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Chelsea is actually very good at recruiting star players, Chelsea's only fault is in the coaches and club management who like to change coaches. not a useless player, but a Chelsea coach who can't maximize the potential of players. It's like what you mentioned Aubameyang and Kai havertz who said they were useless for Chelsea. Look at the goals that have resulted in titles in the past... See also Mohammed Salah and KDB being thrown out of Chelsea, what will become of KDB now at Man city?

Pochettino includes the courage to train Chelsea, he is not worried about being fired via telephone like Tuchel who has presented the UCL. can he last long?

Chelsea changed a lot after the British government forced Roman Arkadyevich Abramovich out of Chelsea as owner. Then Todd Boehly took over the club as the new owner which in the end made many changes on the management side. Todd Boehly was desperate to bring instant glory to Chelsea in his first season but the truth is that everything he's done this season hasn't turned out well.

Actually chelsea was damaged by the FA and the English government itself. Where FIFA also imposed double rules because of the Invasion which had absolutely nothing to do with football.
Yes. That's right, building a strong team doesn't necessarily happen instantly, everything needs a process, that's Todd Boehly's mistake when he first took over ownership of Chelsea. Chelsea should need to learn from Man City, they need how many seasons to win the UCL league trophy.

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I'm not entirely surprised how Chelsea have been this season because they are essentially in transition. It takes several seasons to build a good team and collaboration both internally and externally, and this will be achieved by Chelsea in the following seasons.

Transitional periods are indeed difficult and take time, it is difficult to build chemistry and adapt to each other is a real problem for Chelsea due to the large number of new players who have entered. But I don't think Pochettino can change Chelsea. My suggestion is that Chelsea management should call Marina Granovskaia and Peter Cech again. they are both important figures in the club. Moreover, Granovskaia is smart in making all decisions regarding player transfer policies.

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I think it is not that much difficult given how Guardiola has managed City ever since he took over as manager. He has made then PL champions 5 times out of 7 seasons and that really shows the kind of spectacular record Guardiola hold rights now. I think in 8-9 seasons he can make them equal to United if things goes like this. City are in control in whichever way you see and despite United and Newcastle improving, I don't see them getting dominant the way City are right now. I would say its very much achievable if Guardiola says for long term.

I think Manchester City could perform as good as they did in the just concluded season and perhaps, go ahead to win the premier league title again next season. Pep has really done a lot to change the fortunes of the club and I believe that if he remains with the club, he could go ahead to win more premier league trophies as well as other trophies.
Thanks to Pep, I see Manchester City as a disciplined club that would remain dominant in their games come next season. I know It’s a bit still early to tell but Manchester City has a really good chance of retaining their title again next season.

So far I see that Manchester City is a consistent team under Pep Guardiola, even since the first time Pep Guardiola joined. So it's not wrong to say Manchester City will probably be a top contender in the Premier League next season with their very stable squad because they have the capital to do that. I can even say they are the best team right now in the Premier League or even in Europe.
From the squad they have, it's clear they have managed to build a solid foundation so that they can easily do something and when new players arrive they can adapt well, and that's because they have the foundation that Pep Guardiola managed to build.
With their success in winning the treble winner this season, I'm sure they will be even more motivated and want to achieve the same thing even more in the coming season.

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Quote from: Mame89 on June 16, 2023, 09:01:05 AM

Chelsea is actually very good at recruiting star players, Chelsea's only fault is in the coaches and club management who like to change coaches. not a useless player, but a Chelsea coach who can't maximize the potential of players. It's like what you mentioned Aubameyang and Kai havertz who said they were useless for Chelsea. Look at the goals that have resulted in titles in the past... See also Mohammed Salah and KDB being thrown out of Chelsea, what will become of KDB now at Man city?

If you say it like that, it means that the one who deserves more blame is the club management, not the coach. Because every coach must have his own way of training a team so that the time needed is also different for each coach and from what you have said, the peak of the mistake was the management of the Chelsea club itself, which was inconsistent in retaining existing coaches.

