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Quote from: Plaguedeath on November 17, 2024, 03:21:12 AM

Ten Hag stayed in Manchester United for two years, that's a long time considering he didn't give any contribution to the team. I'm sure the fans will compare him with Nistelrooy because shit can happen, Nistelrooy only become a coach for 4 match, while Amorim might have more than 30+ match and I don't think he will able to make Manchester United to have undefeated record.

Amorim might recruit Gyokeres if Hojlund or Zirkzee can't score many goals.

What a non sense thing is this? Cheesy

It doesn't even make sense to compare a manager who have been two seasons in the club to an interim with only 4 games. If there's someone who compare Ten Hag and RVN, i'm sure he must be so crazy!!!!! Cheesy

I knew RVN had the highest win rate of all past Manchester United managers. But, it's only 4 games. I am also aware some were praising RVN was far better than Ten Hag after he helped the club to bounce back. It feels like a comedy.

As for Hojlund and Zirkzee, i'd prefer to put those two for sale, then sign Gyokeres from Lisbon. That's gonna solve their attacking problem.

You’re right. It’s not fair to compare a manager who has been at a club for two season to an interm coach that just had four matches to his name. However, the interm coach has already shown a glimpse of his potential and how capable he can be when given the job in a permanent basis. His brief tenure has highlited his tactical ability to inspire the team which makes him a long term target. As for Erik ten Hag, most fans felt his tenure left Manchester United playing below their standards and his tactical ability been often questioned at the club.

Regarding Højlund and Zirkzee, I think they need more support and playing time to be able to fully unlock their potentials. The idea of signing Gyökeres is not a bad one as he could add depth and competition to the attacking line up. With Ruben Amorim currently in charge of the club, I believe he can maximize the the potentials of players like Højlund and Zirkzee.

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Quote from: naira on November 18, 2024, 04:56:55 AM

What Ruben Amorim did was very appropriate because he certainly had analyzed the factors why Manchester United often failed to be consistent every season. Maybe some people will consider Amorim a little selfish for his decision not to involve Ruud van Nistelrooy and a number of staff, but if seen from the positive side Amorim has started a good decision and wants to maximize this opportunity purely under his system.

Well it seems so. Because of course Ruben Amorim has his own way and he definitely wants to focus in his own way without having to involve others who could disturb his focus. Because not everyone can get along with each other. And I'm happy because Ruben Amorim seems like a firm person and yes, even though he is young, I think his potential as a talented coach has really been visible since now.

I just hope he's not a selfish coach. Because at Man United I think this club needs a coach who can really approach the players in a good way. Because we know Man United is full of talented players and the coach's job here is to enable these players to maximize their abilities and ensure everything can come together and create good chemistry. Ruud has set a pretty good example and I hope Amorim can set the same.

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Quote from: mamesso on November 17, 2024, 12:52:02 AM

The only reason Man United management appointed Amorim to replace Ten Hag was because his performance with Sporting was very satisfactory, the same thing was also done by Man United when they brought in Ten Hag, at that time he was a successful coach with Ajax Amsterdam. It should be underlined that the EPL atmosphere is very different from other leagues, Amorim needs to adapt to the EPL hard and fast style of play. Now Amorim is carrying a big responsibility, he is expected to raise Man United status back to being a respected club like when Alex Ferguson was still in charge. I'm not sure he can do it anytime soon because the competition in the EPL is very competitive.

The English Premier League is widely regarded as the most competitive league in the world. And Manchester United’s reason to appoint Ruben Amorim as the new head coach is not solely because of this remarkable success at Sporting CP but also a strategic move to elevate Manchester united standard of play. After a difficult period under Erik ten hag, Amorim’s appointment as the the new manager for United represent a fresh start and renewed commitment in restoring the club's legacy.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 18, 2024, 04:36:57 AM

I am sure Ruben Amorim understands what he has to do to start a new season in the Premier League with Man United, therefore he does not want to get involved with Man United's past because he might fix the players who suit his character and he also has his own coaching system, the players must show their best performance so that the coach can rely on them without having to replace some more players. I think Man United still has a good squad if it is honed well like Ruud can do after Ten Hag left the club.

