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Quote from: Strongkored on June 23, 2023, 04:45:51 AM

Maybe comparing between players is not very appropriate, because these players have different characteristics and also as you mentioned different playing positions so that they give different results, also which club they play for is very decisive.
Haaland still has a very long career at the age of 22, he can achieve many achievements when he remains consistent, and also when he can correctly choose the club where he will have a career, because it is possible that Haaland will look for other clubs and not only in the English Premier League to get more.

It is clear that comparing players is not the right thing, because as you said every player has a different character for different results. No matter how good the players are, in fact, they cannot be used as a reference for a club's success, because there are indeed those who cannot contribute as expected when they are in a club where it is difficult to adapt to the players. With the quality and various achievements that Haaland has achieved, I don't think Manchester City will even plan to let him go, because after all he is an important asset in every game that Guardiola has and he is the spearhead who can always lead the club to win several wins. Although on the other hand, he has achieved a lot with Manchester City one of which is the Treble Winner and I think it is possible for him to seek new challenges with other clubs because maybe his goals have already been achieved.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 23, 2023, 10:09:18 AM

It seems many Mancshter City players are going to check the offers they have from other teams and Kalvin Phillips is one of these players, since Kalvin Phillips couldn't have a good performance in Manchester City I think he is going to join Bayer Munich soon because CAA is it an agent of Phillips and this company have good relation with Bayern Munich.
They transferred this player for 42m from Leeds to Manchester City and now maybe he is going to leave Manchester City.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/8439239/kalvin-phillips-transfer-bayern-munich-man-city-rice/

I don't think its just yet for Kalvin Philips to move from Manchester City. Remember, he just arrived and has won achievements. Obviously lack of game time is a factor for him but I think he did say that he will give it a time at City^[1]. City is a big club with lot of good players and its a competition within the squad so before moving to such club a player knows about that he is gonna struggle with the game time there. Also with Gundogan already leaving and Silva about to leave, it is very much likely that he is gonna get proper game time now.

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[1] https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1671189797128269828

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It seems many Mancshter City players are going to check the offers they have from other teams and Kalvin Phillips is one of these players, since Kalvin Phillips couldn't have a good performance in Manchester City I think he is going to join Bayer Munich soon because CAA is it an agent of Phillips and this company have good relation with Bayern Munich.
They transferred this player for 42m from Leeds to Manchester City and now maybe he is going to leave Manchester City.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/8439239/kalvin-phillips-transfer-bayern-munich-man-city-rice/

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 23, 2023, 07:39:48 AM

It's a shame what Chelsea did and I understand why Chelsea wanted the transfer fee, of course, to make up for the losses they made last winter. But now the situation is going to get complicated because Mason Mount is definitely not passionate about playing for Chelsea anymore and as you said the bench is where he finally got when he was still with Chelsea. I think Manchester United don't want to be fooled by Chelsea, that's why they always bid below what Chelsea wants. I hope there will be a real solution for Mason Mount before the summer closes.

What's shameful about rejecting bids from a club when it's not up to the required price tag for a player? if not that he doesn't want to continue his career anymore at Stamford Bridge and Chelsea is being forced to sell, Mason Mount would have been part of the club's rebuilding project. United is preparing a third offer in the region of £60-65M which should be finalized by next week but there's absolutely nothing wrong in rejecting those offers.

Quote from: JeffBrad12 on June 23, 2023, 08:22:41 AM

If i were rice and i will prefer to join in manchester city. The future in manchester city is quite bright rather than playing on arsenal. David james has been making correct points regarding what team that must become next team for declan rice.

Declan rice will have mo chances to win trophies once he will be going to the manchester city and he will have less chance to win trophy if he will be going to the arsenal.
Manchester city is back-to-back EPL champion. City was also getting UCL this season. The next trophy gonna be won by city once it will be able to beat sevilla in the match between UCL winner vs UEL winner.

Come on rice, pick the best one for you. Your choice, your future.

Let the lad go wherever his heart is... But why do you think Manchester City is going to dominate England for so long? There's a time United was a powerhouse, where are they now? If you have not noticed, the times are changing and money is being pumped into the league and it's not going to be that easy for any team. Look at what's happening at Newcastle United, look at United potential owner deep pocket. Also, you think Chelsea, Liverpool, and Arsenal would just fold their arms and watch?

