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Quote from: bering on November 16, 2024, 11:52:31 AM

After International break we will watching one big match and they are the match between Manchester City vs Tottenham and as we all know both teams has been met few weeks ago and Tottenham surprisingly can beat Manchester City and in this match i would like to see whether Manchester City can able to gets revenge or not because this match is so important for them and 3 points is mandatory because if Manchester City lost or even draw then their chances to cut their difference points with Liverpool will be very slim

Last season on December Tottenham can successfully to playing draw from Manchester City at Etihad Stadium so probably there is a chance for them to repeat their achievement again and stole point from Manchester City moreover Manchester City condition is still not good because without Rodri they had suffering 4 losing streak in all competitions

Although Manchester City suffered a losing streak before the break, but in fact Tottenham also suffered two consecutive defeats before the break. Thus, maybe they also have a difficult situation at this moment, but we also don't know what will happen after this international break. Are they able to recover, or maybe they will still have pressure because maybe there are key players who are injured which will affect their performance later.

But at least, if we consider the odds available at this time, at least Manchester City is still very favored to win @1.5x compared to @5.7x at this time. I think, Tottenham is still in a very unstable performance, at least that is also what makes Tottenham currently still in 10th position with only 16 points, that is clearly a bad result for Tottenham in the current Premier League standings.

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After International break we will watching one big match and they are the match between Manchester City vs Tottenham and as we all know both teams has been met few weeks ago and Tottenham surprisingly can beat Manchester City and in this match i would like to see whether Manchester City can able to gets revenge or not because this match is so important for them and 3 points is mandatory because if Manchester City lost or even draw then their chances to cut their difference points with Liverpool will be very slim

Last season on December Tottenham can successfully to playing draw from Manchester City at Etihad Stadium so probably there is a chance for them to repeat their achievement again and stole point from Manchester City moreover Manchester City condition is still not good because without Rodri they had suffering 4 losing streak in all competitions

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Quote from: Farma on November 16, 2024, 05:24:30 AM

The difference in points is not too big because there are still a lot of matches left this season but the problem now is how Manchester City can get out of their slump after Pep Guardiola's team failed to win a match in 4 consecutive matches and even their performance was very bad.

We have seen how Pep Guardiola can always overcome the problems in the Manchester City team in previous seasons so the same thing is also possible to happen this season, so I think it's all a matter of time and Manchester City can definitely rise and return to the path of competition for the PL title this season.

Sure, the point gap between Manchester city and Liverpool is not much but Manchester city may not be lucky as they have been in past two seasons because Liverpool started in a very good form in all competitions this season, and they know how long they last won the premiership so they will take advantage of their top in the league table and not allow any form of distractions by dropping points. 5 points is not a huge gap but if they can maintain consistency till the season ends then i see no way that Manchester city will equal points or get higher than Liverpool. I strongly believe that Liverpool will win the title this season because they have few players on injury and their key players are not too affected unlike Manchester city than have dropped in form due to injuries that hit some of their important players like Rodri, Kevin De Bruyne, Kyle Walker, and others. Honestly. Pep Guardiola will not find it easy this season.

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Quote from: CageMabok on November 16, 2024, 10:56:24 AM

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Some media said that this decision was because Amorim already had his own coaching staff and Nistelrooy had a different coaching style. I don't know if the news is true or not. But this dismissal has disappointed some fans. This will also increase the pressure on Amorim because Nistelrooy managed to make United more stable and better. If Amorim gets a few defeats in his first match as a coach then of course he will not be liked. This is a gamble for Amorim. If he can provide positive results then his decision to dismiss Nistelrooy will be acceptable.

Maybe Amorim is very sure of his decision because he himself also has the ability to coach a big team even though it is not a team as big as Manchester United. And yes, I also think that Amorim could have quite a lot of pressure on himself as a new coach at Manchester United because he has to be able to bring Manchester United to win like Nistelrooy did before he was fired. And I think Manchester United can definitely win in the next match because considering the opponent they have to face is not a very difficult opponent next weekend.