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Pochettino includes the courage to train Chelsea, he is not worried about being fired via telephone like Tuchel who has presented the UCL. can he last long?

It's a new coach again for Chelsea and in general no one knows how long he can stay at Chelsea, because he will only work next season as a coach at Chelsea so every result and assessment will be seen in next season. Although Chelsea fans hope that Chelsea can make a better performance again next season.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on June 16, 2023, 09:59:00 AM

Chelsea changed a lot after the British government forced Roman Arkadyevich Abramovich out of Chelsea as owner. Then Todd Boehly took over the club as the new owner which in the end made many changes on the management side. Todd Boehly was desperate to bring instant glory to Chelsea in his first season but the truth is that everything he's done this season hasn't turned out well.

In finance, they are still rich and spent lot of money for transfers in the last season. A biggest change in Chelsea is vision to develop the club which is not good under their current owner, Boehly. He does not have a good vision like Abramovich and it is harmful for Chelsea. Buying many players with very expensive cost like overpaid but they failed to buy players who match with their club tactics and current players they have.

Those new players failed to adapt to the club tactics and team-mates, it plus with bad choices for their coach position from Potter to Lampard, only makes thing worse.

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I'm not entirely surprised how Chelsea have been this season because they are essentially in transition. It takes several seasons to build a good team and collaboration both internally and externally, and this will be achieved by Chelsea in the following seasons.

It changed a lot from winning Champions League with Tuchel, then sacking Tuchel and hiring Potter. They made many mistakes that all contributed to their bad performance in the past season. They must change it with Pochettino who is a better coach than Potter and Lampard. However, their transfer in this summer must be done better.

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Quote from: Mame89 on June 16, 2023, 09:01:05 AM

Chelsea is actually very good at recruiting star players, Chelsea's only fault is in the coaches and club management who like to change coaches. not a useless player, but a Chelsea coach who can't maximize the potential of players. It's like what you mentioned Aubameyang and Kai havertz who said they were useless for Chelsea. Look at the goals that have resulted in titles in the past... See also Mohammed Salah and KDB being thrown out of Chelsea, what will become of KDB now at Man city?

Pochettino includes the courage to train Chelsea, he is not worried about being fired via telephone like Tuchel who has presented the UCL. can he last long?

Chelsea changed a lot after the British government forced Roman Arkadyevich Abramovich out of Chelsea as owner. Then Todd Boehly took over the club as the new owner which in the end made many changes on the management side. Todd Boehly was desperate to bring instant glory to Chelsea in his first season but the truth is that everything he's done this season hasn't turned out well.

I'm not entirely surprised how Chelsea have been this season because they are essentially in transition. It takes several seasons to build a good team and collaboration both internally and externally, and this will be achieved by Chelsea in the following seasons.

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The end of de gea's journey in manchester united. The recent news said that if de gea will be leaving from manchester united in summer.

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1669689873320607746

So many fans are willing to see him stay even longer in manchester united, but he knew that if united was looking for a new goal keeper to replace his position. De gea may be fully benched in the upcoming season. I think this is the main reason why de gea will be leaving from manchester united in summer.
MU is trying to get onana from intermilan as a new goal keeper.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on June 16, 2023, 04:20:18 AM

Liverpool is a team of the size of the English Premier League but they have completely failed to show their best this season. We never expect such a performance from a team like Liverpool.

Since Liverpool could not shine in the Premier League in the 2022/23 season, maybe Liverpool is making a different plan for the next season. But we cannot say that they will win the league title next season. Because there are several other strong teams in the English Premier League apart from Liverpool who are favorites to win the league title.

Manchester City, Arsenal, Newcastle United, Chelsea, Manchester United can be tough opponents for Liverpool.

