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Quote from: SatoPrincess on December 06, 2022, 03:19:06 AM

There are still enough games for Liverpool to make a come back and revive their league hopes for the season. With just 14 games already played in the league this season there are 24 more games to play which should be enough to get back into the game and still finish in top four. I am not so much concerned about Newcastle being in the top four position because I have a feeling they will have a bad form and drop points.

I feel like there are enough games left for them to fight for a third place, but the first and second is decided on my mind. I know that it is not decided yet, and I know that people will keep on wanting more and more, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with any change just because I might be wrong. I feel like Arsenal and City will be one and two, which one will be the winner is unknown but they will be the one and two at the end of the season.

This means that the best that is left right now is third position which could potentially maybe happen for Liverpool but even for that they need to make sure that they are playing a lot better.

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Quote from: Davian144 on December 06, 2022, 07:41:49 AM

Quote from: SatoPrincess on December 06, 2022, 03:19:06 AM

There are still enough games for Liverpool to make a come back and revive their league hopes for the season. With just 14 games already played in the league this season there are 24 more games to play which should be enough to get back into the game and still finish in top four. I am not so much concerned about Newcastle being in the top four position because I have a feeling they will have a bad form and drop points.

In terms of the number of matches that are still quite a lot, it is still very possible for Liverpool to rise and get a better position. But that doesn't mean the others will be worse because all the teams also want to maintain their current position and try to keep getting up so they won't be easily beaten by any of their opponents. And I don't think anyone can judge right away that a team will perform badly after the world cup. For example like you said for Newcastle.

Right, even though Liverpool can recover, but if other competing teams can also maintain their performance and position in the standings, then it will still be difficult for Liverpool to return to the top four. Unless the competing teams or teams in the top four are currently unable to be consistent and continue to get bad results, then Liverpool could easily be back in the top four.
Also, I'm just reminding you not to underestimate Newcastle too much, because they have improved from last season and this season Newcastle can still maintain their good performance.

Therefore, with the good performance that has been able to be maintained by Newcastle, then of course I personally will not be able to doubt Newcastle this season. In fact I believe Newcastle will be able to be above Manchester City and may also be a strong contender in the title race.
Anyway, I personally cannot underestimate Newcastle because with them being the richest team, of course, Newcastle also has a big chance to become a strong team in the Premier League.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on December 06, 2022, 03:19:06 AM

There are still enough games for Liverpool to make a come back and revive their league hopes for the season. With just 14 games already played in the league this season there are 24 more games to play which should be enough to get back into the game and still finish in top four. I am not so much concerned about Newcastle being in the top four position because I have a feeling they will have a bad form and drop points.

In terms of the number of matches that are still quite a lot, it is still very possible for Liverpool to rise and get a better position. But that doesn't mean the others will be worse because all the teams also want to maintain their current position and try to keep getting up so they won't be easily beaten by any of their opponents. And I don't think anyone can judge right away that a team will perform badly after the world cup. For example like you said for Newcastle.

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There are still enough games for Liverpool to make a come back and revive their league hopes for the season. With just 14 games already played in the league this season there are 24 more games to play which should be enough to get back into the game and still finish in top four. I am not so much concerned about Newcastle being in the top four position because I have a feeling they will have a bad form and drop points.

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of course a team will go through a long process to become stronger than what happened to them before. but additional players are the first option to improve the quality of the current team even we saw newcastle united also made a big improvement in the last summer window and it seems they are doing a better job now. West Ham will most likely be able to make improvements in the winter window because for now we see them to be in 16th place in the standings with a collection of points that are quite close to teams who are in the relegation zone.

Newcastle has always practiced well to improve teamwork which until now has been the key to victory for Newcastle, at least Newcastle has proven that they are capable of winning and there is still potential to win first place. It is likely that when the transfer market is open then Newcastle will try to add new players again to strengthen the team they have.

