU must try to prepare itself for the upcoming match. keep debating about VAR is pretty much useless at this moment.

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Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance. Jackson is really unreliable player right now. He just doesn't have good finishing skills as he wastes so many goal opportunities.

There is a lot of time to go for Nkunku to recover so I wish Chelsea signed another striker as well. Some players were rumoured but there was no deal at the end. I just hope them to improve this form as much as possible until Nkunku returns. After that things can get better hopefully.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 04, 2023, 09:41:47 AM

Liverpool continued to get positive results after the first match against Chelsea they only won a draw, but the rest of the match they could win consecutive wins. This is a breath of fresh air for them after last season appearing inconsistent and having to try hard to be able to slowly increase their ranking in the standings. But this season the change looks real and the results they can also feel with 10 points they managed to collect from the initial 4 matches. Finally we see something different from them, where something that was missing from them last season is now slowly returning.

There is a possibility that Liverpool needs adaptation from the whole team which is why there was no consistency last season, but Liverpool can run well and improve it well this season, they take advantage of the moments in every match because points are more important than defeats, because of that will be detrimental to Liverpool at the end of the season, maybe we know that Liverpool had crawled at the end of the season to climb into the European zone, so that's why Liverpool doesn't want that to happen again..

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Chelsea only mistake when losing to Nottingham Forest was due to poor finishing due to not being able to maximize the opportunities they had. Chelsea was able to dominate the match with ball possession reaching 73%, Chelsea was also able to make 21 attempts and several of them were on goal.
Luck has not been on Chelsea side, they had to suffer their second defeat this season after previously losing to West Ham. The injury storm also greatly affected Chelsea appearance, Pochettino had to lose several of his mainstay players which made him have to develop a strategy with several substitute players.

Chelsea has a complex issue regarding its performance rather than just being bad due to injuries to several players. I have to say that many of their new signings have not been fully adapted properly which in turn has not kept Chelsea in top form, so that is a cause Pochettino needs to fix immediately.

If Pochettino can do something better in the dressing room then I think Chelsea will be even better. I don't know if Pochettino is capable of doing it, but he is a pretty serious type of coach. Pochettino has to solve very basic problems, so he doesn't have to think that his playing strategy is not good. Of course I expected a better performance from Chelsea, but I admit Pochettino is still having difficulty making it happen.

Chelsea has been very inconsistent with their performance this season and Saturday's defeat to Nottingham Forest further highlights the teams poor form under current manager Mauricio Pochettino. After their performance against Liverpool in their opening English Premier League match of the season, most fans of the club had thought the club has improved from their disappointing campaign last season it's now clear that they're far from improvement.
Mauricio Pochettino must find a playing pattern that'll work for his earn if he wants to remain as the manager of the club or risk being dismissed.

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Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.

Yes.... although I have to say it's hardly any change. Grin

Chelsea is still plagued by many injuries so it may be difficult for Pochettino to simulate his game, the game is still quite unstable and not to say completely consistent, but everything must change if their squad is back to normal without any injured players.

Robert Sanchez is not worse, but it is the weak defense that makes many goals to Chelsea. Cheesy

Chelsea only mistake when losing to Nottingham Forest was due to poor finishing due to not being able to maximize the opportunities they had. Chelsea was able to dominate the match with ball possession reaching 73%, Chelsea was also able to make 21 attempts and several of them were on goal.
Luck has not been on Chelsea side, they had to suffer their second defeat this season after previously losing to West Ham. The injury storm also greatly affected Chelsea appearance, Pochettino had to lose several of his mainstay players which made him have to develop a strategy with several substitute players.

yes I agree with you, even though they have high ball possession and try 21 times, but if the final finish is not good then it is difficult to score.
Is Chelsea out of luck? but I think it's not just bad luck, the number of injured players and previous losses and the pressure to win can also affect the team's performance. Psychological factors such as self-confidence and motivation also have an important role in the outcome of the game. making Chelsea currently unable to win

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Chelsea only mistake when losing to Nottingham Forest was due to poor finishing due to not being able to maximize the opportunities they had. Chelsea was able to dominate the match with ball possession reaching 73%, Chelsea was also able to make 21 attempts and several of them were on goal.
Luck has not been on Chelsea side, they had to suffer their second defeat this season after previously losing to West Ham. The injury storm also greatly affected Chelsea appearance, Pochettino had to lose several of his mainstay players which made him have to develop a strategy with several substitute players.

Chelsea has a complex issue regarding its performance rather than just being bad due to injuries to several players. I have to say that many of their new signings have not been fully adapted properly which in turn has not kept Chelsea in top form, so that is a cause Pochettino needs to fix immediately.

