Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 5064.

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 21, 2022, 02:28:05 PM

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Chelsea sack their managers all the time, they have one of the biggest turnovers of managers in the league. Sacking Tuchel was a joke tbh, after winning the CL he should have been given more time. I notice many of their fans on social media being disappointed about how he was treated.

They want the team to win and Tuchel isnt winning with the team so yeah decision was taken. Considering that it was only 5 games at the start of the season, it was actually a bold decision that the board made. Probably something to do with some other outfield issue otherwise I dont really see why they would just sacked him though

If the owner of club didn't feel satisfied with the performance from the club and yeah the owner wil be blaming the manager for that. In my opinion if this is happening with so many clubs other than chelsea. I can't deny the fact that if this time chelsea in a horrible peformance. In my opinion if graham can't make chelsea to get the best performance and he will become the next manager that will be sacked again very soon. im feeling doubt if graham can bring chelsea to the its best performance again. In my opinion if tuchel knows everything more than graham

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 21, 2022, 02:28:05 PM

They want the team to win and Tuchel isnt winning with the team so yeah decision was taken. Considering that it was only 5 games at the start of the season, it was actually a bold decision that the board made. Probably something to do with some other outfield issue otherwise I dont really see why they would just sacked him though

Sacking Thomas Tuchel was not just about Chelsea's inability to win matches. I think they were other issues that resulted in the sack. According to Todd Boehly, the German tactician was unwilling to key into the vision the new owners have for the club. Thomas Tuchel failed to integrate the main team with the academy. Unlike Frank Lampard, Tuchel failed to discover or create a platform for young players from the academy to join the main team which I think is one of the goals of the new owners. These new owners are businessmen that want to make a profit.

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Manchester City there is still one game against Tottenham which is still pending and it could be decisive he will get a win or lose against Tottenham will decrease his points and one of them will be shifted to 3rd place, Manchester City must start seriously because the opponent they are facing is a big club that has many skilled players who have the potential to make Manchester City lose.

That match is really unpredictable because the two teams are the best so far this season. But in their last five matches, Tottenham has been more outstanding winning four and drawing one, while Manchester City won three and drew two. The last time they met Man City won the game by just one goal scored in the 82nd minute by Laporte. But with the rearrangement and the rejuvenation of the Tottenham team by coach Antonio Conte this match would surely be a match to watch.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on September 21, 2022, 03:33:53 PM

Manchester City are in a good position to win the league, they are sitting 2nd with just a point difference but we shouldn't give them the trophy just yet, Tottenham are also sitting third with few points different so its still an open competition at this stage and you can say any team will finish top because it is unsure at this point which team will keep up and stay consistent till the end so let's not be in a rush to declare one side as the favorites to win the league.

Manchester City still have a huge dominance in the league even though Arsenal and Tottenham have also been doing wonderful. It is hard to believe that at least one of Arsenal - Tottenham duo will be very consistent until the end of the season. Because we haven't seen an example in the recent years. But for Manchester City, it is easy to talk about this. Even if they lose points in some unexpected games as well they can still win the title by playing extra. The squad quality is much higher than their closest opponents.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on September 21, 2022, 03:33:53 PM

Manchester City are in a good position to win the league, they are sitting 2nd with just a point difference but we shouldn't give them the trophy just yet, Tottenham are also sitting third with few points different so its still an open competition at this stage and you can say any team will finish top because it is unsure at this point which team will keep up and stay consistent till the end so let's not be in a rush to declare one side as the favorites to win the league.

Manchester City there is still one game against Tottenham which is still pending and it could be decisive he will get a win or lose against Tottenham will decrease his points and one of them will be shifted to 3rd place, Manchester City must start seriously because the opponent they are facing is a big club that has many skilled players who have the potential to make Manchester City lose.

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The premier league will be on break this weekend because of the international friendly games and after the break we are going to witness some really tough games between rivals I can't wait to see, Arsenal are taking on Tottenham and Manchester United going against Manchester City. So much tensity already even before the game because this will be a test of consistency in both games to see how well all four teams have improved and are ready to take on the rest of the season.

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Manchester City are in a good position to win the league, they are sitting 2nd with just a point difference but we shouldn't give them the trophy just yet, Tottenham are also sitting third with few points different so its still an open competition at this stage and you can say any team will finish top because it is unsure at this point which team will keep up and stay consistent till the end so let's not be in a rush to declare one side as the favorites to win the league.