What Ruben Amorim did was very appropriate because he certainly had analyzed the factors why Manchester United often failed to be consistent every season. Maybe some people will consider Amorim a little selfish for his decision not to involve Ruud van Nistelrooy and a number of staff, but if seen from the positive side Amorim has started a good decision and wants to maximize this opportunity purely under his system.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 17, 2024, 02:42:33 PM

Nistelrooy said goodbye to Manchester United and he officially left this team. I think it was the wrong move from Manchester United to let Nistelrooy leave the team because he was having a good performance and even there is the chance for Manchester United to have a poor performance with Amorim. While Nistelrooy was not bad at all and after Ten Hag left the team, he tried to fill the pale of Ten Hag in the best way.
Nistelrooy posted a picture on social media and this way he said goodbye to the fans and the team.

To be honest, I personally also feel sad about losing Nistelrooy because he coached Manchester United well, but of course from the start Nistelrooy was only going to be a temporary coach, but of course in this case I don't blame Manchester United because Nistelrooy was only going to be a temporary coach.

but in my opinion it is fortunate that Manchester United chose Amorim because of course Amorim is no less great than Nistelrooy because Amorim is also a great coach in the Portuguese League. but what is certain is that we will not know how Amorim will be in the EPL because what is certain is that the EPL is different from the Portuguese League.

Yes, now we'll see what the results will be in the first match. Amorim made a strategy to win Manchester United against Ipswich, but I'm sure that Manchester United will win in that match because of course if you look at the squad, Manchester United is certainly better than Ipswich. What do you think about Manchester United's next match, will they win or not? How many goals do you think the score will result in?

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 18, 2024, 04:22:14 AM

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For week 12 Arsenal will fight against Nottingham Forest and based on the current standing of both teams whether it Arsenal and Nottingham Forest has same points and last week Nottingham Forest has just ended their unbeated records because they lost from Newcastle and for Arsenal their recent performance also is not so different because Arsenal was unable to win in the last 3 matches in all competitions

On the paper and meeting records certainly Arsenal is much better than Nottingham Forest but i think they shouldn't be underestimate Nottingham Forest because sometimes if fight against strong team Nottingham Forest has strong motivation to win even they are the only team who can able to beat Liverpool this season so this match will be so tight and this is hard match for Arsenal

Arsenal is a big club and is stronger than Nottingham Forest. They have shown progress in recent seasons making them one of the title favourites in the EPL. Playing at Emirates gives Arsenal an additional advantage against Nottingham forest. Although Nottingham Forest have shown improvement this season and even managed to beat Liverpool in the past, but they still lack the depth and quality Arsenal possesses. However, Nottingham Forest cannot be underestimated, they have pulled up surprises against big teams before, Arsenal should not feel more relaxed and over confident coming into this match.

What @bering said is very true, if Arsenal is currently still a team that looks strong but Nottingham also has the opportunity to give a surprise. I don't think Arsenal will lose when playing against Nottingham, but Nottingham can hold the match to a draw.
We can see from the statistics the number of scores and goals conceded by both teams is almost the same and that means both teams have the same opportunity.
However, if in that match Nottingham can give a surprise, it will be very embarrassing.

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Quote from: irhact on November 17, 2024, 07:32:40 AM

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Moreover, Amorim also respects his own team and tries not to betray them to give a place to the previous staff, I'm sure Ruud can understand it, the club must also respect Amorim's decision because if it is forced it will not be good for the club because working together also requires adaptation and chemistry.

Amorim needs time to get the current Manchester United squad to be prepared for the rest of the season. We shouldn't use the impact that Ruud got to expect same thing from Amorim. The players knew that their position weren't guaranteed with Ruud therefore they played very well to try and get more playing time but under the new permanent manager, after some players get it that they're part of the first team, they won't be overplaying again but to reserve their strength for other games therefore we mightn't be getting the same energy we use to get from them and it can affect the teams performance therefore it depends on how the manager handle the situation.