We must respect Amorim's decision not to include Van Nistelrooy in his project, he has also brought in special staff to accompany him in coaching Man Utd, it does not mean that Van Nistelrooy is not suitable, but because of the difference in playing style, at least it will hinder the project plan that will be carried out later, Amorim must know what to do, we just leave it entirely to him and related to the positive results that Nistelrooy has shown previously, this also cannot be a reference that Amorim must do the same thing in the near future, being constrained in one or two matches is a natural thing because he is forming his new playing style with the Man Utd players.

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on November 16, 2024, 08:55:48 AM

Man UTD are going to experience a new manager if they get back from the international break and we have some players who haven't had a better taste of this season's action. Mason Mount has been one of the players who haven't played anything this season and with the new manager I doubt if he'll even see the starting lineup of Manchester United because he hasn't made any impact or any contribution to the club.
Mason Mount has made a great account of himself when he played for the Blues and now the Red Devils have him, I can't see anything positive he had given the team, injury has gotten the best of Mason Mount. I fear if the new manager will consider him as part of his project.

The new manager needs to taste him before deciding whether To make use of him this season or not. Everyone knows Mason Mount is doing well in Chelsea and scoring goals, and his performance has piqued Manchester United's interest in bringing him into the team. Mount has not really corporate in the team because his injury has made him bad enough, and I don't think even if he comes back, he will be able to perform as well as he did in Chelsea.

Ruben Amorim is a good coach, as evidenced by his battle to Manchester City in the UCL and eventual defeat. I see he will definitely help Manchester United improve their performance and win games in the competition, I'm just waiting for them to return from the international break and continue the league competition, because I don't enjoy watching international games unless they're for the World Cup or the Euros, which are more interesting. Let's watch how the new manager plays his first Premier League game against Ipswich Town next week, and perhaps the game will go in Manchester United's favor, allowing them to pick up another three points.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on November 16, 2024, 06:09:21 AM

Some media said that this decision was because Amorim already had his own coaching staff and Nistelrooy had a different coaching style. I don't know if the news is true or not. But this dismissal has disappointed some fans. This will also increase the pressure on Amorim because Nistelrooy managed to make United more stable and better. If Amorim gets a few defeats in his first match as a coach then of course he will not be liked. This is a gamble for Amorim. If he can provide positive results then his decision to dismiss Nistelrooy will be acceptable.

Maybe Amorim is very sure of his decision because he himself also has the ability to coach a big team even though it is not a team as big as Manchester United. And yes, I also think that Amorim could have quite a lot of pressure on himself as a new coach at Manchester United because he has to be able to bring Manchester United to win like Nistelrooy did before he was fired. And I think Manchester United can definitely win in the next match because considering the opponent they have to face is not a very difficult opponent next weekend.

Damn, Ruud van nistelrooy had a very short campaign as Manchester United interim manager, he had a very good record of three wins and one draw, I think I support his decision to leave the club since the new head coach wants to take over coaching with his entourage instead of trying to put up with syncing with ten Hag's staffs.

The new coach choose a different style of coaching and I think he should be allowed to do every needful to bring the United team to speed and winning good trophies again. Best of luck to Amorim on his stay in Manchester.

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on November 16, 2024, 08:55:48 AM

Man UTD are going to experience a new manager if they get back from the international break and we have some players who haven't had a better taste of this season's action. Mason Mount has been one of the players who haven't played anything this season and with the new manager I doubt if he'll even see the starting lineup of Manchester United because he hasn't made any impact or any contribution to the club.
Mason Mount has made a great account of himself when he played for the Blues and now the Red Devils have him, I can't see anything positive he had given the team, injury has gotten the best of Mason Mount. I fear if the new manager will consider him as part of his project.

I think Mason Mount's career is done at Manchester United. He gave nothing since he came to the club, and he joined in United 18 months ago. It's a shameful result for a midfielder who has ever won UCL trophy. I'm calling him as an absolute disaster signing by Manchester United.