I would say the best teamwork we have seen this season is between the Newcastle players. In second place I will put Arsenal team. Newcastle have no star players. Newcastle have improved tremendously this season simply because of the understanding between the players and the confidence they have. They are able to play well in every match.

Now Newcastle need some very talented players. Newcastle's defense is very strong. They need more talented forwards and regular scorers. If Newcastle strengthen their attack in the next winter transfer window, then Newcastle's team performance will improve even more.

Newcastle United team seems to be the best team for me in English Premier League. That team don't depend on any one man or two to deliver the team. Each and everyone of them are up and doing in their respective wings.
What will make you to understand that Newcastle team is powerful is when they begin to occupy England best eleven every week. You will see two or three Newcastle players every week in that squad. That shows they are doing well.

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Manchester city are indeed a team to emulate in the EPL, since the take over by Seikh Mansour a lot has changed in terms of financial capabilities of the club, they are able to sign preferred players of their choice which has brought about a positive change and impact to the squad. This Manchester City is far much better than it was before Seikh Mansour takeover.

Arsenal is trying to emulate Manchester City and it is working for them, they are getting good results. If arsenal tries to win the Premier league this season it can be the end for Manchester cityto be winning the championship often. Manchester City is a good team to emulate but not all Club can pay the price.

Manchester City still has a greater squad and more money than Arsenal; they only have a few bad games, which puts them second behind Arsenal, but there is no doubt that they are the top and best team in the world.
If Arsenal can find the consistency to win the Premier League title this season, it will be another challenge for Manchester City, as they will try to restructure their squad again, as will other teams, making the Premier League more competitive.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on December 05, 2022, 06:24:12 PM

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of course a team will go through a long process to become stronger than what happened to them before. but additional players are the first option to improve the quality of the current team even we saw newcastle united also made a big improvement in the last summer window and it seems they are doing a better job now. West Ham will most likely be able to make improvements in the winter window because for now we see them to be in 16th place in the standings with a collection of points that are quite close to teams who are in the relegation zone.

Newcastle has always practiced well to improve teamwork which until now has been the key to victory for Newcastle, at least Newcastle has proven that they are capable of winning and there is still potential to win first place. It is likely that when the transfer market is open then Newcastle will try to add new players again to strengthen the team they have.

I would say the best teamwork we have seen this season is between the Newcastle players. In second place I will put Arsenal team. Newcastle have no star players. Newcastle have improved tremendously this season simply because of the understanding between the players and the confidence they have. They are able to play well in every match.

Now Newcastle need some very talented players. Newcastle's defense is very strong. They need more talented forwards and regular scorers. If Newcastle strengthen their attack in the next winter transfer window, then Newcastle's team performance will improve even more.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on December 05, 2022, 06:09:31 PM

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The hardest part about the top four for other teams is that Liverpool is still there, and they are not sure what's going to happen. They are at 22 points with 14 games, assuming lets say it became 25 points with 15 games, that's 4 points away from top four.

Now, the question is that will they be moving forward with everything that they have and win more games than others and disrupt that top four and get in there? Or will they end up playing badly again and not get in there. If they somehow do get in top four, then it is Arsenal and City and Liverpool, leaving just one team available for there, and that's a tough question to answer. You never know, this is last years almost champions in both premier league and ucl, so anything could happen.

Liverpool will definitely improve higher after the break, because they will not allow that poor performance continue with them than to put more effort to ensure they score more goals to improve their points. I think, anything can still happen that will make Liverpool to return back to second position in this premier league table, because their players are very ready to apply strategies that will make them to achieve victory in their remaining matches. I don't think, Arsenal will continue with that first position in the premier league table after the break, because Manchester city will definitely collect that position after the FIFA world cup competition.

This season Liverpool have been trying to be consistent in the English premier league. It is under probability to see Liverpool betting after the world cup. Liverpool is unpredictable this season I'm not too sure if performing can still maintain their performance after world cup.