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 21, 2022, 02:28:05 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 21, 2022, 11:14:05 AM

Chelsea sack their managers all the time, they have one of the biggest turnovers of managers in the league. Sacking Tuchel was a joke tbh, after winning the CL he should have been given more time. I notice many of their fans on social media being disappointed about how he was treated.

They want the team to win and Tuchel isnt winning with the team so yeah decision was taken. Considering that it was only 5 games at the start of the season, it was actually a bold decision that the board made. Probably something to do with some other outfield issue otherwise I dont really see why they would just sacked him though

One time said he wants to build a squad no one can play against, I'm not boggled in any way about the sack of Thomas Tuchel, but it came at a time I never did. Did they sack the last manager that won them the champions league ? Yes! So it's has been done before.
Although the new owner said they both had no same ideas for the future so they had to part ways with him real quick.

Looking at Chelsea also, they're currently lacking and slacking in midfield, the player's they brought in this season aren't world class players but average player's. They also need to do away with some players in the club like Jorginho, is currently not at his best.

I seriously think they wouldn't be amongst the top four clubs who qualifies for the Champions League football next season.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 21, 2022, 11:14:05 AM

Chelsea sack their managers all the time, they have one of the biggest turnovers of managers in the league. Sacking Tuchel was a joke tbh, after winning the CL he should have been given more time. I notice many of their fans on social media being disappointed about how he was treated.

Thomas Tuchel has done a fantastic job for the team and won the Champions League, but I never supported the decision to fire him but the sack was beyond all that. According to rumors, the new owner of Chelsea wanted some new players in the team, but Tuchel's choice was different. This led to an internal conflict between them. He received the player he need, but despite this, the team still wasn't able to win many games as expected, which resulted in his dismissal.

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 21, 2022, 02:28:05 PM

They want the team to win and Tuchel isnt winning with the team so yeah decision was taken. Considering that it was only 5 games at the start of the season, it was actually a bold decision that the board made. Probably something to do with some other outfield issue otherwise I dont really see why they would just sacked him though

Sometimes it's something else or fate. Germany is looking for good coaches and he has shown that he can do it very well at Mainz and Dortmund. He was also successful in France with Paris. So Tuchel maybe have an offer and that should be good. FC Bayern is also discussing of his coach Nagelsmann.

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 21, 2022, 02:28:05 PM

They want the team to win and Tuchel isnt winning with the team so yeah decision was taken. Considering that it was only 5 games at the start of the season, it was actually a bold decision that the board made. Probably something to do with some other outfield issue otherwise I dont really see why they would just sacked him though

because Tuchel and Boehly relationship was fractured so it was only natural that the owner fired him. I think a big polemic occurred during the transfer window, maybe there was a discrepancy between the decisions of the coach and club owners in signing players so that when Tuchel received two defeats at the start of this season, Boehly immediately issued a letter of dismissal. Everything has a hidden basis in Tuchel's dismissal. we will see how Graham potter with chelsea this season if he can meet the demands of Boehly in this season or he will experience the same thing.

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Quote from: blackbold on September 21, 2022, 11:06:56 AM

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Yes, it's too soon to draw conclusions because the Graham Potter era has just begun. He did fail to make a big debut, which Chelsea could only draw against Red Bull Salzburg but that doesn't mean Chelsea will continue to sink. As a new coach, it's obvious that he needs time to adapt so he can explore the potential that Chelsea has and the possibility to find the best composition of the squad. I think Graham Potter definitely has his own shopping list and if he is given full support in the upcoming transfer window, it was certain that he would make the best of the opportunity.

It could be that his debut with Chelsea provided an opportunity because the differences between the management of Chelsea and Brighton were very different. especially in its players which Chelsea may have a distinct advantage if managed properly. In addition, the Chelsea manager should not be in a hurry to take the decision to sack him as he did with Tuchel. so giving Graham Potter more chances will prove he can save Chelsea. Many of the clubs Chelsea is currently facing have grown stronger, in both the Premier League and Champions League so Graham Potter must make the most of this

Potter has indeed succeeded in bringing Brighton to a different level. But he had never coached a big team before. Therefore, not a few doubt its capacity. The appointment of Potter was a gamble, but Chelsea management believed and kept giving him time. But in my opinion, Chelsea will suffer from setbacks for a long time and they will also feel the lack of titles for many seasons.