I am sure Ruben Amorim understands what he has to do to start a new season in the Premier League with Man United, therefore he does not want to get involved with Man United's past because he might fix the players who suit his character and he also has his own coaching system, the players must show their best performance so that the coach can rely on them without having to replace some more players. I think Man United still has a good squad if it is honed well like Ruud can do after Ten Hag left the club.

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Quote from: bering on November 17, 2024, 05:01:20 AM

For week 12 Arsenal will fight against Nottingham Forest and based on the current standing of both teams whether it Arsenal and Nottingham Forest has same points and last week Nottingham Forest has just ended their unbeated records because they lost from Newcastle and for Arsenal their recent performance also is not so different because Arsenal was unable to win in the last 3 matches in all competitions

On the paper and meeting records certainly Arsenal is much better than Nottingham Forest but i think they shouldn't be underestimate Nottingham Forest because sometimes if fight against strong team Nottingham Forest has strong motivation to win even they are the only team who can able to beat Liverpool this season so this match will be so tight and this is hard match for Arsenal

Arsenal is a big club and is stronger than Nottingham Forest. They have shown progress in recent seasons making them one of the title favourites in the EPL. Playing at Emirates gives Arsenal an additional advantage against Nottingham forest. Although Nottingham Forest have shown improvement this season and even managed to beat Liverpool in the past, but they still lack the depth and quality Arsenal possesses. However, Nottingham Forest cannot be underestimated, they have pulled up surprises against big teams before, Arsenal should not feel more relaxed and over confident coming into this match.

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Quote from: bering on November 18, 2024, 02:14:23 AM

The rumour is Manchester City and Guardiola is under negotiation to talking about new contract and it says Guardiola is willing to extended his contract for at least 1 year but before he sign new contract Guardiola want Manchester City provides a guarantee that they will give their priority to hold Haaland and Rodri besides these players in January later Guardiola want to bought the players he wants such as Martin Zubimendi and Jamal Musiala and i think for Zubimendi it is very possible to gets because lately at the interview Zubimendi has been said that he was to thinking to leave Sociedad if there is good offer come to him but for Jamal Musiala i think this is hard because i am sure Bayern Munich will attempts to hold this player

The rumor sounds a little bit odd, because we all know that pep isn't the type that publicly ask/request for players. It's even very difficult to hear him say that he wants certain players to stay with him. But let's assume the rumor is true. Zubimendi to City?, Well, maybe he might just be the perfect piece that will suit pep's style of play, considering the fact that Rodri is still very much absent. But not sure if his injury worries is also another factor that the club might consider. And as for musiala, I've heard of that tumor before, but it's clearly almost impossible for such to happen. Young talent at that age, I don't see Bayern releasing him. He is an AMF, so I don't think he will be a solution to the Rodri's problem. Or maybe they might want him as a KDB replacement.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 18, 2024, 03:07:06 AM

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The rumour is Manchester City and Guardiola is under negotiation to talking about new contract and it says Guardiola is willing to extended his contract for at least 1 year but before he sign new contract Guardiola want Manchester City provides a guarantee that they will give their priority to hold Haaland and Rodri besides these players in January later Guardiola want to bought the players he wants such as Martin Zubimendi and Jamal Musiala and i think for Zubimendi it is very possible to gets because lately at the interview Zubimendi has been said that he was to thinking to leave Sociedad if there is good offer come to him but for Jamal Musiala i think this is hard because i am sure Bayern Munich will attempts to hold this player

He will prolly leave Manchester City with a squad that is not young and energetic. Holding Rodri and Erling could be possible, these are names Pep Guardiola brought into Manchester City. I love the idea of Zubimendi and Jamal Musiala who will be the ideal replacement of Kevin De Bruyne and Rodri if he does leave eventually in the future to Real Madrid or Fc Barcelona. As per Pep's contract signature, just like Erik ten Hag said when he was signed, Era's comes to an end!