In last season, we have too many mistakes from Jürgen Klopp and injuries were also issued for them which bring them down badly but now in coming season they need to be on spot if they want to compete with these all big clubs because suddenly competition level is rise and many clubs are doing more than expectations so if they want to stay into better spot than surely need to increase performance level and quality as well.

We have three big clubs down and out with Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool but now in coming season mostly feeling two can fight back but how they manage this all is never been easy because opponents are also having enough resources for competing with them and staying into same level for the next season as well know how things will be gone it's surely interesting to watch from August when we will have new season.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 16, 2023, 07:47:03 AM

I don't remember the rumors about Chelsea before Pochettino joins this team but from what I can see on transfermarkt there are already many players they linked to Chelsea however I guess these players are not in the pochettino's list because the rumors are mostly old.

That source is very inaccurate, there are reliable sources to get accurate transfer info, but not this one. Just seeing Vinicius Junior and Oscar on that list is enough to tell you how fake it is, i don't even think Chelsea are after any of those players in that list, neither were they in recent past, all of it is just rumors.

According to Fabrizio Romano, Chelsea are very interested in Brighton's Moises Caiseido, and talks between the player's side and Chelsea is advancing pretty well, i think what is left is an agreement in transfer fee with Brighton. This is one of the latest accurate transfer info as regards Chelsea right now.

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Quote from: salad daging on June 16, 2023, 09:32:15 AM

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Chelsea is actually very good at recruiting star players, Chelsea's only fault is in the coaches and club management who like to change coaches. not a useless player, but a Chelsea coach who can't maximize the potential of players. It's like what you mentioned Aubameyang and Kai havertz who said they were useless for Chelsea. Look at the goals that have resulted in titles in the past... See also Mohammed Salah and KDB being thrown out of Chelsea, what will become of KDB now at Man city?

What if Tuchel hadn't been sacked maybe the situation wouldn't be like it is today, while Potter and Lampard didn't match the expectations that the club management wanted, on the other hand the recruitment of many Chelsea players in the previous season also spent a lot of money and even more spending from Chelsea than the team Another EPL, so indeed this problem must be solved immediately so that the Chelsea club is not at the bottom of the standings anymore.

After seeing how bad Chelsea's management was, not only when selecting players but also hiring a coach, you could say it was careless and you didn't think about how much bigger Chelsea was than hiring an incompetent coach. Until now, everyone has been confused by the Chelsea owner himself who often makes insignificant decisions, spends big money, buys unknown players and now the big responsibility has been placed on Pochettino. So there's nothing to see of any growth because Pochettino needs a long time. Therefore, like it or not, when Chelsea is required to develop significantly, the impact will be Pochettino who will be the target of fans.

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Quote from: Mame89 on June 16, 2023, 09:01:05 AM

Chelsea is actually very good at recruiting star players, Chelsea's only fault is in the coaches and club management who like to change coaches. not a useless player, but a Chelsea coach who can't maximize the potential of players. It's like what you mentioned Aubameyang and Kai havertz who said they were useless for Chelsea. Look at the goals that have resulted in titles in the past... See also Mohammed Salah and KDB being thrown out of Chelsea, what will become of KDB now at Man city?

What if Tuchel hadn't been sacked maybe the situation wouldn't be like it is today, while Potter and Lampard didn't match the expectations that the club management wanted, on the other hand the recruitment of many Chelsea players in the previous season also spent a lot of money and even more spending from Chelsea than the team Another EPL, so indeed this problem must be solved immediately so that the Chelsea club is not at the bottom of the standings anymore.

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Pochettino includes the courage to train Chelsea, he is not worried about being fired via telephone like Tuchel who has presented the UCL. can he last long?

We don't know Pochettino's journey yet. I will not conclude that he is brave enough to take over Chelsea, but that is his job. If Pochettino is likely to be sacked, the Chelsea management will definitely do it again.