That's true the team have very unstable preformence and they clearly proved this after defeating Manchester city, they have no other choice but restarting with better spirit and confidence after the world cup because i don't think the problem is in players quality or coach but they simply lost confidence after the bad results in the first rounds

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Quote from: Google+ on December 05, 2022, 03:21:03 PM

of course a team will go through a long process to become stronger than what happened to them before. but additional players are the first option to improve the quality of the current team even we saw newcastle united also made a big improvement in the last summer window and it seems they are doing a better job now. West Ham will most likely be able to make improvements in the winter window because for now we see them to be in 16th place in the standings with a collection of points that are quite close to teams who are in the relegation zone.

Newcastle has always practiced well to improve teamwork which until now has been the key to victory for Newcastle, at least Newcastle has proven that they are capable of winning and there is still potential to win first place. It is likely that when the transfer market is open then Newcastle will try to add new players again to strengthen the team they have.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 05, 2022, 05:58:13 PM

But to do this easier they need to have a successful season. Especially if they manage to qualify for the Champions League it would be very beneficial for them to convince top players to sign for them.

I second that, Newcastle have the funds required to sign world class players, they can afford just about anyone but they can't allure world class players just yet because the club is not as of yet competitive for trophies, and they aren't playing in the CL. But they could make their job for next summer transfer window pretty easier depending on how they finish this season. It is extremely difficult for Newcastle to finish in the top four, but i imagine if they can possibly pull that off, they would thus have it easier convincing very decent players to join them next summer. A place in the Europa League wouldn't be bad, but they would still be unable to get some kind of quality players if they are in the Europa League.

Having said that, Newcastle's new status in terms of money they have will take some time before it pushes them to be contenders for the EPL, they first have to build a reputation for themselves and be a club that decent players would want to represent; thus far this season i'd say Eddie Howe is doing absolutely that, and i am pretty sure the club hierarchy will be pleased with what they are seeing, even without having to spend large just yet.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 05, 2022, 03:11:19 PM

It will be a really challenging time period for Newcastle when it comes to keeping their presence in top 4. Maybe some big teams have had bad days so far but the second half of the season might not be the same. Liverpool, Manchester United and Chelsea all have a chance to fight more seriously for top 4 in the rest of the season. We aren't even in the middle of the season technically.

Their position might still be safe if we see the next few matches. They should be able to win the next game in a row, on paper, they are stronger. Later, when they have to play against Arsenal, maybe this will determine whether they will be overtaken by Tottenham or not. They have to try as much as possible, moreover, their points are only a point different from Tottenham's. It will not be easy to maintain the position. Unless Tottenham also loses in the next match.

Man United may have been struggling very well so far. But don't know what will happen after the World Cup. But here, Liverpool and Chelsea, are really hard positions. They must take over Man United to be able to be in the top 5 and qualify for the next UCL.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on December 04, 2022, 11:46:37 PM

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The hardest part about the top four for other teams is that Liverpool is still there, and they are not sure what's going to happen. They are at 22 points with 14 games, assuming lets say it became 25 points with 15 games, that's 4 points away from top four.

Now, the question is that will they be moving forward with everything that they have and win more games than others and disrupt that top four and get in there? Or will they end up playing badly again and not get in there. If they somehow do get in top four, then it is Arsenal and City and Liverpool, leaving just one team available for there, and that's a tough question to answer. You never know, this is last years almost champions in both premier league and ucl, so anything could happen.

Liverpool will definitely improve higher after the break, because they will not allow that poor performance continue with them than to put more effort to ensure they score more goals to improve their points. I think, anything can still happen that will make Liverpool to return back to second position in this premier league table, because their players are very ready to apply strategies that will make them to achieve victory in their remaining matches. I don't think, Arsenal will continue with that first position in the premier league table after the break, because Manchester city will definitely collect that position after the FIFA world cup competition.

This season Liverpool have been trying to be consistent in the English premier league. It is under probability to see Liverpool betting after the world cup. Liverpool is unpredictable this season I'm not too sure if performing can still maintain their performance after world cup.