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Ilkay Gundogan really seems to be leaving Manchester City this season. Man City has actually tried to defend the captain. But it seems Ilkay Gundogan wants to get a new challenge in another league. And Gundogan's goal is now clearer, namely to Laliga and more precisely based on the news I read that Gundogan seems to have agreed to leave Man City and will join Barcelona. And Gundogan seems to have met Xavi (Barcelona coach) first. And have made a deal. I think Barcelona were very lucky because they got Ilkay Gundogan. Barcelona already has many great players and with the addition of Gundogan, Barcelona will be even stronger. I hope Man City can find a replacement for Gundogan with other great players. And currently Man City itself is also hunting for many great players. and I believe Man City can always get another great player.

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Pep Guardiola wanted Ilkay to stay in the team. But an agreement could not be reached between Ilkay and club managers. In fact, I haven't even seen an offer made to Ilkay by Manchester City club managers. But Pep and all the fans were declaring that Ilkay should stay in Manchester City. I think club managers have firm principles on such matters. Ilkay showed a good performance on the field this season. But being 32 years old, he may not have met the club's principles. Now Ilkay's performance in his new team is a matter of curiosity for me. Likewise, the performance of the Manchester City midfield is a matter of curiosity for me.

Ilkay wants to stay at Manchester City and Manchester City want to keep him but Manchester City are willing to sign him on a one year deal as he is 32 years old so he won't stay at Manchester City on a one year deal. Manchester City must extend his contract if they want to keep him. Meanwhile, Manchester City won the UCL trophy for the first time through his leadership and he is an excellent midfielder for Manchester City, so Manchester City fans do not want to let him go to another club. Manchester City may extend his contract due to fan demand. It is rumored that Ilkay will move to Barcelona if the contract period with Ilkay does not go well.

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Nunez may not even be remotely close to Haaland, but I agree that the team plays a big role in there. If Nunez played for City and Haaland played for Liverpool, I think we would see Haaland score less and Nunez score more. Would Haaland still score more than Nunez? Maybe, maybe not.

I think the teams involved does play a huge role here. Nunez is a very talented player as well and could very well be relied upon to score goals. Manchester City plays beautiful football as a team and does a pretty good job of getting the ball over to Haaland who then goes ahead to score goals.
I agree with you that if the roles were reversed and Darwin Nunez was playing for Manchester City, we would see Nunez score more goals and Haaland score less. I think the entire team hugely contributed to a very successful first premier league season for Haaland.

With a squad like Manchester City, Nunez might have scored a lot of goals. Not to say that the Liverpool squad is weak. However, since Sadio Mane left the team, Liverpool's performance has completely collapsed. And their performance was very erratic. Because of this, the team has not consistently performed better than Nunez. However, in the last few games of the season, Liverpool played very well and their performance was stable. Therefore, it is expected that Liverpool's performance will not be irregular in the next season. At the same time, Nunez will be able to score a lot of goals if he gets enough support from his teammates.

A lot has indeed gone wrong since Mane's departure, but let's also not forget that Virgil van Dijk has left the best days behind him too. Since he recovered from his serious knee injury, he has never reached his old level again. He used to lead his defense perfectly, but now it's almost winning every game and it's all leaking like a basket in the back. Van Dijk is not someone you can just replace, but I think you're going to need more leadership at the back for Liverpool. Otherwise it could be another catastrophic season. If Klopp performs poorly again, it could be the end of the story for him. And was Arsenal's performance a fluke or were they just really good?

Sadio Mane was a very important player in Liverpool's squad. But Liverpool's management and coach could not understand Mane's talent. And so they sold Mane without finding a suitable replacement. And as a result, the performance of the entire team became unstable. However, almost all Premier League teams will make changes to their squads next season. Liverpool management should also add more talented players to their squad. If not, it will be much more difficult for Liverpool to stay in the competition. The team could not qualify for the Champions League. Their aim should be to win next season's Europa League.

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Liverpool started making more individual mistakes. Simple and avoidable mistakes that should not ever happen on that level, but when I watched Liverpool games they were also out of this craving for success that you usually could see in their faces. Sometimes even Klopp seemed to be puzzled about the mistakes that his players made. As if they were tired and drained. When they conceded a goal some years ago it almost meant nothing. Everyone knew that they will turn it around with every second that is left and so often they did it, but this has been a different Liverpool for some time now. I wish we get the old Liverpool back soon.

Well a bad season needed to happen. This is a really high level and is impossible to stay on it for a few years. Only team that was able to play really good all this years was Man City. But i see Liverpool next season in top 3 and i think Klopp can make that happen. They showed this season they can play really good and really bad . I think next season will be much different then this one

I guess it's right that it had to happen similar to a thunderstorm when it was too hot for too long or the weather needs to cool down. Liverpool had a few seasons in a row that were unbelievable. But I thought it is not the time yet for them to crash and I think missing the Champions League does hurt a club like Liverpool a lot because that is what is driving them to improve throughout the season and to never take a break but put even more effort into achieving their goals. Now it is a different situation. They did make it into the EL as has been said here, but it is not quite what those players want to play when they already have the experience of playing CL finals. They have been a great and also important contender for Manchester City and now I am not sure who could be the next to do that or whether Liverpool can retrieve that performance level.