It seems that Guardiola really feels without Rodri Man City is experiencing a decline in performance and if they also have to lose Halaand then the front line will really be faced with how to break the deadlock. Therefore he put forward that the requisite because if he has to continue his career with Man City he wants a promising squad. Martin Zubimendi could be a good partner for Rodri in the middle, while Jamal Musiala is the right player to replace KDB, it's just that Man City has to be ready to prepare a lot of money to bring in the wonder kid.

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Quote from: bering on November 18, 2024, 02:14:23 AM

The rumour is Manchester City and Guardiola is under negotiation to talking about new contract and it says Guardiola is willing to extended his contract for at least 1 year but before he sign new contract Guardiola want Manchester City provides a guarantee that they will give their priority to hold Haaland and Rodri besides these players in January later Guardiola want to bought the players he wants such as Martin Zubimendi and Jamal Musiala and i think for Zubimendi it is very possible to gets because lately at the interview Zubimendi has been said that he was to thinking to leave Sociedad if there is good offer come to him but for Jamal Musiala i think this is hard because i am sure Bayern Munich will attempts to hold this player

Guardiola was supposed to leave city by the end of this season this news of him now wanting to extend by a year will be of great benefit to the team as they will get some last benefits from him just before he leaves but this terms he's wanting along side just looks some kind of way but since city will probably be getting a replacement for those will not be a really bad one.

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Arsenal's current form means they could be in a good position by the end of the season but they have no hope of winning the title. It is true that Arsenal cannot maintain their consistency and performance since the beginning of the season, if they could then they would definitely be favourites for the title. They have faced the same situation in the last two seasons and I can see them facing the same situation this season too. Although Arsenal have a good lead to stay in a good position in the points table but they have been unable to maintain their dominance till the end.

Arsenal's current form means they could be in a good position at the end of the season but they won't win the title, you can't say it for sure. Because it is impossible for anyone to say for sure when a team will win a match. Also what you said about the Arsenal team is that this team has been in a good position for the last two seasons but they have not won the title. You might be partially wrong as Arsenal have performed extremely well in the 2022/23 Premier League season which has seen them finish second in the Premier League standings. But they did not perform very well in the 20/21 Premier League season as a result of which they were at number 8 in the points table.

Arsenal's players have been consistent in their performances in the 2022/23 Premier League season, so maybe they will continue their performances this season as well. The Arsenal team in the Premier League is still in a good position in the 24-25 season.

I am pretty sure Arsenal will not win the title this season. There is no doubt that Liverpool is playing great. Chelsea and Brighton are also performing better than Arsenal. On the other hand, even if Manchester City loses points in a few matches, they will definitely compete for the title. It will not be possible for Arsenal to leave so many teams behind and occupy the top spot of the table this season.

Last season, Arsenal lost a total of 10 points out of 38 matches. Arsenal lost 5 matches and drew 5 matches. This season, Arsenal lost points in 6 matches out of 11 matches. Arsenal drew 4 matches and lost 2 matches. If Arsenal wants to occupy the top spot of the table, they will have to win at least 24 matches out of the next 27 matches. Otherwise, Arsenal will not be able to occupy the top spot of the table.

However, I don't think Arsenal will be able to compete for the title this season. The performance of this team is quite weak. Arsenal will probably lose points in the next few matches. Even staying in the top four of the table will be difficult for Arsenal this season.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on November 17, 2024, 10:34:09 PM

Arsenal's current form means they could be in a good position by the end of the season but they have no hope of winning the title. It is true that Arsenal cannot maintain their consistency and performance since the beginning of the season, if they could then they would definitely be favourites for the title. They have faced the same situation in the last two seasons and I can see them facing the same situation this season too. Although Arsenal have a good lead to stay in a good position in the points table but they have been unable to maintain their dominance till the end.

Arsenal's current form means they could be in a good position at the end of the season but they won't win the title, you can't say it for sure. Because it is impossible for anyone to say for sure when a team will win a match. Also what you said about the Arsenal team is that this team has been in a good position for the last two seasons but they have not won the title. You might be partially wrong as Arsenal have performed extremely well in the 2022/23 Premier League season which has seen them finish second in the Premier League standings. But they did not perform very well in the 20/21 Premier League season as a result of which they were at number 8 in the points table.