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Quote from: Avirunes on June 16, 2023, 07:16:06 AM

I think it is not that much difficult given how Guardiola has managed City ever since he took over as manager. He has made then PL champions 5 times out of 7 seasons and that really shows the kind of spectacular record Guardiola hold rights now. I think in 8-9 seasons he can make them equal to United if things goes like this. City are in control in whichever way you see and despite United and Newcastle improving, I don't see them getting dominant the way City are right now. I would say its very much achievable if Guardiola says for long term.

I think Manchester City could perform as good as they did in the just concluded season and perhaps, go ahead to win the premier league title again next season. Pep has really done a lot to change the fortunes of the club and I believe that if he remains with the club, he could go ahead to win more premier league trophies as well as other trophies.
Thanks to Pep, I see Manchester City as a disciplined club that would remain dominant in their games come next season. I know It’s a bit still early to tell but Manchester City has a really good chance of retaining their title again next season.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on June 16, 2023, 01:45:58 AM

I have hope that Liverpool will get it right next season to embrace the premier league title, because their coach will not allow what happened in this season to happen next season, because Liverpool president is not happy about the result they got in this season. I don't think, Liverpool coach will miss this last opportunity given to him to improve Liverpool because there are many talented strikers on ground who can fill that sadio mane position to allow Salah and other potential players to displayed well next season. Based on the plan on ground against next season, I don't think it will be easy for Manchester city to win the trophy next season because many teams are spending money to get potential players against next season.

Last season Klopp is too confident with his squad and that's why Liverpool didn't buy much players at that time but beyond the prediction that Liverpool has facing injured storm which make Liverpool performance were decline but apparently Klopp has been learn from his mistakes because this summer Klopp were very active to buy new players to strengthen Liverpool squad and apparently midfield sides could be his main concern this because last season Liverpool is so weak from this sides

And Klopp has been attempts to regeneration Liverpool squad and it proved from Liverpool new players who mostly categorized as youngsters but about premier league title i don't think Liverpool will be counted as strong contender considering other teams such as Arsenal, Manchester United or Manchester City will be stronger than last season but i am sure at least Liverpool can able reach to top 4 and return to play at champion league again

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Quote from: xzone on June 16, 2023, 08:38:40 AM

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Chasing Manchester United premier league win will be very difficult or impossible to achieve, atleast in this our time. 6 English Premier League trophies means 6 seasons and looking at it, the highest Manchester City can go before being dethroned as the indisputable champions of England is 1 or 2 seasons. If you look very well, Newcastle is just building and Manchester United is gradually coming back to form and Liverpool is there to always contest. There will be a time the reign of Manchester City will also come to an end.

I think it is not that much difficult given how Guardiola has managed City ever since he took over as manager. He has made then PL champions 5 times out of 7 seasons and that really shows the kind of spectacular record Guardiola hold rights now. I think in 8-9 seasons he can make them equal to United if things goes like this. City are in control in whichever way you see and despite United and Newcastle improving, I don't see them getting dominant the way City are right now. I would say its very much achievable if Guardiola says for long term.

If Guardiola continues to manage this team for a long time, he can do as you say. But he has been managing for 7 years, how many more years will he want to continue in this team? I think after a while he might get bored and want to move to a different team or retire.
Guardiola's influence on the team is huge, the reason the team is at its current level is not just because it has good players. Pep's effort to hold the team together and his tactical success is too great to ignore

However, I believe that when Manchester City fail to win the title in a few seasons and or experience a drop in form then of course Pep Guardiola will leave. Indeed, at this moment or maybe in the next one to two seasons Manchester City can still compete well in the title race. But yes, because Newcastle and Manchester United are already owned by wealthy businessmen, of course, these two teams will also be able to get better in the future. Therefore, I believe that Manchester City will not be at the top forever and it will not be forever either, Pep Guardiola is at Manchester City.