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My Current Prediction for who to win the Premier League for next season is Liverpool
They had some challenges bit that didn't stop them from scoring goals
Improvement in midfied and defense can give them that Salah should just be fit

I disagree that Liverpool will win the Premier League title in the upcoming season, It's too early to make such predictions, and I'm still perplexed as to why you believe Liverpool deserves the championship despite the fact that they appear not to be taking this season very seriously and have Mohammed Salah as one of their key players right now, I see a lot of teams already haggling for players everyone is looking for the best. I have no idea what Chelsea is doing right now, which is hilarious if I were a fan of Chelsea, I would have switched to a better team a long time ago.

I really Respect the possible predictions that some people make according to their criteria, as far as I'm concerned I believe that things can be taken according to what their Teams can do by acquiring or selling players, and not just what they sold , They buy players but here the core of all this is that the tensos also influence the market now, I have seen teams that are anchored by their same technical directors for not knowing how to manage them, for example Chelsea, Bayern , Manchester United , these are variables that can always be Given , for such reasons it is also that I dare not give a Prediction.

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It sounds a little strange, I can't stop thinking that with Chelsea's current management, this team needs to improve much better but they seem very selfish.
If Chelsea don't let go of Mason Mount, it's precisely this team that will lose a lot and Mason Mount will leave freely next season while Mason Mount is also no longer wanted by the team.
The price of € 60.00 million - € 65.00 million is indeed very expensive for a player who doesn't develop with the Chelsea team, so it's only natural that Man United offers below that price.

Yes, it's true that this is a bit unreasonable, Chelsea should be able to take advantage of this opportunity to sell him, because if he doesn't sell him now, then most likely the Blues will be forced to let him go for free. Of course, Todd didn't want that to happen in the midst of the problems that hit his club. The management must be able to think again, by selling it now at least get additional money for capital in the upcoming transfer market even though the nominal is not in accordance with Chelsea's provisions. However, I've heard that Mason Mount does not want to stay at Chelsea any longer and has so far rejected any contract extensions that have been offered. With all his statements it is clear that the best solution is for Chelsea to let him go now if they don't want to miss out on his departure as a free agent.

It is that Chelsea's problem is not the players, Chelsea's problem and the coach, it is not possible that things like these that are from players are bad, for me the Chelsea roster is very good, but from the management Not technically, and Chelsea is incredible but because of that detail they haven't achieved a good performance and it usually looks so bad? Because here things with those players in any team do much more, but if Chelsea were to look for Zidane, I think they would do things much better, in fact he is a Taotla champion, both as a player and as a technical director, they should consider bringing him to them .

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It sounds a little strange, I can't stop thinking that with Chelsea's current management, this team needs to improve much better but they seem very selfish.
If Chelsea don't let go of Mason Mount, it's precisely this team that will lose a lot and Mason Mount will leave freely next season while Mason Mount is also no longer wanted by the team.
The price of € 60.00 million - € 65.00 million is indeed very expensive for a player who doesn't develop with the Chelsea team, so it's only natural that Man United offers below that price.

Yes, it's true that this is a bit unreasonable, Chelsea should be able to take advantage of this opportunity to sell him, because if he doesn't sell him now, then most likely the Blues will be forced to let him go for free. Of course, Todd didn't want that to happen in the midst of the problems that hit his club. The management must be able to think again, by selling it now at least get additional money for capital in the upcoming transfer market even though the nominal is not in accordance with Chelsea's provisions. However, I've heard that Mason Mount does not want to stay at Chelsea any longer and has so far rejected any contract extensions that have been offered. With all his statements it is clear that the best solution is for Chelsea to let him go now if they don't want to miss out on his departure as a free agent.

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Leicester city downtooled after an European season and a poor transfer window and it is the owners fault for not improving the squad.

maybe it's because there is an internal club problem that keeps them from updating their squad. and actually made them release several players who were of interest to other clubs. when you can't keep up with the growth of other teams, it will have a bad impact on the team, and that's what happened to Leicester. but reportedly they also get a new recruit for this season.

