Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 - page 5065.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on September 21, 2022, 04:46:11 AM

I understand why you are so sure Arsenal can win against Tottenham and Liverpool it's because Arsenal performance is better than these two teams
But don't forget there is a different tension when 2 big teams fight each other , one example when Manchester United beat Arsenal when almost everyone predicted Arsenal will win the fact that Arsenal has defeated.

Agree with what you said, actually when two teams that can be said to be equal both in terms of player quality and performance, it is quite difficult to choose the one who wins because sometimes in this case the strategy on the field is also very important.
I followed the example you said when Arsenal and Manchester United competed, Arsenal was actually very dominant in playing the ball but MU's strategy of always going all out when the counter attack proved successful even with a striking score.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 21, 2022, 11:14:05 AM

Chelsea sack their managers all the time, they have one of the biggest turnovers of managers in the league. Sacking Tuchel was a joke tbh, after winning the CL he should have been given more time. I notice many of their fans on social media being disappointed about how he was treated.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Potter was sacked before the end of the season, especially if he doesn’t get top 4.

Chelsea football club have been sacking managers under their former boss Roman Abramovich and this pattern have brought the team so much success in terms of trophies, don't forget that Thomas Tuchel was also brought to the team after the then coach was sacked and he won the champions league in his first season. I believe the current Chelsea owner felt that he could also utilize that pattern to win trophies, especially in this first season of his ownership of the club.

The case of Potter is something am sure that he won't stay in the club till next season because if Tuchel couldn't manage the players right now to get good results as a more experienced coach then I doubt if Potter can make out something with the current squad.

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I'm also not sure about whether the real problem was Tuchel at Chelsea. Because the same team became even the champions in the Champions League with Tuchel. I've heard some other things which could be the real reason behind this action but anyway. Graham Potter will surely be under pressure in the rest of the season. He won't be expected to win the league of course but they will expect to see a big improvement in the performance and results at the same time. The Salzburg game didn't end well but the performance was promising. They have a nice amount of time to get more prepared for their next game.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 21, 2022, 11:14:05 AM

Chelsea sack their managers all the time, they have one of the biggest turnovers of managers in the league. Sacking Tuchel was a joke tbh, after winning the CL he should have been given more time. I notice many of their fans on social media being disappointed about how he was treated.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Potter was sacked before the end of the season, especially if he doesn’t get top 4.

Yes I hope so too, I think the decision was taken too soon for a coach like Tuchel who brought success some time ago. Of course, I know it's a coach's risk if he doesn't put in an excellent performance, and that's what Tuchel felt after not giving him something he wanted at the start of the season. It was hard to say he failed at this, because the opportunities he received were very short.

Quote from: herurist on September 21, 2022, 11:37:19 AM

His era is different now because maybe when the Abramovich Era such an opportunity was clearly very big but for now when Todd is in power he does have a very impatient nature and Tuchel inevitably has to say goodbye to Chelsea.
Right now, regardless of whether it's a joke or not, we have to look at Potter's performance first because this is one of the references for whether Tuchel's dismissal is true or not.

It is true, the change of leadership in Chelsea's management body was one of the causes of the rapid termination of cooperation between Chelsea and Tuchel.
Tuchel was sacked just after Chelsea's third Premier League defeat (2 times) and in their inaugural Champions League game against Dinamo Zagreb. I said Tuchel still deserves a chance.
But everything has happened, I also definitely want to see if this is the right decision or to make the situation worse.

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Quote from: rozak on September 21, 2022, 08:09:32 AM

I'm sure Arsenal in the Europa League will handle their opponents well. but for the next 2 games in the Premier League, it's quite difficult for Arsenal. Tottenham and Liverpool are not easy opponents for Arsenal. although Liverpool is not in good form. but at any time I think Liverpool can solve their problems.
Tottenham may give Arsenal a test. the difference in points is only 1, even Tottenham is also unbeaten in 7 matches. it will be quite tough for Arsenal.