If Pochettino can do something better in the dressing room then I think Chelsea will be even better. I don't know if Pochettino is capable of doing it, but he is a pretty serious type of coach. Pochettino has to solve very basic problems, so he doesn't have to think that his playing strategy is not good. Of course I expected a better performance from Chelsea, but I admit Pochettino is still having difficulty making it happen.

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The most surprising aspect is that when Chelsea has a chance to score, the players will play the ball out and some can't play it in a normal way. It would be better if Chelsea didn't even sign any players this season because I can see that the players they used last season are even better than this season's own; all of the players are young players and I still don't even understand their performance; I don't think Chelsea will make a good position this season.

Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.

Agree with you, Chelsea management decision to loan Kepa to Real Madrid was ridiculous. I think the Blues also lack a playmaker in midfield, who can set the tempo of the game like Frank Lampard in the past. My prediction is that if Chelsea cannot recover in the next three matches in the EPL, we can be sure that Pochettino squad will finish outside the UCL zone.

There are lots of sharp comments criticizing Pochettino tactical qualities, but I think it's normal because he's spending a lot of budget and hasn't been able to bring Chelsea to a winning path.

I really didn't expect that with the series of bad results achieved by Chelsea, so far the Blues have only been able to get full points when they met promoted team Luton Town. Conditions like this clearly don't make sense because judging from the investment made by Chelsea they shouldn't have messed up like that. Now that Pochettino is starting to feel the pressure, he has time to evaluate his team during the international break. But if conditions do not improve then Pochettino's fate will soon be determined if it is not difficult for Chelsea to finish in the top five of the standings.

The decision to loan Kepa was definitely a blunder, it's really regrettable but he seems to have made a deep thought about it. But I think it's too much if that's the only problem, because Chelsea's real problem is on the management side. So Todd Boehly should detect the main causes including transfer policies.

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Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.

Yes.... although I have to say it's hardly any change. Grin

Chelsea is still plagued by many injuries so it may be difficult for Pochettino to simulate his game, the game is still quite unstable and not to say completely consistent, but everything must change if their squad is back to normal without any injured players.

Robert Sanchez is not worse, but it is the weak defense that makes many goals to Chelsea. Cheesy

Chelsea only mistake when losing to Nottingham Forest was due to poor finishing due to not being able to maximize the opportunities they had. Chelsea was able to dominate the match with ball possession reaching 73%, Chelsea was also able to make 21 attempts and several of them were on goal.
Luck has not been on Chelsea side, they had to suffer their second defeat this season after previously losing to West Ham. The injury storm also greatly affected Chelsea appearance, Pochettino had to lose several of his mainstay players which made him have to develop a strategy with several substitute players.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 04, 2023, 09:41:47 AM

Liverpool continued to get positive results after the first match against Chelsea they only won a draw, but the rest of the match they could win consecutive wins. This is a breath of fresh air for them after last season appearing inconsistent and having to try hard to be able to slowly increase their ranking in the standings. But this season the change looks real and the results they can also feel with 10 points they managed to collect from the initial 4 matches. Finally we see something different from them, where something that was missing from them last season is now slowly returning.

I hope Liverpool can win with more goals, especially since they have led 2-0 since the first half, but in the second half they only managed to score 1 goal, and in my opinion, the number of goals will be very important later because of the current standings points are quite tight, it's still too early because everything can change including a team that has won in a row finally starts to experience a decline and achieves bad results, seeing what Liverpool is currently achieving is quite encouraging there are changes and hopefully there will be no player injuries that will interfere with performance them until the end of the season.

Apart from Liverpool, Tottenham is a team that is performing quite impressively at the moment. It is very doubtful that Ange Postecoglou can bring this team to perform well, but so far he has been quite successful in making Tottenham one of the good teams. Song Heun Min managed to score a hat trick for his team, and the victory over Burnley was quite convincing with a fairly big goal margin.

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[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.

What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.

I'm just curious because quite a lot of people are discussing the VAR result and if it was offside then it was the right decision to annul the goal. I do not side with any team and all decisions remain in the hands of the referee. It seems like you are too hasty to define other people's opinions and when everything is clear there should be no need for too serious a debate.

Your reasoning behind your doubt on the accuracy of VAR didn't make any sense so I had to ask. It seems you just went along with other people's emotional response and wild speculation as to why it was disallowed. Hyphen(-) perfectly said it that they saw it through an emotional lens.

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It seems that Garnacho goal was disputed again by Ten Hag in front of the media. But it sounded like he wasn't admitting defeat.

He badly wanted to win so that response is quite expected of him. He probably has a different opinion now when asked off camera.