They wasted $55m to sign an injury-prone player. I forgot he even existed in the club, tbh. They have to sell him in the winter/summer transfer season.

What i get from mount is all about bad vibes. Manchester United needs to cash in him asap.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on November 16, 2024, 06:09:21 AM

Some media said that this decision was because Amorim already had his own coaching staff and Nistelrooy had a different coaching style. I don't know if the news is true or not. But this dismissal has disappointed some fans. This will also increase the pressure on Amorim because Nistelrooy managed to make United more stable and better. If Amorim gets a few defeats in his first match as a coach then of course he will not be liked. This is a gamble for Amorim. If he can provide positive results then his decision to dismiss Nistelrooy will be acceptable.

Maybe Amorim is very sure of his decision because he himself also has the ability to coach a big team even though it is not a team as big as Manchester United. And yes, I also think that Amorim could have quite a lot of pressure on himself as a new coach at Manchester United because he has to be able to bring Manchester United to win like Nistelrooy did before he was fired. And I think Manchester United can definitely win in the next match because considering the opponent they have to face is not a very difficult opponent next weekend.

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Quote from: Farma on November 16, 2024, 05:24:30 AM

The difference in points is not too big because there are still a lot of matches left this season but the problem now is how Manchester City can get out of their slump after Pep Guardiola's team failed to win a match in 4 consecutive matches and even their performance was very bad.

We have seen how Pep Guardiola can always overcome the problems in the Manchester City team in previous seasons so the same thing is also possible to happen this season, so I think it's all a matter of time and Manchester City can definitely rise and return to the path of competition for the PL title this season.

Pep Guardiola may often be able to turn things around, especially when the title race is approaching the end of the season. But it looks like this time it could be different, because Man City has never experienced 4 consecutive defeats in the last 10 years, and it might be that their rivals will be much tougher this season because I think teams like Liverpool and Arsenal have already learned from the mistakes that made them slip at the end of the season. So if Man City can't get back on their feet quickly, I think they will really miss their chance this season.

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Quote from: mamesso on November 16, 2024, 10:44:12 AM

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I feel so disappointed by the action of Ruben Amorin because it shows some level of ungratefulness and it is obvious he is setting himself up to fail. .

Some media said that this decision was because Amorim already had his own coaching staff and Nistelrooy had a different coaching style. I don't know if the news is true or not. But this dismissal has disappointed some fans. This will also increase the pressure on Amorim because Nistelrooy managed to make United more stable and better. If Amorim gets a few defeats in his first match as a coach then of course he will not be liked. This is a gamble for Amorim. If he can provide positive results then his decision to dismiss Nistelrooy will be acceptable.

Yes, Amorim chose to work with his staff which cost Van Nistelrooy his job, but that decision cannot be intervened by Manchester United. What Van Nistelrooy has done during his time as Interim coach in four matches has put a little pressure on Amorim, he who has just started his career in the EPL certainly has to adapt to a different style of play from the Portuguese League. The club's board and fans are hoping Amorim can be Manchester United's saviour, but if he fails, the pressure will be on him given the positive record he has achieved alongside Van Nistelrooy in four games.

I hardly believe that Amorim would fail on his mission to strengthen the club performance and make them better than during their glorious days, because he is a good coach that knows what he is doing. However, if he fails to be successful in his mission and the club performance did not improve, it will give room for Manchester united to start considering Van Nistelrooy as the next option, or that will make Amorim need Van Nistelrooy to be his assistant, if he doesn't have pride in him.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on November 16, 2024, 06:09:21 AM

Quote from: Moreno233 on November 13, 2024, 03:17:52 AM

I feel so disappointed by the action of Ruben Amorin because it shows some level of ungratefulness and it is obvious he is setting himself up to fail. .