Two dificult Match for Arsenal. Tottenham won 6-2 against Liecester. Soon became a star for making three goals. Against Liverpool it looks like it will be more difficult. Although they are unstable, underestimating them is a mistake. But if you look at Arsenal they have the spirit to stay at the top of the EPL. It can make Arsenal more excited. I think it's quite interesting looking forward to this match. Since there is a FIFA match break, I think the break break will make the match even better because the player will certainly be in shape. Although I believe there are some players who play for the country.

Two tough matches after this international break mean real test for Arsenal going to start in Premier League with these matches we can check how season going to be for them because in first test against Manchester United they play well but lost but now it needs to be on target if they want to stay at top with Manchester City is also in amazing run, and they are not allowing any team to stay at their front so here surely Tottenham and Liverpool are real test case and if they are able to steal points then surely we can consider them as real title contender beside Manchester City.

With current form and situation look like we have only few teams which are going to try to stay at top because few teams are already badly down and out of race with their performance specially Chelsea is in difficult time, and it's not easy for them to compete with top rank teams with current form.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 21, 2022, 11:14:05 AM

Chelsea sack their managers all the time, they have one of the biggest turnovers of managers in the league. Sacking Tuchel was a joke tbh, after winning the CL he should have been given more time. I notice many of their fans on social media being disappointed about how he was treated.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Potter was sacked before the end of the season, especially if he doesn’t get top 4.

His era is different now because maybe when the Abramovich Era such an opportunity was clearly very big but for now when Todd is in power he does have a very impatient nature and Tuchel inevitably has to say goodbye to Chelsea.
Right now, regardless of whether it's a joke or not, we have to look at Potter's performance first because this is one of the references for whether Tuchel's dismissal is true or not.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 21, 2022, 11:14:05 AM

Chelsea sack their managers all the time, they have one of the biggest turnovers of managers in the league. Sacking Tuchel was a joke tbh, after winning the CL he should have been given more time. I notice many of their fans on social media being disappointed about how he was treated.

Yes, many Chelsea supporters feel disappointed over Tuchel's dismissal which was judged to have been carried out in a hurry. Even if I'm not a fan of them, I think Tuchel deserves more time at Chelsea. But I don't know what Chelsea's management thought about Tuchel so they didn't give him time to improve the condition of a team that was down, it was a bit of a surprise.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 21, 2022, 11:14:05 AM

It wouldn’t surprise me if Potter was sacked before the end of the season, especially if he doesn’t get top 4.

That's very possible. Cheesy

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Chelsea sack their managers all the time, they have one of the biggest turnovers of managers in the league. Sacking Tuchel was a joke tbh, after winning the CL he should have been given more time. I notice many of their fans on social media being disappointed about how he was treated.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Potter was sacked before the end of the season, especially if he doesn’t get top 4.

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Yes, it's too soon to draw conclusions because the Graham Potter era has just begun. He did fail to make a big debut, which Chelsea could only draw against Red Bull Salzburg but that doesn't mean Chelsea will continue to sink. As a new coach, it's obvious that he needs time to adapt so he can explore the potential that Chelsea has and the possibility to find the best composition of the squad. I think Graham Potter definitely has his own shopping list and if he is given full support in the upcoming transfer window, it was certain that he would make the best of the opportunity.

It could be that his debut with Chelsea provided an opportunity because the differences between the management of Chelsea and Brighton were very different. especially in its players which Chelsea may have a distinct advantage if managed properly. In addition, the Chelsea manager should not be in a hurry to take the decision to sack him as he did with Tuchel. so giving Graham Potter more chances will prove he can save Chelsea. Many of the clubs Chelsea is currently facing have grown stronger, in both the Premier League and Champions League so Graham Potter must make the most of this

Potter has indeed succeeded in bringing Brighton to a different level. But he had never coached a big team before. Therefore, not a few doubt its capacity. The appointment of Potter was a gamble, but Chelsea management believed and kept giving him time. But in my opinion, Chelsea will suffer from setbacks for a long time and they will also feel the lack of titles for many seasons.