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Liverpool continued to get positive results after the first match against Chelsea they only won a draw, but the rest of the match they could win consecutive wins. This is a breath of fresh air for them after last season appearing inconsistent and having to try hard to be able to slowly increase their ranking in the standings. But this season the change looks real and the results they can also feel with 10 points they managed to collect from the initial 4 matches. Finally we see something different from them, where something that was missing from them last season is now slowly returning.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on September 04, 2023, 08:18:24 AM

Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.

Yes.... although I have to say it's hardly any change. Grin

Chelsea is still plagued by many injuries so it may be difficult for Pochettino to simulate his game, the game is still quite unstable and not to say completely consistent, but everything must change if their squad is back to normal without any injured players.

Robert Sanchez is not worse, but it is the weak defense that makes many goals to Chelsea. Cheesy

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Anything can happen during a match and sometimes some of the referee's decisions will not be in your favor. The fans complained, the coaches complained, and so did the gamblers who felt they deserved to win their bets. Things like that happen often and are quite disappointing, that's what Ten Hag said after the match even though he felt his team had done their best.

Yes, this will clearly not be beneficial for Manchester United who feel at a disadvantage with VAR because they will claim it was not offside but the referee and VAR assistant have given a decision with analysis that it is offside, especially if the goal occurs it will be Manchester United's win, but the facts different. Tongue

This often happens in football matches, not only is this the only controversial incident, but several others have also experienced the same thing, just accept the referee's decision and that is the final decision.

Obviously Manchester United bettors will be disappointed. Grin

It suprises how people risk betting in such kind of match, because it's one that involves two big teams and is expected to be very tough, in matches like this I know right that there would be too many goals because if you check their previous meetings they always have 3 to goals in the matches so to be on a safer side I expect people to bet over 1.5 goals, which has always worked I'm their past 3 meetings even in the preseason.
In my opinion, to be honest I think the Var robbed Manchester united of the game and that call wrong because it was clearly not an offside and if the goal was given the game would had been in favour of united cause the would had blocked their defence line instead of coming out to score an equalizer anyways the decision is being made an there's nothing anyone can do about it, Manchester United are left with no choice but to accept defeat and work on performing better on their next match which I feel would be very tough cause they're facing Brighton.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on September 04, 2023, 08:18:24 AM

Quote from: HajiBagi on September 04, 2023, 07:38:04 AM

The most surprising aspect is that when Chelsea has a chance to score, the players will play the ball out and some can't play it in a normal way. It would be better if Chelsea didn't even sign any players this season because I can see that the players they used last season are even better than this season's own; all of the players are young players and I still don't even understand their performance; I don't think Chelsea will make a good position this season.

Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.

Agree with you, Chelsea management decision to loan Kepa to Real Madrid was ridiculous. I think the Blues also lack a playmaker in midfield, who can set the tempo of the game like Frank Lampard in the past. My prediction is that if Chelsea cannot recover in the next three matches in the EPL, we can be sure that Pochettino squad will finish outside the UCL zone.

There are lots of sharp comments criticizing Pochettino tactical qualities, but I think it's normal because he's spending a lot of budget and hasn't been able to bring Chelsea to a winning path.

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[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.

What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.

It seems that Garnacho goal was disputed again by Ten Hag in front of the media. But it sounded like he wasn't admitting defeat. Whether it's Offside or not, the referee's decision is final and Arsenal has won the match. Regarding VAR, we already know that in every match there will always be something that doesn't fit, maybe the Man United fans don't accept this crushing defeat. Very disappointing of course, but to be honest, I think Arsenal mentality is better and they can turn things around quickly, They used the last minutes in an extraordinary way.

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Quote from: ShowOff on September 04, 2023, 08:09:06 AM

Anything can happen during a match and sometimes some of the referee's decisions will not be in your favor. The fans complained, the coaches complained, and so did the gamblers who felt they deserved to win their bets. Things like that happen often and are quite disappointing, that's what Ten Hag said after the match even though he felt his team had done their best.

Yes, this will clearly not be beneficial for Manchester United who feel at a disadvantage with VAR because they will claim it was not offside but the referee and VAR assistant have given a decision with analysis that it is offside, especially if the goal occurs it will be Manchester United's win, but the facts different. Tongue

This often happens in football matches, not only is this the only controversial incident, but several others have also experienced the same thing, just accept the referee's decision and that is the final decision.

Obviously Manchester United bettors will be disappointed. Grin

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Quote from: Weawant on September 04, 2023, 07:20:12 AM

Manchester united is weak at their defense and that's why they conceded a goal just one minute after scoring Arsenal. Their defense also lack concentration because knowing the game was about to end, they would had defended properly and taken home one point.

The game was already tensed at that final minutes, the defenders could just try their best but there won’t be a certainty that they can defend the one goal till the end of the match. The same way Manchester United defenders will be feeling is the same way as Arsenal’s but the pressure was just more on Manchester United and they couldn’t withstand it which led to the goal by Declan Rice and Gabriel Jesus.