Don't underestimate Potter's quality, but it seems that the club management is in too much of a hurry to replace the coach with Graham Potter, who usually handles a mid-table club who is free to determine any tactics as long as the club can survive in the EPL, it's grateful, let alone qualifying for the European zone. At Chelsea it looks like it will not be like Brighton at Chelsea the pressure from the fans is very high and the owner is not developing and must be prepared to be made a scapegoat if Chelsea's performance is below the top 4 of the English league.
So I think Graham Potter's problem is only with Chelsea fans and club management. because we realize how difficult it is to handle the Club when the season is running.

I do not underestimate Potter's abilities, he has already proven he is a good coach and has shown possibilities of been able to transform the team to play better as he did in his time at Brighton I only have little doubt because he hasn't coached such a big team in his career and it is difficult to tell if he will succeed at Chelsea or not at this time.

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I also don't know yet how to estimate cuffs United. Lost the first 2 games, then won everything so you would say they have things in order then. Then came the home loss to Real Sociedad in the Europa league. Manchester City and Arsenal are the best impression so far, but I suspect we will see another big setback from Arsenal this season. Can United rise above themselves and compete for 2nd place in the league? Liverpool are well behind Manchester City. They can forget about the championship. Maybe we shouldn't completely flatten the Spurs for the top 3.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 21, 2022, 11:14:05 AM

Chelsea sack their managers all the time, they have one of the biggest turnovers of managers in the league. Sacking Tuchel was a joke tbh, after winning the CL he should have been given more time. I notice many of their fans on social media being disappointed about how he was treated.

They want the team to win and Tuchel isnt winning with the team so yeah decision was taken. Considering that it was only 5 games at the start of the season, it was actually a bold decision that the board made. Probably something to do with some other outfield issue otherwise I dont really see why they would just sacked him though

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Quote from: G_Besar on September 21, 2022, 09:19:53 AM

Potter has indeed succeeded in bringing Brighton to a different level. But he had never coached a big team before. Therefore, not a few doubt its capacity. The appointment of Potter was a gamble, but Chelsea management believed and kept giving him time. But in my opinion, Chelsea will suffer from setbacks for a long time and they will also feel the lack of titles for many seasons.

Potter needs a lot of time to make Chelsea's form improve, I think he can do that as long as the players are able to adapt enough to his strategy. I believe Potter has the capacity, but it's no better than Tuchel who was previously sacked by Chelsea.

So far Potter has only taken charge of a few Chelsea match, so even though the results are still not satisfactory then I still think it is the start for Potter's career at Chelsea. He needs support instead of doubts, but everyone has every right to doubt him as the best coach for Chelsea at the moment.

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Firstly Arsenal will have the advantage because they’ll be playing at the Emirates in front of their home fans. If you watch the Manchester United vs Arsenal game, you could notice how dominating Arsenal we’re all through the game. They weren’t just clinical defensively, keeping an unnecessary high-line and that was what spoiled their game plan. I believe Arteta has learnt and he’ll now go against them in a very coordinated way this time around. I don’t expect Arsenal to lose against any of them.

Spurs are counter attacking team and in game against United, Arsenal were caught mostly in counters only. It's a tough job for Arsenal but I think its a test again for them and they have to avoid mistakes they made in United game again. Spurs are not doing great defensively either so we have good chance of winning against them but as long as there is Kane and Son out there its a tough one if you ask me.

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It could be that his debut with Chelsea provided an opportunity because the differences between the management of Chelsea and Brighton were very different. especially in its players which Chelsea may have a distinct advantage if managed properly. In addition, the Chelsea manager should not be in a hurry to take the decision to sack him as he did with Tuchel. so giving Graham Potter more chances will prove he can save Chelsea. Many of the clubs Chelsea is currently facing have grown stronger, in both the Premier League and Champions League so Graham Potter must make the most of this

Potter has indeed succeeded in bringing Brighton to a different level. But he had never coached a big team before. Therefore, not a few doubt its capacity. The appointment of Potter was a gamble, but Chelsea management believed and kept giving him time. But in my opinion, Chelsea will suffer from setbacks for a long time and they will also feel the lack of titles for many seasons.