Don't underestimate Potter's quality, but it seems that the club management is in too much of a hurry to replace the coach with Graham Potter, who usually handles a mid-table club who is free to determine any tactics as long as the club can survive in the EPL, it's grateful, let alone qualifying for the European zone. At Chelsea it looks like it will not be like Brighton at Chelsea the pressure from the fans is very high and the owner is not developing and must be prepared to be made a scapegoat if Chelsea's performance is below the top 4 of the English league.
So I think Graham Potter's problem is only with Chelsea fans and club management. because we realize how difficult it is to handle the Club when the season is running.

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Quote from: hyudien on September 21, 2022, 09:45:02 AM

Not sure, as we haven't fully seen Potter's first contribution to Chelsea. The problem of setbacks once again depends on how cohesive the team is to get out of the shackled pressure. I think there's a little bit of doubt about Potter because so far Chelsea hasn't had any problems on the coaching side, they've also had players distrust each other and that needs a leader who can regroup the motivation of the players. There is still a long way to go and Chelsea are tested like Man United some time ago.

Doubts still exist until now, perhaps even quite big because in fact the reason is quite logical considering Chelsea's current condition is in transition and Potter is also not a big coach even though his achievements make Brighton play very well but for a club at Chelsea's level it is still not enough.
But on the other hand this can also be a good change if Chelsea and Potter can get chemistry I think.
Maybe what we have to do is wait to see if in the next few games Potter is capable or not.

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Quote from: G_Besar on September 21, 2022, 09:19:53 AM

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It could be that his debut with Chelsea provided an opportunity because the differences between the management of Chelsea and Brighton were very different. especially in its players which Chelsea may have a distinct advantage if managed properly. In addition, the Chelsea manager should not be in a hurry to take the decision to sack him as he did with Tuchel. so giving Graham Potter more chances will prove he can save Chelsea. Many of the clubs Chelsea is currently facing have grown stronger, in both the Premier League and Champions League so Graham Potter must make the most of this

Potter has indeed succeeded in bringing Brighton to a different level. But he had never coached a big team before. Therefore, not a few doubt its capacity. The appointment of Potter was a gamble, but Chelsea management believed and kept giving him time. But in my opinion, Chelsea will suffer from setbacks for a long time and they will also feel the lack of titles for many seasons.

Not sure, as we haven't fully seen Potter's first contribution to Chelsea. The problem of setbacks once again depends on how cohesive the team is to get out of the shackled pressure. I think there's a little bit of doubt about Potter because so far Chelsea hasn't had any problems on the coaching side, they've also had players distrust each other and that needs a leader who can regroup the motivation of the players. There is still a long way to go and Chelsea are tested like Man United some time ago.

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Quote from: DU18 on September 21, 2022, 09:09:09 AM

Quote from: rozak on September 21, 2022, 08:09:32 AM

I'm sure Arsenal in the Europa League will handle their opponents well. but for the next 2 games in the Premier League, it's quite difficult for Arsenal. Tottenham and Liverpool are not easy opponents for Arsenal. although Liverpool is not in good form. but at any time I think Liverpool can solve their problems.
Tottenham may give Arsenal a test. the difference in points is only 1, even Tottenham is also unbeaten in 7 matches. it will be quite tough for Arsenal.

We have to consider all matches in both the European and English leagues as difficult matches, so that way we will not underestimate anyone in a match, I personally as an arsenal fan want arsenal to stay focused and not underestimate anyone even though on paper we are actually superior, for the premier league match next week will certainly be a test for us to be consistent, the defeat to Manchester United should be a lesson so that players remain highly motivated in facing every bigmatch in the league and European league, after the international break, Arsenal will indeed undergo It was quite a tough match because we will face big teams like Tottenham and Liverpool, these two teams are indeed quite strong but I hope that in the international break there are no injured Arsenal players so that later they will be better prepared for the Derby match And of course I'm sure we can get 3 points