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The officiating staffs of the game contributed in Manchester united losing because they officiated very poorly but that wasn't an excuse because from how Arsenal played, they would had still found a way to win the game and as for the last goal, G. Jesus is world class.

The officiating was okay and has nothing to do with them losing. They both played well but Arsenal was lucky to have won the game in the final minutes. I feel if the Arsenal second goal had came earlier before the extra time, Manchester United might have equalised and levelled the game again. They both did well but Arsenal did better and won the game in the end, so hard luck to Manchester United this time around.

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The game really showed why we shouldn't stop watching early. I mean, an extra 11 minutes? That's nut.! And that time was, to me, the heart of how unpredictable the Premier League is. I couldn't believe that Rice's shot went back in and that Onana missed the block. Really, how fast! Man U. was trying to get a draw, and Arsenal scored a goal late in the game thanks to Gabriel Jess. It seems like both teams changed how they played because of that long extra time. How could that be? It's frustrating to think about what could have happened if you had watched until the end

This is a new regulation that is implemented by the FA, strict sanctions are also prepared by the FA for individuals or teams who commit violations. The FA has also adopted the additional time or injury time system that was previously used at the 2022 world cup in Qatar. and we, have seen it in a few of these competitions.

In essence, the Gunners succeeded in overthrowing the Red Devil at their own headquarters, Emirates Stadium. As previously predicted, this match will present an exciting match between the two teams. Rice, scored his first goal with Arsenal and proved he was a worthy player. while the final goal was scored by Gabriel Jesus. as a result, Arsenal won full points for this match and placed 5th in the standings. even though in reality, there is only a difference of two points from Manchester City who are at the top of the standings.

On the other hand, United actually had several opportunities but unfortunately they were unable to increase their number of goals. Of the three counter-attacks that United had, only one was utilized very well. In this match, Manchester United were just unlucky, in the final seconds of the match, they were unable to maintain their position after the match had progressed in normal time. in the end, Arsenal managed to win this match.

Not gonna lie I also turned the match off when I saw it. It was almost 90 minutes and Manchester United as well as Arsenal was not scoring. I thought the match was definitely going to finish as a draw. I actually have heard people turning the match off even at 90 minutes. I believe they did not know that this was going to happen.

Manchester United definitely had a lot of chances, but they did not do very well when they were approaching the final third of the pitch. Almost all of us had doubts about Manchester United attacking lineup. And of course that proved to be true, because this match could have easily gone the other way.

Congratulations to Arsenal for winning the match and not giving up even at the end of the match. This is a great mindset from Arsenal.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on September 04, 2023, 08:18:24 AM

Quote from: HajiBagi on September 04, 2023, 07:38:04 AM

The most surprising aspect is that when Chelsea has a chance to score, the players will play the ball out and some can't play it in a normal way. It would be better if Chelsea didn't even sign any players this season because I can see that the players they used last season are even better than this season's own; all of the players are young players and I still don't even understand their performance; I don't think Chelsea will make a good position this season.

Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.

I personally don't care about the Chelsea squad because after all, because Chelsea has also spent a lot of money in the transfer window to bring in players. Then at least, it is a must for Chelsea to be able to have good results, performance and position also in the Premier League standings now. But anyway, the reality is that the results Chelsea have at this moment are still far from good results as expected. Therefore, whoever the players are in the Chelsea squad at this moment, of course they get big pressure because they are required to be able to successfully get points in each match.

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An exciting match for both of them, especially as Arsenal continued to press so they got a gap in the last minute and forced Manchester United to concede two goals in just a few minutes. Arsenal played well at home as hosts, of course they had to give their best for everyone. their fans and make sure to reap three points from this match to get on the winning track again to get a better position at the top of the standings.

Declan rice is a good defensive midfielder and Arsenal made the right decision to sign him. He will go on to create memories with Arsenal just as he has started with a great win against Manchester united. Declan rice played very well against Manchester united and got a goal.

Manchester united is weak at their defense and that's why they conceded a goal just one minute after scoring Arsenal. Their defense also lack concentration because knowing the game was about to end, they would had defended properly and taken home one point.

The officiating staffs of the game contributed in Manchester united losing because they officiated very poorly but that wasn't an excuse because from how Arsenal played, they would had still found a way to win the game and as for the last goal, G. Jesus is world class.

He has already created history by scoring his first ever Premier League goal against Man United. Declan was active enough to help overpower Bruno and Erikson during the first half performance.
Before the defense, the coach should be the blame for the overall selection he should take all the blame and Man United need to improve.
Dragging points with Chelsea is what they are doing. A new plans for a solid defender and the exit of Maguire should be planned.

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