Some media said that this decision was because Amorim already had his own coaching staff and Nistelrooy had a different coaching style. I don't know if the news is true or not. But this dismissal has disappointed some fans. This will also increase the pressure on Amorim because Nistelrooy managed to make United more stable and better. If Amorim gets a few defeats in his first match as a coach then of course he will not be liked. This is a gamble for Amorim. If he can provide positive results then his decision to dismiss Nistelrooy will be acceptable.

Yes, Amorim chose to work with his staff which cost Van Nistelrooy his job, but that decision cannot be intervened by Manchester United. What Van Nistelrooy has done during his time as Interim coach in four matches has put a little pressure on Amorim, he who has just started his career in the EPL certainly has to adapt to a different style of play from the Portuguese League. The club's board and fans are hoping Amorim can be Manchester United's saviour, but if he fails, the pressure will be on him given the positive record he has achieved alongside Van Nistelrooy in four games.

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Quote from: tygeade on November 16, 2024, 09:38:21 AM

So if Ruud stayed, he could have given Amorim some insider information, that way Amorim could have started a bit better. In any case, I am sure that we are going to see him do fine, he will need just a few games adjustment period, and if he can achieve that, rest will be much easier for him to get better results on. When you are a new coach, the hardest part is to get to learn more about players, and their personality, sometimes takes as much as months but after you do learn more about them, you end up not getting anything worse, you end up only growing better.

It was actually Amorim that might have not kept Ruud or simply offered him a lesser role, my reason for saying this is that Ruud Van Nistrooy said that he was actually going to do anything to help Manchester United get back to the old glory days and that’s why he even accepted the offer of been the assistant manager in the first place and that is the only club he is doing that for. So for him to be leaving now it definitely would be Amorim decision because the new Manchester United manager has already made it clear that he is moving with his managerial crew to the club and the club had to pay their contracts too off. Maybe Amorim doesn’t want someone with so much influence on the players like Ruud Van Nistrooy around to avoid distraction, which is a big decision and also a wise decision to me.

Ruud Van Nistrooy on the other hand will definitely get a new club easily, I heard he had applied for the Coventry job after missing out on the Roma job, it is a wise decision as this will help him polish his CV more before a bigger offer comes his way

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on November 16, 2024, 08:55:48 AM

Man UTD are going to experience a new manager if they get back from the international break and we have some players who haven't had a better taste of this season's action. Mason Mount has been one of the players who haven't played anything this season and with the new manager I doubt if he'll even see the starting lineup of Manchester United because he hasn't made any impact or any contribution to the club.
Mason Mount has made a great account of himself when he played for the Blues and now the Red Devils have him, I can't see anything positive he had given the team, injury has gotten the best of Mason Mount. I fear if the new manager will consider him as part of his project.

The arrival of Amorim as the new manager could be a breath of fresh air for Manchester United at the moment after what we saw in the previous ten hag era, I think with his ability to maximise the potential of young players will certainly give more hope for Manchester United young players to show their quality, especially Mount, his previous good form with Chelsea did not guarantee Mount can place in the Red Devils first squad under Ten Hag, so indeed the arrival of Amorim should be an opportunity for him to be able to show a good performance and gain the trust of Amorim later, although injuries often happen to him, but I think he still has the potential to be a key player at Manchester United and it will really depend on how much he is able to take advantage of the opportunity given by Amorim later.

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Quote from: tygeade on November 16, 2024, 09:38:21 AM

Amorim would have wanted Ruud to stay for a while though, like for example to get a report on who looks like how. Remember, this isn't a fifa or football manager game, players do not have ratings written on top of them, nothing is for certain and if nobody tells you anything, all you can base your assumption on is previous games, but that is based on another coach, and things are different now.

So if Ruud stayed, he could have given Amorim some insider information, that way Amorim could have started a bit better. In any case, I am sure that we are going to see him do fine, he will need just a few games adjustment period, and if he can achieve that, rest will be much easier for him to get better results on. When you are a new coach, the hardest part is to get to learn more about players, and their personality, sometimes takes as much as months but after you do learn more about them, you end up not getting anything worse, you end up only growing better.