Arsenal's players have consistently performed impeccable in every match in the 22/23 Premier League season, maybe they will be able to continue their impeccable performance this year too. The Arsenal team in the Premier League is still in a good position in the 24-25 season.

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Quote from: bering on November 18, 2024, 02:14:23 AM

The rumour is Manchester City and Guardiola is under negotiation to talking about new contract and it says Guardiola is willing to extended his contract for at least 1 year but before he sign new contract Guardiola want Manchester City provides a guarantee that they will give their priority to hold Haaland and Rodri besides these players in January later Guardiola want to bought the players he wants such as Martin Zubimendi and Jamal Musiala and i think for Zubimendi it is very possible to gets because lately at the interview Zubimendi has been said that he was to thinking to leave Sociedad if there is good offer come to him but for Jamal Musiala i think this is hard because i am sure Bayern Munich will attempts to hold this player

He will prolly leave Manchester City with a squad that is not young and energetic. Holding Rodri and Erling could be possible, these are names Pep Guardiola brought into Manchester City. I love the idea of Zubimendi and Jamal Musiala who will be the ideal replacement of Kevin De Bruyne and Rodri if he does leave eventually in the future to Real Madrid or Fc Barcelona. As per Pep's contract signature, just like Erik ten Hag said when he was signed, Era's comes to an end!

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Well, defeat is a defeat regardless of which competition it occurs. Although,I don't have to blame Pep or the players for what Manchester city is passing through now. We all know the reason and cause for their recent abysmal. Things were not like this when their squad is complete and opposite performance is expected when key players are absent from the squad. No matter the experience of the couch, there is absolutely nothing to do when a team is hit with injuries other than decline performance.

On the other hand, I do expect a lot from them in the UCL. Premier league is a home league and Manchester city have won the league as many times as possible. Moreover, they're simply the best team in English league now. Premier league is believed to be more competitive than any other league in Europe, so why not expecting Manchester city to do well in the UCL? They're better compared to other teams playing the UCL but the same injuries affecting them in the local league is dealing with them in other competitions.

Every team must have experienced that phase and what Manchester City is experiencing right now is normal, I think even last season they have experienced something like this, especially now with many of Manchester City's main players being injured, of course their performance has dropped drastically.

This season is still quite long, so Pep still has a lot of time to fix Manchester City's performance, from what happened last season I think Pep can also solve the problems this season.
Don't overestimate Manchester City's current decline in performance, it's normal and they are still favored to win the Premier League title and also the Champions League.

What..are you kidding me, how is it possible for City to win Champions League when no one knows when they will get back to their best form. I don't we feel that a team cannot face challenges that will make them lose out in the competition. I must put it up to you that the chance of City winning EPL this season is 50-50 with their current form. The chance of Liverpool winning EPL this season is higher to that of City, if I am to judge based on the two teams current form. I believe many clubs are now used to City strategy and City engine room is not complete without Rodri, who will not play till next season.

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Quote from: knowngunman on November 18, 2024, 02:26:16 AM

Well, defeat is a defeat regardless of which competition it occurs. Although,I don't have to blame Pep or the players for what Manchester city is passing through now. We all know the reason and cause for their recent abysmal. Things were not like this when their squad is complete and opposite performance is expected when key players are absent from the squad. No matter the experience of the couch, there is absolutely nothing to do when a team is hit with injuries other than decline performance.

On the other hand, I do expect a lot from them in the UCL. Premier league is a home league and Manchester city have won the league as many times as possible. Moreover, they're simply the best team in English league now. Premier league is believed to be more competitive than any other league in Europe, so why not expecting Manchester city to do well in the UCL? They're better compared to other teams playing the UCL but the same injuries affecting them in the local league is dealing with them in other competitions.

Every team must have experienced that phase and what Manchester City is experiencing right now is normal, I think even last season they have experienced something like this, especially now with many of Manchester City's main players being injured, of course their performance has dropped drastically.