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It will be a really challenging time period for Newcastle when it comes to keeping their presence in top 4. Maybe some big teams have had bad days so far but the second half of the season might not be the same. Liverpool, Manchester United and Chelsea all have a chance to fight more seriously for top 4 in the rest of the season. We aren't even in the middle of the season technically.

This is why Newcastle might need some new signings to keep the team strong. They need to keep their mental condition as good as possible just as they have done so far. Even if they finish the season right below top 4 this would still be a good success for them with this squad of course.

Yeah everyone would have the same thought about how newcastle should made a signing , a saga one. To land top class player in order to compete much more seriously as they capable to do it with the oil money inside them , but once again we never knew what's they are planning in premier league.

Could be just an ordinary investment in newcastle to keep the club in mediocre area with less money spent.

I hope that it won't be that kind of an investment. Because they already have a 1 billion euro transfer budget in their hands as far as I know. I can't even imagine that much money together in my mind. Grin

With a budget like this they should be definitely targeting to make huge signings especially next summer.

But to do this easier they need to have a successful season. Especially if they manage to qualify for the Champions League it would be very beneficial for them to convince top players to sign for them.

I absolutely agree, playing the champions league will attract more players because not all the players looking just for money but for competition and improvement, that's why qualifying to the champions league will surely make their Mercato more successful in my opinion

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Quote from: EdenHazard on December 05, 2022, 05:37:49 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 05, 2022, 03:11:19 PM

It will be a really challenging time period for Newcastle when it comes to keeping their presence in top 4. Maybe some big teams have had bad days so far but the second half of the season might not be the same. Liverpool, Manchester United and Chelsea all have a chance to fight more seriously for top 4 in the rest of the season. We aren't even in the middle of the season technically.

This is why Newcastle might need some new signings to keep the team strong. They need to keep their mental condition as good as possible just as they have done so far. Even if they finish the season right below top 4 this would still be a good success for them with this squad of course.

Yeah everyone would have the same thought about how newcastle should made a signing , a saga one. To land top class player in order to compete much more seriously as they capable to do it with the oil money inside them , but once again we never knew what's they are planning in premier league.

Could be just an ordinary investment in newcastle to keep the club in mediocre area with less money spent.

I hope that it won't be that kind of an investment. Because they already have a 1 billion euro transfer budget in their hands as far as I know. I can't even imagine that much money together in my mind. Grin

With a budget like this they should be definitely targeting to make huge signings especially next summer.

But to do this easier they need to have a successful season. Especially if they manage to qualify for the Champions League it would be very beneficial for them to convince top players to sign for them.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 05, 2022, 03:11:19 PM

It will be a really challenging time period for Newcastle when it comes to keeping their presence in top 4. Maybe some big teams have had bad days so far but the second half of the season might not be the same. Liverpool, Manchester United and Chelsea all have a chance to fight more seriously for top 4 in the rest of the season. We aren't even in the middle of the season technically.

This is why Newcastle might need some new signings to keep the team strong. They need to keep their mental condition as good as possible just as they have done so far. Even if they finish the season right below top 4 this would still be a good success for them with this squad of course.

Yeah everyone would have the same thought about how newcastle should made a signing , a saga one. To land top class player in order to compete much more seriously as they capable to do it with the oil money inside them , but once again we never knew what's they are planning in premier league.

Could be just an ordinary investment in newcastle to keep the club in mediocre area with less money spent.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on December 05, 2022, 04:53:20 PM

Manchester city are indeed a team to emulate in the EPL, since the take over by Seikh Mansour a lot has changed in terms of financial capabilities of the club, they are able to sign preferred players of their choice which has brought about a positive change and impact to the squad. This Manchester City is far much better than it was before Seikh Mansour takeover.

Arsenal is trying to emulate Manchester City and it is working for them, they are getting good results. If arsenal tries to win the Premier league this season it can be the end for Manchester cityto be winning the championship often. Manchester City is a good team to emulate but not all Club can pay the price.