Van Nistelrooy is not the only person who was in the team and knows everything that Amorim might need, so when coaches are fired they are allowed to leave the team the next day. Moreover, Amorim can get a lot of information by reviewing Manchester United games, he will already see the weak points. I don’t know what else valuable Van Nistelrooy can tell him that Amorim does not see.

Maybe he offered him to stay in the team, but it is clear that he could not give him a high position, as an assistant coach and Van Nistelrooy understands that it is better for him to get a head coach’s job in another team than to remain insignificant in Manchester United.

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Before starting work on Manchester United. Nistelrooy was working for PSV and maybe this means Nistelrooy is experienced enough to help Manchester United where he played therefor years. Even he had a good performance as the coach of Macnshter United when they were playing against Newcastle United and maybe that's a good sign to say Nistelrooy could help this team even more than Ten Hag
I think since Nistelrooy is familiar with the team the best they can do is to keep Nistelrooy for a longer time to help Amorim if Amorim agrees. Because Amorim is not familiar with the Premier League at all.

I think Van Nistelrooy has left the team. I am sure Ruben Amorim has his own team. He will want to work with his own team and I understand that because he really did a great job with his team at Sporting Lisbon. He will probably bring some important players from Lisbon to Manchester. I believe the Portuguese manager will bring a new breath to Manchester. He has made a good start to his career. I hope he can show us a Manchester United that can play at the top of the Premier League.

Amorim would have wanted Ruud to stay for a while though, like for example to get a report on who looks like how. Remember, this isn't a fifa or football manager game, players do not have ratings written on top of them, nothing is for certain and if nobody tells you anything, all you can base your assumption on is previous games, but that is based on another coach, and things are different now.

So if Ruud stayed, he could have given Amorim some insider information, that way Amorim could have started a bit better. In any case, I am sure that we are going to see him do fine, he will need just a few games adjustment period, and if he can achieve that, rest will be much easier for him to get better results on. When you are a new coach, the hardest part is to get to learn more about players, and their personality, sometimes takes as much as months but after you do learn more about them, you end up not getting anything worse, you end up only growing better.

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Man UTD are going to experience a new manager if they get back from the international break and we have some players who haven't had a better taste of this season's action. Mason Mount has been one of the players who haven't played anything this season and with the new manager I doubt if he'll even see the starting lineup of Manchester United because he hasn't made any impact or any contribution to the club.
Mason Mount has made a great account of himself when he played for the Blues and now the Red Devils have him, I can't see anything positive he had given the team, injury has gotten the best of Mason Mount. I fear if the new manager will consider him as part of his project.

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Can't think anymore what is happening now to Man United who initially wanted Ten Hag fired and now it is official Ten Hag fired and there is a new problem related to Amorim and Nistelrooy. On the one hand this time I am just a bettor hoping everything will go well and what Amorim did is indeed not justified, but the problem is that each coach has their own staff and Nistelrooy as a temporary coach actually understands this. Let's just see how MU performs against Ipswich and their performance in the European league later. If the results still look good, maybe MU fans don't need to be disappointed.

I have a different opinion from you because I don't see that as a problem. At the time after Nistelrooy was appointed as caretaker, Nistelrooy revealed that he did not want to become a permanent coach. So it is obvious for Man United to immediately look for a replacement for Ten Hag, and that is why they signed Ruben Amorim. As a new coach, Amorim clearly has his own agenda and plans, and if Nistelrooy was not part of it, I think that's reasonable. Whether he is successful or not cannot be judged just by 1-3 matches because to make Man United better it will take at least 3-5 seasons.

A change of coach always brings challenges, especially when there is a difference in vision between the new coach and the old staff, we know that Amorim, as a new Manchester United coach certainly has a different strategy, approach, and he have staff who has been supporting him at Sporting previously, so that indeed makes Nistelrooy no longer have a place in the current Manchester United squad, Nistelrooy dismissal certainly raises a lot of controversy after what he did in the last few matches, but apart from that, of course Manchester United cannot monopolise Amorim decision to bring his staff to work at Manchester United at this time .
The assessment of the coach performance cannot be done only based on the first few matches, so Amorim or other coach must be given time to see the real impact of his leadership at clubs.