Some of people has been predict this situations because Leicester only know how to selling players but they didn't know how to regenerated their squad and since some of important players such as N’golo Kante, Danny Drinkwater, Riyad Mahrez, Harry Maguire and Ben Chilwell has been sell by Leicester they cannot able to bought decent players as the replacement of these players

And their condition were get worse after last season they cannot able to buy players because of financial condition and when other teams were very busy because bought the players to strengthen their squad but Leicester owner cannot provide the funds to Brendan Rodgers to buy some players and the affect is Leicester performance were decline even at the beginning of league Leicester has failed to wins 7 times in a row and indeed this is ironic that the former of Premier League Champion have to relegated and playing at championship division

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on June 23, 2023, 08:22:41 AM

Declan rice will have mo chances to win trophies once he will be going to the manchester city and he will have less chance to win trophy if he will be going to the arsenal.
Manchester city is back-to-back EPL champion. City was also getting UCL this season. The next trophy gonna be won by city once it will be able to beat sevilla in the match between UCL winner vs UEL winner.

Come on rice, pick the best one for you. Your choice, your future.

If Arsenal can't give a better offer than Manchester City, I believe Declan Rice will join Manchester City. This guy want a strong squad, Rice was from Ireland, he raised from there and he play for Ireland until 2018. But after then he changed his nationally become England, as we know England is stronger than Ireland.

If Rice is a player who really like a challenge, he would play for Ireland and not change his nationally.

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If i were rice and i will prefer to join in manchester city. The future in manchester city is quite bright rather than playing on arsenal. David james has been making correct points regarding what team that must become next team for declan rice.

Declan rice will have mo chances to win trophies once he will be going to the manchester city and he will have less chance to win trophy if he will be going to the arsenal.
Manchester city is back-to-back EPL champion. City was also getting UCL this season. The next trophy gonna be won by city once it will be able to beat sevilla in the match between UCL winner vs UEL winner.

Come on rice, pick the best one for you. Your choice, your future.

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Mane and Firmino have both left Liverpool and it will be difficult for Liverpool to replace their former two players as Mohamed Salah has previously been able to do well with their combination up front.
Now Liverpool must really look for two substitute players who can coordinate well with Salah so they can have a good front line.
But I heard that Liverpool are eyeing Ricardo Pepi to collaborate with Mohamed Salah.

Ricardo Pepi have not yet proving if his performance is stable, if Liverpool want to sign him, it's nothing difference like they sign Gakpo and Nunez where both of this players were good in one season. Pepi had a terrible result when he was in FC Augsburg, he played 16 matches without any score, similar like Mudryk played 15 matches in Chelsea without any score.

Indeed, Ricardo Pepi has not been able to prove that he can play stably and well.
I also see that Ricardo Pepi hasn't scored a single goal for the team he's currently joining.
I don't know what Liverpool's management was thinking so they wanted to bring in Ricardo Pepi, who is clearly still under the playing standard this season.
Actually there are some great players out there that are being traded, it's just that can Liverpool not afford to buy these great players to be able to strengthen their team.

Since the first time joined Chelsea I didn't believe in Mudryk and it's true that he can't do well for Chelsea. Cheesy

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Quote from: Avirunes on June 23, 2023, 07:01:46 AM

I think City actually did put a one year contract extension before Gundogan and Guardiola also wanted for him to stay but he chose new challenge to move to Barcelona. It was a "perfect" way to close his Manchester City chapter as he had a great last season scoring goals, given more freedom to attack and take shots, captain of the treble winning squad. Surely must have felt like achieving everything to him.

Barcelona is a new club for him so he will need time to adjust but he is a strong player. If Xavi has the right plans for him then he can definitely help Barcelona. As for City, it was bit unanticipated so they are looking for a new midfielder but given the players they have in midfield, I think City will also do fine.

Even though Man City has suffered the loss of a captain who was very important in winning trophies this season, Ilkay Gundogan is a tough guy and he believes in his decision to go anyway. And I believe that Pep Guardiola will definitely try to find the right replacement. Besides that, Pep Guardiola has many player options in his squad. Ilkay Gundogan journey at Barcelona is a new chapter and he is sure to gain the trust of Xavi to lead young players who are hungry for goals. So that this match can be seen how Ilkay Gundogan role can encourage young Barcelona players to achieve their ambitions.

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 23, 2023, 06:59:05 AM

I think these two clubs are in a very strange position for Mason Mount, Chelsea knew that their centre-forward Mason Mount was not going to renew his contract at Chelsea and Manchester United had already made two offers which were both rejected by Chelsea because a price had not yet been agreed.
Chelsea wants a price of € 60.00m-€ 65.00m, while Manchester United is rumored to be making a third offer which is also still below the price set by Chelsea, what the two clubs have done is at stake for Mason's career, if there is no agreement it is very likely that next season he will more on the Chelsea bench because usually clubs don't like players who have expressed their desire to leave the club.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1672158138093518848

It's a shame what Chelsea did and I understand why Chelsea wanted the transfer fee, of course, to make up for the losses they made last winter. But now the situation is going to get complicated because Mason Mount is definitely not passionate about playing for Chelsea anymore and as you said the bench is where he finally got when he was still with Chelsea. I think Manchester United don't want to be fooled by Chelsea, that's why they always bid below what Chelsea wants. I hope there will be a real solution for Mason Mount before the summer closes.