This season is still quite long, so Pep still has a lot of time to fix Manchester City's performance, from what happened last season I think Pep can also solve the problems this season.
Don't overestimate Manchester City's current decline in performance, it's normal and they are still favored to win the Premier League title and also the Champions League.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on November 17, 2024, 08:47:26 PM

Defeats in 4 consecutive matches occurred in different competitions and for the Premier League itself they only got 2 defeats, I don't expect much from Manchester City in the UCL but I want them to be able to rise at least to be able to defend the Premier League title and the UCL is bonus if Pep manages to slowly bring Manchester City back on the right track with the recovery of their best strength.

And I sure the return of performance is more guaranteed when the injured players can return to play or get replacement in the upcoming transfer window, moreover there are several players that Pep is targeting to be able to restore his squad and hopefully all of that can work according to his plan.

Well, defeat is a defeat regardless of which competition it occurs. Although,I don't have to blame Pep or the players for what Manchester city is passing through now. We all know the reason and cause for their recent abysmal. Things were not like this when their squad is complete and opposite performance is expected when key players are absent from the squad. No matter the experience of the couch, there is absolutely nothing to do when a team is hit with injuries other than decline performance.

On the other hand, I do expect a lot from them in the UCL. Premier league is a home league and Manchester city have won the league as many times as possible. Moreover, they're simply the best team in English league now. Premier league is believed to be more competitive than any other league in Europe, so why not expecting Manchester city to do well in the UCL? They're better compared to other teams playing the UCL but the same injuries affecting them in the local league is dealing with them in other competitions.

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The rumour is Manchester City and Guardiola is under negotiation to talking about new contract and it says Guardiola is willing to extended his contract for at least 1 year but before he sign new contract Guardiola want Manchester City provides a guarantee that they will give their priority to hold Haaland and Rodri besides these players in January later Guardiola want to bought the players he wants such as Martin Zubimendi and Jamal Musiala and i think for Zubimendi it is very possible to gets because lately at the interview Zubimendi has been said that he was to thinking to leave Sociedad if there is good offer come to him but for Jamal Musiala i think this is hard because i am sure Bayern Munich will attempts to hold this player

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Quote from: Barikui1 on November 18, 2024, 01:35:32 AM

Yea, you are very much correct on this bro, the high level of inconsistency is the major difference between arsenal and Manchester city side that has won the English premier league title in the past four seasons if am not mistaken, because the quality is also there in these arsenal team, but they are just too inconsistent to compete.

Biggest difference between Arsenal and Manchester City is their experience in Premier League title competition. Arsenal only joined it in two latest seasons, and this season is a third one after many years they struggled to finish with a position in top four. Manchester City in contrast have been joining a league title competition in many seasons and not only participate in it, they won many titles.

They have won 8 Premier League titles in following seasons, and since 2017 - 2018 seasons, they won 6 titles in 7 seasons. Arsenal can not compare with Manchester City in terms of experience.

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Quote from: Ayers on November 18, 2024, 12:42:37 AM

If they want to win the Premier League title, they have to keep performing consistently. There is no alternative. If you can't keep performing consistently, you won't be able to win the Premier League title. Because every season, 2/3 teams fight for the Premier League title.

In the last two seasons, we have seen Arsenal's inconsistent performance towards the end of the season, and Manchester City won the title in the end. We have seen Arsenal's inconsistent performance at the beginning of this season. And Arsenal is now 9 points behind Liverpool. This season, it will not be possible for Arsenal to compete for the title.

Yea, you are very much correct on this bro, the high level of inconsistency is the major difference between arsenal and Manchester city side that has won the English premier league title in the past four seasons if am not mistaken, because the quality is also there in these arsenal team, but they are just too inconsistent to compete.

Just as you rightfully pointed out, they became inconsistent when it really matters, towards the end of the season when everyone is giving their best hoping to finish strong and win something, but in the case of arsenal, they will be inconsistent during that period, so as it stands now, if they really want to win the premier league now or in the future, they just have to start ranking up the winnings and be as consistent as much as possible, and be hoping that Liverpool will drop point along the line, because right now, they are actually in a tight Conner due to their inconsistency.

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