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I hope it goes as predicted @DU18. Winning Tottenham will be a strong prove of long standing dominance and its very clear it won't be an easy one to break. Tottenham remains undefeated in their last 7 matches while Arsenal lost point to united who were struggled to climb the fifth position with no goal difference. For me Liverpool might not be much of a concern because Arsenal can easily break through their slacking defense but Tottenham appears too tough to be underrated

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Quote from: naira on September 21, 2022, 07:43:18 AM

It could be that his debut with Chelsea provided an opportunity because the differences between the management of Chelsea and Brighton were very different. especially in its players which Chelsea may have a distinct advantage if managed properly. In addition, the Chelsea manager should not be in a hurry to take the decision to sack him as he did with Tuchel. so giving Graham Potter more chances will prove he can save Chelsea. Many of the clubs Chelsea is currently facing have grown stronger, in both the Premier League and Champions League so Graham Potter must make the most of this

Potter has indeed succeeded in bringing Brighton to a different level. But he had never coached a big team before. Therefore, not a few doubt its capacity. The appointment of Potter was a gamble, but Chelsea management believed and kept giving him time. But in my opinion, Chelsea will suffer from setbacks for a long time and they will also feel the lack of titles for many seasons.

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Quote from: rozak on September 21, 2022, 08:09:32 AM

I'm sure Arsenal in the Europa League will handle their opponents well. but for the next 2 games in the Premier League, it's quite difficult for Arsenal. Tottenham and Liverpool are not easy opponents for Arsenal. although Liverpool is not in good form. but at any time I think Liverpool can solve their problems.
Tottenham may give Arsenal a test. the difference in points is only 1, even Tottenham is also unbeaten in 7 matches. it will be quite tough for Arsenal.

We have to consider all matches in both the European and English leagues as difficult matches, so that way we will not underestimate anyone in a match, I personally as an arsenal fan want arsenal to stay focused and not underestimate anyone even though on paper we are actually superior, for the premier league match next week will certainly be a test for us to be consistent, the defeat to Manchester United should be a lesson so that players remain highly motivated in facing every bigmatch in the league and European league, after the international break, Arsenal will indeed undergo It was quite a tough match because we will face big teams like Tottenham and Liverpool, these two teams are indeed quite strong but I hope that in the international break there are no injured Arsenal players so that later they will be better prepared for the Derby match And of course I'm sure we can get 3 points

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Quote from: rozak on September 21, 2022, 08:09:32 AM

I'm sure Arsenal in the Europa League will handle their opponents well. but for the next 2 games in the Premier League, it's quite difficult for Arsenal. Tottenham and Liverpool are not easy opponents for Arsenal. although Liverpool is not in good form. but at any time I think Liverpool can solve their problems.
Tottenham may give Arsenal a test. the difference in points is only 1, even Tottenham is also unbeaten in 7 matches. it will be quite tough for Arsenal.

Two dificult Match for Arsenal. Tottenham won 6-2 against Liecester. Soon became a star for making three goals. Against Liverpool it looks like it will be more difficult. Although they are unstable, underestimating them is a mistake. But if you look at Arsenal they have the spirit to stay at the top of the EPL. It can make Arsenal more excited. I think it's quite interesting looking forward to this match. Since there is a FIFA match break, I think the break break will make the match even better because the player will certainly be in shape. Although I believe there are some players who play for the country.

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Quote from: rozak on September 21, 2022, 08:09:32 AM

I'm sure Arsenal in the Europa League will handle their opponents well.

Only if Arsenal won't get distracted by Premier League. I believe they prioritize Premier League more than Europa League. They must fight to get a position high enough (in top 4) to be in Champions League next season. They will prioritize it rather than try to bet all resources to win Europa League. There are two gates to be eligible for Champions League but get it from Premier League is a safer option.

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but for the next 2 games in the Premier League, it's quite difficult for Arsenal. Tottenham and Liverpool are not easy opponents for Arsenal. although Liverpool is not in good form. but at any time I think Liverpool can solve their problems.
Tottenham may give Arsenal a test. the difference in points is only 1, even Tottenham is also unbeaten in 7 matches. it will be quite tough for Arsenal.