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Quote from: xzone on June 16, 2023, 08:38:40 AM

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Chasing Manchester United premier league win will be very difficult or impossible to achieve, atleast in this our time. 6 English Premier League trophies means 6 seasons and looking at it, the highest Manchester City can go before being dethroned as the indisputable champions of England is 1 or 2 seasons. If you look very well, Newcastle is just building and Manchester United is gradually coming back to form and Liverpool is there to always contest. There will be a time the reign of Manchester City will also come to an end.

I think it is not that much difficult given how Guardiola has managed City ever since he took over as manager. He has made then PL champions 5 times out of 7 seasons and that really shows the kind of spectacular record Guardiola hold rights now. I think in 8-9 seasons he can make them equal to United if things goes like this. City are in control in whichever way you see and despite United and Newcastle improving, I don't see them getting dominant the way City are right now. I would say its very much achievable if Guardiola says for long term.

If Guardiola continues to manage this team for a long time, he can do as you say. But he has been managing for 7 years, how many more years will he want to continue in this team? I think after a while he might get bored and want to move to a different team or retire.
Guardiola's influence on the team is huge, the reason the team is at its current level is not just because it has good players. Pep's effort to hold the team together and his tactical success is too great to ignore

It's true that Guardiola has achieved his target of helping Manchester City win the UCL and most likely the coach will be looking for a new adventure but the Manchester City team has been built on very strong foundations so even if Guardiola leaves I'm sure the team will still be in good form even if not as strong however, there is no significant decrease.

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Quote from: Luzin on June 16, 2023, 05:11:39 AM

One of the problems that occurs is that managers are constantly changing. Remember they are managed by three different managers in one season so that the balance of the team is ruined. The selection of managers is also very poor, they don't seem to have better criteria. They seemed to be in a hurry. Another view is that they don't have a great No. 9 striker. Kai Havertz appeared unstable, Aubameyang was also rarely trusted by coaches. Let's wait for this season's transfer what Pochettino will do. Of course they have a lot of money ready to be used for shopping.

Chelsea is actually very good at recruiting star players, Chelsea's only fault is in the coaches and club management who like to change coaches. not a useless player, but a Chelsea coach who can't maximize the potential of players. It's like what you mentioned Aubameyang and Kai havertz who said they were useless for Chelsea. Look at the goals that have resulted in titles in the past... See also Mohammed Salah and KDB being thrown out of Chelsea, what will become of KDB now at Man city?

Pochettino includes the courage to train Chelsea, he is not worried about being fired via telephone like Tuchel who has presented the UCL. can he last long?

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Quote from: Docnaster on June 16, 2023, 06:15:17 AM

Chasing Manchester United premier league win will be very difficult or impossible to achieve, atleast in this our time. 6 English Premier League trophies means 6 seasons and looking at it, the highest Manchester City can go before being dethroned as the indisputable champions of England is 1 or 2 seasons. If you look very well, Newcastle is just building and Manchester United is gradually coming back to form and Liverpool is there to always contest. There will be a time the reign of Manchester City will also come to an end.

I think it is not that much difficult given how Guardiola has managed City ever since he took over as manager. He has made then PL champions 5 times out of 7 seasons and that really shows the kind of spectacular record Guardiola hold rights now. I think in 8-9 seasons he can make them equal to United if things goes like this. City are in control in whichever way you see and despite United and Newcastle improving, I don't see them getting dominant the way City are right now. I would say its very much achievable if Guardiola says for long term.

If Guardiola continues to manage this team for a long time, he can do as you say. But he has been managing for 7 years, how many more years will he want to continue in this team? I think after a while he might get bored and want to move to a different team or retire.
Guardiola's influence on the team is huge, the reason the team is at its current level is not just because it has good players. Pep's effort to hold the team together and his tactical success is too great to ignore

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Chelsea did spend too much money last season to bring in all the talented young players and they shouldn't have to be hasty in making these purchases if in the end Chelsea change coaches for one season. Now Pochettino's arrival will indeed give a new color to Chelsea and of course, as you said, every coach will only need players who are felt to meet the standard strategy that he will provide.