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Quote from: len01 on November 16, 2024, 07:19:10 AM

Can't think anymore what is happening now to Man United who initially wanted Ten Hag fired and now it is official Ten Hag fired and there is a new problem related to Amorim and Nistelrooy. On the one hand this time I am just a bettor hoping everything will go well and what Amorim did is indeed not justified, but the problem is that each coach has their own staff and Nistelrooy as a temporary coach actually understands this. Let's just see how MU performs against Ipswich and their performance in the European league later. If the results still look good, maybe MU fans don't need to be disappointed.

I have a different opinion from you because I don't see that as a problem. At the time after Nistelrooy was appointed as caretaker, Nistelrooy revealed that he did not want to become a permanent coach. So it is obvious for Man United to immediately look for a replacement for Ten Hag, and that is why they signed Ruben Amorim. As a new coach, Amorim clearly has his own agenda and plans, and if Nistelrooy was not part of it, I think that's reasonable. Whether he is successful or not cannot be judged just by 1-3 matches because to make Man United better it will take at least 3-5 seasons.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on November 16, 2024, 06:09:21 AM

Quote from: Moreno233 on November 13, 2024, 03:17:52 AM

I feel so disappointed by the action of Ruben Amorin because it shows some level of ungratefulness and it is obvious he is setting himself up to fail. .

Some media said that this decision was because Amorim already had his own coaching staff and Nistelrooy had a different coaching style. I don't know if the news is true or not. But this dismissal has disappointed some fans. This will also increase the pressure on Amorim because Nistelrooy managed to make United more stable and better. If Amorim gets a few defeats in his first match as a coach then of course he will not be liked. This is a gamble for Amorim. If he can provide positive results then his decision to dismiss Nistelrooy will be acceptable.

Can't think anymore what is happening now to Man United who initially wanted Ten Hag fired and now it is official Ten Hag fired and there is a new problem related to Amorim and Nistelrooy. On the one hand this time I am just a bettor hoping everything will go well and what Amorim did is indeed not justified, but the problem is that each coach has their own staff and Nistelrooy as a temporary coach actually understands this. Let's just see how MU performs against Ipswich and their performance in the European league later. If the results still look good, maybe MU fans don't need to be disappointed.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on November 16, 2024, 06:09:21 AM

Quote from: Moreno233 on November 13, 2024, 03:17:52 AM

I feel so disappointed by the action of Ruben Amorin because it shows some level of ungratefulness and it is obvious he is setting himself up to fail. .

Some media said that this decision was because Amorim already had his own coaching staff and Nistelrooy had a different coaching style. I don't know if the news is true or not. But this dismissal has disappointed some fans. This will also increase the pressure on Amorim because Nistelrooy managed to make United more stable and better. If Amorim gets a few defeats in his first match as a coach then of course he will not be liked. This is a gamble for Amorim. If he can provide positive results then his decision to dismiss Nistelrooy will be acceptable.

The disappointment of some fans is understandable because even though he has only coached Man United for a short time, RvN has given Man United hope to rise with the results of 4 matches and 11 goals. However, RvN is only a temporary coach, the arrival of new coach Ruben Amorin has been the club's decision and if he does not use Rvn's services in his team, that is also reasonable because of course Ruben Amorin already has his own staff and of course it will be easier to build Man United's strength in the future.

As fans, there should be no need to be disappointed because Ruben Amorin did not include Rvn in his team. Rest assured, RVN will find it easier to get a job, maybe in the middle of the season or next season he can coach another club, because he has the potential to be a good coach so it is likely that he will not be unemployed for long.

In the future, RvN will coach a new team, so he can add to his experience as a coach, it is even possible that one day Man United will need his services again, the coach's abilities are very mature and can bring Man United back to its glory days.

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