Two big matches for Arsenal and these matches will give us a better view on chance of Arsenal to get in top four and further, the Premier League trophy. Liverpool are in a crisis but they are strong in theory and can bring troubles to Arsenal.

Tottenham are not an easy team for Arsenal to beat. They are very dangerous with counter attacking and their players are not only too high but also too fast. I believe Arsenal will lose points in these matches.

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Quote from: Zilon on September 20, 2022, 03:14:54 PM

The difference between the three isn't much anymore and as far as premier league is concern no club is too big to fall. Arsenal might seem strong at the moment but to what extent can they hold to the top position. They haven't meet with City, Tottenham and Chelsea and this three club will surely shift them from the position they are comfortably occupying at the moment.

Tottenham shares the same point with City and currently i see them worthy enough to challenge City and Arsenal for the league title

When 2-3-4 very strong clubs compete, it is very difficult to predict the final result (for example, the favorite will play several draws, and the weaker club will be more successful and eventually be the first). The problem with Arsenal (and all City's other rivals) is that at a distance their chances get smaller the longer the distance - on average City is stronger than each competitor. Maybe the break for the World Cup will give additional randomness to this race - I will hope so.

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Quote from: arimamib on September 21, 2022, 05:49:12 AM

There is always tension in Big Match matches, predictions are very difficult to make because the quality is almost the same. Arsenal defeat to Manchester United illustrates that Arsenal have not been able to be consistent, although many people predict Arsenal will come out victorious, but in fact it is Manchester United who won three points.
Arsenal must get used to maintaining consistent performances when dealing with big teams. The match against Manchester City will be the answer to the question of whether Arsenal can win the Premier League this season or not.

Many predicting about Arsenal is the favorite winner against with Manchester United but the fact United success give first loss for Arsenal after unbeaten throw in last than 5 games. Arsenal mentality still weakness against with big team and I think next match have waiting by Tottenham Hotspur how possible for Arsenal continues with winning again. Have one week break out FIFA matchdays I don't think both team between Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur get full team in this time big match.

Actually I am not really happy with FIFA matchday because many team get disappointed when player returning back with injury and have miss several match later. FIFA could take decision as soon possible with not really important FIFA matchday except qualifying better delist from FIFA matchday schedule. If have player returning back to the team with injury give new problem with team manager because they have find new replacement actually trough window transfer still have long time for opening.

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Youri Tielemans not impressed with Leicester critical results since the start of the season. Whe asked about his mood with his current club. He's happy to get a bit of fresh air with Belgium because it's tough at Leicester right now. The Foxes are bottom of the league table and they might be relegated if they don't get back to their heels. The club performance is going down in every single game they have played and gave only record just one point which happens to be a draw and the rest is losing.

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Anticipating players who are injured because of the tight schedule that must be played by players is the main job of the coach and it is part of the strategy.

Considering that the English Premier League has only arrived on week 7, of course there are many things that must be prepared by Arsenal and other teams that have a schedule to play in the European Champions League and Europa League competitions to maintain the integrity of the team in maintaining the target.

Arsenal have more time to prepare everything before meeting the next match in the Premier League and also in the Europa League. Because there are still ten days from now before playing Tottenham Hotspur at the beginning of next month and Bodoe/Glimt on 7 October. So there is still a lot of time for Arsenal to organize every strategy it needs, because considering that so far Arsenal are still performing very consistently and of course they will always try to be better until the end of this season.

I'm sure Arsenal in the Europa League will handle their opponents well. but for the next 2 games in the Premier League, it's quite difficult for Arsenal. Tottenham and Liverpool are not easy opponents for Arsenal. although Liverpool is not in good form. but at any time I think Liverpool can solve their problems.
Tottenham may give Arsenal a test. the difference in points is only 1, even Tottenham is also unbeaten in 7 matches. it will be quite tough for Arsenal.

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