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Quote from: DanWalker on December 05, 2022, 02:23:31 PM

Liverpool are currently 6th in the table with 22 points compared to Arsenal who are on top with 37 points. I have to say that the point margin is quite large, but they still do have a chance to decrease the gap and move on top. I think it is going to be really challenging for them to win the league but they can surely make the top 4 because Manchester United has to be one of the most inconsistent teams in the EPL and their coach has to find the best combination of teams to compete in this competitive league.

They are inconsistent, but so far they are doing better than Liverpool in my opinion and would likely do more. Eric Ten has been more under pressure from Ronaldo and others, but now that they have both cut ties, he can use his boys however he sees fit, and no one will question his judgment. The likelihood of Liverpool switching them from that position would be tough and hard work because I don't think their squad is complete to finish the task and Manchester United will also push further to overcome others that preceded them.

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Moreover, they just released Ronaldo from the squad and now they are lacking a lethal striker. Although Liverpool now have 24 matches to go, they really need to play consistent football in order to finish the league in the top four and I don't think they will be able to win the league this time.

They have always lacked good stickers and even with Ronaldo's absence, the structure remains the same but I look forward to the January transfer window to see their new deal, Manchester United is cooking some new players and from what I learnt, they are young and energetic for the team.

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Oh, yes, I understand even if Newcastle would be called a strong average team, but it's impossible to call them a small team after the middle of last season. And their weight will only increase and probably they can be called a big team already at the end of this season with a good combination of circumstances, because Newcastle is already a big club in terms of money, but not always big money gives a big result. After all, the English Premier League is the richest European championship in Europe in finance, so you can't automatically pull off the same scenario as happened in France with Paris Saint Germain, whose budget is an order of magnitude higher than all its domestic competitors.

Maybe in this case Manchester City can be a good example for the EPL or indeed PSG in Ligue 1.
For now it may still not be possible but in a few years I think if the owner doesn't change and if the reforms in a better direction continue to be made with the money they currently have it's not impossible they will be able to break the dominance of the current big team.
We know the cruelty of the EPL in terms of competition, but we also know the real example of Manchester City before being bought by Seikh Mansour and after being bought by Seikh Mansour. did not rule out this will also happen to Newcastle.

Manchester city are indeed a team to emulate in the EPL, since the take over by Seikh Mansour a lot has changed in terms of financial capabilities of the club, they are able to sign preferred players of their choice which has brought about a positive change and impact to the squad. This Manchester City is far much better than it was before Seikh Mansour takeover.

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Quote from: tygeade on December 05, 2022, 10:55:32 AM

It is not easy to suddenly become good just because you bought some players. I am not saying that West Ham is a bad team, obviously as we can see they are a good team but it doesn't mean that they are going to be that much better suddenly, they are good but that's about it and we should move on with it.

I feel like the fact that they spent money means nothing, if that was the only thing that give you results, Chelsea would have been leading the whole league, but they are not, barely in top 4 right now, and not doing awesome, even though they are the ones that spent the most money. This is why it's clear to me that West Ham needs more seasons like this to get good.

of course a team will go through a long process to become stronger than what happened to them before. but additional players are the first option to improve the quality of the current team even we saw newcastle united also made a big improvement in the last summer window and it seems they are doing a better job now. West Ham will most likely be able to make improvements in the winter window because for now we see them to be in 16th place in the standings with a collection of points that are quite close to teams who are in the relegation zone.

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It will be a really challenging time period for Newcastle when it comes to keeping their presence in top 4. Maybe some big teams have had bad days so far but the second half of the season might not be the same. Liverpool, Manchester United and Chelsea all have a chance to fight more seriously for top 4 in the rest of the season. We aren't even in the middle of the season technically.

This is why Newcastle might need some new signings to keep the team strong. They need to keep their mental condition as good as possible just as they have done so far. Even if they finish the season right below top 4 this would still be a good success for them with this squad of course.

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