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 23, 2023, 06:59:05 AM

I think these two clubs are in a very strange position for Mason Mount, Chelsea knew that their centre-forward Mason Mount was not going to renew his contract at Chelsea and Manchester United had already made two offers which were both rejected by Chelsea because a price had not yet been agreed.
Chelsea wants a price of € 60.00m-€ 65.00m, while Manchester United is rumored to be making a third offer which is also still below the price set by Chelsea, what the two clubs have done is at stake for Mason's career, if there is no agreement it is very likely that next season he will more on the Chelsea bench because usually clubs don't like players who have expressed their desire to leave the club.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1672158138093518848

Its high time United planned and signed this crucial player, he's a top target for them. Mason Mount is one of Chelsea's few remaining players, and his departure would result in a loss for the club. Mason Mount continues to put pressure on the club to let him leave Stamford Bridge after his demands were not reached. Manchester United has already made two bids for the Englishman, but both have been rejected by Chelsea, with the blues asking for an increase in their bids to match the £65 million, while the red devils would make a final bid in excess of £55 million.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on June 23, 2023, 04:35:30 AM

Pep Guardiola wanted Ilkay to stay in the team. But an agreement could not be reached between Ilkay and club managers. In fact, I haven't even seen an offer made to Ilkay by Manchester City club managers. But Pep and all the fans were declaring that Ilkay should stay in Manchester City. I think club managers have firm principles on such matters. Ilkay showed a good performance on the field this season. But being 32 years old, he may not have met the club's principles. Now Ilkay's performance in his new team is a matter of curiosity for me. Likewise, the performance of the Manchester City midfield is a matter of curiosity for me.

I think City actually did put a one year contract extension before Gundogan and Guardiola also wanted for him to stay but he chose new challenge to move to Barcelona. It was a "perfect" way to close his Manchester City chapter as he had a great last season scoring goals, given more freedom to attack and take shots, captain of the treble winning squad. Surely must have felt like achieving everything to him.

Barcelona is a new club for him so he will need time to adjust but he is a strong player. If Xavi has the right plans for him then he can definitely help Barcelona. As for City, it was bit unanticipated so they are looking for a new midfielder but given the players they have in midfield, I think City will also do fine.

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I think these two clubs are in a very strange position for Mason Mount, Chelsea knew that their centre-forward Mason Mount was not going to renew his contract at Chelsea and Manchester United had already made two offers which were both rejected by Chelsea because a price had not yet been agreed.
Chelsea wants a price of € 60.00m-€ 65.00m, while Manchester United is rumored to be making a third offer which is also still below the price set by Chelsea, what the two clubs have done is at stake for Mason's career, if there is no agreement it is very likely that next season he will more on the Chelsea bench because usually clubs don't like players who have expressed their desire to leave the club.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1672158138093518848

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As a scorer, Haaland is head and shoulders above everyone else now plus City are dominating and Liverpool had a very bad season so I don't think it makes sense to compare them. If next season Liverpool is normal, then perhaps Nunez will even compete with Haaland for the top 1, because despite the fantastic start and many records, Haaland scored only 6 goals more than Kane, who plays for the miserable Tottenham.

"Haaland Scored only 6 goals more than Kane, who plays for the miserable Tottenham"
Come on, mate. It doesn't matter which club he played for, this was a first timer in the Premier League, let's give credit where due.

Where has Kane been all that long to score even that many goals that he did last season?

Surely Haaland would score as many if he played for Everton or Bournemouth? Haaland scores a lot everywhere, but obviously it's much easier to do so at a dominant City (even if it's the first season in the Premier League) than at a club that doesn't outperform the competition. I'm not saying that anyone is bad, I'm saying that under certain circumstances, many players will be able to prove themselves, but right now Haaland had the best opportunity.

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Quote from: ampere on June 23, 2023, 06:15:55 AM

Leicester city downtooled after an European season and a poor transfer window and it is the owners fault for not improving the squad.

maybe it's because there is an internal club problem that keeps them from updating their squad. and actually made them release several players who were of interest to other clubs. when you can't keep up with the growth of other teams, it will have a bad impact on the team, and that's what happened to Leicester. but reportedly they also get a new recruit for this season.

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