Chelsea's mistakes are indeed very difficult to accept and therefore now the players will start to be sold in the summer. Regarding Mason Mount, it seems that he is not comfortable at Chelsea and the salary does not seem to make him want to stay at Chelsea. There will be many replacements for Mount later and Chelsea don't seem too bothered by that.

What I see is that they buy players based on their likes and not based on the abilities of the players they need, so that makes buying their players look like a waste and not contributing to the team. Indeed, they should make an overhaul in their squad and start sorting out the players they will keep and also start looking at which players they will bring in for next season.
They have to lay the groundwork from scratch, because this season they are so messy and it's impossible to continue. If not then they will probably feel the same way this season. There is still time for them to build a solid foundation.

Todd Boehly take over started this mess-up here in Chelsea as he bought 17 players first under Thomas Tuchel and then Graham Potter but both time his interference create problems and both coaches sacked now third full time coach is arrived, and they need to sell few players immediately which bring some positive things even mostly players were well known in UEFA clubs, but still results were not as par requirement because coaches fail to set winning unit which was main issue now they need to start from scratch and also have to allow coach to do things by his own instead of interference by management because this will bring stability and better results.

Hopefully now new coach will be done better things and try to set players which will give him better results many are already going to be listed even this is going to be lost for them because now mostly players are having decline into their market value, but this is important for the rebuilt.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 16, 2023, 07:30:53 AM

As for Arsenal being interested in Havertz, that's pretty good, it's just that this will get complicated when Chelsea start increasing their transfer fee. We know Chelsea don't want to lose this time because they have already spent so much on buying new players and the total range is 500 million euros for last winter.

Now Chelsea are going to sell some of their players and it's not surprising that Arsenal want to bring in Havertz, of course they have a good strategy to maximize the talent they have. I still don't know how much transfer fee Chelsea want and if they want Havertz with the equivalent of over 50 million euros I think it's still too expensive.

This action is one of Chelsea's overhaul steps by selling several of its players. It wouldn't be right for Harvertz to stay with the Blues because he wouldn't be able to get anything anyway. I think by joining Arsenal he will be able to further develop his talent and career, Arsenal are a young team who are quite solid in their game, and they are way above Chelsea. It is very likely that he will be able to achieve some achievements if he chooses to join the Gunners. Chelsea reportedly opened a selling price for Harvertz in the region of 60 million euros, I agree with you that this price is too high. Real Madrid have abandoned Harvertz's hunt due to the exorbitant price tag and now Arsenal are negotiating with Chelsea to lower the price a bit.

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Quote from: len01 on June 16, 2023, 06:55:07 AM

maybe for the next few seasons there will be intense competition between top teams like Man City who are currently in a very strong state and on the other hand Man United has plans to return with stronger performance to win the first premier league championship. on the other hand, Newcastle and Liverpool are also in very good form and these two teams are also planning to get rid of the positions of Man United and Man City.
so in the new season there will be very interesting competition in the english league, but i'm not sure man city will end this season or even get stronger.

Yes of course, because the premier league is like that, will be intense competition between top teams from season to season. The title race is also getting more and more interesting, several big clubs have improved over time. There is still the possibility of another team to win the title, although in the previous season Manchester City win the title, but next season maybe not and they might struggle, who knows. By the way about Manchester United this is interesting, because Ten Hag currently targeting several talented players, maybe will make his team more stronger yes. Manchester United the previous season also they were really consistent, they had an impressive record when playing at home, and I think next season they can do it again Sir.

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I don't remember the rumors about Chelsea before Pochettino joins this team but from what I can see on transfermarkt there are already many players they linked to Chelsea however I guess these players are not in the pochettino's list because the rumors are mostly old.
Pochettino is probably getting the list ready for the next season because there is still nothing new.

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