Not sure, as we haven't fully seen Potter's first contribution to Chelsea. The problem of setbacks once again depends on how cohesive the team is to get out of the shackled pressure. I think there's a little bit of doubt about Potter because so far Chelsea hasn't had any problems on the coaching side, they've also had players distrust each other and that needs a leader who can regroup the motivation of the players. There is still a long way to go and Chelsea are tested like Man United some time ago.

It's really going to be a tough job for him, he took over from a manager that won UCL and still got sacked, which is beyond bonkers because if a manager gives you UCL which is the biggest title in the world honestly, you wait a bit longer but owner change could lead to mismanagement like this.

This means he needs to be so good that he needs to do better than a guy who won UCL, that means he needs to be at least going into UCL again next year (top 4 in epl) AND he needs to go out of the groups at the same time, possibly be in semi-finals if possible, but quarter finals is not over for him. So all in all, that much high expectation would be very tough for anyone.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 21, 2022, 01:00:15 PM

The case of Potter is something am sure that he won't stay in the club till next season because if Tuchel couldn't manage the players right now to get good results as a more experienced coach then I doubt if Potter can make out something with the current squad.

This can actually be said to be a gamble too for Todd in sacking Tuchel and replacing him with Potter because indeed this will be like when Potter failed then indeed he will definitely be labeled as a coach who cannot lift a big team but if he succeeds this will be a turning point for Potter because he will surely be hailed just like Xavi is now in Barcelona.
Apart from that now maybe we just need to see at least until the middle of the season whether Chelsea's performance will be better or will it be the same as the MU coached by Rangnick last season.

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Quote from: Raflesia on September 21, 2022, 01:01:22 PM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on September 21, 2022, 04:46:11 AM

I understand why you are so sure Arsenal can win against Tottenham and Liverpool it's because Arsenal performance is better than these two teams
But don't forget there is a different tension when 2 big teams fight each other , one example when Manchester United beat Arsenal when almost everyone predicted Arsenal will win the fact that Arsenal has defeated.

Agree with what you said, actually when two teams that can be said to be equal both in terms of player quality and performance, it is quite difficult to choose the one who wins because sometimes in this case the strategy on the field is also very important.
I followed the example you said when Arsenal and Manchester United competed, Arsenal was actually very dominant in playing the ball but MU's strategy of always going all out when the counter attack proved successful even with a striking score.

Firstly Arsenal will have the advantage because they’ll be playing at the Emirates in front of their home fans. If you watch the Manchester United vs Arsenal game, you could notice how dominating Arsenal we’re all through the game. They weren’t just clinical defensively, keeping an unnecessary high-line and that was what spoiled their game plan. I believe Arteta has learnt and he’ll now go against them in a very coordinated way this time around. I don’t expect Arsenal to lose against any of them.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 21, 2022, 12:47:12 PM

I'm also not sure about whether the real problem was Tuchel at Chelsea. Because the same team became even the champions in the Champions League with Tuchel. I've heard some other things which could be the real reason behind this action but anyway. Graham Potter will surely be under pressure in the rest of the season. He won't be expected to win the league of course but they will expect to see a big improvement in the performance and results at the same time. The Salzburg game didn't end well but the performance was promising. They have a nice amount of time to get more prepared for their next game.

This is something that is certain, because regardless of what actually Potter is currently Chelsea's hope and of course when he sacked Tuchel Potter should have realized that his achievements at Chelsea were quite difficult because they had to be able to match the previous achievements of Tuchel even if he could have more so that not considered a failure as Chelsea coach.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 21, 2022, 11:14:05 AM

Chelsea sack their managers all the time, they have one of the biggest turnovers of managers in the league. Sacking Tuchel was a joke tbh, after winning the CL he should have been given more time. I notice many of their fans on social media being disappointed about how he was treated.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Potter was sacked before the end of the season, especially if he doesn’t get top 4.

I agreed about this all with change of management now things are surely not easy and most chances Potter is also going to lose his job before end of this season because currently we have nothing positive in this Chelsea team and new owners need some time to understand things which help them for having better performance Tuchel deserve some more time because he can bring changes which help them for increasing performance and this was surely going to happen in coming weeks.

But with current condition, I am also upset and feeling they are not having any serious chance for staying into top four with Arsenal and Manchester United are also now improving quality and performance which is surely good for Premier League and this season with Manchester City and Liverpool are already on pole for me even Liverpool is also having issues, but they can manage quickly and could be the most lethal team in coming weeks.

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